Re: [css-d] IE6 and percentages

2009-08-19 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh

On Aug 19, 2009, at 1:37 PM, Luc wrote:

 (and there  is a loose } in your css)

 Same here: no excuse.

ah, that is better; now the page displays as expected in my Gecko  
nightly build, which has a stricter error parser.

Dunno what to suggest about iExploder 6. Thing doesn't know what a  
containing block is, and compute the 80% width based on the closest  
haslayout container.

Actually, scrap that, you have a little issue with this:
* html #maincontainer * { position: relative; zoom:1; }
/* __everything__ has pos. relative */
remove that block and only apply 'zoom' to specific elements.

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[css-d] help removing the tables?

2009-08-19 Thread Greg Wilker
Hello everyone,

I threw 2 tables in to get this out to the client quickly for feedback - but
I'd like to get ride of them.

I was having alignment issues with the divs. does anyone have any advice
that might help?

http://67.20.67.77/HTN/default-old.html

(It is the 2 bottom element on the right - I think I am complicating it too
much)

- Greg

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Re: [css-d] css-d Digest, Vol 81, Issue 16

2009-08-19 Thread ross
I will be away from the office for the two weeks between August, 15 2009 and 
August, 30 2009. If you require immediate assistance, please contact Visual 
Lizard at (204) 957-5520 and follow the voicemail instructions.

Thank you, and I will talk to you when I return.

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[css-d] Image Background

2009-08-19 Thread Victor Subervi
Hi;
I saw this done somewhere but lost track of it. What I would like to do is
put a resizable background image (or color) behind pics I put on a Web site,
such that, for example, it ends up bordering the image 10 px all around. How
do I do this?
TIA,
Victor
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Re: [css-d] Image Background

2009-08-19 Thread tedd
At 8:44 AM -0500 8/19/09, Victor Subervi wrote:
Hi;
I saw this done somewhere but lost track of it. What I would like to do is
put a resizable background image (or color) behind pics I put on a Web site,
such that, for example, it ends up bordering the image 10 px all around. How
do I do this?
TIA,
Victor

Victor:

You mean like a frame around a picture?

Cheers,

tedd

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Re: [css-d] Help with Spry drop down menu in IE 7

2009-08-19 Thread Randy Edmunds
Hi Steven,

 I'm creating a Spry vertical drop down menu in Dreamweaver.  
 It works fine in Firefox,
 but takes on a different form in IE 7.  The submenus drop
 horizontally.  More importantly, when the web page font
 size is increased, a
 white text box is shown behind the submenu.  The more I
 increase the front size
 of the web page, the more pronounced this white text box
 becomes. http://www.asyousow.org/sustainability/test.shtml.
 This white text box behind the submenu disappears in IE 8, but
 the submenus still drop horizontally.  Any words of wisdom?

Unless you understand the underlying CSS and JS used to create the menu and can 
ask your question in those terms, you're probably better off using the Spry 
Forum:

http://forums.adobe.com/community/labs/spry

Hope this helps,
Randy Edmunds

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[css-d] Safari Alignment Problems

2009-08-19 Thread Ecklund, Karen - DNR
I'm a web publisher for an online version of a magazine. Story pages are not 
displaying correctly in Safari.  I'm not well-versed in the use of css but I 
can have another colleague interpret your responses for me. I have validated 
the html.  Here are my two issues:

#1

http://ua.dnr.wi.gov/wnrmag/testing/20005855.jpg
BrowserCam screen shot of a Safari 2009 story page
Problem: all page content is shifted far right and creates a horizontal scroll 
bar

Link to CSS:
http://dnr.wi.gov/wnrmag/css/wnrmag.css

Link to Live page:
http://dnr.wi.gov/wnrmag/2009/08/tanager.htm


#2

http://ua.dnr.wi.gov/wnrmag/testing/20006322.jpg
BrowserCam screen shot of a Safari 2005 story page
Problem: horizontal navigation bar and page content are overlapping

Link to CSS:
http://dnr.wi.gov/wnrmag/css/story.css

Link to Live page:
http://dnr.wi.gov/wnrmag/html/stories/2005/apr05/light.htm 


Any insight you can provide is greatly appreciated.  Karen
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Re: [css-d] Safari Alignment Problems

2009-08-19 Thread Theresa Mesa
*Neither* site's HTML validates to the W3C validator. Neither site's  
CSS validates, either. It's good to get the validation of both taken  
care of first. It's amazing what can be fixed in a browser if the code  
validates.


