Re: MS responds to Gutmann's Vista paper

2007-01-23 Thread Peter Gutmann
=?UTF-8?B?SXZhbiBLcnN0acSH?= [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Aside from admitting to increased CPU utilization, which seemed pretty
incontestable anyway, they're disputing [0] many of the points made in the
original paper [1]. 

Their response is a mixture of technical content and PR handwaving, I've
responded to the latter as part of the Vista writeup at
http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.html#response, and will
be integrating the technical clarifications into the body of the writeup when
I get time

Peter.


-
The Cryptography Mailing List
Unsubscribe by sending unsubscribe cryptography to [EMAIL PROTECTED]


MS responds to Gutmann's Vista paper

2007-01-20 Thread Ivan Krstić
Aside from admitting to increased CPU utilization, which seemed pretty
incontestable anyway, they're disputing [0] many of the points made in
the original paper [1]. Ignoring the hand-wavy arguments, I find most
interesting their claims that a) there will be no move away from unified
drivers, b) that HFS doesn't depend on, and therefore won't impact, open
source drivers, and c) that video quality is degraded only for specific
premium content rather than globally. Assuming all three are true, this
would downgrade the Vista content protection system from
cataclysmically braindead to merely extremely braindead -- a welcome
downgrade, given all of Peter's other points.


[0]
http://windowsvistablog.com/blogs/windowsvista/archive/2007/01/20/windows-vista-content-protection-twenty-questions-and-answers.aspx
[1] http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.html

-- 
Ivan Krstić [EMAIL PROTECTED] | GPG: 0x147C722D

-
The Cryptography Mailing List
Unsubscribe by sending unsubscribe cryptography to [EMAIL PROTECTED]


MS responds to Gutmann's Vista paper

2007-01-20 Thread Ivan Krstić
[Perry -- had a clause in there that made no sense; I shouldn't send
mail minutes after waking up. Please discard previous mail and send
along this one.]

[Moderator's note: Too late, sorry. --Perry]

Aside from admitting to increased CPU utilization, which seemed pretty
incontestable anyway, they're disputing [0] many of the points made in
the original paper [1]. Ignoring the hand-wavy arguments, I find most
interesting their claims that a) there will be no move away from unified
drivers, b) that HFS doesn't depend on driver-related video chip
features, and therefore won't impact (the creation of) open source
drivers, and c) that video quality is degraded only for specific premium
content rather than globally. Assuming all three are true, this would
downgrade the Vista content protection system from cataclysmically
braindead to merely extremely braindead -- a welcome downgrade, given
all of Peter's other points.

[0]
http://windowsvistablog.com/blogs/windowsvista/archive/2007/01/20/windows-vista-content-protection-twenty-questions-and-answers.aspx
[1] http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.html

-- 
Ivan Krstić [EMAIL PROTECTED] | GPG: 0x147C722D

-
The Cryptography Mailing List
Unsubscribe by sending unsubscribe cryptography to [EMAIL PROTECTED]