Re: [css-d] A problem on safari

2008-10-16 Thread Vahis
Tim Dawson wrote:
> Could someone check this page on Mac/Safari, please, and tell me whether the 
> content is being 'floated' (?) way off to the right (and if so why, if 
> possible).
>
> http://www.holidaymullandiona.co.uk/sealife/whales.php
>
> It's OK in FF3, IE7, and IE6.  A colleague reports the problem in Mac/Safari, 
> but I have no means of viewing it myself.
>
>   
Here's one way to check with different browsers:

http://browsershots.org/

Att: They only let you do one check per day.

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Re: [css-d] A problem on safari

2008-10-16 Thread Tim Dawson
Philippe Wittenbergh wrote:
> On Oct 16, 2008, at 8:17 PM, Tim Dawson wrote:
> 
>> Philippe Wittenbergh wrote:
>>> On Oct 16, 2008, at 5:47 PM, Tim Dawson wrote:
>>>
 Could someone check this page on Mac/Safari, please, and tell me
 whether the
 content is being 'floated' (?) way off to the right (and if so why,
 if possible).

 http://www.holidaymullandiona.co.uk/sealife/whales.php
>>>
>>> #txtcol {clear:both}
>>>
>>> I'm not clear exactly what Safari/WebKit is doing. From a quick look:
>>> the orange nav is 760px wide (on purpose ?), the wrapper (outer) is
>>> 770px wide and Safari puts the #txtcol inside that 10px gap. Of course
>>> it overflows to the right.
>>>
>>> Philippe
>>
>> I installed Safari for Windows, and was able to see the effect.
>>
>> #txtcol {clear:both} seems to have fixed it, but IE7 then made a very 
>> tall thin
>> column.  Removing #txtcol {width: auto;} fixed that, so I think the 
>> problem is
>> resolved.  I still can't see anywhere that div#nav is set to 760px wide.
>>
>> Thank you for your help.
> 
> When I originally loaded the page, The Webkit Inspector reported 760px 
> for that orange bar. I don't remember the name of the stylesheet.
> I reloaded the page now, and it reports 770px.
> The clear:both on the #txtcol is not necessary anymore, although safe to 
> add.
> 
> Philippe

Thanks.  The problem wasn't the absence of {clear: both;}, but the presence of 
{float: none;}.  The other browsers were happy, but not Safari.
I'd better get myself 'Webkit Inspector' now.  I've found the nightly builds at 
webkit.org.  Is that it, or is there a released stable version ?

Tim

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Re: [css-d] A problem on safari

2008-10-16 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh

On Oct 16, 2008, at 8:17 PM, Tim Dawson wrote:

> Philippe Wittenbergh wrote:
>> On Oct 16, 2008, at 5:47 PM, Tim Dawson wrote:
>>
>>> Could someone check this page on Mac/Safari, please, and tell me
>>> whether the
>>> content is being 'floated' (?) way off to the right (and if so why,
>>> if possible).
>>>
>>> http://www.holidaymullandiona.co.uk/sealife/whales.php
>>
>> #txtcol {clear:both}
>>
>> I'm not clear exactly what Safari/WebKit is doing. From a quick look:
>> the orange nav is 760px wide (on purpose ?), the wrapper (outer) is
>> 770px wide and Safari puts the #txtcol inside that 10px gap. Of  
>> course
>> it overflows to the right.
>>
>> Philippe
>
> I installed Safari for Windows, and was able to see the effect.
>
> #txtcol {clear:both} seems to have fixed it, but IE7 then made a  
> very tall thin
> column.  Removing #txtcol {width: auto;} fixed that, so I think the  
> problem is
> resolved.  I still can't see anywhere that div#nav is set to 760px  
> wide.
>
> Thank you for your help.

When I originally loaded the page, The Webkit Inspector reported 760px  
for that orange bar. I don't remember the name of the stylesheet.
I reloaded the page now, and it reports 770px.
The clear:both on the #txtcol is not necessary anymore, although safe  
to add.

