Re: [css-d] Problem in IE

2011-02-15 Thread Gates, Jeff
On 2/14/11 8:39 AM, Gates, Jeff wrote:
 I'm in the middle of developing a website and have just made a change
 to the CSS, making the header a light shade of gray to contrast it to
 the content area below (it was white). It's showing up correctly in
 Firefox but, of course, something is amiss in IE (I'm looking at it
 in IE7).

 A link to a typical page is:
 http://americanartinvites.com/omeka/features The link to the style
 sheet is:
 http://americanartinvites.com/omeka/themes/fromscratch/css/screen.css


On 2/14/11 7:19 PM, David Hucklesby huckle...@gmail.com wrote:
Even more problems in IE 6... :)
The search FIELDSET expands in that browser-- I suggest replacing the
FIELDSET with a DIV to get it working cross-browser (unless someone else
has a better solution...)

I put these rules at the end of the screen.css as overrides. They fixed
the problems my end. Hope they help:

/* fix IE6 expanding width bug */
#wrap {overflow-x: hidden;}

/* width on #content makes it enclose floated content in IE 6  7
 - you may like to add overflow: hidden; to do the same in real
browsers */
#content {background: transparent;}

/* fix doubled margin bug in IE 6 */
#search-wrap {display: inline;}

/* margin-top pokes thru container in old IE */
#primary-nav {
   background: #ddd url(bg.gif) repeat-x bottom;
   margin-top: 0;
   padding-top: 10px;
}

BTW - Why do you link to a stylesheet in the middle of the BODY content?
--
Cordially,
David


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David, thanks for your response. That did the trick and I am grateful for your 
help. If there is a primer somewhere that addresses css issues with IE that you 
would recommend I'd love to know since I need to get up to speed on the issues 
inherent in developing in older versions of IE.

Your question about why I put a stylesheet link into the body is a fair and 
good one. This site is being developed in a CMS that has a header include (the 
CMS is Omeka, which is being developed for museums, but its structure is 
similar to many WordPress themes with header includes). That particular link 
gives each section of the site a different color band at the top and bottom of 
the page. I didn't know how to parse out each section other than to put that 
link within the body, given that they all use the same header. If you have 
suggestions, I would love to hear them. I didn't feel comfortable doing it that 
way.

Best, Jeff
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[css-d] Problem in IE

2011-02-14 Thread Gates, Jeff
I'm in the middle of developing a website and have just made a change to the 
CSS, making the header a light shade of gray to contrast it to the content area 
below (it was white). It's showing up correctly in Firefox but, of course, 
something is amiss in IE (I'm looking at it in IE7).

A link to a typical page is: http://americanartinvites.com/omeka/features
The link to the style sheet is: 
http://americanartinvites.com/omeka/themes/fromscratch/css/screen.css

Any help in rectifying this would be appreciated. Thanks.

Jeff
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Re: [css-d] Problem in IE

2011-02-14 Thread David Hucklesby

On 2/14/11 8:39 AM, Gates, Jeff wrote:

I'm in the middle of developing a website and have just made a change
to the CSS, making the header a light shade of gray to contrast it to
the content area below (it was white). It's showing up correctly in
Firefox but, of course, something is amiss in IE (I'm looking at it
in IE7).

A link to a typical page is:
http://americanartinvites.com/omeka/features The link to the style
sheet is:
http://americanartinvites.com/omeka/themes/fromscratch/css/screen.css




Even more problems in IE 6... :)
The search FIELDSET expands in that browser-- I suggest replacing the 
FIELDSET with a DIV to get it working cross-browser (unless someone else 
has a better solution...)


