Re: [css-d] mysterious letter appearing only in IE6

2008-05-15 Thread Joel D Canfield
> In the top right there is a menu and in IE6, and ONLY in IE6, 
> the letter 
> "e" appears like a fourth link in the menu.
> 
> http://raidesign.ca/test/test.html

in my copy of IE6 (on WinXP) there's nothing at all above the large
image, which is jammed right against the top of the window.

my advanced straw-grasping abilities and ignorance of Canadian
addressing makes me want to ask if this is really the address behind the
image at the bottom of the page:

406 Des Pins )., Espace 71, Montreal QC

the right paren period comma Espace seems, well, even odder than I
remember Canada being.

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Re: [css-d] Missing width and height for : why IE doesn't showtheimage when I'm using CSS?

2007-10-26 Thread Joel D Canfield
> t show the images when height="" and width=""

If the height and width are explicitly set to zero, well, they'll be
zero.

If they're *left out entirely*, that's not great, but at least it
doesn't display them with a width and height of zero.

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Re: [css-d] How can I prevent this menu from wrapping?

2007-10-18 Thread Joel D Canfield
> I can't get anything to work without either
> getting a scrollbar or having the menu be the wrong width. 

What's the 'Other Option' you're looking for? If the nav is wider than
the window, either it wraps or you get a scrollbar, unless you're
looking for a way to shrink the nav on the fly?

I think I'm confused. Maybe.

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Re: [css-d] coloring ordered list item numbers

2007-09-29 Thread Joel D Canfield
> Is there a "CSS way" of handling it without extraneous markup:
> 
> foo

Nope. (Okay, not that I know of.) Different browser/speed of the wind/OS
combinations seem to handle list bullets very differently.

Which makes this 'necessary markup' rather than 'extraneous markup',
yes? ;)

Maybe it's just me, but I've never thought of this before, yet I've seen
it asked here twice in the past week. New fad?

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Re: [css-d] Easy way to replace table layout with css-layout?

2007-09-17 Thread Joel D Canfield
> I'm trying to achieve someting like this (the rows and 
> columns that is):
> http://www.wiberger.se/templates/vred.htm

That's tabular data, isn't it? Either it belongs in columns and rows,
and you should use a table, or it doesn't belong in columns and rows,
and just floating items left until the page width is filled would be an
acceptable visual representation, yes?

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Re: [css-d] Beginner: fixing text to bottom of a div

2007-08-23 Thread Joel D Canfield
> > #heading {
> > position: relative;
> > }
> > 
> > #heading h1 {
> > bottom: 0;
> > position: absolute;
> > }
> > 
> > Works for me.
> 
> Thanks, for me, too. Now I gotta read why ;)

from http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=AbsoluteLayouts

"The CSS2 specification tells us that an absolute positioned element is
"assigned a position with respect to a containing block". This is not
particularly clear - what it actually means is that the element is
positioned with respect to the "nearest" containing block that is itself
positioned using either position: absolute or position: relative."

Helped me enormously to be directed to this bit of deduction when I was
doing something similar (or attempting it, anyway.)

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Re: [css-d] simple css question

2007-08-20 Thread Joel D Canfield
> Does 50% x 2 not
> equal 100% in IE 7?

Quite often, it doesn't, since IE has emotional issues with padding due
to some childhood trauma. See
http://www.positioniseverything.net/explorer/floatIndent.html or this
list's archives (where would those be, I wonder?) for more details.

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Re: [css-d] 5 column 5 row table

2007-08-20 Thread Joel D Canfield
> I' m trying to 
> recreate a five column, 5 row table using CSS

I'll leave the other semantic issues to more experienced heads, but are
you certain your data isn't really tabular, making a table the correct
tool?

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Re: [css-d] Ways to create css pages

2007-08-02 Thread Joel D Canfield
> That said, whether you maintain libraries and/or snippets of css for 
> reuse from project to project or like to roll your sleeves up afresh 
> each time confronted with a blank slate is very much on topic, so 
> have at it!

I've developed the habit of reusing the most recent client's CSS for the
next task, and it's led me astray, methinks. Until I realized what I was
doing (forced by clients who actually had *opinions*) my sites took on
an overwhelming 'sameness' that, when brought to my attention, was
embarrassing.