Theresa




On Aug 19, 2009, at 9:29 AM, Ecklund, Karen - DNR wrote:

 I'm a web publisher for an online version of a magazine. Story pages  
 are not displaying correctly in Safari.  I'm not well-versed in the  
 use of css but I can have another colleague interpret your responses  
 for me. I have validated the html.  Here are my two issues:

 #1

 http://ua.dnr.wi.gov/wnrmag/testing/20005855.jpg
 BrowserCam screen shot of a Safari 2009 story page
 Problem: all page content is shifted far right and creates a  
 horizontal scroll bar

 Link to CSS:
 http://dnr.wi.gov/wnrmag/css/wnrmag.css

 Link to Live page:
 http://dnr.wi.gov/wnrmag/2009/08/tanager.htm


 #2

 http://ua.dnr.wi.gov/wnrmag/testing/20006322.jpg
 BrowserCam screen shot of a Safari 2005 story page
 Problem: horizontal navigation bar and page content are overlapping

 Link to CSS:
 http://dnr.wi.gov/wnrmag/css/story.css

 Link to Live page:
 http://dnr.wi.gov/wnrmag/html/stories/2005/apr05/light.htm


 Any insight you can provide is greatly appreciated.  Karen
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[css-d] Fwd: Image Background

2009-08-19 Thread Victor Subervi
Great! That works nicely. Now, I understand it's possible to do it with
images...but how? How would they resize according to the size of the image
around which they're framing, or be put in the background of those images?
TIA,
Victor


On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 11:01 AM, Ron Zisman ronzis...@mac.com wrote:


 On Aug 19, 2009, at 9:44 AM, Victor Subervi wrote:

  Hi;
 I saw this done somewhere but lost track of it. What I would like to do is
 put a resizable background image (or color) behind pics I put on a Web
 site,
 such that, for example, it ends up bordering the image 10 px all around.
 How
 do I do this?
 TIA,
 Victor


 something like this?
 img {border:10px solid blue;}

 you could use (css) padding or border to create the colored background
 --ron


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[css-d] li's indenting

2009-08-19 Thread lev rickards
The following page has an unordered list of p's with a variety of
content held within the p, including a left floated image. The li's
are set to clear:both. In ie6, the page gives an odd step-wise or
nested indentation effect. Any thoughts? (I'm probably missing
something simple...)

http://green.harvard.edu/hbs/find-your-rep

Note that I've only tested this problem on Windows XP, ie6, Firefox
3.0.13 and Safari 3.2.2.

Thank you,
Lev

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Re: [css-d] Fwd: Image Background

2009-08-19 Thread Tom Livingston
A container would have a background image larger than the viewable
area. As the content of that container increased in size, more of the
bg image would show. Pad container as needed for border effect. Just a
suggestion.

HTH

On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 3:03 PM, Victor Subervivictorsube...@gmail.com wrote:
 Great! That works nicely. Now, I understand it's possible to do it with
 images...but how? How would they resize according to the size of the image
 around which they're framing, or be put in the background of those images?
 TIA,
 Victor



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Re: [css-d] li's indenting

2009-08-19 Thread Tom Livingston
Unfortunately, I can't test this now, but did you try explicitly
clearing the float in teh p, say with a br class=clear/ using:

.clear{clear:both; font-size:0px; line-height:0; margin:0; padding:0;}

might be behind the times with clearing, but so's IE6...

HTH

On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 3:18 PM, lev rickardslev.ricka...@gmail.com wrote:
 The following page has an unordered list of p's with a variety of
 content held within the p, including a left floated image. The li's
 are set to clear:both. In ie6, the page gives an odd step-wise or
 nested indentation effect. Any thoughts? (I'm probably missing
 something simple...)

 http://green.harvard.edu/hbs/find-your-rep

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Re: [css-d] Safari Alignment Problems

2009-08-19 Thread Ecklund, Karen - DNR
Thanks Theresa...I have now validated the html and the display problems are 
still there...any more suggestions?  Thanks. Karen

-Original Message-
From: Theresa Mesa [mailto:trixiesirishe...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 11:38 AM
To: Ecklund, Karen - DNR
Cc: css-d@lists.css-discuss.org
Subject: Re: [css-d] Safari Alignment Problems

*Neither* site's HTML validates to the W3C validator. Neither site's CSS 
validates, either. It's good to get the validation of both taken care of first. 
It's amazing what can be fixed in a browser if the code validates.


