Re: [cryptography] TrueCrypt

2014-05-29 Thread Lukasz Biegaj

W dniu 28.05.2014 22:35, Sadiq Saif pisze:

http://truecrypt.sourceforge.net/
https://gist.github.com/anonymous/e5791d5703325b9cf6d1
https://twitter.com/matthew_d_green

So WTF happened?


The same thing that happened with Lavabit.


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Re: [cryptography] TrueCrypt

2014-05-29 Thread David Johnston


On 5/28/14, 11:16 PM, Lukasz Biegaj wrote:

W dniu 28.05.2014 22:35, Sadiq Saif pisze:

http://truecrypt.sourceforge.net/
https://gist.github.com/anonymous/e5791d5703325b9cf6d1
https://twitter.com/matthew_d_green

So WTF happened?


The same thing that happened with Lavabit.


Someone needs to fork the code (the version prior to the most recent 
change), address the issues raised in the recent audit and host it 
outside the jurisdiction of the US government, using fresh signing keys.


Letting the government crush all the effective security software and 
services with NSL letters would be a win for the forces of evil in the 
government. Enabling those things to continue would benefit everyone.




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Re: [cryptography] TrueCrypt

2014-05-29 Thread Lukasz Biegaj

On 29.05.2014 09:34, David Johnston wrote:



So WTF happened?


The same thing that happened with Lavabit.


Someone needs to fork the code (the version prior to the most recent 
change), address the issues raised in the recent audit and host it 
outside the jurisdiction of the US government, using fresh signing keys.




Nitpick: Truecrypt is proprietary (it's source is viewable, but you 
aren't licensed to distribute modifications of it).



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Re: [cryptography] TrueCrypt

2014-05-29 Thread tpb-crypto


 Message du 29/05/14 10:20
 De : Lukasz Biegaj 
 A : cryptography@randombit.net
 Copie à : 
 Objet : Re: [cryptography] TrueCrypt


 On 29.05.2014 09:34, David Johnston wrote:
 
  So WTF happened?
 
  The same thing that happened with Lavabit.
 
 
  Someone needs to fork the code (the version prior to the most recent 
  change), address the issues raised in the recent audit and host it 
  outside the jurisdiction of the US government, using fresh signing keys.
 
 
 Nitpick: Truecrypt is proprietary (it's source is viewable, but you 
 aren't licensed to distribute modifications of it).
 

That seems to not be a problem, if the owner does not complain. They will lose 
their anonymity if they do complain.
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Re: [cryptography] TrueCrypt

2014-05-29 Thread Dave Howe
On 29/05/2014 09:20, Lukasz Biegaj wrote:
 On 29.05.2014 09:34, David Johnston wrote:
 Someone needs to fork the code (the version prior to the most recent
 change), address the issues raised in the recent audit and host it
 outside the jurisdiction of the US government, using fresh signing keys.
Build environment is a bit of a 'mare though - possibly a new group
could fix that, and fold in reproducable builds too?


 Nitpick: Truecrypt is proprietary (it's source is viewable, but you
 aren't licensed to distribute modifications of it).
Not seeing that from the licence, TBH - it has the usual you can't call
it truecrypt stuff, and if you distribute a modified copy you have to
include an ACK to the project (like the BSD licence used to) and if you
make a larger product with bits of tc in it, it carries a gpl-like
requirement that the resulting product be under an OSS licence; not
seeing any restriction on it other than that. Maybe you could enlighten me?
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Re: [cryptography] TrueCrypt

2014-05-29 Thread Lukasz Biegaj

On 29.05.2014 14:15, Dave Howe wrote:

Nitpick: Truecrypt is proprietary (it's source is viewable, but you
aren't licensed to distribute modifications of it).

Not seeing that from the licence, TBH - it has the usual you can't call
it truecrypt stuff, and if you distribute a modified copy you have to
include an ACK to the project (like the BSD licence used to) and if you
make a larger product with bits of tc in it, it carries a gpl-like
requirement that the resulting product be under an OSS licence; not
seeing any restriction on it other than that. Maybe you could enlighten me?


You're right, I too couldn't find any clear restrictions on this, 
besides it seems that there is already a TC fork existing for some time: 
http://rpmfusion.org/Package/realcrypt


Sorry for the confusion.