I put these rules at the end of the screen.css as overrides. They fixed 
the problems my end. Hope they help:


/* fix IE6 expanding width bug */
#wrap {overflow-x: hidden;}

/* width on #content makes it enclose floated content in IE 6  7
- you may like to add overflow: hidden; to do the same in real 
browsers */

#content {background: transparent;}

/* fix doubled margin bug in IE 6 */
#search-wrap {display: inline;}

/* margin-top pokes thru container in old IE */
#primary-nav {
  background: #ddd url(bg.gif) repeat-x bottom;
  margin-top: 0;
  padding-top: 10px;
}

BTW - Why do you link to a stylesheet in the middle of the BODY content?
--
Cordially,
David
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[css-d] Problem with IE 7 and transparency

2008-09-04 Thread Jason Pruim
Hi Everyone,

So I am running into one of my first Conditional comment issues... I  
haven't had to work with it to this degree before so I'm a little lost  
and looking for some help.

The website is: 
http://www.raoset.com/dev/schreurprinting.com/p.php?purl=cssd-test

The problem is the logo, it's using some transparency effects so I  
have the following code:

!--[if lte IE 6]!--
.noshow {display:none;}
!--![endif]--
.floatright {float:right;}
.floatleft {float:left;}
/style


body
div class=wrapper
h1 id=bannerWelcome {$row['FName']}/h1

div class=text


!--[if lte IE 6]!--

div style=position:relative; height: 105px; width: 206px;  
filter:progid:DXImageTransform.Microsoft.AlphaImageLoader 
(src='http://www.raoset.com/dev/schreurprinting.com/media/spc.logo.new.png',sizingMethod='scale')
 
;
!--![endif]--
img class=noshow 
src=http://www.raoset.com/dev/schreurprinting.com/media/spc.logo.new.png 
 width=250px height=auto/div

/body

Obviously not the entire page... but the problem I'm running into is  
from IE 7... It is not displaying the image as it does in safari, or  
firefox. If you go to the test page, I think you'll see what I mean..  
If not, I'll try and explain better.

Anyone have a clue how to fix it?

Thanks for looking!


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Re: [css-d] Problem with IE 7 and transparency

2008-09-04 Thread Jason Pruim

On Sep 4, 2008, at 12:52 PM, Jason Pruim wrote:

 Hi Everyone,

 So I am running into one of my first Conditional comment issues... I
 haven't had to work with it to this degree before so I'm a little lost
 and looking for some help.

 The website is: 
 http://www.raoset.com/dev/schreurprinting.com/p.php?purl=cssd-test

 The problem is the logo, it's using some transparency effects so I
 have the following code:

 !--[if lte IE 6]!--
   .noshow {display:none;}
   !--![endif]--
   .floatright {float:right;}
   .floatleft {float:left;}
   /style
   
   
   body
   div class=wrapper
   h1 id=bannerWelcome {$row['FName']}/h1
   
   div class=text
   
   
   !--[if lte IE 6]!--
   
   div style=position:relative; height: 105px; width: 206px;
 filter:progid:DXImageTransform.Microsoft.AlphaImageLoader 
 (src='http://www.raoset.com/dev/schreurprinting.com/media/spc.logo.new.png',sizingMethod='scale')
 ;
   !--![endif]--
   img class=noshow 
 src=http://www.raoset.com/dev/schreurprinting.com/media/spc.logo.new.png
  width=250px height=auto/div

 /body

 Obviously not the entire page... but the problem I'm running into is
 from IE 7... It is not displaying the image as it does in safari, or
 firefox. If you go to the test page, I think you'll see what I mean..
 If not, I'll try and explain better.

 Anyone have a clue how to fix it?

 Thanks for looking!


Just after I sent this message I realized something I hadn't tried...  
So I tried it and now the logo displays, but there is a line at the  
top of the logo that is not supposed to be there... I think the  
problem comes from it displaying both the conditional comment image  
and the original image... Could that be?


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Re: [css-d] Problem with IE 7 and transparency

2008-09-04 Thread David Laakso
Jason Pruim wrote:
 On Sep 4, 2008, at 12:52 PM, Jason Pruim wrote:

   
 The website is: 
 http://www.raoset.com/dev/schreurprinting.com/p.php?purl=cssd-test



 Anyone have a clue how to fix it?