Theresa




On Aug 19, 2009, at 9:29 AM, Ecklund, Karen - DNR wrote:

 I'm a web publisher for an online version of a magazine. Story pages 
 are not displaying correctly in Safari.  I'm not well-versed in the 
 use of css but I can have another colleague interpret your responses 
 for me.  Here are my two issues:

 #1

 http://ua.dnr.wi.gov/wnrmag/testing/20005855.jpg
 BrowserCam screen shot of a Safari 2009 story page
 Problem: all page content is shifted far right and creates a 
 horizontal scroll bar

 Link to CSS:
 http://dnr.wi.gov/wnrmag/css/wnrmag.css

 Link to Live page:
 http://dnr.wi.gov/wnrmag/2009/08/tanager.htm


 #2

 http://ua.dnr.wi.gov/wnrmag/testing/20006322.jpg
 BrowserCam screen shot of a Safari 2005 story page
 Problem: horizontal navigation bar and page content are overlapping

 Link to CSS:
 http://dnr.wi.gov/wnrmag/css/story.css

 Link to Live page:
 http://dnr.wi.gov/wnrmag/html/stories/2005/apr05/light.htm


 Any insight you can provide is greatly appreciated.  Karen 
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Re: [css-d] Safari Alignment Problems

2009-08-19 Thread David Laakso
Ecklund, Karen - DNR wrote:
 I'm a web publisher for an online version of a magazine. Story pages are not 
 displaying correctly in Safari.  I'm not well-versed in the use of css but I 
 can have another colleague interpret your responses for me. I have validated 
 the html.  Here are my two issues:

 #1

 Link to CSS:
 http://dnr.wi.gov/wnrmag/css/wnrmag.css

 Link to Live page:
 http://dnr.wi.gov/wnrmag/2009/08/tanager.htm

   




Try:
table {clear: both;}















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Re: [css-d] Safari Alignment Problems

2009-08-19 Thread Tim Snadden

On 20/08/2009, at 8:02 AM, Ecklund, Karen - DNR wrote:

 Thanks Theresa...I have now validated the html and the display  
 problems are still there...any more suggestions?  Thanks. Karen

 -Original Message-
 From: Theresa Mesa [mailto:trixiesirishe...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 11:38 AM
 To: Ecklund, Karen - DNR
 Cc: css-d@lists.css-discuss.org
 Subject: Re: [css-d] Safari Alignment Problems

 *Neither* site's HTML validates to the W3C validator. Neither site's  
 CSS validates, either. It's good to get the validation of both taken  
 care of first. It's amazing what can be fixed in a browser if the  
 code validates.


 Theresa




 On Aug 19, 2009, at 9:29 AM, Ecklund, Karen - DNR wrote:

 I'm a web publisher for an online version of a magazine. Story pages
 are not displaying correctly in Safari.  I'm not well-versed in the
 use of css but I can have another colleague interpret your responses
 for me.  Here are my two issues:

 #1

 http://ua.dnr.wi.gov/wnrmag/testing/20005855.jpg
 BrowserCam screen shot of a Safari 2009 story page
 Problem: all page content is shifted far right and creates a
 horizontal scroll bar

 Link to CSS:
 http://dnr.wi.gov/wnrmag/css/wnrmag.css

 Link to Live page:
 http://dnr.wi.gov/wnrmag/2009/08/tanager.htm


 #2

 http://ua.dnr.wi.gov/wnrmag/testing/20006322.jpg
 BrowserCam screen shot of a Safari 2005 story page
 Problem: horizontal navigation bar and page content are overlapping

 Link to CSS:
 http://dnr.wi.gov/wnrmag/css/story.css

 Link to Live page:
 http://dnr.wi.gov/wnrmag/html/stories/2005/apr05/light.htm


 Any insight you can provide is greatly appreciated.  Karen

There is no such thing as 'clear: all', it's 'clear: both'. I don't  
know why it wasn't picked up by the validator.

Validate your CSS as well.

http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator?profile=css21warning=0uri=http%3A%2F%2Fdnr.wi.gov%2Fwnrmag%2Fhtml%2Fstories%2F2005%2Fapr05%2Flight.htm
 
 

Please bottom post!

cheers, Tim

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Re: [css-d] li's indenting

2009-08-19 Thread Tim Snadden

On 20/08/2009, at 7:18 AM, lev rickards wrote:

 The following page has an unordered list of p's with a variety of
 content held within the p, including a left floated image. The li's
 are set to clear:both. In ie6, the page gives an odd step-wise or
 nested indentation effect. Any thoughts? (I'm probably missing
 something simple...)

 http://green.harvard.edu/hbs/find-your-rep


Give the list items 'layout'. One way is via the proprietary MS CSS  
'zoom: 1' (in a conditional comment).

http://www.satzansatz.de/cssd/onhavinglayout.html

Cheers, Tim
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Re: [css-d] Fwd: Image Background

2009-08-19 Thread Victor Subervi
Are you suggesting something like this?

