Re: [css-d] Fonts, fall-backs & Unicode
Philippe Wittenbergh wrote:
> Yeah, and the user who uses Lynx on Windows 95, I know I know…
No you don't. Those who use Lynx will not be affected by font fall-back
issues. In trying to ridicule my concern for the majority, you seem to fall
back to strawman arguments from the 1990s.
> I described the mechanism at work (as did fantasai and D. Baron).
You described font fall back that _should_ take place according to some
recommendations or drafts, not what happens in web browsers in general.
> Usually you don't even know if the user has the font activated or
> not... :-).
Exactly, with no need for a smiley.
> Ah, the limits of web design.
Or the circumstances where designers need to work.
>> The morale is that fallback fonts are nothing you could count on.
I wonder why you quote my conclusion and its clarifications, when you don't
comment on them at all.
Instead you throw in some CSS code without a word of English to tell what
your point is:
> @font-face {
> font-family: 'my-font';
> src: url(myfont.eot);
> src: url(myfont.woff), url(myfont.ttf);
> }
That's something completely different, with benefits and issues of its own.
It's not about fallback fonts at all, and to the extent that you use
downloadable fonts successfully, font fallback does not come into the
picture at all.
Yucca
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[css-d] anchor color help
I am using SSI for my headers and footers. the background color of the header and footer is the same color as the text in the body of the site. how do i get my anchors in the header and footers to be white and the anchors in the body to be blue? Ian. __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] lost background
TriState Advantage, Kris Jacobson wrote: > Thank you, this worked but I don't understand why. I went back to my > references and they said the overflow property is for when the content is > larger then the settings on the space allows. But I had the settings of the > box at auto. > If I add more content to the box then will it be hidden as this is the area I > will be adding to? > > You have no CSS included in the CSS file for #wrapper, and you opened and closed #wrapper in the wrong order. My guess is that this happened to you because you marched to two different drums within the same layout. You took only some of the corrections the first drummer offered, and mixed those up [ literally ] with the corrections that the second drummer offered. "Too many cooks spoil the broth." Best, ~d -- http://chelseacreekstudio.com/ __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
[css-d] lost background
Thank you, this worked but I don't understand why. I went back to my references
and they said the overflow property is for when the content is larger then the
settings on the space allows. But I had the settings of the box at auto.
If I add more content to the box then will it be hidden as this is the area I
will be adding to?
Thanks to this list the light is beginning to shine but I still have some dark
corners to clear up.
Kris J
> I have lost the white background on the footer and for the life of me can't
> figure out what it is.
> Here are the links
> http://www.tristateadvantage.com/woolynpurses/indexpage3.html
CSS
#container { background-color: #fff; text-align: left; margin: 0 auto;
width: 800px; /*height: auto delete;*/ overflow: hidden/*add*/; }
Markup
:: delete this ::--->
:: and delete this ::--->
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Re: [css-d] incorporating text or link to in css?
On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 12:21 PM, Alex Mitchell wrote: > On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 9:00 AM, Felix Miata wrote: > >> On 2010/07/16 06:52 (GMT-0700) Cynthia Page composed: >> >> > This may be off topic, if so please forgive me. I would like to be able >> to >> > change some text sitewide like you can change text formatting sitewide >> with css. >> >> > I keep coming back to this in my mind because with css you can add a >> link to a >> > background image and of course have that image applied to every page on >> your >> > site using you css file. >> >> > Can you so this with text - the most obvious use would be for your menus >> so you >> > can change it once and then the whole site is updated. I know this can >> be done >> > because someone told me a couple years ago - however I had no need for >> it at the >> > time and didn't pursue it. I would also like to be able to update >> paragraphs of >> > info this way. >> >> > Will you please lead me to the correct resources? >> >> The [WD] list is a good place to ask design questions not specifically >> related to CSS. >> >> Maybe an is what you're thinking of. One example: >> http://fm.no-ip.com/Auth/auth.html >> -- >> "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant >> words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) >> >> Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 >> >> Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ > > > Another way to accomplish this would be to use php pages and includes. > > Example: > > navigation.php > > echo ' > > http://yoursite.com/";>Home > . > > '; > ?> > > > > then on each page you wanted to use your navigation bar, you do something > like this: > > > > Your Site > > > > > > ... > > > > Anywhere you include the php file, it will display your navigation. > The downside is that all of your pages have to be "written in" php. > If you just change the extensions to .php from .html then it should > work fine as long as your hosting supports php. > > Regards, > Alex Mitchell > http://gumware.com/ > Correction: should be: > > >> __ >> css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] >> http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d >> List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ >> List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html >> Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ >> > > __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] incorporating text or link to in css?
