[css-d] Stretch over a cell

2010-09-20 Thread Michal Čizmazia
Hi, which browsers render my test case correctly?
http://cim.szm.com/stretch-over-cell.html

Thank you.
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Re: [css-d] Stretch over a cell

2010-09-20 Thread David Laakso

 On 9/20/10 5:31 AM, Michal Čizmazia wrote:

Hi, which browsers render my test case correctly?
http://cim.szm.com/stretch-over-cell.html

Thank you.
Michal Cizmazia






On Mac OS X 10.4.11

Pass
Opera/10.62

Fail
Camino/2.0.3
Safari/4.1.2
WebKit nightly trunk 63031 [crashes browser]
SeaMonkey/2.0.7
Firefox/3.6.10

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Re: [css-d] Stretch over a cell

2010-09-20 Thread Michal Čizmazia
Wow, thank you David,
is the specification clear in this case? Is there a way how can I
stretch the nested span over a table cell in all browsers?

The test case:
 - http://jsfiddle.net/Vwg7T/
 - http://cim.szm.com/stretch-over-cell.html

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Re: [css-d] Stretch over a cell

2010-09-20 Thread David Laakso

 On 9/20/10 6:46 AM, Michal Čizmazia wrote:

Wow, thank you David,
is the specification clear in this case? Is there a way how can I
stretch the nested span over a table cell in all browsers?

The test case:
  - http://jsfiddle.net/Vwg7T/
  - http://cim.szm.com/stretch-over-cell.html

Michal Cizmazia






We will both need to rely on someone else for the answer to your question...
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Re: [css-d] Stretch over a cell

2010-09-20 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh

On Sep 20, 2010, at 7:46 PM, Michal Čizmazia wrote:

 is the specification clear in this case? Is there a way how can I
 stretch the nested span over a table cell in all browsers?
 
 The test case:
 - http://jsfiddle.net/Vwg7T/
 - http://cim.szm.com/stretch-over-cell.html

quote from the spec:
 The effect of 'position:relative' on table-row-group, table-header-group, 
 table-footer-group, table-row, table-column-group, table-column, table-cell, 
 and table-caption elements is undefined.

http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/visuren.html#propdef-position

depending on what you really want to do, this may work:
http://dev.l-c-n.com/_temp/tx-cssd20100920.html

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Re: [css-d] Stretch over a cell

2010-09-20 Thread Michal Čizmazia
Thanks Philippe,
your test case works for me.

Your quote from the specification seemed to be related to the
relatively positioned element itself. I use relative positioning just
to create a containing block:

If the element has 'position: absolute', the containing block is
established by the nearest ancestor with a 'position' of 'absolute',
'relative' or 'fixed' ...

http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS2/visudet.html#containing-block-details

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Re: [css-d] Stretch over a cell

2010-09-20 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh

On Sep 20, 2010, at 9:24 PM, Michal Čizmazia wrote:

 Your quote from the specification seemed to be related to the
 relatively positioned element itself. I use relative positioning just
 to create a containing block:

well you apply position relative to the table-cell. What happens in that case 
is undefined. That is what the part of the spec I quoted says.

In Gecko  WebKit, position: relative has no effect on a table cell; thus your 
absolute positioned span takes the width of the viewport (nearest containing 
block in your case).

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Re: [css-d] Multiple select dropdown on a single line

2010-09-20 Thread Philip Taylor (Webmaster, Ret'd)

OK, but what you've drawn (posted) is not what you are trying
to achieve, but what you can already achieve but which does not
match your needs.  What I (and perhaps others) need to see is
what you are trying to achieve visually; we know from your
prose description the intended effect, but not how you
envisage it looking to the intending user.

Philip Taylor

Tod wrote:

On 9/15/2010 3:44 PM, Philip Taylor (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote:

Tod, could you draw a picture of what you are attempting to achieve ?
Philip Taylor




Attached are two files, single.gif and multi.gif.

The single dropdown takes up only one line until you click the selector
to make it drop down but allows you to select only a *single* item.

The multi dropdown offers the ability to select multiple items but at
the expense of taking up the amount of real estate specified by the
size=x attribute. A size of 1 disables the dropdown.

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Re: [css-d] Multiple select dropdown on a single line

2010-09-20 Thread Mark Richards
Tod,
It seems that when you make the height of the select too small there isn't
room for the scrollbar.  This simple hack might give you some ideas:

select { height: 1.5em; }
select:focus { height: 3em; }

You can also use Javascript to achieve a similar effect.

I tried playing around with this to achieve the closest thing I could to a
one-line, drop-down, multi-select box but there were lots of problems,
most importantly that it doesn't look like a select when the scrollbar is
not visible.

Mark

On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 15:16, Philip Taylor (Webmaster, Ret'd) 
p.tay...@rhul.ac.uk wrote:

 OK, but what you've drawn (posted) is not what you are trying
 to achieve, but what you can already achieve but which does not
 match your needs.  What I (and perhaps others) need to see is
 what you are trying to achieve visually; we know from your
 prose description the intended effect, but not how you
 envisage it looking to the intending user.

 Philip Taylor
 
 Tod wrote:

  On 9/15/2010 3:44 PM, Philip Taylor (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote:

 Tod, could you draw a picture of what you are attempting to achieve ?
 Philip Taylor
 


  Attached are two files, single.gif and multi.gif.

 The single dropdown takes up only one line until you click the selector
 to make it drop down but allows you to select only a *single* item.

 The multi dropdown offers the ability to select multiple items but at
 the expense of taking up the amount of real estate specified by the
 size=x attribute. A size of 1 disables the dropdown.

