Re: [css-d] CSS redesign: criticisms, comments and similar are welcome

2012-02-09 Thread Florian Hamberger
Hi,
you've done a great job. It works also well with IE6 and above (I tested it 
with IE tester).

Perhaps you could continue the blogspot as the English version and link to it 
from your Italian website?

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 Hi folks,
 I've recently launched a massive redesign of my Blogspot blog. Now
 it's much more CSS3 compliant than before.
 
 http://onwebdev.blogspot.com/
 
 Now I've also have an Italian official website that's going very well.
 Honestly, do you think that I should create an /en section there or
 stick to Blogspot (which is also going very well)?
 
 http://gabrieleromanato.com
 
 Any suggestion to improve the layout? Any CSS3 trick that I should try?
 
 Let me know.
 
 ps. Oh yes, IE: honestly I work on a Mac and I test on IE only when
 clients ask me to do so
 
 Bye
 
 Gabriele
 
 
 http://www.css-zibaldone.com
 http://gabrieleromanato.com
 http://www.css-zibaldone.com/test/  (English)
 http://www.css-zibaldone.com/articles/  (English)
 http://onwebdev.blogspot.com/  (English)
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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[css-d] Rounded corners do not apply to child elements

2012-02-09 Thread Markus Ernst

Hello!

I encountered that rounded corners do not seem to apply to child elements:

.roundCorners {
  width:500px;
  height:200px;
  margin:1em auto;
  background:yellow;
  -moz-border-radius:15px;
  -webkit-border-radius:15px;
  border-radius:15px;
}
.roundCorners div {
  width:200px;
  height:200px;
  float:right;
  background:red;
}

div class=roundCorners
  divHello/div
/div

In this example, the right corners of the red child element are not 
rounded in recent versions of Firefox, Opera, Chrome, and IE9.


Is this the expected behavior? I did not find anything on the behavior 
of child elements in the spec:

http://www.w3.org/TR/2011/CR-css3-background-20110215/#the-border-radius

I can't imagine that all current implementations are buggy, but from an 
author's POV this behavior does not seem useful to me. If I apply 
rounded corners to a container element, I would not want to re-apply 
them to every child that might be placed in a corner. Is there a decent 
solution to this? Or do you think I should raise this in the www-style list?


Thanks for your comments!
Markus
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Re: [css-d] Rounded corners do not apply to child elements

2012-02-09 Thread Jukka K. Korpela

2012-02-09 11:54, Markus Ernst wrote:


I encountered that rounded corners do not seem to apply to child elements:


Right.


Is this the expected behavior? I did not find anything on the behavior
of child elements in the spec:
http://www.w3.org/TR/2011/CR-css3-background-20110215/#the-border-radius


It is the expected behavior. Inherited: no means that setting 
border-radius on an element affects that element's border only. You 
would need to set it explicitly on any element for which it is desired.


Yucca
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Re: [css-d] Rounded corners do not apply to child elements

2012-02-09 Thread Markus Ernst

Am 09.02.2012 11:05 schrieb Jukka K. Korpela:

2012-02-09 11:54, Markus Ernst wrote:


I encountered that rounded corners do not seem to apply to child
elements:


Right.


Is this the expected behavior? I did not find anything on the behavior
of child elements in the spec:
http://www.w3.org/TR/2011/CR-css3-background-20110215/#the-border-radius


It is the expected behavior. Inherited: no means that setting
border-radius on an element affects that element's border only. You
would need to set it explicitly on any element for which it is desired.


Thanks a lot for your quick answer. There seems to be a special case of 
inheritation here to me. If a property is inherited, it would mean that 
child elements get the same property, which is not desired in the case 
of rounded corners (as any border). In my example, the container element 
makes a box, which contains the inner element:


div class=roundCorners
  divHello/div
/div

Now, if there is a border applied to the container element, the inner 
element is not expected to inherit the border, but it is expected to be 
placed inside the border, rather than covering it.


In the case of rounded corners, I would accordingly expect the inner 
element to be rounded at the edges of the outer element, rather than 
covering the rounded corners (and even covering a possible border of the 
container element at the corners).


Do you think it would make sense to raise this in www-style?
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Re: [css-d] Rounded corners do not apply to child elements

2012-02-09 Thread Markus Ernst

Am 09.02.2012 11:38 schrieb Desi Matlock:

Do you think it would make sense to raise this in www-style?


Definitely not, what if you want another div inside that is only a few
pixels smaller, with another set of similar rounded corners? Would you
want to force that div to occur within a forced padding caused by a
rounded corner on an outside div?


