[css-d] Jigsaw validator

2010-02-15 Thread Rick Pasotto
I don't understand what the validator is telling me.

My css:

div#header {
position: relative;
width: 100%;
height: 90px;
background: white url(../images/cont-bl.gif) bottom left no-repeat;
z-index: 0;
margin-bottom: 15px;
}

What jigsaw says:

83   div#header  Value Error : background Too many values or
values are not recognized : white url(../images/cont-bl.gif) bottom
left no-repeat  white url(../images/cont-bl.gif) bottom left no-repeat

Why does jigsaw give the values twice?

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Re: [css-d] Jigsaw validator

2010-02-15 Thread Troy Harshman
It may want you to have everything in the exact order. For the
background shorthand the technically correct order would be:
background: #fff url('../images/cont-bl.gif') no-repeat bottom left.
So it may have arrived at your position properties and assumed that
was the end and didn't expect any other properties to follow.

On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 12:14 PM, Rick Pasotto r...@niof.net wrote:
 I don't understand what the validator is telling me.

 My css:

 div#header {
    position: relative;
    width: 100%;
    height: 90px;
    background: white url(../images/cont-bl.gif) bottom left no-repeat;
    z-index: 0;
    margin-bottom: 15px;
 }

 What jigsaw says:

 83       div#header      Value Error : background Too many values or
 values are not recognized : white url(../images/cont-bl.gif) bottom
 left no-repeat  white url(../images/cont-bl.gif) bottom left no-repeat

 Why does jigsaw give the values twice?

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Re: [css-d] Jigsaw validator

2010-02-15 Thread Gabriele Romanato
Nope. The order in this case is ignored. Even the color value is  
regognized as a valid CSS 2.1 color value.
If all browsers apply the rule, then the validator is wrong. Token  
order in shorthand notation is not so fixed.
Please report this problem to the validator maintainers. Maybe  
something in the construction of the parse tree should be  
reformulated. bye ;-)

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Re: [css-d] Jigsaw validator

2010-02-15 Thread ljr
I'm not sure what's going on when you run the validator, but your CSS
entered into Jigsaw's direct input form correctly reports that your CSS is
valid CSS 2.1 and/or CSS 3.

 I don't understand what the validator is telling me.

 My css:

 div#header {
 position: relative;
 width: 100%;
 height: 90px;
 background: white url(../images/cont-bl.gif) bottom left no-repeat;
 z-index: 0;
 margin-bottom: 15px;
 }

 What jigsaw says:

 83 div#header  Value Error : background Too many values or
 values are not recognized : white url(../images/cont-bl.gif) bottom
 left no-repeat  white url(../images/cont-bl.gif) bottom left no-repeat

 Why does jigsaw give the values twice?

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Re: [css-d] divs dropping

2010-02-15 Thread ed
 http://www.copywritecolombia.com/index3.html

Thank-you David that has sorted out the dropping divs. In firefox and ie
the white centre div wrapper which contains the footer now seems to go
right to the bottom of the page. If I change the text size +2 then the
design doesn't break which is great. However if I get rid of styles then
it does break. What -if any-solution exists?  Thanks

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Re: [css-d] divs dropping

2010-02-15 Thread Chris F.A. Johnson
On Mon, 15 Feb 2010, e...@copywritecolombia.com wrote:

  http://www.copywritecolombia.com/index3.html
 
 Thank-you David that has sorted out the dropping divs. In firefox and ie
 the white centre div wrapper which contains the footer now seems to go
 right to the bottom of the page. If I change the text size +2 then the
 design doesn't break which is great. However if I get rid of styles then
 it does break. What -if any-solution exists?  Thanks

   At my default font size, the right-hand-side text overflows the
   outline: http://cfajohnson.com/testing/cwc.jpg.

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Re: [css-d] divs dropping

2010-02-15 Thread David Laakso
e...@copywritecolombia.com wrote:
  http://www.copywritecolombia.com/index3.html

 Thank-you David that has sorted out the dropping divs. In firefox and ie
 the white centre div wrapper which contains the footer now seems to go
 right to the bottom of the page. If I change the text size +2 then the
 design doesn't break which is great. However if I get rid of styles then
 it does break. What -if any-solution exists?  Thanks
   



If the style sheet for any page on the Web is deleted or disabled then 
the the page is displayed as simple html markup. Or, is it that I just 
do not understand your question?

