Re: [css-d] IETester vs. Real IE6: discrepancy

2010-02-18 Thread Peter Abramowicz
On 16/02/2010 3:19 PM, Brian M. Curran wrote:
 Just wanted to say thanks Georg. Italics were causing my float drop. I just
 replaced them with bold, which is not the best solution, but I do want the
 site to work in IE6.

Why don't  you use conditional comments for IE6 and leave italics for 
all the other browsers.
!--[if lte IE 6]
 .italic {font-style:normal;font-weight:bold;}
![endif]--

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Re: [css-d] IETester vs. Real IE6: discrepancy

2010-02-18 Thread G. Sørtun
Peter Abramowicz wrote:
  Why don't  you use conditional comments for IE6 and leave italics for
  all the other browsers.

Agree, but a simple old-IE hack in the stylesheet will IMO be better...

.italic {font-style: italic; font-weight: normal;}
* html .italic {font-style:normal; font-weight:bold;}

Mind the order.

regards
   Georg
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Re: [css-d] IETester vs. Real IE6: discrepancy

2010-02-18 Thread Thierry Koblentz
 On 16/02/2010 3:19 PM, Brian M. Curran wrote:
  Just wanted to say thanks Georg. Italics were causing my float drop.
 I just
  replaced them with bold, which is not the best solution, but I do
 want the
  site to work in IE6.

Did you try overflow:hidden on the container? 
This usually fixes that bug.


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Re: [css-d] IETester vs. Real IE6: discrepancy

2010-02-18 Thread Brian M. Curran
 On 16/02/2010 3:19 PM, Brian M. Curran wrote:
  Just wanted to say thanks Georg. Italics were causing my float drop.
 I just
  replaced them with bold, which is not the best solution, but I do
 want the
  site to work in IE6.



 Peter Abramowicz wrote:
  Why don't  you use conditional comments for IE6 and leave italics for
  all the other browsers.



 G. Sørtun wrote:
 Agree, but a simple old-IE hack in the stylesheet will IMO be better...

 .italic {font-style: italic; font-weight: normal;}
 * html .italic {font-style:normal; font-weight:bold;}

 Mind the order.

 regards
   Georg



 Thierry Koblentz wrote:
 Did you try overflow:hidden on the container?
 This usually fixes that bug.


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 Regards,
 Thierry
 www.tjkdesign.com | www.ez-css.org


Great websites Thierry. They are very friendly to my eyes. ...No, I didn't 
try either what you wrote, or the other suggestions, because I didn't know 
about them! :-) Thanks for the leads. Maybe I can revisit this on my site. 

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Re: [css-d] IETester vs. Real IE6: discrepancy

2010-02-16 Thread Brian M. Curran
 Brian M. Curran wrote:
  Thank you. However, could you explain a bit more because I Googled
  auto-expansion bug and didn't find much, and my margins are set to:
  margin:0; .



 This is as good an explanation as any for that bug in IE6 and older...
 http://www.positioniseverything.net/explorer/expandingboxbug.html
 ...and although I didn't really check _why_ IE expands the box in your 
 case, the italic bug is probably the cause...
 http://www.positioniseverything.net/explorer/italicbug-ie.html
 ...since there is at least one line in your page that ends in italic text.

 regards
   Georg


Just wanted to say thanks Georg. Italics were causing my float drop. I just 
replaced them with bold, which is not the best solution, but I do want the 
site to work in IE6. 

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[css-d] IETester vs. Real IE6: discrepancy

2010-02-11 Thread Brian M. Curran
Hello,
In lieu of the real IE6 I use IETester from http://www.my-debugbar.com to test 
my code in IE6 and IE5, and I noticed something strange in doing so today. I 
tested my page http://www.draftingservices.com/building_survey.html in IETester 
and it showed my right column pushed down, as if I had an issue with my column 
widths. Then I booted up my other machine, on which I have the real IE6, and 
view the same page live on the internet and it showed no such issue. 

Comments??

Sincerely,
Brian
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Re: [css-d] IETester vs. Real IE6: discrepancy

2010-02-11 Thread G. Sørtun
Brian M. Curran wrote:
  I tested my page http://www.draftingservices.com/building_survey.html
  in IETester and it showed my right column pushed down, as if I had an
  issue with my column widths.

Noticed that IE6, IETester and standalone dropped the right column when 
set to _normal_ or _larger_ font size, but lined it up correctly at 
_smaller_ font size.

Might be a good idea to check for the IE6' auto-expansion bug, and 
maybe pull in, or at least zero out, the floats' backside margins - 
right side on #content and left side on #sideBar, to minimize the chance 
of that old IE bug causing float-drop. Those backside margins do no good 
in any browser anyway.

regards
   Georg
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Re: [css-d] IETester vs. Real IE6: discrepancy

2010-02-11 Thread Brian M. Curran
 Brian M. Curran wrote:
  I tested my page http://www.draftingservices.com/building_survey.html
  in IETester and it showed my right column pushed down, as if I had an
  issue with my column widths.



 Noticed that IE6, IETester and standalone dropped the right column when
 set to _normal_ or _larger_ font size, but lined it up correctly at
 _smaller_ font size.

 Might be a good idea to check for the IE6' auto-expansion bug, and
 maybe pull in, or at least zero out, the floats' backside margins -
 right side on #content and left side on #sideBar, to minimize the chance
 of that old IE bug causing float-drop. Those backside margins do no good
 in any browser anyway.

 regards
   Georg


Georg,
Thank you. However, could you explain a bit more because I Googled 
auto-expansion bug and didn't find much, and my margins are set to: 
margin:0; .
-Brian 

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Re: [css-d] IETester vs. Real IE6: discrepancy

2010-02-11 Thread G. Sørtun
Brian M. Curran wrote:
  Thank you. However, could you explain a bit more because I Googled
  auto-expansion bug and didn't find much, and my margins are set to:
  margin:0; .

This is as good an explanation as any for that bug in IE6 and older...
http://www.positioniseverything.net/explorer/expandingboxbug.html
...and although I didn't really check _why_ IE expands the box in your 
case, the italic bug is probably the cause...
http://www.positioniseverything.net/explorer/italicbug-ie.html
...since there is at least one line in your page that ends in italic text.

regards
   Georg
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