[css-d] IE 8 issue upon refresh
Hello list, Shocking as this may seem, I'm having an issue with IE8. When I first hit this page it seems to work fine. But after a refresh or two, it goes blank and doesn't recover. Can anyone see what I am not? http://proof.mlinc.com/tl/ie8test/ Thanks in advance. -- Tom Livingston | Senior Front-End Developer | Media Logic | ph: 518.456.3015x231 | fx: 518.456.4279 | medialogic.com #663399 __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] IE 8 issue upon refresh
On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 2:56 PM, Tom Livingston tom...@gmail.com wrote: Hello list, Shocking as this may seem, I'm having an issue with IE8. When I first hit this page it seems to work fine. But after a refresh or two, it goes blank and doesn't recover. Can anyone see what I am not? http://proof.mlinc.com/tl/ie8test/ Thanks in advance. -- This was solved. It was a JS issue. Unfortunately. Thanks, if you looked. -- Tom Livingston | Senior Front-End Developer | Media Logic | ph: 518.456.3015x231 | fx: 518.456.4279 | medialogic.com #663399 __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
[css-d] IE 8 issue
I am a web developer taking over the maintenance of my company's site from a former developer. We recently upgraded to IE 8 and noticed an issue we hadn't had before. If you look at the following page in both IE 6/7 and Firefox, it should look okay: www.pottersignal.com/search_results.aspx However, in IE 8 the middle section expands to fill the whole page. Anybody see what in the CSS could be causing this? I've tried a few adjustments that don't seem to be working. By the way, I know the current architecture of the site leaves a *lot *to be desired. However, I've been tasked to come in and update/clean up where I can, but am not able to do a complete overall at the moment. So any suggestions that work with what we've got right now would be very appreciated! Thanks! ellen __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] IE 8 issue
On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 8:12 PM, Ellen Heitman ellen.heit...@gmail.com wrote: I am a web developer taking over the maintenance of my company's site from a former developer. We recently upgraded to IE 8 and noticed an issue we hadn't had before. If you look at the following page in both IE 6/7 and Firefox, it should look okay: www.pottersignal.com/search_results.aspx However, in IE 8 the middle section expands to fill the whole page. Anybody see what in the CSS could be causing this? I've tried a few adjustments that don't seem to be working. By the way, I know the current architecture of the site leaves a *lot *to be desired. However, I've been tasked to come in and update/clean up where I can, but am not able to do a complete overall at the moment. So any suggestions that work with what we've got right now would be very appreciated! The markup of that page has several errors (try running a validator, like the the w3c one: http://validator.w3.org/check?verbose=1uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pottersignal.com%2Fsearch_results.aspx) Most are probably harmless (many will probably disappear simply changing the doctype into HTML instead of XHTML). But the ones related to mismatches in the opening/closing of tags are serious and may cause differences amongst browsers; you should try correcting them. Indeed the difference in the IE8 rendering seems caused by the form element which is opened at line 37 and wrongly closed at line 126. If you close it where more appropriate (~ line 91), IE8 may render the page more in line with the others. Bruno PS: Happy New Year 2010 to all !!! -- Bruno Fassino http://www.brunildo.org/test __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] IE 8
Kathy Wheeler wrote: I've seen 'real' IE6's on two different machines give different results to each other :-( Change one or more settings in IE6, and get another result... Same goes for all browsers, so if one wants to know the outcome at the user-end one better test with a whole range of options and setting combinations in each browser. Testing only at default or with ones own or someone else's preferred settings in a browser, don't really tell much. regards Georg -- http://www.gunlaug.no __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] IE 8
On 15/05/2009, at 4:28 AM, Vincent Pollard wrote: I used to love using Multiples IES but I have seen several instances over the past two years where Multiples IEs gave us a different result from 'real' IE6. I've seen 'real' IE6's on two different machines give different results to each other :-( I really wish it would just go away so we didn't have to worry about it, self-destruct or something. KathyW. __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] IE 8
