Re: entry level cryptography books

1999-06-02 Thread Rick Smith

At 06:10 PM 6/1/99 +0100, Markus Kuhn wrote:

>Those who are more comfortable with reading German than Mathematics and
>who are looking for a really entry-level book will enjoy
>
>  Alfred Beutelspacher: Kryptologie.
>  Vieweg, 1996, ISBN 3-528-48990-1, 34.00 DEM, 179 p.

Internet Cryptography has also been translated to German (R. E. Smith,
Internet-Kryptographie, ISBN 3-8273-1344-9). My German isn't good enough to
judge the quality of the translation. If a German speaking person ever
happens to read it I'd love to hear an opinion on how it turned out.

Rick.
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Re: entry level cryptography books

1999-06-02 Thread Carl Ellison

Markus Kuhn wrote:
> 
> "MIKE SHAW" wrote on 1999-06-01 15:43 UTC:
> > Can anyone recommend some entry level cryptography books?
> >  I'm looking for something that will just start to get into the
> > nitty-gritty of the math involved.
> 
> Those who are more comfortable with reading German than Mathematics and
> who are looking for a really entry-level book will enjoy
> 
>   Alfred Beutelspacher: Kryptologie.
>   Vieweg, 1996, ISBN 3-528-48990-1, 34.00 DEM, 179 p.

There's also Klaus Schmeh, "Safer Net", in German for entry level
crypto.

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Re: entry level cryptography books

1999-06-02 Thread RagyR


In a message dated 6/1/99 3:18:53 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:

> >   Alfred Beutelspacher: Kryptologie.
>  >   Vieweg, 1996, ISBN 3-528-48990-1, 34.00 DEM, 179 p.
>  > 
>  > I don't know unfortunately, whether someone has translated it already
>  > into English.
>  
>  I see a 1994 translation, which I presume is of an earlier edition:
>  
>  Cryptology, Paperback, 176 Pages, Mathematical Association of America,
>  February 1994, ISBN: 0883855046,
>  
>  It may be out of print.  None of the on-line stores claimed to have it in 
>  stock, although it's still listed on the MAA's own web site for $35.95.
>  
>  Regards,
>  John Levine, [EMAIL PROTECTED], Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for 
> Dummies",

This book, like most others mentioned in this thread, is available (i.e., in 
stock) at Classical Crypto Books. From the CCB catalog:

Cryptology 
Albrecht Beutelspacher
The first half deals with classical cryptology; the second half, modern. For 
a review, see Cryptologia, Oct95. MAA, xvi + 156 pp
Softbound: $35.95

For more information, please send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Best Wishes
Gary Rasmussen
Classical Crypto Books
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Re: entry level cryptography books

1999-06-01 Thread Yassir Elley

"MIKE SHAW" wrote on 1999-06-01 15:43 UTC:
> Can anyone recommend some entry level cryptography books?
>  I'm looking for something that will just start to get into the
> nitty-gritty of the math involved.

As a first introduction to cryptography and network security,
as well as being technically deep for reference later on, I'd
recommend "Network Security: Private Communication in a Public
World", by Kaufman, Perlman, Speciner. It's very easy to read,
and also witty, and goes deeply into things. For instance, instead
of just describing the math behind RSA, it explains why it works,
intuitively as well as formally, how to implement it efficiently,
the pitfalls you can get into with e=3, etc. It's also particularly
strong in talking about how to use cryptography for building systems,
rather than just the cryptography itself.

-Yassir.




Re: entry level cryptography books

1999-06-01 Thread John R Levine

>   Alfred Beutelspacher: Kryptologie.
>   Vieweg, 1996, ISBN 3-528-48990-1, 34.00 DEM, 179 p.
> 
> I don't know unfortunately, whether someone has translated it already
> into English.

I see a 1994 translation, which I presume is of an earlier edition:

Cryptology, Paperback, 176 Pages, Mathematical Association of America,
February 1994, ISBN: 0883855046,

It may be out of print.  None of the on-line stores claimed to have it in 
stock, although it's still listed on the MAA's own web site for $35.95.