 

 Jason Pruim
   


The IEs are not recovering from all the markup errors, css errors, 
different sizes for the same image, and the malformed cc's. Correcting 
all brings it up in 6  7 with the dashed border at the top of the image 
no longer there.

Start by running the file through Tidy online to correct the markup. 
Correct remaining html errors manually. Then on to the other issues above...

aside:
Most folks, if they are anything like me, are not going to hang around 
on that page while it struggles to load the images.

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Re: [css-d] Problem with IE 7 and transparency

2008-09-04 Thread Keith DiSarno
I would tend to agree with David on the loading part. I clicked the link
right after loading this email, read the entire conversation, went to your
link, and had an additional ~20 sec. wait for the beans. Probably a minute
total...just for the beans :)  Figured you should know, maybe something to
look into.

Keith D.
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Re: [css-d] Problem with IE 7 and transparency

2008-09-04 Thread Jason Pruim

On Sep 4, 2008, at 3:19 PM, Keith DiSarno wrote:

 I would tend to agree with David on the loading part. I clicked the  
 link right after loading this email, read the entire conversation,  
 went to your link, and had an additional ~20 sec. wait for the  
 beans. Probably a minute total...just for the beans :)  Figured you  
 should know, maybe something to look into.

 Keith D.

Once the design is finalized (I'm working with the designer at my new  
job) it will load much better and faster :)

I need to get better at running my stuff through the validators... and  
I apologize. I will work on that here shortly.

Thanks!



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[css-d] Problem with IE

2008-03-12 Thread Earth Pedal Design

I am having a problem with IE.  Take a look:
http://www.pnma.org/beta_index.htm

Looks good with other browsers

Help!

John

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Re: [css-d] problem with IE 6 Double Margin Bug?

2008-01-15 Thread Jason Pruim
Gunlaug,

As always your help is amazing! Thank you. And also, Thank you to all  
who have helped me along the way to get down to the point, where I  
only had 3 bugs left to fix! :)

One question I did have though... I understand the .content {display:  
inline;} and the leftColumn {position: relative;} but what does the *  
html .wrapper {zoom: 1;} do exactly?

I put it up at the top of the css file, and it works, but is that the  
best place to put it? Or should it go somewhere else?

Thanks again Everyone!


On Jan 14, 2008, at 4:44 PM, Gunlaug Sørtun wrote:

 Jason Pruim wrote:
 I have done some searching about the double margin bug, and have
 tried to do Display: inline and margin-left: -80px;
 _margin-left-160px but neither wants to work. Do I have the right
 bug?

 HTTP://www.raoset.com

 Yes, you have the right bug, but you're targeting it on the wrong  
 element.

 There are also some other IE6 bugs involved.

 The addition of...

 .content {display: inline;}

 .leftColumn {position: relative;}

 * html .wrapper {zoom: 1;}

 ...will kill the right IE6 bugs on the right elements.

 regards
   Georg
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Re: [css-d] problem with IE 6 Double Margin Bug?

2008-01-15 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Jason Pruim wrote:

 One question I did have though... I understand the .content {display:
  inline;} and the leftColumn {position: relative;} but what does the 
 * html .wrapper {zoom: 1;} do exactly?

It's a 'hasLayout'[1] trigger, and in your case I found the non-valid
'zoom' to work best - alternative (valid) triggers tended to have
negative side-effects. I also had to use the '* html' hack to target IE6
(and below), to avoid conflicts with some of IE7' internal bug-fixes.

Without this 'hasLayout' trigger IE6 seemed to interpret .wrapper's
dimensions a bit unreliable - changed positions for .wrapper's children
when hovering links - which is a clear sign that IE6 couldn't determine
.wrapper's dimensions and relation to other elements.