2009/5/4 Climis, Tim tcli...@indiana.edu: Microsoft has actually done something to make out jobs easier there. (unbelievable, I know) IE8 has a Compatability View button in the address bar, which when pressed, makes pages render as in IE7. So you don't need separate machines, nor do you need to keep IE7. Don't use this for testing IE7 compatibility. It is designed to let users attempt to view webpages which would otherwise break in IE8. It is not designed as a testing tool. As such it: (a) Is not a perfectly compatible with IE7 - there are differences. and (b) It flags the URL as potentially incompatible with IE8 with Microsoft. If enough users use IE7 mode, then the URL could be added to a list of URLs for which compatibility mode is the default for IE8 users. -- David Dorward http://dorward.me.ukhttp://blog.dorward.me.uk __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] IE 8
Divya Manian wrote: I have also experienced MultipleIEs have issues with javascript (sometimes CSS). Plus it doesn't work as expected when u install IE 8. I am still looking for a good solution to test IE 6/7/8 in one machine, no luck so far. Linux with VirtualBox and 3 different Windows VM's works. -- David gn...@hawaii.rr.com authenticity, honesty, community __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] IE 8
2009/5/11 david gn...@hawaii.rr.com: Divya Manian wrote: I have also experienced MultipleIEs have issues with javascript (sometimes CSS). Plus it doesn't work as expected when u install IE 8. I am still looking for a good solution to test IE 6/7/8 in one machine, no luck so far. Linux with VirtualBox and 3 different Windows VM's works. A new toy has been discovered for Win-machines: IETester http://www.my-debugbar.com/ietester/index_all.php Shows your page in IE 5.5, 6, 7, 8. IE8 only showing, if IE7 is installed. I don't know if it's having any issues with javascript ? -- Regards / Mhv. Ib K. jensen - http://ikjensen.dk __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] IE 8
On 5/5/09 4:28 PM, Kathy Wheeler kat...@home.albury.net.au wrote: Ummm ... scratches head ... what do you mean by does not support ? IE6 standalone on my test win box loads pngs fine ( well ... as fine as ie6 is supposed to anyway - no png transparency :-( ). I use them (pngs) as background images for css elements, inline as normal images ... and ie6 displays them all. Do you perhaps mean the various png transparency hacks??? I'm still having trouble finding one of those that works for png transparency with CSS background images. Here is the BEST solution to IE png transparency: http://www.dillerdesign.com/experiment/DD_belatedPNG/ It does background-position on transparent pngs and is faster than the usual png hacks. I have also experienced MultipleIEs have issues with javascript (sometimes CSS). Plus it doesn't work as expected when u install IE 8. I am still looking for a good solution to test IE 6/7/8 in one machine, no luck so far. - divya -- I blog at http://nimbupani.com/blog __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
[css-d] ie/8 max-width
When the page is dragged to a 640 window, the large image should reduce
in both width and height.
Our new found standard compliant friend, IE/8 does not seem to go along
with the program in PC XP on a relatively fast dsl modem (the image in
IE/8 at 640 is more square than rectangular).
IE/7 is cooperating with this declaration:
#d img {display : block; max-width : 96%; height: auto!important;
margin-bottom : 16px;}
http://chelseacreekstudio.com/ylaakso/yar/projects/k2.html
Can anyone please confirm?
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Re: [css-d] ie/8 max-width
From: David Laakso da...@chelseacreekstudio.com
When the page is dragged to a 640 window, the large image should reduce
in both width and height.
Our new found standard compliant friend, IE/8 does not seem to go along
with the program in PC XP on a relatively fast dsl modem (the image in
IE/8 at 640 is more square than rectangular).
IE/7 is cooperating with this declaration:
#d img {display : block; max-width : 96%; height: auto!important;
margin-bottom : 16px;}
http://chelseacreekstudio.com/ylaakso/yar/projects/k2.html
Can anyone please confirm?
Get the page out of quirks mode (remove the xml prolog) and check again.
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Re: [css-d] ie/8 max-width
Al Sparber wrote:
From: David Laakso da...@chelseacreekstudio.com
When the page is dragged to a 640 window, the large image should reduce
in both width and height.
Our new found standard compliant friend, IE/8 does not seem to go along
with the program in PC XP on a relatively fast dsl modem (the image in
IE/8 at 640 is more square than rectangular).
IE/7 is cooperating with this declaration:
#d img {display : block; max-width : 96%; height: auto!important;
margin-bottom : 16px;}
http://chelseacreekstudio.com/ylaakso/yar/projects/k2.html
Can anyone please confirm?
Get the page out of quirks mode (remove the xml prolog) and check again.
Makes no difference whatsoever, Al.