On the other hand, I do have bits not quite modularized that I love to
reuse. These are going to get catalogued, genericized enough to *be*
modules, and plugged and played. At the very least, reuse simplifies my
thought processes, and bug fixes when they finally come to light.

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Re: [css-d] Un-wanted space around images

2007-07-19 Thread Joel D Canfield
> I want six thumbnails of the same size lined up horizontally to be  
> touching each other. They do until I create a link out of each of  
> them.

you may only be styling the ; if they're links, you'll need to
style the  as well (which would explain why it happens when you make
them links)

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Re: [css-d] Companion column method

2007-07-09 Thread Joel D Canfield
> http://www.satzansatz.de/cssd/companions.html
> 
> introduces a technique for equal heights aspect of columns.

I'll have to come back and give it a thorough read rather than just
scanning, but I have to say, this graphic

http://www.satzansatz.de/cssd/companions/co-pedestal.png

is a spectacular example of informational illustration. Without it, the
article might have become an incomprehensible blur to me, with my
rudimentary understanding of CSS. The illustration makes the entire
concept obvious and now I'm burning to try it. Thanks ever so much.

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Re: [css-d] alignment using CSS

2007-07-06 Thread Joel D Canfield
> I have a list of hours
> 
> Monday - Friday9:00 AM - 9:00 PM  
> Saturday  9:00 AM - 7:00 PM   
> SundayClosed

the fact that you don't explicitly include the headings 'Days' and
'Hours' doesn't stop it being a table. it's tabular data; I'd consider
using pure CSS to be the krufty way, and tables a heroic stab and
semantic perfection.

or some such nonsense :)

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Re: [css-d] Best way for text when enlarged

2007-06-21 Thread Joel D Canfield
> complete user control over text size



> Example: I have a fixed width design

mutually exclusive parameters. if the width is fixed, at some point I
can enlarge the text enough to break it.

it's about balance - *how much* can they enlarge it before it breaks? is
it really 'broken' or just not the pixel perfect layout you wanted?

I struggle not to use fixed width layouts, but I'm going to have to get
much more comfortable with CSS and with my design skills before that
becomes a reality.

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Re: [css-d] Ideas for handling text with CSS

2007-06-20 Thread Joel D Canfield
> > > include 3 pieces of information, like name, phone, and email



> Is a table with just one column really a table?

nope, it's a list. now, a table with *three* columns, that's different .
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Re: [css-d] Ideas for handling text with CSS

2007-06-20 Thread Joel D Canfield
> I was wondering if anyone has a link or information as how to 
> best handle
> text with CSS.  By text I mean a line of text that may 
> include 3 pieces of
> information, like name, phone, and email address.
> 
> In the past, I always used tables for this, but want to 
> handle this with
> the use of CSS if possible.

my first question (as usual) is, are you absolutely sure tables aren't
semantically correct? if you're using this as tabular data, tables are
not only okay, they're the best choice.

otherwise, a bit more explanation about what you mean by 'handling' the
text would help. I usually just wear a pair of white kid gloves, but
that might not help you ;)

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Re: [css-d] tabbed nav: head chopped off in IE

2007-06-15 Thread Joel D Canfield
I've sorted out the FF issue; now it's just IE. I can't find any
reference to the right bug to fix :(

 http://spinhead.info/ah/4.1/
 
The tabbed navigation floats up and the top
border of each tab is chopped off.
 
Any thoughts? Thanks.

joel

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[css-d] tabbed nav: won't sit down in FF, head chopped off in IE

2007-06-15 Thread Joel D Canfield
http://spinhead.info/ah/4.1/

The tabbed navigation floats above the bottom of the header div instead
of dropping to the bottom in FF. In IE, it floats to the top and the top
border of each tab is chopped off.

I've colored the background of the navcontainer yellow and the header
div turquoise just so I can see what's where.

Any thoughts? Thanks.

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Re: [css-d] mystery padding/margin

2007-06-03 Thread Joel D Canfield
> Joel D Canfield wrote:
> > I can't sort out why the navigation is dropped about 1 em 
> below the top
> > of the containing div here:
> >
> > http://www.grassies.com/
> >
> 
> In what browser and operating system are you experiencing 
> this problem? 

well, invisible elves strike again - I don't see it any more.

thanks anyway

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[css-d] mystery padding/margin

2007-06-03 Thread Joel D Canfield
I can't sort out why the navigation is dropped about 1 em below the top
of the containing div here:

http://www.grassies.com/

Any ideas?

thanks

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Re: [css-d] Centering a floating element

2007-05-29 Thread Joel D Canfield
> It's a list of prices, in my opinion.

