>As far as I know, Bob Easton was credited with the off-left technique
>-- here's what happened to him:
>
>http://www.access-matters.com/2008/04/19/off-left-banned-by-google/
>
>It's something to consider.


What? Not letting your site get hacked?

Tedd, I think you've missed the punchline of Bob's post and would 
speculate that you were mislead by the url his cms created which 
dispenses the question mark in Bob's actual title for the post.

The upshot is we don't really know how, why and when Google (and 
other search engine providers) discriminate against any particular 
form of hiding text with CSS. [0]

What we do know for sure though is that this issue has very little to 
do with this list's stated purpose.


Thread closed please people.


Alex
css-d moderator




[0] Hiding offscreen is probably fairly safe since so many 
accessibility types have advocated it and so many sites actually do 
use it legitimately.

Even if Google did ban its use outright, spammers could just as 
trivially place the stuff they want to hide beneath another element 
with a higher z-order that would obscure what was beneath it. Maybe 
they already do.

Short of Google essentially rendering each and every page and 
developing an articially intelligent agent that would compare what 
was hidden and what was shown [1], this is an area that will, for the 
foreseeable future, require human judgement and intervention - which 
is not to say Google might not disagree with what you over what is 
legitimate hiding or not.

The tags and css you use are going to come way down the list of 
things in the big picture when compared to the actual content. If you 
still feel you need to worry about such things, please take it to a 
more general web dev discussion list, or even better, one dedicated 
to SEO.


[1] Beyond checking that the color of text is not set to the same as 
the background...
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