Regards,
John Levine, [EMAIL PROTECTED], Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies",
Information Superhighwayman wanna-be, http://iecc.com/johnl, Sewer Commissioner
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Re: entry level cryptography books

1999-06-01 Thread M Taylor

At 10:43 AM 01/06/1999 -0500, MIKE SHAW wrote:
>
>Can anyone recommend some entry level cryptography books?  I'm looking for
something that will just start to get into the nitty-gritty of the math
involved.
>
> Schneier, "Applied Cryptography"
> Menezes & Oorschot, "Handbook of Applied Cryptography".
>   --Perry]

I'd like to disagree with Perry about entry-level books. I don't see the
Handbook of Applied Cryptography (HAC) as a great introductory text, but as
a very useful reference. HAC would work well for a graduate level course,
but I wouldn't recommend it to anyone who hasn't been doing modern algebra,
number theory and statistics for the last couple of years. While Applied
Cryptography (AC) covers lots of encryption algorithms and includes
protocols, sometime often ignored in most textbooks, AC has one area that
it isn't great in (IMHO) and I hope to see corrected in its next version. I
think for the material covered, there is a lack of cryptanalysis to
"balance" things out. This lack of cryptanalysis reduces the amount of math
knowledge to read the book, but it also limits the AC's use as a
nitty-gritty book about details.

For more of an under grad textbook level with mathematics I'd recommend D.
Denning's _Cryptography and Data Security_, although it is hard to find
now. D. Stinson's _Cryptography: Theory and Practice_ is perhaps the most
used textbook currently. I wish I had it or Denning's book when I took a
course on cryptography. _A Course in Number Theory and Cryptography_ by N.
Koblitz isn't for the math leery, but it is a good mathematically rich
intro to cryptography.

_Cryptography and Data Security_ and HAC have math refresher which will
help if you need a reminder for various areas of mathematics (complexity,
number theory, information theory),  but these are not complete
self-contained courses, they are only refreshers.

I'd recommend buying Stinson's or Koblitz's textbooks for a good
mathematical introduction and considering buying one of HAC or Applied
Cryptography as a reference.




Re: entry level cryptography books

1999-06-01 Thread Suchitra Raman


I can recommend the following book: 
"Network Security: Private Communication in a Public World," 
by Kaufman, Perlman, and Speciner, especially as an introductory  
book, even though it's technically deep as well.   
 
Suchi 
 



Re: entry level cryptography books

1999-06-01 Thread Markus Kuhn

"MIKE SHAW" wrote on 1999-06-01 15:43 UTC:
> Can anyone recommend some entry level cryptography books?
>  I'm looking for something that will just start to get into the
> nitty-gritty of the math involved.

Those who are more comfortable with reading German than Mathematics and
who are looking for a really entry-level book will enjoy

  Alfred Beutelspacher: Kryptologie.
  Vieweg, 1996, ISBN 3-528-48990-1, 34.00 DEM, 179 p.

  "Eine Einfuehrung in die Wissenschaft vom Verschlüsseln, Verbergen
  und Verheimlichen; ohne alle Geheimniskrämerei, aber nicht ohne
  hinterlistigen Schalk, dargestellt zum Nutzen und Ergötzen des
  allgemeinen Publikums."

This is a very well-written book by a German professor of mathematics
that specifically addresses the non-specialist reader that is scared by
mathematics but has a desire to learn about cryptography and its
applications. Lots of nice bed-time reading stories about Alice, Bob,
and friends, covering a surprising range or cryptographic protocols with
extremely little formal ballast in a rather entertaining way.

I don't know unfortunately, whether someone has translated it already
into English.

[Canonical answers:
 Schneier, "Applied Cryptography"
 Menezes & Oorschot, "Handbook of Applied Cryptography".]

Scheier is a book for the applied mind (programmer and application
designer) without much interest in theoretical foundations, Menezes &
Oorschot is for someone looking for a comprehensive treatment of the
field. "Stinson: Cryptography - Theory and Practice, CRC Press" is also
a good addition to that list, especially if it is for a university
course, since it does provide a better fundamental treatment than
especially Schneier without trying to be as comprehensive as Menezes &
Oorschot.

Markus

-- 
Markus G. Kuhn, Computer Laboratory, University of Cambridge, UK
Email: mkuhn at acm.org,  WWW: <http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/>




entry level cryptography books

1999-06-01 Thread MIKE SHAW


Can anyone recommend some entry level cryptography books?  I'm looking for something 
that will just start to get into the nitty-gritty of the math involved.

Thanks
-Mike

[Canonical answers:
 Schneier, "Applied Cryptography"
 Menezes & Oorschot, "Handbook of Applied Cryptography".
 If anyone can say anything *new* on the subject, I'll let the message
 through.
--Perry]