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Re: [css-d] ie/8 max-width
Al Sparber wrote: From: David Laakso da...@chelseacreekstudio.com Get the page out of quirks mode (remove the xml prolog) and check again. Makes no difference whatsoever, Al. If you remove both the width and height attributes from the img tag, it works. Remove just the height and it doesn't. Looks like a remnant of haslayout :-) http://www.projectseven.com/csslab/ie8/min-max-height-width/ -- Al Sparber - PVII http://www.projectseven.com Dreamweaver Menus | Galleries | Widgets http://www.projectseven.com/go/apm An Accessible Elegant Accordion __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] ie/8 max-width
Al Sparber wrote: Al Sparber wrote: From: David Laakso da...@chelseacreekstudio.com Get the page out of quirks mode (remove the xml prolog) and check again. Makes no difference whatsoever, Al. If you remove both the width and height attributes from the img tag, it works. Remove just the height and it doesn't. Looks like a remnant of haslayout :-) http://www.projectseven.com/csslab/ie8/min-max-height-width/ Umm. Not sure what to do. I've been using width/height on images since forever. Excess baggage with sometimes image distortion seen in IE/5x? Whatever, and either way, unless someone else has an alternative, I will take Al's suggestion and ditch the height/width attributes :-) . ~d __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] ie/8 max-width
Al Sparber wrote: Al Sparber wrote: From: David Laakso da...@chelseacreekstudio.com Get the page out of quirks mode (remove the xml prolog) and check again. Makes no difference whatsoever, Al. If you remove both the width and height attributes from the img tag, it works. Remove just the height and it doesn't. Looks like a remnant of haslayout :-) http://www.projectseven.com/csslab/ie8/min-max-height-width/ Thanks for the test page. Yes, I know. Mac FF and Mac Safari handle it a little differently than the other browsers I checked earlier without width/height. __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] IE 8
Kathy: Sorry I haven't been able to respond. It seems that you are hearing the same thing from other people. Right now I can't unfortunately reach the SVN where I saw the problem. What I did see is the hacked stand-alone IE even with the proper .dll files for PNG transparency started pushing background position items off parts of the page (instead of just not working) when a real windows IE 6 imaged with the same OS was working. Other stuff was breaking too, elements and such to a point that we stopped using it because things would render different for each of the customers. Bug me in a few days to remind me and I'll get you lots of proof ;-) Cheers! -ck On May 4, 2009, at 5:11 PM, Kathy Wheeler wrote: On 05/05/2009, at 5:25 AM, Court Kizer wrote: I recommend staying away from multiple IE I can think of 20 instances where it will render different from a machine with the real thing. Virtualiin is free. I have asked for documented proofs of this before and so far have received none! Not even sample URL's. I would appreciate more details on those 20 instances. So far MultipleIE for ie 5, 5.5 and 6, with ie8 handling 7 (in compatability mode) and 8 appears to be working as well as (or as badly as) ie *ever* works. And MultipleIE is free too. KathyW. __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] IE 8
plus: it doesn't contain IE 7 Yes - it doesn't, but the same team that developed it (Tredosoft) have come up with an IE 7 Standalone version: http://tredosoft.com/IE7_standalone It is packed separately, because at the time of release IE7 was the latest IE version, and you could either have an original IE 7 and want to use previous versions (multiple IE), or don't want to upgrade yet, but install just a IE 7 standalone for testing purposes. Regards, Vladislav Vladimirov http://www.ovalpixels.com/ __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] IE 8
Kathy Wheeler wrote: On 05/05/2009, at 5:25 AM, Court Kizer wrote: I recommend staying away from multiple IE I can think of 20 instances where it will render different from a machine with the real thing. Virtualiin is free. I have asked for documented proofs of this before and so far have received none! Not even sample URL's. I would appreciate more details on those 20 instances. Here's one: Standalone IE6 does not support .png images. Multi-IE6 on XP with IE7 installed, does. I shouldn't need to provide urls for that, so I won't. It isn't necessarily a rendering difference per the description above, but it's a proof that Multi-IE6 isn't the same as IE6. It stands to reason that there will be other differences, with no reason to doubt that rendering per the above will also be affected. Reese -- http://inkworkswell.com __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] IE 8
