Re: [css-d] should i use css3
I almost always have to use a conditional stylesheet to get around one idiosyncracy or another in IE. They are getting shorter and shorter as my CSS skills improve. overflow: hidden helps keep IE in step with everyone else, in my experience. I recommend doing whatever you need to do suing CSS# but check the site periodically in IE and install the developer tools for IE so you can see what crazy tangent IE has looped off to. On Apr 12, 2012, at 10:03 AM, michelle bowman wrote: Another possible strategy... would be to go ahead and use the CSS 3 attributes you think will enhance your site. Then use conditional statements to include an IE Stylesheet, after your original stylesheet. Basically using this method, you'd add an additional stylesheet to fix any problems that might arise. An example of what this would look like is below: !--[if IE 7] link href=css/ie7.css rel=stylesheet type=text/css media=screen ![endif]-- A practical use for this could be using the text-shadow attribute. Maybe the text-shadow looks awesome in Firefox... but in IE 7 the text might be illegible when the shadow does not display. So you could use an IE stylesheet to change the color of the text to one that works without the shadow. Here's a link to a good article that explains IE conditional statements: http://www.quirksmode.org/css/condcom.html Also if you're interested in learning some more general knowledge about making your site work in various browsers, here are a few links on graceful degradation progressive enhancement. http://www.sitepoint.com/progressive-enhancement-graceful-degradation-basics/ http://www.alistapart.com/articles/understandingprogressiveenhancement/ hope that's helpful! Michelle On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 2:59 AM, Ingo leo.ing...@gmx.de wrote: meera kibe schrieb am 11.04.2012 04:42 keen to use it css3 for a website but i also want to cater to IE people. http://caniuse.com/ Best, Ingo __**__**__ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/**mailman/listinfo/css-dhttp://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.**com/http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/**policies.htmlhttp://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_**support_evolt/http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ -- Lorin Rivers Mosasaur: Killer Technical Marketing http://www.mosasaur.com mailto:lriv...@mosasaur.com 512/203.3198 (m) __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] position with div in stead of table
This reminds me of a rant I have boiling. Did the people who designed CSS ever, once, ask a designer what kind of stuff they would want to build for the web? Seriously, that doing this and aligning things in the center of other things are such common questions just annoys me tremendously. Why should/is this something that requires so much jiggery-pokery? Whew. I feel better now. On Apr 9, 2012, at 12:11 PM, Marie-Ange Demeulemeester wrote: Hi, I need a block with two columns. Despite of the quite simple code by using a table, I’ve tried to have the same result with DIV. The requirements are: · The columns have an equal height · Each column has a different background-color · 2 columns: first column always width 100px, second the rest of the screen (100% minus 100px) · The title and rule has to have the whole width of the second column, and not equal to the width of the text in that column. (Not OK in FF, in Chrome, ) · This must be X-browser: IE6+, FF 3+; Chrome, Safari My tryout: http://users.telenet.be/MarieAnge/banner1.html If somebody can simplify the code, please don’t hesitate. Thanks. -- Marie __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ -- Lorin Rivers Mosasaur: Killer Technical Marketing http://www.mosasaur.com mailto:lriv...@mosasaur.com 512/203.3198 (m) __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
[css-d] IE6 ordered list woes
I've gotten pretty good at figuring these out on my own, in fact generally have learned how to code cross-browser out of the gate, but this is baffling me. In not IE6, the ordered lists in the sidebar appear as designed, white background, orange border around the whole div, orange numbers, and so forth. In IE6, the numbers are missing and the border is around each block level element inside the div. http://onespot.com/test/seeitwork.html Clues? __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
[css-d] Border on just the text, not the full width of the element
I want to have a border-bottom on an h2 that's centered, but not have the border fill the whole width of the containing element. The content is dynamically generated, so I don't know exactly how wide to make it, so that's not an option. Essentially, WHILE IT HAS NOTHING AT ALL TO DO WITH A LINK, 'CAUSE ITS NOT ONE, imagine what a center-aligned link would look like, and that's what I want. I'm working from a comp and that's what's specified. Thanks! __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7 information -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Border on just the text, not the full width of the element
I'm experimenting, but I think display: inline; or some variation will
do what I want. I want the border to be a different color...
On 4/16/07, Gunlaug Sørtun [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Lorin Rivers wrote:
I want to have a border-bottom on an h2 that's centered, but not have
the border fill the whole width of the containing element. The content
is dynamically generated, so I don't know exactly how wide to make it,
so that's not an option.
