Re: [cryptography] Stealthy analog trojans

2016-05-25 Thread mtm
guessing dopant level machinations dont matter?
On May 25, 2016 17:23, "Kevin"  wrote:

> Oh I'm not saying that it can't someday happen.
>
>
> On 5/25/2016 6:18 PM, d...@deadhat.com wrote:
>
>> I guess it was all just a matter of time.
>>>
>>>
>>> A matter of time until the authors of this and certain other related
>> papers realize that recreating new mask sets for deep sub wavelength
>> silicon imaging isn't like running things through a plotter.
>>
>> It's certainly worth considering these attack vectors (we certainly do)
>> but the naive optimism in the paper that you can just go in and edit masks
>> on a modern process is not well placed.
>>
>>
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Re: [cryptography] Stealthy analog trojans

2016-05-25 Thread Kevin

Oh I'm not saying that it can't someday happen.


On 5/25/2016 6:18 PM, d...@deadhat.com wrote:

I guess it was all just a matter of time.



A matter of time until the authors of this and certain other related
papers realize that recreating new mask sets for deep sub wavelength
silicon imaging isn't like running things through a plotter.

It's certainly worth considering these attack vectors (we certainly do)
but the naive optimism in the paper that you can just go in and edit masks
on a modern process is not well placed.




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Re: [cryptography] Stealthy analog trojans

2016-05-25 Thread dj
> I guess it was all just a matter of time.
>
>

A matter of time until the authors of this and certain other related
papers realize that recreating new mask sets for deep sub wavelength
silicon imaging isn't like running things through a plotter.

It's certainly worth considering these attack vectors (we certainly do)
but the naive optimism in the paper that you can just go in and edit masks
on a modern process is not well placed.

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Re: [cryptography] Stealthy analog trojans

2016-05-25 Thread Kevin

I guess it was all just a matter of time.


On 5/25/2016 11:25 AM, Ron Garret wrote:

Coming soon to a microprocessor near you

http://static1.1.sqspcdn.com/static/f/543048/26931843/1464016046717/A2_SP_2016.pdf?token=Sqki%2BUKuhrHYxCqc2HU9B1dlHEQ%3D

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[cryptography] Stealthy analog trojans

2016-05-25 Thread Ron Garret
Coming soon to a microprocessor near you

http://static1.1.sqspcdn.com/static/f/543048/26931843/1464016046717/A2_SP_2016.pdf?token=Sqki%2BUKuhrHYxCqc2HU9B1dlHEQ%3D

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