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Re: [cryptography] TrueCrypt

2014-05-29 Thread Jeffrey Walton
Does anyone know if Greenwald or Poitras are holding relevant documents?

Dr. Schneier does not have much to add: I have no idea what's going
on with TrueCrypt.

On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 4:35 PM, Sadiq Saif li...@sadiqs.com wrote:
 http://truecrypt.sourceforge.net/
 https://gist.github.com/anonymous/e5791d5703325b9cf6d1
 https://twitter.com/matthew_d_green

 So WTF happened?

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Re: [cryptography] TrueCrypt

2014-05-29 Thread tpb-crypto
Unfortunately both seem to be too stupid to run grep in their files ... they go 
the old fashioned way. If they had sysadmin help, maybe the documents could be 
perl-filtered and have the most interesting bits extracted in one big file.

 Message du 29/05/14 23:56
 De : Jeffrey Walton 
 A : Sadiq Saif 

 Copie à : Cryptography List 
 Objet : Re: [cryptography] TrueCrypt


 Does anyone know if Greenwald or Poitras are holding relevant documents?
 
 Dr. Schneier does not have much to add: I have no idea what's going
 on with TrueCrypt.
 
 On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 4:35 PM, Sadiq Saif 
wrote:
  http://truecrypt.sourceforge.net/
  https://gist.github.com/anonymous/e5791d5703325b9cf6d1
  https://twitter.com/matthew_d_green
 
  So WTF happened?
 
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[cryptography] TrueCrypt

2014-05-28 Thread Sadiq Saif
http://truecrypt.sourceforge.net/
https://gist.github.com/anonymous/e5791d5703325b9cf6d1
https://twitter.com/matthew_d_green

So WTF happened?

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Re: [cryptography] TrueCrypt

2014-05-28 Thread Swair Mehta
1) Microsoft ended support for XP.
2) Elcomsoft claims the ability to retrieve master  secondary (XTS mode)
keys for TrueCrypt volumes/partitions from hibernation files.
3) Passware same as above.
4)
https://opencryptoaudit.org/reports/iSec_Final_Open_Crypto_Audit_Project_TrueCrypt_Security_Assessment.pdf-
header key derivation uses low iteration count
5) not sure if there is anything else.






On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 1:35 PM, Sadiq Saif li...@sadiqs.com wrote:

 http://truecrypt.sourceforge.net/
 https://gist.github.com/anonymous/e5791d5703325b9cf6d1
 https://twitter.com/matthew_d_green

 So WTF happened?

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Re: [cryptography] TrueCrypt

2014-05-28 Thread Kyle Maxwell
Sabu told me over lunch that Snowden revealed the NSA compromise of
TrueCrypt while having lunch with Putin in Crimea.

On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 4:02 PM, Swair Mehta swairme...@gmail.com wrote:
 1) Microsoft ended support for XP.
 2) Elcomsoft claims the ability to retrieve master  secondary (XTS mode)
 keys for TrueCrypt volumes/partitions from hibernation files.
 3) Passware same as above.
 4)
 https://opencryptoaudit.org/reports/iSec_Final_Open_Crypto_Audit_Project_TrueCrypt_Security_Assessment.pdf
 - header key derivation uses low iteration count
 5) not sure if there is anything else.






 On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 1:35 PM, Sadiq Saif li...@sadiqs.com wrote:

 http://truecrypt.sourceforge.net/
 https://gist.github.com/anonymous/e5791d5703325b9cf6d1
 https://twitter.com/matthew_d_green

 So WTF happened?

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Re: [cryptography] TrueCrypt

2014-05-28 Thread Sadiq Saif
On 5/28/2014 17:04, Kyle Maxwell wrote:
 Sabu told me over lunch that Snowden revealed the NSA compromise of
 TrueCrypt while having lunch with Putin in Crimea.
 

Good one.

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Re: [cryptography] TrueCrypt

2014-05-28 Thread Kevin

On 5/28/2014 4:35 PM, Sadiq Saif wrote:

http://truecrypt.sourceforge.net/
https://gist.github.com/anonymous/e5791d5703325b9cf6d1
https://twitter.com/matthew_d_green

So WTF happened?


So encrypt with BitLocker and decrypt with TrueCrypt?  Why?


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