Re: 2008: The year of hack the vote?

2007-12-28 Thread Adam Shostack
On Wed, Dec 26, 2007 at 04:34:55PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| Quoting my friend Marcus Ranum, the Internet
| will remain as insecure as it can and still
| apparently function.  Why should voting be
| different?

Voting is different (by which I mean worse) because the requirements
are hard.

Should voters and ballots be identified? Should you be required to
show up in person? What about confirmability? How important is that
versus usability?

Electronic commerce, by comparison, is a walk in the park.

Adam

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Re: 2008: The year of hack the vote?

2007-12-28 Thread Jack Lloyd
On Wed, Dec 26, 2007 at 09:57:52AM -0800, Ed Gerck wrote:

> In e-commerce there must be no privacy, the merchant must know who I am, my 
> credit card must be valid.

The only reason this 'must' be true is because an anonymous and secure
payment system is a terror which thankfully our federal governments
and central banks protect us from. While Amazon and others obviously
like being able to build customer profiles of everyone, I don't doubt
that they would be perfectly willing to accept an anonymous payment as
long as the money is good (and, of course, that the transaction costs
are no more than a credit card and/or the order flow is sufficient
that it is worth building support for it).

Jack

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