On 06/05/2009, at 12:42 AM, Reese wrote: Kathy Wheeler wrote: I have asked for documented proofs of this before and so far have received none! Not even sample URL's. I would appreciate more details on those 20 instances. Here's one: Standalone IE6 does not support .png images. Multi-IE6 on XP with IE7 installed, does. Ummm ... scratches head ... what do you mean by does not support ? IE6 standalone on my test win box loads pngs fine ( well ... as fine as ie6 is supposed to anyway - no png transparency :-( ). I use them (pngs) as background images for css elements, inline as normal images ... and ie6 displays them all. Do you perhaps mean the various png transparency hacks??? I'm still having trouble finding one of those that works for png transparency with CSS background images. Regards, KathyW. __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] IE 8
Kathy Wheeler wrote: Ummm ... scratches head ... what do you mean by does not support ? IE6 standalone on my test win box loads pngs fine ( well ... as fine as ie6 is supposed to anyway - no png transparency :-( ). I use them (pngs) as background images for css elements, inline as normal images ... and ie6 displays them all. Do you perhaps mean the various png transparency hacks??? I'm still having trouble finding one of those that works for png transparency with CSS background images. Yes, my apologies for my haste earlier. The point was, Multi-IE6 is not the same as IE6. Reese -- http://www.inkworkswell.com __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] IE 8
I've noticed that many of you are developing with IE 8. Is there a way to install IE 8 on your 'puter and still keep IE 7? Or do you have to use separate machines? Microsoft has actually done something to make out jobs easier there. (unbelievable, I know) IE8 has a Compatability View button in the address bar, which when pressed, makes pages render as in IE7. So you don't need separate machines, nor do you need to keep IE7. ---Tim __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] IE 8
Sorry I hit send. iPhone 3.0 beta bug. Again if u have a mac install several tinyXP OS and turn o. Unit mode then you can have all the. Variants of every plaform and screen right I side your mac. I use an AppleScript / commandline trinks to double click to post mn current browse windows across the various VMs. Again sorry for the run on email. I'm waiting to board my plane. In the interest of full disclosure I was the UI Sr. Visual design for the VMware fusion product. And yes I know it's badly designed. Win marketing team was the bosses :-) Sent from my iPhone On May 4, 2009, at 7:30 AM, Kenneth MacLean kmacl...@ic.net wrote: I've noticed that many of you are developing with IE 8. Is there a way to install IE 8 on your 'puter and still keep IE 7? Or do you have to use separate machines? __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] IE 8
Ken. Google TinyXP it is a 200mb build of windows that does NOT have any IE web browsers installed. Everytime I need to work with windows I just copy the 200mb file and put the latest browser on it. I have about 25 super small virtual machines this way for testing. I run them on VMware fusion on my mac. Also check out Microsoft Expression, Ive never used it however Microsoft claims it has.versions of every IE including 8 build in for testing. Id be happy to share my VMs with anyone, there some rule about TinyXP ( I believe it's free if u ever bought a windows box, since it's really only good for browsers. I'd recommend staying awAy frome the hacked stand alone IE versions as the require extra DlLLs and I've noted small variences in the rendering. If you h Sent from my iPhoneyou have a mac you can have every bro 4, 2009, at 7:30 AM, Kenneth MacLean kmacl...@ic.net wrote: I've noticed that many of you are developing with IE 8. Is there a way to install IE 8 on your 'puter and still keep IE 7? Or do you have to use separate machines? __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] IE 8
You could either use Virtual PC http://www.microsoft.com/windows/virtual-pc/default.aspx and one of the free Internet Explorer Application Compatibility VPC Images http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=21EABB90-958F-4B64-B5F1-73D0A413C8EFdisplaylang=en or Multipe IE http://tredosoft.com/Multiple_IE. Michael Am 04.05.2009 um 15:30 schrieb Kenneth MacLean: I've noticed that many of you are developing with IE 8. Is there a way to install IE 8 on your 'puter and still keep IE 7? Or do you have to use separate machines? __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
[css-d] IE 8
I've noticed that many of you are developing with IE 8. Is there a way to install IE 8 on your 'puter and still keep IE 7? Or do you have to use separate machines? __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] IE 8
Kenneth MacLean schrieb: I've noticed that many of you are developing with IE 8. Is there a way to install IE 8 on your 'puter and still keep IE 7? Or do you have to use separate machines? __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ You could try IETester: http://www.my-debugbar.com/wiki/IETester/HomePage Best regards, Christian __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] IE 8