Triggering 'hasLayout' means to lay out the area of .wrapper -
stiffen up IE6' backbone so it immediately interprets exactly how wide
.wrapper is, and where to position .wrapper's children relative to
.wrapper's edges. Result: stable rendering.

 I put it up at the top of the css file, and it works, but is that the
  best place to put it? Or should it go somewhere else?

Put it anywhere you like where IE6 can pick it up, as long as it is
complete - as I wrote it. The CSS validator will flag it as an error
anyway - unless it is hidden in a conditional comment or something to
that effect.

regards
Georg

[1]http://www.satzansatz.de/cssd/onhavinglayout.html
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Re: [css-d] problem with IE 6 Double Margin Bug?

2008-01-15 Thread Jason Pruim

On Jan 15, 2008, at 4:09 PM, Gunlaug Sørtun wrote:

 Jason Pruim wrote:

 One question I did have though... I understand the .content {display:
 inline;} and the leftColumn {position: relative;} but what does the
 * html .wrapper {zoom: 1;} do exactly?

 It's a 'hasLayout'[1] trigger, and in your case I found the non-valid
 'zoom' to work best - alternative (valid) triggers tended to have
 negative side-effects. I also had to use the '* html' hack to target  
 IE6
 (and below), to avoid conflicts with some of IE7' internal bug-fixes.

 Without this 'hasLayout' trigger IE6 seemed to interpret .wrapper's
 dimensions a bit unreliable - changed positions for .wrapper's  
 children
 when hovering links - which is a clear sign that IE6 couldn't  
 determine
 .wrapper's dimensions and relation to other elements.

 Triggering 'hasLayout' means to lay out the area of .wrapper -
 stiffen up IE6' backbone so it immediately interprets exactly how  
 wide
 .wrapper is, and where to position .wrapper's children relative to
 .wrapper's edges. Result: stable rendering.

Haven't had a chance to read all of that website yet, but thank you  
for it. It's an interesting read so far! It does bring up the question  
as to why exactly Microsoft feels they need to do that :) But I'm sure  
I can search the archives, and the web to find out lots of theories  
about that! :)

Thank you for taking the time to answer! Always appreciated!


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[css-d] problem with IE 6 Double Margin Bug?

2008-01-14 Thread Jason Pruim
Hi All :)

Recently it was pointed out to me, that I still have a few issues in  
regards to internet explorer on my site... I am on a quest to squash  
all those out so I don't have to worry about it. So here's my question:

I have done some searching about the double margin bug, and have tried  
to do Display: inline and margin-left: -80px; _margin-left-160px  
but neither wants to work. Do I have the right bug?

The website is here: HTTP://www.raoset.com
And the CSS: HTTP://www.raoset.com/media/css/main.css

Any help with this is greatly appreciated.

Thanks for looking!
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Re: [css-d] problem with IE 6 Double Margin Bug?

2008-01-14 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Jason Pruim wrote:
 I have done some searching about the double margin bug, and have 
 tried to do Display: inline and margin-left: -80px; 
 _margin-left-160px but neither wants to work. Do I have the right 
 bug?
 
 HTTP://www.raoset.com

Yes, you have the right bug, but you're targeting it on the wrong element.

There are also some other IE6 bugs involved.

The addition of...

.content {display: inline;}

.leftColumn {position: relative;}

* html .wrapper {zoom: 1;}

...will kill the right IE6 bugs on the right elements.

regards
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Re: [css-d] problem in ie, peekaboo problem ?