Wouldn't...
h2 {text-align: center; text-decoration: underline;}
...be ok?
regards
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Re: [css-d] IE6 a:hover dimension change...
Thanks so much for your help on this.
I've never used static before--I thought it was like fixed. I have
SO much to learn...
On 9/19/06, Gunlaug Sørtun [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Lorin Rivers wrote:
Do you have suggestions in that regard?
http://mosasaur.dyndns.org:8080/austin_apartment.html
Sure :-)
Generally: don't lay out main parts of pages with 'position: absolute'.
Everything that involves text will need space to grow, and that means
other element must move to provide that space. Absolute positioned
elements are independent of each other - unless they are nested, so they
will simply overlap each other when they run out of space.
Normal flow and floats will adjust to their non-positioned surroundings,
so that's a much safer choice for most layouts.
Quick test: copy and paste the following in the page head - *below* all
stylesheet links...
style type=text/css
/*![CDATA[*/
#content,#thumbs,#footer{position: static; float: left; width: 560px;}
#content {margin: 100px 0 10px 150px;}
#thumbs,#footer {clear: left; margin: 0 0 0 150px;}
/* kill the 'margin-doubling on floats' bug in IE6 */
#content,#thumbs,#footer{display: inline;}
/*]]*/
/style
...and it will take over main parts in that page. The 'position: static'
nullifies all your positioning from #content down, and then I turn those
elements into floats and adjust them into place by using margins.
I haven't perfected any of this - it's just an example, so there's
plenty of room for more adjustment.
This should give you some ideas on how to create a self-adjusting
layout, and as you will see: I have not taken over all absolute
positioned elements. You can of course turn everything into floats
and/or normal flow, but that isn't really necessary.
regards
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[css-d] IE6 a:hover dimension change...
I'm having a weird problem with an image based menu where in IE6, the height of the reveal changes on mouse-over so you see the top of the next row of images. It works as expected in other browsers... Any clues? http://mosasaur.dyndns.org:8080/austin_apartment.html It's the top menu. __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7b2 testing hub -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] IE6 a:hover dimension change...
That works a treat! Thanks!
Do you have suggestions in that regard?
On 9/19/06, Gunlaug Sørtun [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Lorin Rivers wrote:
I'm having a weird problem with an image based menu where in IE6, the
height of the reveal changes on mouse-over so you see the top of the
next row of images. It works as expected in other browsers...
http://mosasaur.dyndns.org:8080/austin_apartment.html
IE6 doesn't respect dimensions, so it expands the elements to make
whatever is inside them fit. It doesn't happen on :hover, but your
background-arrangement makes it invisible until you hover over the links.
The addition of...
#menu {overflow: hidden;}
...will make that bugger more cooperative.
Advice:
Test that page with font-resizing across browser-land, and try to
prevent the resulting overlapping by changing your positioning-methods
so the layout can grow in size when needed.
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Re: [css-d] CSS-driven dropdowns with JS imageswapping rollover
I just finished rasslin' with Sucka, which rocks. The challenge is
understanding the specifity and nesting of the list items.
To get the sub-menus to look different from the top-level items (black
on grey, orange back for hover), I did this:
#nav li:hover ul a, #nav li.sfhover ul a {
color: black; font-weight: normal; border-right: none; background:
#ccc; padding: 4px 13px;
}
#nav li:hover ul a:hover, #nav li.sfhover ul a:hover {
background: #f90;}
I'll send you the source if you want...
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began with a suckerfish dropdown style menu. Per client desires, I
want to have the menu items appear as images (to get the right font)
after all. The upper level has the appropriate rollover appearance
(the images change). The drop downs menus, while the appear correctly,
don't change images.
Any suggestions as to what to fix to make the lower level ones change also?
Page: http://www.greenmountainaccess.net/~ktalmage/thirdsector/publicpart.php
Scripts:
http://www.greenmountainaccess.net/~ktalmage/thirdsector/js/rollmenu.js
(Note: not all images for the list exist yet... )
Thanks kindly.
Kir
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[css-d] Ultra-specificity in the context of Adam Kalsey's CSS Tabs
I want to take it step farther and have the sub-tab also be
highlighted based on an additional body class.
I can't get the color to change and this rule doesn't seem to be
working. Any ideas about what I'm doing wrong?
