Re: [css-d] help with margin-top IE versus FF

2008-11-12 Thread Angela French
I solved it by applying float:left to the bottom div.  Not sure why it
fixed it, but I'm not going to argue with it! 

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Subject: Re: [css-d] help with margin-top IE versus FF

Angela French wrote:
 I have two divs that sit on top of each other (in the html). I have
 applied a margin-top to the bottom div to provide space between the 2
 divs.

 IE7 renders the margin-top, but FF2 won't.  I have tried !important;
 but cannot get some space between them. 
  
 Angela French

   


Is the problem resolved in Firefox/3.0.3; and if not, could you provide 
a clickable link to the page/problem in question?

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Re: [css-d] help with margin-top IE versus FF

2008-11-12 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Angela French wrote:
 I solved it by applying float:left to the bottom div.  Not sure why
 it fixed it, but I'm not going to argue with it!

Educated guess: you experienced a collapsing margins case...

http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/box.html#collapsing-margins

...which 'float: left/right' on the right element fixes.

IE/win was probably already saved by its 'hasLayout' bug.

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[css-d] eliminate horizontal scrollbars

2008-11-12 Thread Ce Ce
Is there a way to eliminate horizontal scroll bars besides widening the
content area (or decreasing the inner contents)?

Thanks for any info on this!

Cecelia
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[css-d] css picture gallery with IE

2008-11-12 Thread Patrik Jansson
Hi,
I've been working on a site, which has several small image galleries of 
different buildings. Bigger image shows when thumbnail is hovered over. 
In FF and Safari the bigger images show nicely on the right side of the 
thumbnails with top of the image aligned with the top of the thumbnails.

In IE, however, the top of the bigger image is a bit lower than the 
thumbnails and when there are thumbnails in three or more rows, the 
bigger image drops even more down, approximately the height of one 
thumbnail. So it looks like IE thinks that the bigger image is 
positioned somehow relatively with the thumbnails..?

For example here there are two rows of thumbnails and IE shows the 
bigger image 1.5em or so below the line it should be in:
http://www.mondiara.com/x_tlehto.php?lang=en

In here there are three rows of thumbnails and the bigger image sinks lower:
http://www.mondiara.com/x_mia.php?lang=en

Four rows of thumbnails and bigger image is even lower:
http://www.mondiara.com/x_kantama.php?lang=en

css is here (gallery part from line 207, almost half way down):
http://www.mondiara.com/mondiara.css

Hopefully someone can figure out where the problem is, I've been staring 
at the code for too long and can't come up with anything any more.. :-/

regards,
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[css-d] funny css font issue

2008-11-12 Thread Scott Haneda
I have a simple site, here is the source:
!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN
 http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd;
html lang=en
head
meta http-equiv=content-type content=text/html;  
charset=iso-8859-1
titleUntitled/title
meta name=generator content=BBEdit 8.7
style
body {
margin: 0;
font-family: Baskerville, Heisi Mincho W3, Symbol, serif;
}

.wrapper {
border: 0px solid red;
margin-left: 2em;
}
/style
/head

Pretty basic, all is well in Fx and Safari.  I looked at it on Windows  
in IE the other day, and this is what i see:
http://www.newgeo.com/web/misc/153316-Picture%201.png
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[css-d] Off Topic -Fony Dropdown List - How?

2008-11-12 Thread Lou Hernsen
What should I be looking at to have my website offer a drop down list (or
ANY list) of fonts available on the users computer so they can choose a font
they want to see on my website? Javascript? PHP? is there a certain name for
this?

Thanks
Lou

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[css-d] Flash swf covers DW sprymenu drop downs

2008-11-12 Thread Barbara Oplinger
Hello,

This is my first time with an inquiry.

On October 2nd members Jimmy and Lourens had an exchange regarding  
this issue. Lourens suggested using SWFObject and this apparently  
solved Jimmy's problem.

I too have this problem (on all browsers) and tried the  
wmode=transparent parameter  approach which didn't work - unless  
I've done something wrong there. I am hoping that Jimmy or someone  
who's used it before, can explain in easy steps, how to incorporate  
SWFObject 2.0 into my xhtml page, or do what is necessary with the  
download.

I am not a programmer and feel the need to cry when I try to sort  
through all the info here http://code.google.com/p/swfobject/wiki/ 
api .  I realize that it involves changing the java srcript embed  
code, but how do I use this with the SWFObject that I've downloaded.