2007-09-11 Thread Bob Meetin - www.dottedi.biz
I did not get back into working the peekaboo problem, hopefully in the 
next day or so.  However, I ran into a similar gap problem with 
mootools/accordion.  I had to add a padding into my #vnav .accordion 
style something like:

#vnav .accordion {
padding: .1em 0em; /* OR */
padding: 1px 0px;
}

For IE. It seemed to require 'something'.  See a working example with 
style at:

http://www.dottedi.biz/codesamples/mootools/accordion_menu/index.php
http://www.dottedi.biz/codesamples/mootools/accordion_menu/stylesheet.css

-B

WenChen wrote:
 Hi

 The following page use prototype accordion effect, 
 it look fine in ff, but in ie it shows big space between each accordion
 header

 http://newped2.auckland.ac.nz/coursebuilder/11/publish/1/3.html

 Is it a peekaboo problem? 
 Any help you could offer would be really appreciated.

 Thanks in advance
 Wen



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Re: [css-d] problem in ie, peekaboo problem ?

2007-09-11 Thread Alan Gresley
WenChen wrote:

 Hi

 The following page use prototype accordion effect,
 it look fine in ff, but in ie it shows big space between each accordion
 header

 http://newped2.auckland.ac.nz/coursebuilder/11/publish/1/3.html

 Is it a peekaboo problem?
 Any help you could offer would be really appreciated.

 Thanks in advance
 Wen

Hi Wen

There doesn't seem to be any floats elements involved so I would that this is a 
peekaboo bug which involves missing content. What you have is a vertical space.

It took me quite a while to analyse what I had to look for. You made no note in 
your message that id=1_ was a line of javascript which I finally found it in 
the code after half and hour. well playing further i found the answer. Resize 
the viewpoint in IE to about 200px wide and watch the space above the content. 
What you will notice is a certain point, the space disappears. Scroll up the 
page and take a look at the Tasks | Resources links. Narrow the viewpoint 
slightly more and these links will drop. What do you see on the left of these 
links, a float containing your menu. Now widen the viewpoint enough so you can 
see the space above the content reappear and notice how this content within the 
accordion_content div is always below this float. Click on each of the 
accordion js thingy and notice that for each of these accordion_content div the 
content is always below the float. When I click on Final and then maximize the 
window, the content has no space above it, but now the content is only 100px 
wide. This does all send me buggy. Wen, what is this comment in the 
accordion.js about. Does the space disappear when this is removed.

WenChen made some tiny change to fix this.currentAccordion.scrollHeight 
this.currentAccordion.scrollWidth Problem

I don't understand javascript, but there could be something there maybe. Now 
after an hour of bug hunting I now move on to that float with the menu!

#navcontainer {
background-color: #FF;
width: 169px;
float: left;
margin-top: 10px;
}

Is the problem fixed if negative margins are added as such below.

#navcontainer {
background-color: #FF;
width: 169px;
float: left;
margin: 10px -500px -1000px 0;
}

This technique is removing floats [1]. I hope this helps.

BTW, this can been achieved just by xhtml and CSS [2], but it only works in 
Firefox and Mozilla and buggy in Opera.

[1] http://www.gunlaug.no/contents/wd_chaos_03.html

[2] http://css-class.com/test/accordian.htm

Kind Regards, Alan


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Re: [css-d] problem in ie, peekaboo problem ?

2007-09-11 Thread WenChen
On Tue, 2007-09-11 at 08:46 -0700, Alan Gresley wrote:
 
 #navcontainer {
 background-color: #FF;
 width: 169px;
 float: left;
 margin-top: 10px;
 }
 
 Is the problem fixed if negative margins are added as such below.
 
 #navcontainer {
 background-color: #FF;
 width: 169px;
 float: left;
 margin: 10px -500px -1000px 0;
 }
 
 This technique is removing floats [1]. I hope this helps. 
OMG...
This is so wonderful.
Yes the problem is solved now.
And I will add Alan your name in the contributors list in the future
when the tool go opensource.

Best wishes
WenChen 



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[css-d] problem in ie, peekaboo problem ?

2007-09-10 Thread WenChen
Hi

The following page use prototype accordion effect, 
it look fine in ff, but in ie it shows big space between each accordion
header

http://newped2.auckland.ac.nz/coursebuilder/11/publish/1/3.html

Is it a peekaboo problem? 
Any help you could offer would be really appreciated.

