Re: Judge approves TRO to stop DEFCON presentation

2008-08-10 Thread David G. Koontz
Jim Youll wrote:
 these have been circulating for hours, but they are content-free title
 slides...
 
 On Aug 9, 2008, at 7:38 PM, Ivan Krstić wrote:
 
 On Sat, 09 Aug 2008 17:11:11 -0400, Perry E. Metzger
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
Las Vegas - Three students at the Massachusetts Institute of
Technology (MIT) were ordered this morning by a federal court
judge to cancel their scheduled presentation about vulnerabilities
in Boston's transit fare payment system, violating their First
Amendment right to discuss their important research.

 http://www-tech.mit.edu/V128/N30/subway/Defcon_Presentation.pdf

There's also the synopsis as an exhibit to the case found in the Wired
article.  Note the recommendations for corrective action are familiar from
the  previous reported weaknesses to the MIFARE system.


http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2008/08/injunction-requ.html
DefCon: Boston Subway Officials Sue to Stop Talk on Fare Card Hacks --
Update: Restraining Order Issued; Talk Cancelled

http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/files/vulnerability_assessment_of_the_mtba_system.pdf
Vulnerability Assessment of the MTBA System (Exhibit 1 to Case
1:08-cv-11364-GAO).

A report on the Dutch Public Transit Card:
http://staff.science.uva.nl/~delaat/sne-2006-2007/p41/report.pdf

Recently updated Dutch information by Andy Tanenbaum:
http://www.cs.vu.nl/~ast/ov-chip-card/

The fellows at Raboud University Nijmegan:
http://www.ru.nl/ds/research/rfid/

(Where we'll probably be able to find the Esorics 2008 presentation.
'Dismantling MIFARE Classic', in October.)

I'd imagine there is sufficient information available to replicate the
attack, there's info on the MIFARE Classic cryptographic algorithm.

http://www.cs.virginia.edu/~kn5f/pdf/Mifare.Cryptanalysis.pdf
http://www.cs.virginia.edu/~kn5f/pdf/OV-card_security.pdf

Algebraic Attacks on the Crypto-1 Stream Cipher in MiFare Classic
http://eprint.iacr.org/2008/166.pdf

Security Evalution of the disposable OV-chipkaart v1.7  updated 13 April 08
http://staff.science.uva.nl/~delaat/sne-2006-2007/p41/Report.pdf
(which has a description of the memory structure found on the cards as well
as a lot of useful protocol information.)

And the Translink Netherlands report on why disclosure doesn't matter:
http://www.translink.nl/media/bijlagen/nieuws/TNO_ICT_-_Security_Analysis_OV-Chipkaart_-_public_report.pdf
(translation: security through obscurity? still obscure enough)

And of course we've seen the Raboud video link found on Youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/v/NW3RGbQTLhEhl=en


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Re: Judge approves TRO to stop DEFCON presentation

2008-08-10 Thread Jim Youll

On Aug 9, 2008, at 8:46 PM, Jim Youll wrote:

these have been circulating for hours, but they are content-free  
title slides...


[Moderator's note: I've read them and they're far from content
free. They give you a recipe for doing things like rewriting the mag
stripes on stored value cards to give you arbitrary balances, and
they even include actual examples.


Apologies to all. it's a UI issue with the PDF reader I was using and  
the layout of the PDF file.
Pages other than the title slides - are obscured and it's not clear  
they're even present

(the pages are readily visible in Acrobat Reader)

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Re: Judge approves TRO to stop DEFCON presentation

2008-08-10 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
On Sat, 09 Aug 2008 19:38:45 -0400
Ivan Krsti__ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Sat, 09 Aug 2008 17:11:11 -0400, Perry E. Metzger
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Las Vegas - Three students at the Massachusetts Institute of
  Technology (MIT) were ordered this morning by a federal court
  judge to cancel their scheduled presentation about
  vulnerabilities in Boston's transit fare payment system, violating
  their First Amendment right to discuss their important research.
 
 http://www-tech.mit.edu/V128/N30/subway/Defcon_Presentation.pdf
 
And the vulnerability assessment they prepared -- filed by the MBTA in
court, and hence a matter of public record -- is at
http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/files/vulnerability_assessment_of_the_mtba_system.pdf


--Steve Bellovin, http://www.cs.columbia.edu/~smb

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Re: Judge approves TRO to stop DEFCON presentation

2008-08-09 Thread Ivan Krstić
On Sat, 09 Aug 2008 17:11:11 -0400, Perry E. Metzger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 Las Vegas - Three students at the Massachusetts Institute of
 Technology (MIT) were ordered this morning by a federal court
 judge to cancel their scheduled presentation about vulnerabilities
 in Boston's transit fare payment system, violating their First
 Amendment right to discuss their important research.

http://www-tech.mit.edu/V128/N30/subway/Defcon_Presentation.pdf

-- 
Ivan Krsti? [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://radian.org

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Re: Judge approves TRO to stop DEFCON presentation

2008-08-09 Thread Jim Youll
these have been circulating for hours, but they are content-free title  
slides...


[Moderator's note: I've read them and they're far from content
free. They give you a recipe for doing things like rewriting the mag
stripes on stored value cards to give you arbitrary balances, and
they even include actual examples. Also, Please Don't Top
Post. Please cut down quoted material to just the important content,
too. -Perry]

On Aug 9, 2008, at 7:38 PM, Ivan Krstić wrote:

On Sat, 09 Aug 2008 17:11:11 -0400, Perry E. Metzger [EMAIL PROTECTED] 


wrote:

   Las Vegas - Three students at the Massachusetts Institute of
   Technology (MIT) were ordered this morning by a federal court
   judge to cancel their scheduled presentation about vulnerabilities
   in Boston's transit fare payment system, violating their First
   Amendment right to discuss their important research.


http://www-tech.mit.edu/V128/N30/subway/Defcon_Presentation.pdf

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Ivan Krsti? [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://radian.org

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