On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 9:00 AM, Felix Miata wrote: > On 2010/07/16 06:52 (GMT-0700) Cynthia Page composed: > > > This may be off topic, if so please forgive me. I would like to be able > to > > change some text sitewide like you can change text formatting sitewide > with css. > > > I keep coming back to this in my mind because with css you can add a link > to a > > background image and of course have that image applied to every page on > your > > site using you css file. > > > Can you so this with text - the most obvious use would be for your menus > so you > > can change it once and then the whole site is updated. I know this can be > done > > because someone told me a couple years ago - however I had no need for it > at the > > time and didn't pursue it. I would also like to be able to update > paragraphs of > > info this way. > > > Will you please lead me to the correct resources? > > The [WD] list is a good place to ask design questions not specifically > related to CSS. > > Maybe an is what you're thinking of. One example: > http://fm.no-ip.com/Auth/auth.html > -- > "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant > words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) > > Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 > > Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ Another way to accomplish this would be to use php pages and includes. Example: navigation.php http://yoursite.com/";>Home . '; ?> then on each page you wanted to use your navigation bar, you do something like this: Your Site ... Anywhere you include the php file, it will display your navigation. The downside is that all of your pages have to be "written in" php. If you just change the extensions to .php from .html then it should work fine as long as your hosting supports php. Regards, Alex Mitchell http://gumware.com/ > __ > css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] > http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d > List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ > List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html > Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ > __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] OS Specific CSS?
On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 11:46 AM, David Hucklesby wrote: > I am not saying that a reset is bad-- just that it is usually > unnecessary. I will say it for you then. It is virtually always bad. IMO -- Ed Seedhouse __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] OS Specific CSS?
On 7/16/10 6:27 AM, Tom Livingston wrote: > Do you use a reset sheet? Maybe this could help you? > > On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 4:51 PM, absynthe minded web smithes > wrote: >> Is there a way to target styles to specific OS's? FF for Mac and FF >> for Windows have slight differences in how they handle legends, >> fonts, and other little things I have yet to discover. I've also >> noticed little differences in Webkit browsers. >> > > "Maybe [a reset sheet] could help you?" Or not... I mentor beginning adult Web students. The teacher promotes the use of reset styles. As a result, students end up with hundreds of CSS rules for the simplest of pages, most of which add back the self-same rules taken off by the reset. It also leads them to over-specify everything. I am not saying that a reset is bad-- just that it is usually unnecessary. One of the most popular is Eric Meyer's, yet in his original article he states explicitly that it is not meant to be used "as is." It was certainly very useful for me, as it led me to investigate and understand exactly what styles are added by browsers. FWIW - I find that all browsers that I use for testing are consistent in styling most elements, that the sizes and spacing generally conform to practices long established in print media, and are generally what I want. This leads to style sheets that are quite manageable. Cordially, David -- __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] remove white space on td with image inside without using display:block; ?
2010/7/16 Philippe Wittenbergh :
>
> On Jul 16, 2010, at 12:10 AM, MEM wrote:
>
>>> td > img {vertical-align: bottom; } /* or top */
>>> ?
>>
>> Thank you. That worked on the browser preview but not on hotmail and
>> gmail clients. :(
>
> Have you checked what the computed value is for the offending image ?
>
> Firebug or the Web Inspector in Chrome/Safari are very helpful tools for
> that. Those will also tell you what style(s) are applied to the image.
>
Thank you both. Actually, I was relating the Firebug to my own
development process, that I didn't considered using it for view other
pages. :s
Of course it should give me some nice information to work with.
Adding thin lines and strong colors can help debugging and I really
need to remember that as well when I'm stuck like this.