Thanks in advance
Wen



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Re: [css-d] problem with IE 6 and a border

2007-08-09 Thread Matthew Ohlman
JGardner wrote:
 I have a red border under the navigation bar which displays correctly in 
 Firefox, but in IE there is a gap between it and the navigation. 

 The other problem is another border issue, the gold border around the image 
 on the page (it is a rotating image) has a gap between the bottom of the 
 picture and the gold border - again only in IE.

 You can see the site/problem here http://www.wacochildrenstheatre.com/

   
Hi Jennifer:

If you add this declaration in your css:

img {
vertical-align: bottom;
}

It should take care of the problem.  IE is allowing space under your 
images for the descenders of elements.

Hope this helps,
Matthew
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[css-d] problem with IE 6 and a border

2007-08-09 Thread JGardner
Well, I here I am again with an IE problem.  It is really two problems.  

I have a red border under the navigation bar which displays correctly in 
Firefox, but in IE there is a gap between it and the navigation. 

The other problem is another border issue, the gold border around the image on 
the page (it is a rotating image) has a gap between the bottom of the picture 
and the gold border - again only in IE.

You can see the site/problem here http://www.wacochildrenstheatre.com/

Once again, any help would be greatly appreciated.  You all amaze with your 
expertise!!!

Thanks,
Jennifer




   

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Re: [css-d] problem with IE 6 and a border - solved

2007-08-09 Thread JGardner
Wow, that fixed it!  

Thank you Matthew - this group is truly amazing.

Jennifer

- Original Message 
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Subject: Re: [css-d] problem with IE 6 and a border

JGardner wrote:
 I have a red border under the navigation bar which displays correctly in 
 Firefox, but in IE there is a gap between it and the navigation. 

 The other problem is another border issue, the gold border around the image 
 on the page (it is a rotating image) has a gap between the bottom of the 
 picture and the gold border - again only in IE.

 You can see the site/problem here http://www.wacochildrenstheatre.com/

   
Hi Jennifer:

If you add this declaration in your css:

img {
vertical-align: bottom;
}

It should take care of the problem.  IE is allowing space under your 
images for the descenders of elements.

Hope this helps,
Matthew
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[css-d] Problem between IE 6 and Firefox - at end of my rope.... please help

2007-06-01 Thread Michael S. Kirkpatrick
I can't figure out why but in IE 6 my spacing looks different (more
space on LI). I've read (and tried) just about every hack related to
extra spaces on LI's in IE 6 but all to no avail. Here's my design -
can someone just point me in the right direction and I'll be happy to
figure out within the code on my own.

http://www.webjerks.com/
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Re: [css-d] Problem between IE 6 and Firefox - at end of my rope.... please help

2007-06-01 Thread Eystein Alnaes

 I can't figure out why but in IE 6 my spacing looks different (more

space on LI).

 http://www.webjerks.com/


Looks ok here. There's a slight difference, but nothing bad. A couple of
other issues though.
- Why are there images (which don't load anyway) in the list? Would make
more sense to use these in the css.
- And why use an ordered list when you hide the numbering and hardcode it?

Eystein

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Re: [css-d] Problem between IE 6 and Firefox - at end of my rope....please help

2007-06-01 Thread Sarah Atkinson
First off I don't see your problem. (I'm using IE7)
However I might suggest you don't use .png because I'm getting a weird
png error.
Also you might change the image to a background image for your li.
Basically define it in your CSS instead of your links.
Also what are the span tags for?