Prices, related to quantities. Rows and columns; a matrix of related
values.

A list is a single column of values; once you get into multiple columns
which are directly related like this, isn't that tabular?

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Re: [css-d] Centering a floating element

2007-05-29 Thread Joel D Canfield
> I do NOT want to resort to tables, and I'm 
> starting to think I have to :(

Why do you feel this isn't tabular data? 

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Re: [css-d] FW: Unwanted underlines on text (not links) in FF

2007-05-09 Thread Joel D Canfield
> All my *text* (not just links) is underlined on mouseover in 

This isn't valid:



An anchor has to have a separate end tag, thus:

visible text

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[css-d] image shifted right

2007-04-24 Thread Joel D Canfield
I can't sort out why the logo in the white box at the top is shifted right 8 or 
10 px

http://spinhead.info/ah/one/

I've colored the background image yellow to show where the left edge is; the 
white background of the logo image should cover that, but leave a small dark 
blue border to the right.

thanks for any suggestions

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[css-d] gap between divs in IE6 only

2007-04-15 Thread Joel D Canfield
This page

http://rgtoday.com/rg/new/

looks as expected in FireFox, last two versions of Netscape, last two versions 
of Opera, and IE7. In IE6 the last rounded corner-producing div in each column 
has a large gap above it.

Any idea what I've done to cause it?

Thanks very much.

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[css-d] IE padding and/or positioning issues

2007-04-14 Thread Joel D Canfield
http://rgtoday.com/rg/new/

Looks as expected in the last two versions of FireFox, Netscape, and Opera. In 
IE7, the text in the header is jammed at the top instead of being more or less 
vertically centered.

IE6 is even cooler; besides the header alignment issue, the image div at the 
bottom of each column is dropped by quite a bit, leaving a huge gap between the 
box and the curved bottom image. Also, there's a groovy black outline, possibly 
IE's way of telling me borders can't have a color of 'transparent' although I 
really have no clue.

Besides pointers to solutions to these issues, if there's a better way to do 
rounded corners without tacking a curved image on the bottom of the boxes, 
that'd be nice to know about.

thanks

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Re: [css-d] Firefox - opening container with only floats inside

2007-04-12 Thread Joel D Canfield
> I have a wrapper DIV. Inside that 
> wrapper div,
> all the content is floated, thereby causing the wrapper DIV 
> to never open up.

float the wrapper. if everything inside it is floated, it collapses. floating 
it puts it in the same negative zone as the other DIVs (and, presumably, 
Captain America)

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[css-d] IE6 blows up my nav; NN 8,9 add mystery line

2007-03-22 Thread Joel D Canfield
http://spinhead.info/ah/test/test.asp

IE6 blows up the navigation which appears as expected in FireFox, Opera, and 
Navigator

Navigator adds a thing peep of background under the last paragraph, which sure 
seems to be styled exactly as the two above it, which appear as expected.

(this is all a rough draft which is why the top banner pic is ugly, and the 
lower curves are jaggy. among other things ;)

thanks

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[css-d] a in li w/o padding-top -bottom: what is IE doing?

2007-03-09 Thread Joel D Canfield
http://streamliine.com/ii/bb/ looks as expected in FireFox, last two versions 
of NN, and Opera.

IE7 adds padding, methinks, to the text; IE6 blows up entirely and adds a quart 
of margin. why?

thanks muchly

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[css-d] setting width of

2007-03-06 Thread Joel D Canfield
I'm stumped (again)

How can I set the width of the navigation on the right so each link is
the same width? Meaning, the background/hover effects, etc.

http://www.grassies.com/g/

Setting the width of  just doesn't seem to have any effect
whatsoever.

Thanks.

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[css-d] IE (6 & 7) not clearing

2007-03-02 Thread Joel D Canfield
Still struggling with the quirks of CSS in IE; perhaps this should be
obvious, but I can't tell why the content div floats left against the
logo div in IE 6 & 7, rising to the top of the page, but in FF, NN, and
Opera, the header clears, and the content floats left against it,
top-aligned with the header:

http://www.grassies.com/g/

thanks ever so much

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