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[css-d] 3-column layouts, current state of play

2010-09-20 Thread Richard Grevers
It's a while since I did a 3 column layout, and while looking around a
couple of sites (Alex Robinson's onetruelayout and Matthew James
Taylor's) I realised that most of this information is 4-5 years old.
Which of the gotchas are still valid in latest versions? (I recall not
using onetruelayout originally because of scrollbar issues in Opera)

My requirements are:
- 3 columns, percentage width based) (one is purely decorative and
will contain only a background image)
- wrapper will be fluid with maximum and minimum widths set
- any order (in fact there will be four templates using all 4 possible
order permutations)
- image backgrounds on some columns (difficult with
- full height columns
- sticky footer

Are there any more up-to-date layout articles?
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Re: [css-d] Making GridView's Header Fixed while Scrolling vertically or horizantally

2010-09-20 Thread Richard Grevers
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 9:32 PM, Dilip Nagle nagle...@gmail.com wrote:
 *The Problem:*

 At present, I use following css to achieve above; This CSS is
 then associated with  gridview.header of the gridview

 HeaderStyle CssClass=gvFixedHeader_Aqua /

 .gvFixedHeader_Aqua{position:relative;

 top:expression(this.parentNode.parentNode.parentNode.parentNode.scrollTop-1)
 ;

 background-color: Aqua;

 color:Black;

 font-family:Arial;

 font-size: X-Small;

 font-weight: lighter;

 border : none;

 text-align:center;
 height: 20px;}


 *The Help Needed:*

 The *expression* is not css2 compliant. While, it still works in IE6 to 8,
 what is the best alternative?

Use the expression, but in an external stylesheet targeted to the
versions of IE which need it, called from a conditional comment.
Everything the validator and non-IE browsers will see can be valid.


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Re: [css-d] 3-column layouts, current state of play

2010-09-20 Thread Nate Turnage
I would say that Mathew James Taylor's 3-col holy grail layout is the way to 
go. He updated them last year I believe, so they're not all that old. On a site 
I am working on I am using a modified version of his 3col theory in a 
responisive layout with percentage-based widths. Works like a charm.





~Nate


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On Sep 20, 2010 4:39 PM, Richard Grevers lt;richard.grev...@gmail.comgt; 
wrote: 

It's a while since I did a 3 column layout, and while looking around a

couple of sites (Alex Robinson's onetruelayout and Matthew James

Taylor's) I realised that most of this information is 4-5 years old.

Which of the gotchas are still valid in latest versions? (I recall not

using onetruelayout originally because of scrollbar issues in Opera)



My requirements are:

- 3 columns, percentage width based) (one is purely decorative and

will contain only a background image)

- wrapper will be fluid with maximum and minimum widths set

- any order (in fact there will be four templates using all 4 possible

order permutations)

- image backgrounds on some columns (difficult with

- full height columns

- sticky footer



Are there any more up-to-date layout articles?

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Dramatic Design www.dramatic.co.nz

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[css-d] property for aligning vertical text in a div

2010-09-20 Thread Lisa Frost
Hi,
I have no idea what property i need to accomplish the following. If anyone
can point me in the right direction i can then go and look it up.

I have  footer div which has a background image.
Question 1: To get the background image to display i needed to add width and
height values. Is that correct practice? I obviously presumed wrong that it
would just display automatically!

Question 2: I have my footer text, in a p. I want the text to be at the
bottom of the div not at the top as it is now.
Is there a property to accomplish this?

The dev page is here: http://www.koolfish.com/devtest/

The css is here: http://www.koolfish.com/devtest/css/mainstyles.css

Any pointers appreciated.

Lisa
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Re: [css-d] property for aligning vertical text in a div

2010-09-20 Thread Venditelli, Daniel - Web Development Administrator
You can easily add a margin on the p tag within the footer to push the
text down the page to where you need it to be. 

The height and width you added are NOT for your background image but
rather for the DIV you are assigning it to. Otherwise that div will only
grow as large as your content, the copyright notice.

Regards,
Daniel

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Subject: [css-d] property for aligning vertical text in a div

Hi,
I have no idea what property i need to accomplish the following. If
anyone can point me in the right direction i can then go and look it up.

I have  footer div which has a background image.
Question 1: To get the background image to display i needed to add width
and height values. Is that correct practice? I obviously presumed wrong
that it would just display automatically!

Question 2: I have my footer text, in a p. I want the text to be at
the bottom of the div not at the top as it is now.
Is there a property to accomplish this?

The dev page is here: http://www.koolfish.com/devtest/

The css is here: http://www.koolfish.com/devtest/css/mainstyles.css

Any pointers appreciated.

Lisa
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Re: [css-d] property for aligning vertical text in a div

2010-09-20 Thread Lisa Frost
 You can easily add a margin on the p tag within the footer to push the
 text down the page to where you need it to be.


Never thought of that. Thanks, that's an easy solution.
But going back to my original question. Is there an actual property to
accomplish it, like you can have vertical-align in table cells?

Lisa
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Re: [css-d] property for aligning vertical text in a div

2010-09-20 Thread Rick Gordon
Classing the div as display:table-cell would allow the vertical-align to 
operate -- and does not necessarily require that it be enclosed in table-rows 
or a table.

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On 9/21/10 at 7:27 AM +0700, Lisa Frost wrote in a message entitled
Re: [css-d] property for aligning vertical text in a div:

  You can easily add a margin on the p tag within the footer to push the
 text down the page to where you need it to be.


Never thought of that. Thanks, that's an easy solution.
But going back to my original question. Is there an actual property to
accomplish it, like you can have vertical-align in table cells?

Lisa

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