[css-d] Navigation: Unordered list or simply float links

2009-09-19 Thread Brian M. Curran
Hi,
In my short time of CSS web page formatting I've been using unordered lists to 
create navigation buttons. You know: home, about, contact, and etc. Well I've 
been thinking. Is there anything wrong with: putting my desired http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d
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[css-d] Navigation: Unordered list or simply float links

2009-09-19 Thread Brian M. Curran
>>Brian M. Curran wrote:

>> Hi,
>> In my short time of CSS web page formatting I've been using  
>> unordered lists to create navigation buttons. You know: home, about,  
>> contact, and etc. Well I've been thinking. Is there anything wrong  
>> with: putting my desired > the text, and thus giving me something similar to a navigation bar?  
>> The reason I ask is because: 1. On a project I'm working on I'm not  
>> looking to do a nav bar, but rather a bunch of links in a row. Like  
>> how you may see at the bottom of a number of websites. 2. In my  
>> experience of working with unordered lists, they haven't been the  
>> easiest things to manipulate.



>Tim wrote:

>Hi Brian - Of course you can do what you want! However, I'd be  
>intrigued to know what effect you are having trouble with using an  
>ordered list. You will probably find that a good starting point is to  
>zero everything out with some reset CSS (e.g. 
>http://developer.yahoo.com/yui/reset/ 
>, http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2007/05/01/reset-reloaded/). This  
>gives you a blank-ish slate to start applying your rules to.

>Have a look at Listamatic for inspiration 
>http://css.maxdesign.com.au/listamatic/

>Cheers, Tim



Tim,
That is a super resource. Thanks so much. Perhaps now I'll just stick with the 
list. 

>... I'd be  
>intrigued to know what effect you are having trouble with using an  
>ordered list.
In the past it has just seemed cumbersome to work with. Specifically it seems 
the list is in a container, so the container and the list both need to be 
formatted with css. Then items under the list need to be cleared. Maybe there 
is, but at this point I don't see the up side to using an ul. Perhaps I need to 
learn more, and then an up side will become apparent.

Sincerely,
Brian








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Re: [css-d] Navigation: Unordered list or simply float links

2009-09-19 Thread Tim Snadden

On 20/09/2009, at 5:27 AM, Brian M. Curran wrote:

> Hi,
> In my short time of CSS web page formatting I've been using  
> unordered lists to create navigation buttons. You know: home, about,  
> contact, and etc. Well I've been thinking. Is there anything wrong  
> with: putting my desired  the text, and thus giving me something similar to a navigation bar?  
> The reason I ask is because: 1. On a project I'm working on I'm not  
> looking to do a nav bar, but rather a bunch of links in a row. Like  
> how you may see at the bottom of a number of websites. 2. In my  
> experience of working with unordered lists, they haven't been the  
> easiest things to manipulate.

Hi Brian - Of course you can do what you want! However, I'd be  
intrigued to know what effect you are having trouble with using an  
ordered list. You will probably find that a good starting point is to  
zero everything out with some reset CSS (e.g. 
http://developer.yahoo.com/yui/reset/ 
, http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2007/05/01/reset-reloaded/). This  
gives you a blank-ish slate to start applying your rules to.

Have a look at Listamatic for inspiration 
http://css.maxdesign.com.au/listamatic/

Cheers, Tim
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Re: [css-d] Navigation: Unordered list or simply float links

2009-09-19 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh

On Sep 20, 2009, at 6:26 AM, Brian M. Curran wrote:

>> ... I'd be
>> intrigued to know what effect you are having trouble with using an
>> ordered list.
> In the past it has just seemed cumbersome to work with. Specifically  
> it seems the list is in a container, so the container and the list  
> both need to be formatted with css. Then items under the list need  
> to be cleared. Maybe there is, but at this point I don't see the up  
> side to using an ul. Perhaps I need to learn more, and then an up  
> side will become apparent.

Using an unordered list (ul/li) is not so much about styling (you can  
style anything to look the way you want anyway) but about using a well- 
structured and semantically-rich html foundation. This offers  
advantages for users that use non-visual UAs (robots...) or screen  
readers.

Philippe
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http://l-c-n.com/





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