Michael Grosch schrieb: You could either use Virtual PC http://www.microsoft.com/windows/virtual-pc/default.aspx and one of the free Internet Explorer Application Compatibility VPC Images http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=21EABB90-958F-4B64-B5F1-73D0A413C8EFdisplaylang=en or Multipe IE http://tredosoft.com/Multiple_IE. Michael Am 04.05.2009 um 15:30 schrieb Kenneth MacLean: I've noticed that many of you are developing with IE 8. Is there a way to install IE 8 on your 'puter and still keep IE 7? Or do you have to use separate machines? __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ MultipleIE was cool, but doesn't run on Vista (in case you use Vista), plus: it doesn't contain IE 7, so if you upgrade from IE 7 to IE 8 and you use MultipleIE, you won't have IE 7. Aforementioned IETester is still in beta and might not be accurate when rendering for different IE versions. At least that was my experience. But it runs under Vista. ;) Best regards, Christian * * __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] IE 8
I Sent from my iPhone On May 4, 2009, at 6:57 AM, Christian Kirchhoff christian.kirchh...@editura.de wrote: Michael Grosch schrieb: You could either use Virtual PC http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ virtual-pc/default.aspx and one of the free Internet Explorer Application Compatibility VPC Images http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx? FamilyId=21EABB90-958F-4B64-B5F1-73D0A413C8EFdisplaylang=en or Multipe IE http://tredosoft.com/Multiple_IE. Michael Am 04.05.2009 um 15:30 schrieb Kenneth MacLean: I've noticed that many of you are developing with IE 8. Is there a way to install IE 8 on your 'puter and still keep IE 7? Or do you have to use separate machines? __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ MultipleIE was cool, but doesn't run on Vista (in case you use Vista), plus: it doesn't contain IE 7, so if you upgrade from IE 7 to IE 8 and you use MultipleIE, you won't have IE 7. Aforementioned IETester is still in beta and might not be accurate when rendering for different IE versions. At least that was my experience. But it runs under Vista. ;) Best regards, Christian * * __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] IE 8
I recommend staying away from multiple IE I can think of 20 instances where it will render different from a machine with the real thing. Virtualiin is free. Sent from my iPhone On May 4, 2009, at 6:57 AM, Christian Kirchhoff christian.kirchh...@editura.de wrote: Michael Grosch schrieb: You could either use Virtual PC http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ virtual-pc/default.aspx and one of the free Internet Explorer Application Compatibility VPC Images http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx? FamilyId=21EABB90-958F-4B64-B5F1-73D0A413C8EFdisplaylang=en or Multipe IE http://tredosoft.com/Multiple_IE. Michael Am 04.05.2009 um 15:30 schrieb Kenneth MacLean: I've noticed that many of you are developing with IE 8. Is there a way to install IE 8 on your 'puter and still keep IE 7? Or do you have to use separate machines? __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ MultipleIE was cool, but doesn't run on Vista (in case you use Vista), plus: it doesn't contain IE 7, so if you upgrade from IE 7 to IE 8 and you use MultipleIE, you won't have IE 7. Aforementioned IETester is still in beta and might not be accurate when rendering for different IE versions. At least that was my experience. But it runs under Vista. ;) Best regards, Christian * * __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] IE 8
On 05/05/2009, at 5:25 AM, Court Kizer wrote: I recommend staying away from multiple IE I can think of 20 instances where it will render different from a machine with the real thing. Virtualiin is free. I have asked for documented proofs of this before and so far have received none! Not even sample URL's. I would appreciate more details on those 20 instances. So far MultipleIE for ie 5, 5.5 and 6, with ie8 handling 7 (in compatability mode) and 8 appears to be working as well as (or as badly as) ie *ever* works. And MultipleIE is free too. KathyW. __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] IE 8
I would listen to the suggestion as is. The reasoning behind what Court said (whether or not there are 20 instances, could be more could be less) is because since it is software, you are introducing additional code than the base code for iE. There could be bugs in MultipleIE and it will result in IE appearing different than an actual real version. You can use vmware which, to my knowledge, has an edition that will allow you to install virtual machines onto your computer for free, please do not quote me on that though. This would be the best option because this way you are seeing it as every person using that version of IE on that specific version OS would see it. The only true way of cross browser testing would be ridiculously complex and would require having a virtual machine of every OS you want it to work on with every browser you want it to work on. If I were you, I would use browsershots to see what it looks like, it will display a lot more variations than you could on your machine. __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