Thank you, Barbara

 div class=map
   object classid=clsid:D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-44455354  
codebase=http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab#version
 
=9,0,28,0 width=362 height=310
 param name=movie value=flash/commPort.swf /
 param name=quality value=high /
 param name=wmode value=transparent /
 embed src=flash/commPort.swf quality=high 
pluginspage=http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash
 
 type=application/x-shockwave-flash width=362 height=310/embed
   /object
 /div

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Re: [css-d] Flash swf covers DW sprymenu drop downs

2008-11-12 Thread Barbara Oplinger
sorry, here's the link if it helps to see:

http://www.natureinthecity.org/Nic_Css_Dev/community.html

..
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Re: [css-d] funny css font issue

2008-11-12 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh

On Nov 13, 2008, at 8:33 AM, Scott Haneda wrote:

 I have a simple site, here is the source:
 ...
   body {
   margin: 0;
   font-family: Baskerville, Heisi Mincho W3, Symbol, serif;
   }
   
   .wrapper {
   border: 0px solid red;
   margin-left: 2em;
   }
   /style
 /head

 Pretty basic, all is well in Fx and Safari.  I looked at it on Windows
 in IE the other day, and this is what i see:
 http://www.newgeo.com/web/misc/153316-Picture%201.png

Not surprising, really.  'Baskerville' and Heisi Mincho W3 are not  
available by default on the Windows platform, afaik. The browser (IE)  
then uses the third choice in your list: 'Symbol'. Which is wrong by  
itself. It should fall back to the default specified font (serif), as  
'Symbol' is not a font that can be used to display alphanumerical  
characters.


What is your reasoning for using those specific fonts ?

PS - Heisi Mincho W3 is misspelled in your list. 'Heisi' -- 'Heisei'

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Re: [css-d] Off Topic -Fony Dropdown List - How?

2008-11-12 Thread Holly Bergevin
From: Lou Hernsen [EMAIL PROTECTED]

What should I be looking at to have my website offer a drop down list (or
ANY list) of fonts available on the users computer so they can choose a font
they want to see on my website? Javascript? PHP? is there a certain name for
this?

To allow a user to use their favorite font on your website, simply do not set 
a font family anywhere in your style sheet. The user's browser preferences will 
prevail without any need for scripting.

~holly 
 
   
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[css-d] drop-down with active state on main menu

2008-11-12 Thread Karl Jacobs
Howdy all,

I'm doing the standard sons-of-suckerfish menu (and have been using it  
a while) but with a new site I'm being requested to have an active  
state where the current section is highlighted in the main nav.

Of course, it works fine in Safari, Firefox, but not IE.

I suspect it's something with adding an additional class with  
the :hover pseudo class, but I'm not sure how it should be formatted.

relevant CSS and html as follows:  (where on is the class that  
highlights the active section)

---

 li class=ona href=comm.htmlCommunication  
Tools/a
ul
lia 
href=test.htmlTest 2/a/li
lia 
href=test.htmlTest 3/a/li
lia 
href=test.htmlTest 4/a/li
lia 
href=test.htmlTest 5/a/li
/ul   
/li


---

#top_menu li:hover ul, #top_menu li.on:hover ul, #mainnav li.sfhover  
ul, #mainnav li.on.sfhover ul {
left: auto;
}

---

I changed the normal left: -999em; on the ul   to a -9em to see if  
the menu was showing up at all, and it indeed shows, but it doesn't  
move.  So it would seem the problem is with mixing the extra class  
with the :hover pseudo class.

Any ideas?..

Thanks!

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Re: [css-d] funny css font issue

2008-11-12 Thread Scott Haneda
On Nov 12, 2008, at 4:10 PM, Philippe Wittenbergh wrote:


 On Nov 13, 2008, at 8:33 AM, Scott Haneda wrote:

 I have a simple site, here is the source:
 ...
  body {
  margin: 0;
  font-family: Baskerville, Heisi Mincho W3, Symbol, serif;
  }
  
  .wrapper {
  border: 0px solid red;
  margin-left: 2em;
  }
  /style
 /head

 Pretty basic, all is well in Fx and Safari.  I looked at it on  
 Windows
 in IE the other day, and this is what i see:
 http://www.newgeo.com/web/misc/153316-Picture%201.png

 Not surprising, really.  'Baskerville' and Heisi Mincho W3 are not
 available by default on the Windows platform, afaik. The browser (IE)
 then uses the third choice in your list: 'Symbol'. Which is wrong by
 itself. It should fall back to the default specified font (serif), as
 'Symbol' is not a font that can be used to display alphanumerical
 characters.


