Re: [css-d] Looks & acts like IE8-maxwidth-floats-image issue but don't see how it can be...

2012-09-07 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh

Le 8 sept. 2012 à 03:32, "Venditelli, Daniel - Web Development Administrator" 
 a écrit :

> What I cannot understand is WHY the page viewed on the public server
> needs the fix while the page viewed on the internal server works WITH OR
> WITHOUT it.

According to the collective wisdom glanced from a quick $search-engine, IE 8 
(and up ?) is always in compat mode for pages loaded from an intranet server.
e.g. 
http://blogs.msdn.com/b/ie/archive/2008/08/27/introducing-compatibility-view.aspx

What does the developer toolbar tells you ?

Philippe
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[css-d] Looks & acts like IE8-maxwidth-floats-image issue but don't see how it can be...

2012-09-07 Thread Venditelli, Daniel - Web Development Administrator
If your response is going to be that I need to validate the html/CSS
before you can consider my question, then please STOP NOW and do NOT
reply; no hard feelings - I understand. 
 
While I am aware that the html and CSS will not validate (around 70
errors); I'm in a corner here. Our CMS does not produce valid code and a
large portion of the code on the page in question is generated within
the system's black box. While I agree with you in theory and I would
certainly prefer otherwise, it cannot be changed at this time.
 
- - - 
 
If you're still reading, perhaps you will find this as peculiar as I do.
While I have a solution, it still doesn't give me a why (and it doesn't
make sense) and that bothers me quite a bit.
 
I have an issue with the following page; At the bottom is an "upcoming
events" section that should display thumbnails to the right of the event
descriptions. Layout is a mix of stubernella and FnE approaches (among
other things).
 - http://yumaaz.gov/news_24293.htm
 
Images DO show in Safari, the iOS browser, Firefox, Chrome and IE 7. 
 
They do NOT show in Internet Explorer 8 when viewed on the PUBLIC facing
2003 Windows Server R2 Standard server (the link above) but DO show when
I view the same code, CSS files and graphics on our INTERNAL test
server. (also 2003 R2 Standard)
 
I am aware of the max-width issue with IE 8
(http://www.456bereastreet.com/archive/201202/using_max-width_on_images_
can_make_them_disappear_in_ie8/)
 
In fact "max-width:auto" does appear to correct the problem for the
public facing page. So does IE 8's compatibility mode.
 
What I cannot understand is WHY the page viewed on the public server
needs the fix while the page viewed on the internal server works WITH OR
WITHOUT it.
 
I've checked security settings on IE 8, reset them entirely and even set
them as low as possible.
I've looked at all of the individual files in question - they are on
both servers (same versions).
It's not just my machine and version of IE8 - I've had independent
confirmation of graphics not displaying from several others.
 
Has anyone seen something like this? Why does the CSS work when viewed
on one web server but not the other. It's the same client machine, same
login and permissions, same browser, same HTML, same CSS, same files,
same graphics and even the same server version - just physically
different locations and of course a firewall between me and the public
server.
 
Is it even possible for a firewall or server setting to change/corrupt
but not entirely block how CSS is interpreted on a client machine?
 
If you see something I'm missing, please share.
 
Thank you,
Daniel
 
 
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Re: [css-d] Font-size unit Mobile and tablet Android

2012-09-07 Thread marie-ange.demeulemeester

Philip and Philippe,
Thanks!

Marie-Ange

-Original Message-
From: Philip TAYLOR [mailto:p.tay...@rhul.ac.uk] 
Sent: Friday, September 07, 2012 9:27 AM
To: DEMEULEMEESTER Marie-Ange
Cc: marie.demeulemees...@gmail.com; css-d@lists.css-discuss.org
Subject: Re: [css-d] Font-size unit Mobile and tablet Android



marie-ange.demeulemees...@bnpparibasfortis.com wrote:

> I work in HTML5, the doctype is : 

> Marie-Ange

OK, I realised after sending the message that as CSS is
language-agnostic, the DOCTYPE is not relevant.  None
the less, neither scale-independent pixels nor density-
independent pixels appear in any W3C specification, so
using them in a general-purpose CSS style sheet is
doomed to failure.  As Phillippe has already suggested,
such units appear to be intended for usage in the user
interface, not in HTML documents per se.

Philip Taylor


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Re: [css-d] Font-size unit Mobile and tablet Android

2012-09-07 Thread Philip TAYLOR



marie-ange.demeulemees...@bnpparibasfortis.com wrote:


I work in HTML5, the doctype is : 



Marie-Ange  


OK, I realised after sending the message that as CSS is
language-agnostic, the DOCTYPE is not relevant.  None
the less, neither scale-independent pixels nor density-
independent pixels appear in any W3C specification, so
using them in a general-purpose CSS style sheet is
doomed to failure.  As Phillippe has already suggested,
such units appear to be intended for usage in the user
interface, not in HTML documents per se.

Philip Taylor
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Re: [css-d] Font-size unit Mobile and tablet Android

2012-09-07 Thread marie-ange.demeulemeester


I work in HTML5, the doctype is :
  


Marie-Ange  


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[mailto:css-d-boun...@lists.css-discuss.org] On Behalf Of Philip TAYLOR
Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2012 11:24 PM
To: Marie-Ange Demeulemeester
Cc: CSS Discuss
Subject: Re: [css-d] Font-size unit Mobile and tablet Android



Marie-Ange Demeulemeester wrote:

> According this spec
> http://developer.android.com/design/style/typography.html , I've defined my
> font-size in sp (scale-independent pixels):
> body{font-family:Roboto,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;
> font-size:14sp;
> }
> p.size20 {font-size:20sp; font-size:larger}
>
> Or in dp (Density-independent Pixels):
> body{font-family:Roboto,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;
> font-size:14dp;
> }
> p.size20 {font-size:20dp; }

To what DTD or Schema are you coding your pages, Marie-Ange ?
As far as I can tell, neither scale-independent pixels nor
density-independent pixels occur in any W3C specification
at all.

Philip Taylor
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