Re: [css-d] IETester vs. Real IE6: discrepancy
On 16/02/2010 3:19 PM, Brian M. Curran wrote: Just wanted to say thanks Georg. Italics were causing my float drop. I just replaced them with bold, which is not the best solution, but I do want the site to work in IE6. Why don't you use conditional comments for IE6 and leave italics for all the other browsers. !--[if lte IE 6] .italic {font-style:normal;font-weight:bold;} ![endif]-- -- Peter Abramowicz Arachne Web Designs 403.990.6016 www.arachne-design.com http://www.arachne-design.com __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] IETester vs. Real IE6: discrepancy
Peter Abramowicz wrote: Why don't you use conditional comments for IE6 and leave italics for all the other browsers. Agree, but a simple old-IE hack in the stylesheet will IMO be better... .italic {font-style: italic; font-weight: normal;} * html .italic {font-style:normal; font-weight:bold;} Mind the order. regards Georg __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] IETester vs. Real IE6: discrepancy
On 16/02/2010 3:19 PM, Brian M. Curran wrote: Just wanted to say thanks Georg. Italics were causing my float drop. I just replaced them with bold, which is not the best solution, but I do want the site to work in IE6. Did you try overflow:hidden on the container? This usually fixes that bug. -- Regards, Thierry www.tjkdesign.com | www.ez-css.org __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] IETester vs. Real IE6: discrepancy
On 16/02/2010 3:19 PM, Brian M. Curran wrote: Just wanted to say thanks Georg. Italics were causing my float drop. I just replaced them with bold, which is not the best solution, but I do want the site to work in IE6. Peter Abramowicz wrote: Why don't you use conditional comments for IE6 and leave italics for all the other browsers. G. Sørtun wrote: Agree, but a simple old-IE hack in the stylesheet will IMO be better... .italic {font-style: italic; font-weight: normal;} * html .italic {font-style:normal; font-weight:bold;} Mind the order. regards Georg Thierry Koblentz wrote: Did you try overflow:hidden on the container? This usually fixes that bug. -- Regards, Thierry www.tjkdesign.com | www.ez-css.org Great websites Thierry. They are very friendly to my eyes. ...No, I didn't try either what you wrote, or the other suggestions, because I didn't know about them! :-) Thanks for the leads. Maybe I can revisit this on my site. __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] IETester vs. Real IE6: discrepancy
Brian M. Curran wrote: Thank you. However, could you explain a bit more because I Googled auto-expansion bug and didn't find much, and my margins are set to: margin:0; . This is as good an explanation as any for that bug in IE6 and older... http://www.positioniseverything.net/explorer/expandingboxbug.html ...and although I didn't really check _why_ IE expands the box in your case, the italic bug is probably the cause... http://www.positioniseverything.net/explorer/italicbug-ie.html ...since there is at least one line in your page that ends in italic text. regards Georg Just wanted to say thanks Georg. Italics were causing my float drop. I just replaced them with bold, which is not the best solution, but I do want the site to work in IE6. __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
[css-d] IETester vs. Real IE6: discrepancy
Hello, In lieu of the real IE6 I use IETester from http://www.my-debugbar.com to test my code in IE6 and IE5, and I noticed something strange in doing so today. I tested my page http://www.draftingservices.com/building_survey.html in IETester and it showed my right column pushed down, as if I had an issue with my column widths. Then I booted up my other machine, on which I have the real IE6, and view the same page live on the internet and it showed no such issue. Comments?? Sincerely, Brian __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] IETester vs. Real IE6: discrepancy
Brian M. Curran wrote: I tested my page http://www.draftingservices.com/building_survey.html in IETester and it showed my right column pushed down, as if I had an issue with my column widths. Noticed that IE6, IETester and standalone dropped the right column when set to _normal_ or _larger_ font size, but lined it up correctly at _smaller_ font size. Might be a good idea to check for the IE6' auto-expansion bug, and maybe pull in, or at least zero out, the floats' backside margins - right side on #content and left side on #sideBar, to minimize the chance of that old IE bug causing float-drop. Those backside margins do no good in any browser anyway. regards Georg __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] IETester vs. Real IE6: discrepancy
Brian M. Curran wrote: I tested my page http://www.draftingservices.com/building_survey.html in IETester and it showed my right column pushed down, as if I had an issue with my column widths. Noticed that IE6, IETester and standalone dropped the right column when set to _normal_ or _larger_ font size, but lined it up correctly at _smaller_ font size. Might be a good idea to check for the IE6' auto-expansion bug, and maybe pull in, or at least zero out, the floats' backside margins - right side on #content and left side on #sideBar, to minimize the chance of that old IE bug causing float-drop. Those backside margins do no good in any browser anyway. regards Georg Georg, Thank you. However, could you explain a bit more because I Googled auto-expansion bug and didn't find much, and my margins are set to: margin:0; . -Brian __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] IETester vs. Real IE6: discrepancy
Brian M. Curran wrote: Thank you. However, could you explain a bit more because I Googled auto-expansion bug and didn't find much, and my margins are set to: margin:0; . This is as good an explanation as any for that bug in IE6 and older... http://www.positioniseverything.net/explorer/expandingboxbug.html ...and although I didn't really check _why_ IE expands the box in your case, the italic bug is probably the cause... http://www.positioniseverything.net/explorer/italicbug-ie.html ...since there is at least one line in your page that ends in italic text. regards Georg __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/