Re: [css-d] IE Developer tool bar

2005-09-24 Thread David Dorward 
On 24/09/05, Rob Cochrane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Cut and paste the code below to a XHTML file or click here:
 http://www.by-rob.com/test/IE%20devtoolbar.htm
 No comment required:)

Comment required as getting IE with the toolbar up and running is more
than a little inconvienient for me.  Does it have something to do with
browsers paying attention to CSS when that document is served as
text/html but (correctly) ignoring it[1] when served with the correct
content type?


[1] style does not imply CDATA in XHTML, so markup and entities are
treated as such before being passed to the CSS parser.

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Re: [css-d] IE Developer tool bar

2005-09-24 Thread matthijs abeelen 
Why would anyone - certainly on this list - be interested in a toolbar for
IE?
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Re: [css-d] IE Developer tool bar

2005-09-24 Thread David Dorward 
On 24/09/05, matthijs abeelen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Why would anyone - certainly on this list - be interested in a toolbar for
 IE?

Obviously I'm interested, but not when I'm away from my test systems
and don't actually have IE.

Presumably there was something more to the message that started this
thread then There is a toolbar available since its (a) I've been
hearing about it for weeks (old news) and (b) the message was rather
insistant on the reader looking at an XHTML document rather then just
coming out and saying that the toolbar was available.

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[css-d] Need help on css positioning

2005-09-24 Thread Dinh 
hi everybody,

I have a simple XHTML file which define 4 division (div) in order of: banner
 container  sidebar  footer and use CSS to make a layout like this:
http://img246.imageshack.us/my.php?image=layoutsidebarallheight1wx.png

Hereunder is the XHTML file:

div id=banner
pXin chào bạn nhé: Banner/p
/div

div id=container
pĐây là vùng nội dung chính chứa các bài viết /p
pThis the strongmain content/strong part/p
pThis the main content part/p
pThis the main content part/p
/div

div id=sidebar

ul
liSidebar menu item 1/li
liSidebar này sẽ để dọc /li
litheo toàn bộ chiều cao/li
liS 4/li
/ul
/div

div id=footer
pThis is the footer/p
/div


I have a css file attached to this XHTML file.

#banner {
width:75%;
background-color: #FF;
float:left;
}
#container {
width:75%;
background-color: #FFCC33;
float:left;
}
#sidebar {
width:25%;
background-color: #99;
float:right;
}
#footer {
background-color: #6699FF;
clear:both;
}


As you can see I intend to set the width of the container and the banner
into 75% and push them to the left. I intend to reserve the space available
in the right after that for the sidebar whose width is set at 25% and
positioned to the right. But unfortunately, the sidebar has floated to the
right but it is always positioned under the banner.

http://img332.imageshack.us/img332/1461/4div0gd.png


I dont know the reason why although I have tried many solutions. The only
solution that has worked until now is that I need to reorder the XHTML div
code: banner  sidebar  container  footer.

Could I solve this problem in CSS file without having any touch on XHTML
code?

Thanks in advance

Dinh

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[css-d] Need help on css positioning

2005-09-24 Thread Dinh 
hi everybody,

I have a simple XHTML file which define 4 division (div) in order of: banner
 container  sidebar  footer and use CSS to make a layout like this:
http://img246.imageshack.us/my.php?image=layoutsidebarallheight1wx.png

Hereunder is the XHTML file:

div id=banner
pXin chào bạn nhé: Banner/p
/div

div id=container
pĐây là vùng nội dung chính chứa các bài viết /p
pThis the strongmain content/strong part/p
pThis the main content part/p
pThis the main content part/p
/div

div id=sidebar

ul
liSidebar menu item 1/li
liSidebar này sẽ để dọc /li
litheo toàn bộ chiều cao/li
liS 4/li
/ul
/div

div id=footer
pThis is the footer/p
/div


I have a css file attached to this XHTML file.

#banner {
width:75%;
background-color: #FF;
float:left;
}
#container {
width:75%;
background-color: #FFCC33;
float:left;
}
#sidebar {
width:25%;
background-color: #99;
float:right;
}
#footer {
background-color: #6699FF;
clear:both;
}


As you can see I intend to set the width of the container and the banner
into 75% and push them to the left. I intend to reserve the space available
in the right after that for the sidebar whose width is set at 25% and
positioned to the right. But unfortunately, the sidebar has floated to the
right but it is always positioned under the banner.

http://img332.imageshack.us/img332/1461/4div0gd.png


I dont know the reason why although I have tried many solutions. The only
solution that has worked until now is that I need to reorder the XHTML div
code: banner  sidebar  container  footer.

Could I solve this problem in CSS file without having any touch on XHTML
code?

Thanks in advance

Dinh
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Re: [css-d] IE Developer tool bar

2005-09-24 Thread designer 



matthijs abeelen wrote:


Why would anyone - certainly on this list - be interested in a toolbar for
IE?
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Looking at an IE  problem page actually in IE and using the Dom 
inspector (e.g.) could be very useful at times. Well, it would to me, 
anyway.


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Re: [css-d] Need help on css positioning

2005-09-24 Thread Steve Clay 
Saturday, September 24, 2005, 12:28:32 PM, Dinh wrote:
 http://img246.imageshack.us/my.php?image=layoutsidebarallheight1wx.png
 http://img332.imageshack.us/img332/1461/4div0gd.png

You need to make #banner the first element nested inside of #container.
Then you can remove #banner's width and float properties because it won't
need them.