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Re: [css-d] A problem on safari

2008-10-16 Thread Tim Dawson
Philippe Wittenbergh wrote:
> On Oct 16, 2008, at 5:47 PM, Tim Dawson wrote:
> 
>> Could someone check this page on Mac/Safari, please, and tell me  
>> whether the
>> content is being 'floated' (?) way off to the right (and if so why,  
>> if possible).
>>
>> http://www.holidaymullandiona.co.uk/sealife/whales.php
> 
> #txtcol {clear:both}
> 
> I'm not clear exactly what Safari/WebKit is doing. From a quick look:   
> the orange nav is 760px wide (on purpose ?), the wrapper (outer) is  
> 770px wide and Safari puts the #txtcol inside that 10px gap. Of course  
> it overflows to the right.
> 
> Philippe

I installed Safari for Windows, and was able to see the effect.

#txtcol {clear:both} seems to have fixed it, but IE7 then made a very tall thin 
column.  Removing #txtcol {width: auto;} fixed that, so I think the problem is 
resolved.  I still can't see anywhere that div#nav is set to 760px wide.

Thank you for your help.

Tim
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Re: [css-d] A problem on safari

2008-10-16 Thread Tim Dawson
Philippe Wittenbergh wrote:
> On Oct 16, 2008, at 5:47 PM, Tim Dawson wrote:
> 
>> Could someone check this page on Mac/Safari, please, and tell me  
>> whether the
>> content is being 'floated' (?) way off to the right (and if so why,  
>> if possible).
>>
>> http://www.holidaymullandiona.co.uk/sealife/whales.php
> 
> #txtcol {clear:both}
> 
> I'm not clear exactly what Safari/WebKit is doing. From a quick look:   
> the orange nav is 760px wide (on purpose ?), the wrapper (outer) is  
> 770px wide and Safari puts the #txtcol inside that 10px gap. Of course  
> it overflows to the right.
> 
> Philippe
> ---
Thanks, Philippe and Martin.

Martin: I'd better get myself set up with Safari for Windows pdq.

Philippe: div#nav is set to 770px in sfnav.css, I can't see any other setting 
(nor should there be one), but I agree it would be a problem if it were 760px. 
Where are you getting this value from ?  No margins or padding on div#nav 
either, although there is inside the s.

I had #txtcol {clear: both;} originally, but it seemed to cause some other 
problem.  Unfortunately my notes don't tell me, so I'll put it back and see !

Tim
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Re: [css-d] A problem on safari

2008-10-16 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh

On Oct 16, 2008, at 5:47 PM, Tim Dawson wrote:

> Could someone check this page on Mac/Safari, please, and tell me  
> whether the
> content is being 'floated' (?) way off to the right (and if so why,  
> if possible).
>
> http://www.holidaymullandiona.co.uk/sealife/whales.php

#txtcol {clear:both}

I'm not clear exactly what Safari/WebKit is doing. From a quick look:   
the orange nav is 760px wide (on purpose ?), the wrapper (outer) is  
770px wide and Safari puts the #txtcol inside that 10px gap. Of course  
it overflows to the right.

Philippe
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Re: [css-d] A problem on safari

2008-10-16 Thread Martin Möller
>
>
> It's OK in FF3, IE7, and IE6.  A colleague reports the problem in
> Mac/Safari,
> but I have no means of viewing it myself.
>
>
>
I just checked in Windows Safari  3.0.3 - same Problem there.
You can get it here: http://www.apple.com/safari/download/
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Re: [css-d] A problem on safari

2008-10-16 Thread Tim Dawson
Raoul Snyman wrote:
> Hi Tim,
> 
> On Thu, 16 Oct 2008 09:47:52 +0100, Tim Dawson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Could someone check this page on Mac/Safari, please, and tell me whether
>> the content is being 'floated' (?) way off to the right (and if so why,
>> if possible).
>>
>> http://www.holidaymullandiona.co.uk/sealife/whales.php
>>
>> It's OK in FF3, IE7, and IE6.  A colleague reports the problem in
>> Mac/Safari, but I have no means of viewing it myself.
> 
> I've taken a screenshot, it's attached.
> 
Thanks, Raoul, that's what my colleague reported.  All the content is appearing 
outside the (intended) page, to the right.  It feels like a float gone wrong. 
My problem is to determine why when I can't reproduce it on any machine I've 
got.

Tim
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[css-d] A problem on safari

2008-10-16 Thread Tim Dawson
Could someone check this page on Mac/Safari, please, and tell me whether the 
content is being 'floated' (?) way off to the right (and if so why, if 
possible).

http://www.holidaymullandiona.co.uk/sealife/whales.php

It's OK in FF3, IE7, and IE6.  A colleague reports the problem in Mac/Safari, 
but I have no means of viewing it myself.

Tim
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