 What is your reasoning for using those specific fonts ?

 PS - Heisi Mincho W3 is misspelled in your list. 'Heisi' --  
 'Heisei'


Wierd, how did I not catch that, that was a bad copy and paste of a  
font set if I have ever seen one, thanks.
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Re: [css-d] drop-down with active state on main menu

2008-11-12 Thread Blake
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 12:04 PM, Karl Jacobs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Any ideas?..

I don't believe IE supports chaining multiple classes. i.e. #mainnav
li.on.sfhover ul

I'm not sure if you can remove one of those classes and still keep the
functionality that you require.

If you need both classes in the selector you could change the on
class into an ID, but you'd probably need to give it a more unique
name. e.g.

#mainnav li#mainnav_on.sfhover ul

That should work in IE.

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Re: [css-d] drop-down with active state on main menu

2008-11-12 Thread Karl Jacobs
Not working yet...   hmmm


#top_menu li:hover ul, #top_menu li#on:hover ul,  #top_menu li.sfhover  
ul,  #top_menu li#on.sfhover ul  {
left: auto;
}

The on state won't move the drop-down menu into the proper position  
still.

Anyone got an example using suckerfish with an active state on the  
main nav?..(never done it before myself, as I'm usually dropping  
the nav in a include file, which would rule out active state).

Thanks,

-- Karl


On Nov 12, 2008, at 5:23 PM, Blake wrote:

 On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 12:04 PM, Karl Jacobs [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
 wrote:
 Any ideas?..

 I don't believe IE supports chaining multiple classes. i.e. #mainnav
 li.on.sfhover ul

 I'm not sure if you can remove one of those classes and still keep the
 functionality that you require.

 If you need both classes in the selector you could change the on
 class into an ID, but you'd probably need to give it a more unique
 name. e.g.

 #mainnav li#mainnav_on.sfhover ul

 That should work in IE.

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[css-d] IE6/7 (standards-mode) dynamic width divs (using percentages and float:left) seem to spill when = 100%?

2008-11-12 Thread Michael Park
Hi there,

I've been reading quite a bit about the various IE box model 
float-related work-arounds, but I haven't encountered anything yet to
my knowledge that  addresses or explains the issue that I'm seeing
with IE6/7 (thankfully, IE5.x is old enough to be out of the picture
for this project).

Basically, my intention is to create dynamic widths, evenly divided
amongst several columns totalling up to 100% of the containing div
(yes, this is more or less doable with tables, but I'm trying to
determine why this is so troublesome with divs). Here's the simplest
example I could think of:

...
  div id=x
div id=x_1part1/div
div id=x_2part2/div
  /div
...

http://emparq.com/scratch/test1.html

Note that:
- the width of parent div is unspecified (to allow resizing)
- each child div (containing the text 'part1' and 'part2')
  * gets 50% of the width (thus totalling 100%)
  * floated to the left

...when resizing the browser window in IE6/7, sometimes 'part 2' will
apparently exceed the container width, and spill over into the next
row (placed under 'part 1'). This looks like something float or
box-model-related, as quirks-mode doesn't seem to suffer this problem:

(note: only the DOCTYPE directive was removed)
http://emparq.com/scratch/test0.html

...and while that's all well and good, quirks-mode isn't really a
viable option. Moving on, I tried removing the 'width' and 'float' css
properties from the 2nd child div (the one containing the text
'part2') to let it consume the remainder of the parent's width:

http://emparq.com/scratch/test2.html

...which does succeed at rendering how I wanted. But really, what I'm
trying to understand is why floated divs with widths totalling up to
100% causes spillover? And is there a way to prevent that (perhaps
using some obscure combination of css properties?), while leaving the
'float' and 'width' properties intact?

Some other attempts: (that didn't correct the behavior):

- setting 'overflow:visible'
- setting 'margin', 'padding', and 'border' to 0 on child divs
- 'zoom:1' (I don't think 'hasLayout' should be an issue anyways,
since I'm already using width?)

Could anyone help enlighten me on what's going on with this behavior,
and if there's a better approach to
evenly-divided-yet-dynamically-resizing-width divs than what I've got
in 'test2.html'?

Thanks.


--Mike
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