Re: [cryptography] on using RDRAND [was: Entropy improvement: haveged + rngd together?]

2013-12-06 Thread Patrick Pelletier

On 12/2/13, 3:16 PM, dj-0ozvisyrzglbdgjk7y7...@public.gmane.org wrote:


I'm currently arguing with NIST about their specifications which make it
hard to provide raw entropy while being FIPS 140-2 and NIST SP800-90
compliant. If I had a free hand, it would not be a configuration.
Configurations suck in numerous ways. It would just be there.


Is the TRNG circuit small enough you could just slap down two of them, 
and use one to feed the NIST pipeline and use the other for raw entropy 
access?


--Patrick


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Re: [cryptography] State of the art in block ciphers?

2013-12-06 Thread Alan Braggins

On 05/12/13 11:41, coderman wrote:

On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 12:13 AM, Matthew Orgass darks...@city-net.com wrote:

...
   OTOH, for TLS ChaCha seems to me like the best choice at this point.


let me know when you are able to speak
TLS_ECDHE_ECDSA_WITH_CHACHA20_POLY1305_SHA256 between browser and
popular site! (or any browser and any site for that matter :)
  /impatient


Based on https://community.qualys.com/thread/12169
https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/analyze.html?d=google.coms=173.194.46.17
and https://www.imperialviolet.org/2013/10/07/chacha20.html
I'd say today for CHACHA20_POLY1305_SHA256 on popular site and any
browser (including developer/nightly builds), before end of the year
for mainstream browser.

That's TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_CHACHA20_POLY1305_SHA256 not
TLS_ECDHE_ECDSA_WITH_CHACHA20_POLY1305_SHA256, but close enough

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[cryptography] How is the MD2 hash function S-table constructed from Pi?

2013-12-06 Thread andrew cooke

Can anyone on the list answer this question? -
http://crypto.stackexchange.com/questions/11935/how-is-the-md2-hash-function-s-table-constructed-from-pi

The MD2 algorithm (defined in RFC 1319 - http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1319)
has a bunch of constants, a permutation of 256 bytes, that is said (section
3.2) to be derived from the digits of pi.  But there seems to be no record of
how.

Thanks,
Andrew
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Re: [cryptography] State of the art in block ciphers?

2013-12-06 Thread Rob Stradling

On 06/12/13 10:30, Alan Braggins wrote:

On 05/12/13 11:41, coderman wrote:

On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 12:13 AM, Matthew Orgass
darks...@city-net.com wrote:

...
   OTOH, for TLS ChaCha seems to me like the best choice at this point.


let me know when you are able to speak
TLS_ECDHE_ECDSA_WITH_CHACHA20_POLY1305_SHA256 between browser and
popular site! (or any browser and any site for that matter :)
  /impatient


Based on https://community.qualys.com/thread/12169
https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/analyze.html?d=google.coms=173.194.46.17
and https://www.imperialviolet.org/2013/10/07/chacha20.html
I'd say today for CHACHA20_POLY1305_SHA256 on popular site and any
browser (including developer/nightly builds), before end of the year
for mainstream browser.

That's TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_CHACHA20_POLY1305_SHA256 not
TLS_ECDHE_ECDSA_WITH_CHACHA20_POLY1305_SHA256, but close enough


https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/analyze.html?d=google.coms=173.194.115.46 
currently shows...


TLS_ECDHE_ECDSA_WITH_CHACHA20_POLY1305_SHA256 (0xcc14)

:-)

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COMODO - Creating Trust Online

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Re: [cryptography] State of the art in block ciphers?

2013-12-06 Thread coderman
On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 3:35 AM, Rob Stradling rob.stradl...@comodo.com wrote:
 ...
 https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/analyze.html?d=google.coms=173.194.115.46
 currently shows...

 TLS_ECDHE_ECDSA_WITH_CHACHA20_POLY1305_SHA256 (0xcc14)


thanks all for additional pointers; progess!

i am specifically curious about the mentioned Google servers and
Chrome will soon be supporting cipher suites based around ChaCha20 and
Poly1305. and In addition to support in Chrome and on Google's
servers, myself and my colleague, Elie Bursztein, are working on
patches for NSS and OpenSSL to support this cipher suite. from Adam's
blog post.[0]

latest Chrome Beta's still don't have it, they're all giving me
AES_GCM across various platforms. i have not yet tried the nightly
builds, this is what i need for the interim it seems...


best regards,


0. ChaCha20 and Poly1305 for TLS (07 Oct 2013)
  https://www.imperialviolet.org/2013/10/07/chacha20.html
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Re: [cryptography] State of the art in block ciphers?

2013-12-06 Thread Rob Stradling

On 06/12/13 20:22, coderman wrote:

On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 3:35 AM, Rob Stradling rob.stradl...@comodo.com wrote:

...
https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/analyze.html?d=google.coms=173.194.115.46
currently shows...

TLS_ECDHE_ECDSA_WITH_CHACHA20_POLY1305_SHA256 (0xcc14)



thanks all for additional pointers; progess!

i am specifically curious about the mentioned Google servers and
Chrome will soon be supporting cipher suites based around ChaCha20 and
Poly1305. and In addition to support in Chrome and on Google's
servers, myself and my colleague, Elie Bursztein, are working on
patches for NSS and OpenSSL to support this cipher suite. from Adam's
blog post.[0]


Various useful-looking patches here...
https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/deps/nss
https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/deps/openssl


latest Chrome Beta's still don't have it,


https://community.qualys.com/thread/12169 says:
Chrome 32 promotes Chacha20/Poly1305 suite.

However, https://twitter.com/agl__/statuses/398498980151033856 says:
Chrome 32 won't enable them when stable however: not yet ready.


they're all giving me
AES_GCM across various platforms. i have not yet tried the nightly
builds, this is what i need for the interim it seems...


best regards,


0. ChaCha20 and Poly1305 for TLS (07 Oct 2013)
   https://www.imperialviolet.org/2013/10/07/chacha20.html



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Senior Research  Development Scientist
COMODO - Creating Trust Online
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