Here's some sample code:
body.section-2 benefits ul#menu li#nav-2 ul#subnav-2 li#benefits a {
color: white;
}
body class=section-2 benefits
ul id=menu
li id=nav-1a href=/static/main.htmlHome/a/li
li id=nav-2a href=/index.htmlCustomer Connect/a
ul id=subnav-2
li id=overview class=subfirsta
href=/index.htmlOverview/a/li
li id=benefitsa
href=/benefits.htmlBenefits/a/li
li id=featuresa
href=/features.htmlFeatures/a/li
li id=componentsa
href=/components.htmlComponents/a/li
li id=buya href=/buy.htmlBuy/a/li
li id=morea href=/more.htmlTell Me
More/a/li
li id=testimonialsa
href=/testimonials.htmlTestimonials/a/li
li id=questions class=sublasta
href=/questions.htmlQuestions/a/li
/ul
/li
li id=nav-3a href=/about.htmlAbout Us/a/li
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[css-d] Specificity, siblings, descendants
tap... tap... tap... Is this thing on?
I want to style an unordered list so that the top-level elements are
bold with no bullets, while the items inside these have the bullets,
etc...
#content li
{
list-style-image: url(/images/bullet3.gif);
list-style-type: none;
line-height: 1.2;
}
/*Shout out to: http://www.simplebits.com*/
#content p + ul.nested li
{
font-weight: bold;
list-style-type: none;
list-style-image: none;
margin-bottom: 0.5em;
}
#content .nested ul
{
font-weight: normal;
margin-top: .5em;
}
I couldn't figure out a way to do this without sibling selectors,
which makes IE cranky...
Suggestions?
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Re: [css-d] Specificity, siblings, descendants
I have a tendency to over-complicate my css rules...
On 3/8/06, Els [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Lorin Rivers wrote:
tap... tap... tap... Is this thing on?
Nope - that's a fake one.
har.
so here's how I solved it, based on y'alls hints.
#content .nested li { font-weight: bold; list-style-type: none;
list-style-position: default; list-style-image:none; }
#content .nested li li{ font-weight:normal;
list-style-image:url(/images/bullet3.gif); }
given this markup:
div id=content
ul class=nested
liItem 1
ul
lisub item 1a/li
lisub item 1b/li
/ul
/li
liItem 2
ul
lisub item 2a/li
lisub item 2b/li
lisub item 2c/li
/ul
/li
liItem 3
ul
lisub item 3a/li
lisub item 3b/li
lisub item 3c/li
/ul
/li
/ul
/div
Thanks a bunch!
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[css-d] Pure CSS tooltips
I've looked at a bunch of the css tooltip sites and the archives and I
have a workaround for this problem, but perhaps someone has a
suggestion on how to achieve what I really want...
===
CSS:
/*shout out to http://mikezilla.html*/
a.popup span { display: none; }
a:hover.popup span
{ display: block; position: fixed; margin: 0.25em; padding: 1em; top:
2em; right: 10em; width: 20em; z-index: 999; background: #ddd;
font-size: 0.9em; color: black; border-width: medium; border-style:
solid; border-top-color: #eee; border-left-color: #eee;
border-right-color: #999; border-bottom-color: #999; }
HTML:
a href=http://www.catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/H/hacker.html;
class=popuphackerspan1. A person who enjoys exploring the details
of programmable systems and how to stretch their capabilities, as
opposed to most users, who prefer to learn only the minimum necessary.
RFC1392, the Internet Users' Glossary, usefully amplifies this as: A
person who delights in having an intimate understanding of the
internal workings of a system, computers and computer networks in
particular./span/a
===
Originally, I had position:relative on a.popup and position:absolute
on a:hover.popup span, which worked OK except on Safari, where it was
clipped to the width of the link text. Any ideas on how to avoid the
clipping?
Thanks!
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Re: [css-d] looking for Suggestions/Gotcha's to avoid for a multi-stylesheet template type site.
Here are a few things I'd recommend: Check your stuff in IE as you go along Avoid hacks (instead use conditional comments such as: !--[if lte IE 6] link charset=utf-8 rel=stylesheet type=text/css href=CSS/IE6patches.css / ![endif]-- instead Backup often /or use source control For me, the hardest thing to get my head around was positioning floats it's worth it though... __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7b2 testing hub -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
[css-d] IE Win Questions
I've got a couple issues on my site that I just can't figure out.