I don't understand this - rounded corners do not seem to cause a 
padding, they just seem to affect the rendering of background and image 
contents, as far as I encountered it until now.

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Re: [css-d] Rounded corners do not apply to child elements

2012-02-09 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh

On Feb 9, 2012, at 6:54 PM, Markus Ernst wrote:

 I encountered that rounded corners do not seem to apply to child elements:
 
 […]
 In this example, the right corners of the red child element are not rounded 
 in recent versions of Firefox, Opera, Chrome, and IE9.
 
 Is this the expected behavior? I did not find anything on the behavior of 
 child elements in the spec:
 http://www.w3.org/TR/2011/CR-css3-background-20110215/#the-border-radius

Yucca already gave you the core of the answer.
In addition: border-radius does not clip child elements.
If you want clipping to happen, try
.roundCorners { overflow: hidden; }
or force the child box to inherit the border-radius

 Now, if there is a border applied to the container element, the inner element 
 is not expected to inherit the border, but it is expected to be placed inside 
 the border, rather than covering it.

 In the case of rounded corners, I would accordingly expect the inner element 
 to be rounded at the edges of the outer element, rather than covering the 
 rounded corners (and even covering a possible border of the container element 
 at the corners).

But the child is not offset by corner (border-radius is a bit a misnomer, it 
should actually be 'corner-radius'). With 'border', the child element is moved 
(it cannot cover the border unless forced to do so).

Philippe
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Re: [css-d] CSS redesign: criticisms, comments and similar are welcome

2012-02-09 Thread Brian M. Curran
I just looked at it from an aesthetics standpoint, and I really like it. I
would definitely put the social buttons in their natural colors though.
 

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Subject: [css-d] CSS redesign: criticisms, comments and similar are welcome

Hi folks,
I've recently launched a massive redesign of my Blogspot blog. Now it's much
more CSS3 compliant than before.

http://onwebdev.blogspot.com/

Now I've also have an Italian official website that's going very well.  
Honestly, do you think that I should create an /en section there or stick to
Blogspot (which is also going very well)?

http://gabrieleromanato.com

Any suggestion to improve the layout? Any CSS3 trick that I should try?

Let me know.

ps. Oh yes, IE: honestly I work on a Mac and I test on IE only when clients
ask me to do so

Bye

Gabriele


http://www.css-zibaldone.com
http://gabrieleromanato.com
http://www.css-zibaldone.com/test/  (English)
http://www.css-zibaldone.com/articles/  (English)
http://onwebdev.blogspot.com/  (English)









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Re: [css-d] CSS redesign: criticisms, comments and similar are welcome

2012-02-09 Thread Felix Miata

On 2012/02/09 06:57 (GMT+0100) Gabriele Romanato composed:


I've recently launched a massive redesign of my Blogspot blog. Now
it's much more CSS3 compliant than before.



http://onwebdev.blogspot.com/


I'm rather unimpressed by 6-7 word long paragraph lines: 
http://fm.no-ip.com/SS/onwebdev01.jpg



Now I've also have an Italian official website that's going very well.
Honestly, do you think that I should create an /en section there or
stick to Blogspot (which is also going very well)?



http://gabrieleromanato.com


If the English speaking world is part of your desired audience, of course!


Any suggestion to improve the layout? Any CSS3 trick that I should try?


Gray text is uncool, as is paragraph text 56.25% of actual default size. 
Needs some work to prevent text overflow cutoff/hide in those small spaces 
(Twee; Ob). Other than that, I like monochromatic.

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Re: [css-d] CSS redesign: criticisms, comments and similar are welcome

2012-02-09 Thread David Laakso
On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 12:57 AM, Gabriele Romanato
gabriele.roman...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi folks,
I've recently launched a massive redesign of my Blogspot blog. Now it's much
more CSS3 compliant than before.

http://onwebdev.blogspot.com/

Gabriele

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Yeah. Guess its alright -- providing that the user has not altered any
of her out-of-the-box browser preferences; and, it is probably
impossible to correct the zillions of markup errors on some of those
pages considering the blogging software you are using. Bells and
whistles come and go. But every castle -- even one that is built in
the air --needs a rock-solid foundation...

Best,
Bono 4 U2

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Re: [css-d] CSS redesign: criticisms, comments and similar are welcome

2012-02-09 Thread Colin (Sandy) Pittendrigh
I've been a fan of Romanato site for a long time.
Imagination ideas and ambition trump staid perfection any day.

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