Anyway, and believe it or not, a css solution was the best option and
the one that display consistently cross several mail clients, on web
or desktops. :s
I should send it for investigation perhaps. :s
I'm glad it worked, but I'm not convinced, and that white space (if it
is a white space) needs to be deal with. I will take your suggestions
on a next html mail adventure.
Thank you again,
Márcio
ps- David L., I've not forget the list that I have to understand and follow.
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Re: [css-d] incorporating text or link to in css?
On 2010/07/16 06:52 (GMT-0700) Cynthia Page composed: > This may be off topic, if so please forgive me. I would like to be able to > change some text sitewide like you can change text formatting sitewide with > css. > I keep coming back to this in my mind because with css you can add a link to > a > background image and of course have that image applied to every page on your > site using you css file. > Can you so this with text - the most obvious use would be for your menus so > you > can change it once and then the whole site is updated. I know this can be > done > because someone told me a couple years ago - however I had no need for it at > the > time and didn't pursue it. I would also like to be able to update paragraphs > of > info this way. > Will you please lead me to the correct resources? The [WD] list is a good place to ask design questions not specifically related to CSS. Maybe an is what you're thinking of. One example: http://fm.no-ip.com/Auth/auth.html -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] OS Specific CSS?
Ar 16/07/10 03:06, ysgrifennodd Philippe Wittenbergh : > > That would be me too… > > I've yet to discover differences on how Gecko (or Webkit) handle things > differently depending on platform (except, eventually, with experimental > features; but those are - hmm, experimental ? - and prone to all kind of > breakage anyway). > > Do you have specific issues that you need help with ? > > Philippe > --- > Philippe Wittenbergh > http://l-c-n.com/ > > > I've occasionally noticed differences in form rendering between FF on Linux (Ubuntu) and FF on Windows (XP). I don't have an example to hand, though, unfortunately. Cheers Peter -- http://www.peredur.net __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
[css-d] incorporating text or link to in css?
This may be off topic, if so please forgive me. I would like to be able to change some text sitewide like you can change text formatting sitewide with css. I keep coming back to this in my mind because with css you can add a link to a background image and of course have that image applied to every page on your site using you css file. Can you so this with text - the most obvious use would be for your menus so you can change it once and then the whole site is updated. I know this can be done because someone told me a couple years ago - however I had no need for it at the time and didn't pursue it. I would also like to be able to update paragraphs of info this way. Will you please lead me to the correct resources? Thanks, Cynthia __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] OS Specific CSS?
In this case, a reset sheet is not an option. I'm inserting new, standards based code into a legacy, (deeply nested) table-based layout. It would play havoc with the pages on which I'm working. But ... I could try resetting the specific elements, and see what effect that has. Thanks Tom and Stuart. -- Marc Luzietti absynthe minded web smithes http://www.absynthe.us/ 954.496.0162 On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 9:27 AM, Tom Livingston wrote: > Do you use a reset sheet? Maybe this could help you? > > On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 4:51 PM, absynthe minded web smithes > wrote: >> Is there a way to target styles to specific OS's? FF for Mac and FF >> for Windows have slight differences in how they handle legends, fonts, >> and other little things I have yet to discover. I've also noticed >> little differences in Webkit browsers. >> > > > -- > > Tom Livingston | Senior Interactive Developer | Media Logic | > ph: 518.456.3015x231 | fx: 518.456.4279 | mlinc.com > __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] OS Specific CSS?
Do you use a reset sheet? Maybe this could help you? On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 4:51 PM, absynthe minded web smithes wrote: > Is there a way to target styles to specific OS's? FF for Mac and FF > for Windows have slight differences in how they handle legends, fonts, > and other little things I have yet to discover. I've also noticed > little differences in Webkit browsers. > -- Tom Livingston | Senior Interactive Developer | Media Logic | ph: 518.456.3015x231 | fx: 518.456.4279 | mlinc.com __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] CLearing woes
Thanks David. THat did the trick. I figured I'd be sending those 2
browsers their own thing, but was hoping not to...
> *:first-child + html #fullwidth1Wrap {
> margin-top : 10px;
> } /* 4 IE/7 */
>
> * html #fullwidth1Wrap {
> margin-top : 10px;
> height : 110px;
> }/* 4 IE/6 */
>
> Best,
> ~d
>
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