One: the (very) top menu does not display the selected class (but
the side menu does, using very similar markup)
http://harvestclassic.org/rally/index.html
css:
#topnav a:link, #topnav a:visited
{
color: #fff;
background-color: #000;
text-decoration: none;
}
#topnav a:hover, #topnav a.selected
{
color: red;
text-decoration: none;
}
html:
ul id=topnav
lia href=/index.htmlGENERAL INFORMATION | /a/li
lia href=/rally/index.html class=selectedRALLY
EVENTS | /a/li
lia href=/rally/events.htmlRALLY SCHEDULE/a/li
/ul
Two: Everywhere BUT IEWin, the two columns' tops are even
div id=rallynav
dl style= float: left; width: 45%;
dta href=index.html
class=selectedDestination: Luckenbach/a/dt
dta href=show.htmlBike Show/a/dt
dta href=expo.htmlSponsor Expo/a/dt
dta href=raffle.htmlRaffle amp; Auction for
the Kids/a/dt
dta href=portraits.htmlBike Portraits/a/dt
/dl
dl style=margin-left: 50%; width: 45%;
dta href=dinner.htmlSaturday Dinner amp; Moto-
Movie/a/dt
dta href=trials.htmlLloyd Allen Memorial
Trial/a/dt
dta href=funrun.html100cc Fun Run/a/dt
dta href=weather.htmlWeather/a/dt
/dl
br clear=right /
/div
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[css-d] Footer woes--charity website
I've tried a few things suggested on the wiki, but none seem to work in my case. I want a footer. I want to have variable-length content. I want a rounded-corner box I want to stop tearing my hair out. Hep me please! Take a look @ http://harvestclassic.org/navbarlayout.html I've tried floating, clearing, absolute positioning. The best I've been able to get is to have the footer below the navbar. It's like the frame has no height--I'm sure that it's obvious, but I can't figure it out. It's for a good cause -- Lorin Rivers Mosasaur: Killer Technical Marketing http://www.mosasaur.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 512/203.3198 (m) __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] linked images taking on a:hover traits
Try setting the img to display: block Yep, just tried it and it works. Images are by default inline Then you can delete all the 0px stuff... Woo Hoo! I contributed something! -- Lorin Rivers Mosasaur: Killer Technical Marketing http://www.mosasaur.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 512/203.3198 (m) __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] I hope this is the last time
On May 13, 2005, at 2:59 AM, Ingo Chao wrote:
Lorin Rivers schrieb:
Allright,
Design change required a little tweaking to get it to this point.
Now the top section is ~55px too tall. In IE6 only, of course.
I've taken all the heights, widths, and most padding and margin in
an effort to isolate the problem, to no joy.
http://mosasaur.com/clients/less
I fear this is not the last time for your layout in IE6 ;)
you have
div id=lessframetop
div.../div
h1.../h1
/div
div id=lesscontent
...
/div
In IE6, you can define
div#lessframetop { ... height: 15px; ...}
but IE6 will expand to fit the following div:
div#lessframetop div { ... height: 55px;... }
similar with h1:
div#lessframetop h1 { ... position: relative; ... top: -60px; }
* html div#lessframetop h1 {... height: 1%; }
Note the word /then/ here: The box's position is calculated
according to the normal flow ... Then the box is offset relative to
its normal position. When a box B is relatively positioned, the
position of the following box is calculated as though B were not
offset.
This makes it real hard in IE6:
#lessframetop is expanded by the height of div and h1
The dilemma in your design is that you have to assign a height in
#lessframetop to get a reasonable height for the bg-img. (So you'd
end in the very same problem by using floats: IE6 will auto-contain
these floats because of the layout #lessframetop.)
Sorry, before we start a. p. more and more or strike back with neg.
r.p. this and that, I think you should isolate the lessframetop/
lesscontent and(!) its nearest positioned ancestor for a simplified
testcase that works in FF and breaks in IE without debugging stuff
and perhaps less orange :)
Ingo
Ingo, you are the BEST.
OK, well I took out all the debugging borders out, as well as the
position info for h1. The question I should be asking I guess is how
do I get the h1 to be centered vertically in #frametop and more-or-
less aligned right?
In FF now, the h1 is left-aligned and below the div and in IE it's in
the same position, but also makes the containing div that much taller.
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Re: [css-d] div background issues on Mozilla
On May 6, 2005, at 9:01 AM, Lorin Rivers wrote: On this page: http://mosasaur.com/clients/less/ The divs toward the bottom center should alternate between white and light yellow. It renders fine on Safari but on Mozilla the there's no background. If I uncomment the debugging borders, the background colors DO work. What am I doing wrong? Jinkies! It really blows in IE. Crud! -- Lorin Rivers Mosasaur: Killer Technical Marketing http://www.mosasaur.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 512/203.3198 (m) __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