You will have to touch the markup, but at least you won't have to change
your content order.

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Re: [css-d] IE Developer tool bar

2005-09-24 Thread Thierry Koblentz 
I installed it, but I think it's pretty disapointing regarding CSS.
This one delivers extra CSS tools:
http://www.nils.org.au/ais/web/resources/toolbar/index.html

Thierry | www.TJKDesign.com


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[css-d] Four Column Layout

2005-09-24 Thread Richard Brown 

Hi All

A short while ago I tried to do a four column layout and succeeded 
eventually! I am pondering the process and would like to try again 
building from the ground up. I want the design to be fixed width 
(800px) and available at 800 x 600 size.


The question I have in building this design the use of divs. I have an 
outer wrap to fix the size to 800px. Then where do I go from here. Two 
divs within this, one floating left and the other floating right. And 
then two divs within these divs again floating left or right. Or do I 
just have four divs, three floating left and one floating right.


What is the best way to go please? Maybe someone could send me to an 
article that would give me a clue?


Thanks

Rich
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Re: [css-d] IE Developer tool bar

2005-09-24 Thread Philip Quanjer 
I installed it, seems to only work in conjunction with IE. The Aardvark 
extension http://www.karmatics.com/aardvark/, which may as of now offer 
somewhat less extensive facilities, works in conjunction with Firefox.


Philip

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I installed it, but I think it's pretty disapointing regarding CSS.
This one delivers extra CSS tools:
http://www.nils.org.au/ais/web/resources/toolbar/index.html

Thierry | www.TJKDesign.com


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Re: [css-d] IE Developer tool bar

2005-09-24 Thread Rob Cochrane 

matthijs abeelen wrote:

Why would anyone - certainly on this list - be interested in a toolbar for
IE?
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Well it is quite simple. We have to test in IE we do not have a choice. 
And 29% of all traffic on this list is people begging help on IE issues 
and sometimes it would actually be nice to be able to do a little 
manipulation in IE to assist those who cannot get the browser to do what 
they want!


Rob

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[css-d] Readonly Attribute Selector Problem in Firefox?

2005-09-24 Thread Brett Merkey 
Firefox seems to want to force its own readonly gray on form elements when
a CSS attribute selector sets the background color to white.

Yet, *any* other color value except white will display as desired. Even
though the workaround is easy, (just use a value very close to white, such
as #fefefe) is this a bug or a behavior by some design whim I don't get?

Example here:

http://web.tampabay.rr.com/bmerkey/examples/readonly-attr-selector-firefox.html


Brett







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Re: [css-d] Readonly Attribute Selector Problem in Firefox?

2005-09-24 Thread Jan Brasna 

http://web.tampabay.rr.com/bmerkey/examples/readonly-attr-selector-firefox.html


White in my Firefox/1.0.6 cs-CZ WXP rv:1.7.10 (Gecko/20050717)

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Re: [css-d] Four Column Layout

2005-09-24 Thread Steve Clay 
Saturday, September 24, 2005, 3:46:35 PM, Richard wrote:
 divs within this, one floating left and the other floating right. And
 then two divs within these divs again floating left or right. Or do I 
 just have four divs, three floating left and one floating right.

Depends on what order you want your columns in in the source.  Once you've
determined that you can nest the DIVs so those bits of content come first.

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Re: [css-d] Why does the one graphic not show up for SOME?

2005-09-24 Thread Guy K. Haas 

Thanks.  I'll ask my mac informants about their widths.

In this case, though, my wife (whose laptop display is nowhere near that 
wide) could not even see THE BANNER, let alone the white colt, when 
viewing the site from its ISP.


When I put the files onto a jumpdrive and plugged it in to her laptop, 
all appears as it should.  Totally strange, but I'm still poking around 
at it.


Meanwhile, I'll set max- and min-widths.

--Guy


Gunlaug Sørtun wrote:

Guy K. Haas wrote:


http://covinahigh68.com/testing.htm




Can anyone explain why the white colt is not visible for some?



Check what screen/window-size they use. The white colt disappears into
the white background at width:1400, and reappears slightly at around
width:1546. So you need to define a max-width for that page, or a much
wider red background. Probably need a min-width also so it doesn't get
squashed.

regards
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Re: [css-d] Why does the one graphic not show up for SOME?

2005-09-24 Thread Gene Falck 

Hi Guy,

You wrote:

In this case, though, my wife (whose laptop display is nowhere near that 
wide) could not even see THE BANNER, let alone the white colt, when 
viewing the site from its ISP.


When I put the files onto a jumpdrive and plugged it in to her laptop, all 
appears as it should.  Totally strange, but I'm still poking around at it.


Ouch! That may mean it's not a CSS problem and, so,
off topic. It's not unheard of to have page behave
differently when called from a local file than when
called from a server due to the server sending out
a header--could be a bad mime type sent for the CSS
(almost on topic) or something else. What do you
think?

Regards,

Gene Falck
[EMAIL PROTECTED]





Meanwhile, I'll set max- and min-widths.

--Guy


Gunlaug Sørtun wrote:

Guy K. Haas wrote:


http://covinahigh68.com/testing.htm



Can anyone explain why the white colt is not visible for some?


Check what screen/window-size they use. The white colt disappears into
the white background at width:1400, and reappears slightly at around
width:1546. So you need to define a max-width for that page, or a much
wider red background. Probably need a min-width also so it doesn't get
squashed.
regards
Georg



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