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Re: [css-d] divs dropping

2010-02-15 Thread David Laakso
Chris F.A. Johnson wrote:
 On Mon, 15 Feb 2010, e...@copywritecolombia.com wrote:

   
  http://www.copywritecolombia.com/index3.html

 Thank-you David that has sorted out the dropping divs. In firefox and ie
 the white centre div wrapper which contains the footer now seems to go
 right to the bottom of the page. If I change the text size +2 then the
 design doesn't break which is great. However if I get rid of styles then
 it does break. What -if any-solution exists?  Thanks
 

At my default font size, the right-hand-side text overflows the
outline: http://cfajohnson.com/testing/cwc.jpg.

   


We know. He did not correct that nor was it included in his original 
question.

Best,
~d

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Re: [css-d] Jigsaw validator

2010-02-15 Thread Rick Pasotto
On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 07:40:00PM +0100, Gabriele Romanato wrote:
 Nope. The order in this case is ignored.

That's what I've always thought. However, in this case putting the
repeat factor before the positions cleared the problem, even though, as
another poster pointed out, direct entry of that stanza was accepted.

Really weird.

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Re: [css-d] Jigsaw validator

2010-02-15 Thread david
Rick Pasotto wrote:
 On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 07:40:00PM +0100, Gabriele Romanato wrote:
 Nope. The order in this case is ignored.
 
 That's what I've always thought. However, in this case putting the
 repeat factor before the positions cleared the problem, even though, as
 another poster pointed out, direct entry of that stanza was accepted.
 
 Really weird.

The bane of CSS design: Glitchy implementation in a browser. ;-)

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Re: [css-d] divs dropping

2010-02-15 Thread ed
Ed wrote:
If I change the text size +2 then the
design doesn't break which is great. However if I get rid of styles then
it does break. What -if any-solution exists?  Thanks


David wrote:
If the style sheet for any page on the Web is deleted or disabled then
the the page is displayed as simple html markup. Or, is it that I just
do not understand your question?


Best,
~d

Ed replied:
Yes if you turn off the css then and just have the simple html as long as
you read it then that is correctly formatted? My question is if there any
way I can make this html better?




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Re: [css-d] divs dropping

2010-02-15 Thread G. Sørtun
e...@copywritecolombia.com wrote:
  Yes if you turn off the css then and just have the simple html as
  long as you read it then that is correctly formatted? My question is
  if there any way I can make this html better?

We usually don't deal with HTML as such here on css-d. We focus on CSS 
styles / CSS styled HTML.
OTOH: we don't mind having a look at your HTML if you want it arranged 
in a certain way in order to be able to style it in a certain way.

First you have to explain what you mean by make this html better.

As it is: without styles it gets presented in a linearized way - pretty 
much the same as looking at the source code but without the HTML tags. 
Nothing you can do about that.
You can however change the order of elements and sections in the HTML 
source code, and try to re-style it so it gets presented in a way you 
find more acceptable both with and without styles. So, tell us exactly 
what you mean, and want, and we can at least _try_ to help - if at all 
possible.

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Re: [css-d] divs dropping

2010-02-15 Thread David Laakso
e...@copywritecolombia.com wrote:
 David wrote:
 If the style sheet for any page on the Web is deleted or disabled then
 the the page is displayed as simple html markup. Or, is it that I just
 do not understand your question?


 Best,
 ~d

 Ed replied:
 Yes if you turn off the css then and just have the simple html as long as
 you read it then that is correctly formatted? My question is if there any
 way I can make this html better?
   




Your question might be better asked on another list as CSS-D deals 
primarily with the practical application of CSS rather than HTML markup. 
However, some of your extremely long  selector names such as this one -- 
#wrapperLogoNavigationinside -- wiil be more efficient if shortend.  And 
while the software (browsers) understand the all uppercase rulesets in 
your CSS file, from a human standpoint all lowercase might be better and 
easier to understand.

Best,
~d




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