Re: Strength in Complexity?

2008-07-06 Thread Florian Weimer
* Arshad Noor:

 I may be a little naive, but can a protocol itself enforce proper
 key-management?  I can certainly see it facilitating the required
 discipline, but I can't see how a protocol alone can enforce it.
 Any examples you can cite where this has been done, would be very
 helpful.

As far as I understand it, you don't actually change protocols, which
means that there's likely no way around this problem.

 The design paradigm we chose for EKMI was to have:

 1) the centralized server be the focal point for defining policy;
 2) the protocol carry the payload with its corresponding policy;
 3) and the client library enforce the policy on client devices;

 In some form or another, don't all cryptographic systems follow a
 similar paradigm?

No, there are things like digital cash and mental poker which do not
work with a trusted third party.  I think it's even possible to compute
RSA signatures from a split private key in a way that is secure against
byzantine failure (IOW, a certain number of key holders needs to
cooperate to forge a signature or recover the private key).  There's
also quite a bit of research on operations on encrypted databases.

Of course, you cannot actually run an ordinary web shop on top of such
protocols because interfaces to the public and to the processors are
essentially fixed.  Cryptographically securing the middle end seems
rather pointless to me because the public-facing front end is the
component that causes most of the trouble.  (And I'm not fully convinced
that more encryption is the answer to that.)

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Re: Secure voice?

2008-07-06 Thread Victor Duchovni
On Fri, Jul 04, 2008 at 04:04:11PM -0700, Allen wrote:

 Interesting tidbit:
 
 http://www.epaynews.com/index.cgi?survey=ref=browsef=viewid=121516308313743148197block=
 
 Nick Ogden, a Briton who launched one of the world's first 
 e-commerce processors in 1994, has developed a system for 
 voice-signed financial transactions. The Voice Transact platform was 
 developed by Ogden's Voice Commerce Group in partnership with U.S. 
 speech software firm Nuance Communications.

Move along, yet another voice biometric system...

-- 
Viktor.

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Bletchley Park may be able to get UK lottery money...

2008-07-06 Thread Perry E. Metzger

There is some hope that Bletchley Park may be able to get money from
the UK national lottery, which is used to fund cultural institutions,
but nothing is nailed down yet. They're also apparently selling old
roofing slates as a fundraiser (they've been replacing them in the
process of fixing leaks in the main building.)

http://www.scmagazineuk.com/Exclusive-Bletchley-Park-set-for-Lottery-rescue/article/112100/

Hat tip: Slashdot.

Perry

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