Re: [css-d] *argh* listitis.....!?!?

2005-09-21 Thread Kristina Floyd

Eric Shepherd wrote:

Also, there's no relationship right now between your top nav bar and
the subnav - if the subnav is related to HOME, for example, it should
be a nested list (ideally) or less ideally have some sort of heading
that identifies it as a subnav. If I look at the page non-styled, the
subnav simply lines up as list items following the upper nav, so it
appears to be at the same hierarchy.


Eric

Thank you for all your advice I have taken it all on board.
http://24.m-corp.com/ID08_venueDetail.html

Re; the topNav and subNav, and subNav being a sublist of topNav - I 
totally agree and really want to do this.  The trouble is I'm really 
struggling to make it work in the two horizontal lists as they are 
visually.  Do you know of any examples that I could follow and learn from?


Thanks again.
Kristina

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Re: [css-d] *argh* listitis.....!?!?

2005-09-21 Thread Eric Shepherd
I don't have time to write about this menu now, and I barely remember
making it, but you can check out www.creeksidebanquet.com, and my
article on A List Apart, at www.alistapart.com/articles/hybrid/,
though it has an extra layer of complexity you don't need. Write me
privately if you have questions about these, and I'll respond when I'm
not at work.

On 9/21/05, Kristina Floyd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Eric Shepherd wrote:
  Also, there's no relationship right now between your top nav bar and
  the subnav - if the subnav is related to HOME, for example, it should
  be a nested list (ideally) or less ideally have some sort of heading
  that identifies it as a subnav. If I look at the page non-styled, the
  subnav simply lines up as list items following the upper nav, so it
  appears to be at the same hierarchy.

 Eric

 Thank you for all your advice I have taken it all on board.
 http://24.m-corp.com/ID08_venueDetail.html

 Re; the topNav and subNav, and subNav being a sublist of topNav - I
 totally agree and really want to do this.  The trouble is I'm really
 struggling to make it work in the two horizontal lists as they are
 visually.  Do you know of any examples that I could follow and learn from?

 Thanks again.
 Kristina


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[css-d] *argh* listitis.....!?!?

2005-09-20 Thread Kristina Floyd

Hello list

I'm concerned that i've got listitis!!  What I mean is, I think I've 
gone from div-itis to li-stitis.


Please can you tell me if the information on this page is a list?
http://24.m-corp.com/ID08_venueDetail.html

In general is the information on that page semantically correct?  How 
can I check this?


If you are interested in seeing any of the other pages in this prototype 
please go to http://24.m-corp.com/


Is this something other people are finding, 'that everything is a list'? 
 Is this true, or are we in danger of going crazy with lists?


(I want to try and get a better handle on this, before I've got a 
ga-zillion websites that will need re-doing, in the not so distant future)


Thanks
Kristina

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Re: [css-d] *argh* listitis.....!?!?

2005-09-20 Thread Eric Shepherd
Kristina wrote:

 I'm concerned that i've got listitis!!  What I mean is, I think I've
 gone from div-itis to li-stitis.

Kristina: I think much of the content on your page is lists. However,
the Venue Detail is not really a list. I would suggest that this
information is really a definition list - you have a parent term -
the venue - with children definitions or data about the venue. dd
definition tags also allow block-level content, so you can put
paragraphs in there, for example.

Also, there's no relationship right now between your top nav bar and
the subnav - if the subnav is related to HOME, for example, it should
be a nested list (ideally) or less ideally have some sort of heading
that identifies it as a subnav. If I look at the page non-styled, the
subnav simply lines up as list items following the upper nav, so it
appears to be at the same hierarchy.

There's no way to check for sure whether your markup is correct. But
rest in the knowledge that there really aren't THAT many HTML
tags...think about what the content really IS. In the case of your
nav, the secondary nav is (I think) hierarchically nested in the first
nav, so build it as a nested list and then style it to position where
you want.

In the case of lists, think about whether each of the items in your
list could be shuffled around without losing meaning. To me,
Lighthouse, Poole needs to be at the top - it's the parent, and the
rest is just meta data about the venue. So, a dl definition list
makes more sense to me than making it equivalent to the other list
items.
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