#*container* {
width: 780px;
font-family: Arial;
font-size: 0.8em;
*background*: url(../*image*s/bg*image*.jpg) repeat-y 50% 10%;
border: 1px solid #e6930f;
}

img #*container* {*background*: url(*image*/bg*image*.jpg) repeat-y 50%
10%;}
If so, what do I do about the width variable, toss it out and add a border:
10px instead?
TIA,
Victor


On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 2:16 PM, Tom Livingston tom...@gmail.com wrote:

 A container would have a background image larger than the viewable
 area. As the content of that container increased in size, more of the
 bg image would show. Pad container as needed for border effect. Just a
 suggestion.

 HTH

 On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 3:03 PM, Victor Subervivictorsube...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Great! That works nicely. Now, I understand it's possible to do it with
  images...but how? How would they resize according to the size of the
 image
  around which they're framing, or be put in the background of those
 images?
  TIA,
  Victor
 


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Re: [css-d] li's indenting

2009-08-19 Thread David Laakso
lev rickards wrote:
 The following page has an unordered list of p's with a variety of
 content held within the p, including a left floated image. The li's
 are set to clear:both. In ie6, the page gives an odd step-wise or
 nested indentation effect. Any thoughts? (I'm probably missing
 something simple...)

 http://green.harvard.edu/hbs/find-your-rep

 Note that I've only tested this problem on Windows XP, ie6, Firefox
 3.0.13 and Safari 3.2.2.

 Thank you,
 Lev

   

Both IE/6 and IE/7 exhibit the problem.
*:first-child+html .content ul li {margin: 0; padding: 0;} * html 
.content ul li {margin: 0; padding: 0;}

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Re: [css-d] Fwd: Image Background

2009-08-19 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh

On Aug 20, 2009, at 4:03 AM, Victor Subervi wrote:

 Great! That works nicely. Now, I understand it's possible to do it  
 with
 images...but how? How would they resize according to the size of the  
 image
 around which they're framing, or be put in the background of those  
 images?

Were you thinking of the CSS-3 border-image property?
sample page
http://www.css3.info/preview/border-image/
docs
http://www.w3.org/TR/css3-background/#the-border-image

Bear in mind that this only works in Firefox 3.5.x and Safari 3.2+/ 
Chrome 2.

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Re: [css-d] Site Help - Problem with IE7 in some circumstances (on wide monitors)

2009-08-19 Thread Edward Spodick
Thanks much to Tim Snadden, who identified a workaround for IE7 of movind the 
page centering styles (margins auto with fixed width) from the body tag to a 
new container tag.  I am now working to implement, and am glad it works.

-Edward


At 11:49 AM +0800 8/18/09, Edward Spodick wrote:
Good morning, everyone.

I have just learned that our updated website design breaks our navigation bar 
in MSIE7 on 22 wide monitors with 1680x1050 resolution and 96 DPI Windows 
settings.  Several other MSIE7 configurations are not showing this problem.

The page loads fine, and looks fine initially.  But when the window is 
resized, the navbar under the banner image remains in a fixed location, 
instead of moving with the rest of the layout.

This seems to be caused or triggered by position: relative; in the 
navigation.css, but without that the navbar becomes rather useless.

I would greatly appreciate some help on this - hopefully some innocuous thing 
which would resolve the entire issue smoothly.  Note that except for our home 
page, we do not use separate stylesheets for different browsers, nor is that 
an option here - so I need a solution which can be placed in the existing 
stylesheet(s), would fix the IE7 sometimes issue, and not break everything 
else.  On the other hand, I no longer care if IE6 breaks. :)

I just had a vision of Don Quixote charging a windmill.

Specific page example:
  http://library.ust.hk/serv/qqq-faculty.html
  the drop-down navigation bar does not move when the window is resized.
  it uses http://library.ust.hk/css/navigation.css

If you have read this far - thank you.  I sort of hope someone will read 
partway in and realize I have missed something obvious.

I remain, yours in styled pain,

-Edward

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Re: [css-d] Doctype.com - QA site for designers

2009-08-19 Thread David Laakso
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 11:42 AM, Paul Farnell p...@salted.com wrote:

 Hello everyone,

 Last week I launched a question and answer site for web designers,
 that I thought might interest people here: http://doctype.com

 When you ask a web design question, you can choose to have cross-
 browser screenshots generated automatically for any browser. Doctype
 also archives your HTML and CSS code. These two things combined should
 make it easier to solve people's CSS problems, I hope.

 Here's a good example of a question, together with its screenshots and
 CSS: http://doctype.com/2jZ

 Whilst there's certainly some overlap with css-discuss, I hope that
 Doctype will, in time, become a useful complement to this list.

 I'd be delighted to hear any feedback or suggestions you may have. I
 hope that some of you will join me over on Doctype!

 Cheers,

 Paul

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