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ropeplease help

I can't figure out why but in IE 6 my spacing looks different (more
space on LI). I've read (and tried) just about every hack related to
extra spaces on LI's in IE 6 but all to no avail. Here's my design -
can someone just point me in the right direction and I'll be happy to
figure out within the code on my own.

http://www.webjerks.com/
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Re: [css-d] Problem between IE 6 and Firefox - at end of my rope.... please help

2007-06-01 Thread Lori Lay
Michael S. Kirkpatrick wrote:
 I can't figure out why but in IE 6 my spacing looks different (more
 space on LI). I've read (and tried) just about every hack related to
 extra spaces on LI's in IE 6 but all to no avail. Here's my design -
 can someone just point me in the right direction and I'll be happy to
 figure out within the code on my own.

 http://www.webjerks.com/

   
Your blk_button images don't seem to be on the server.  Also, as others 
have mentioned, I think you will get better results if you make them 
background images on the anchors or span elements.  That way the 
browsers won't be trying to make space for them and you should be able 
to control the spacing better.  Also, I would remove the absolute 
positioning from the span element and use margins to padding to get it 
into position.  The text is awfully hard to read and your visitors may 
want to bump up the font size to compensate.  Absolute positioning won't 
tolerate that very well.

Lori
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[css-d] problem with ie/firefox

2007-05-02 Thread Jennifer Gardner
Hello,

I am having a problem getting something to look good in both ie and firefox.  
If I fix the margin/padding to look correct in IE the gray background comes up 
behind the navigation into the header in firefox.  If I fix it in firefox, I 
get a white gap in between the navigation and the gray backgound underneath the 
navigation bar.  You can see it here:  
http://www.gns-abilene.com/index.htm  

Right now I have it set up to look correct in IE.  These are the only two 
browsers I have access to, so I am unsure of what happens in some of the other 
ones out there.

Here is the css that deals with that part of the site:

#container #homeRightContent #working {
float: right;

}

#container #homeLeftContent {
background-color: #ececec;
/*padding-top: 1em;*/

padding-left: 1.4em;
font-size:.85;
}

#container #homeLeftContent h1 {
padding: 1em 0 0 0;
}
#container #homeRightContent #working {
padding-left: 1.5em;
}
#container #homeLeftContent h2 {
padding-top: 0em;
}

I sure would appreciate some help - thank you in advance!!

Jennifer
 





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Re: [css-d] problem with ie/firefox

2007-05-02 Thread Mauricio Samy Silva
Hi Jennifer,
Do the following in your CSS:
1-) Get rid of margin-top:1em for #navigation;
2-) Add: #header map {margin-bottom:1em;}

Maurício Samy Silva
http://www.maujor.com/

 I am having a problem getting something to look good in both ie and 
 firefox.  If I fix the margin/padding to look correct in IE the gray 
 background comes up behind the navigation into the header in firefox.  If 
 I fix it in firefox, I get a white gap in between the navigation and the 
 gray backgound underneath the navigation bar.  You can see it here:
 http://www.gns-abilene.com/index.htm

 Right now I have it set up to look correct in IE.  These are the only two 
 browsers I have access to, so I am unsure of what happens in some of the 
 other ones out there.

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Re: [css-d] Problem with IE

2007-01-09 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Danielle Tilley wrote:
 Does anyone have any idea why on my sites homepage
 
 www.ponderosawebsolutions.com/OREND
 
 the div containing the logo and quote shows up in Firefox but not in 
 IE7.  I haven't checked any other browsers yet. 

IE needs a 'hasLayout'[1] trigger.
I suggest you add...
#content {height: 1%;}
...to fix IE's problem.

Opera 9.x and Safari 2.x render it like Firefox 2.x does.

Remark: you should also test with browser's font-resizing options, and 
improve the design so it can take a bit of stress.

regards
Georg

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[css-d] Problem with IE for Mac

2006-09-07 Thread JhnCaton
Dear css-discuss
I have a problem with the IE browser for Mac.
The page can be seen at:
http://www.sheldrake.org/homepage.html
which will eventually be the new index page for this website.
The page works ok on IE 6.0 for Windows, Firefox 1.0.1 and Safari 1.2 for 
Mac.
On IE for Mac the page structure breaks down, the fern image appears right of 
the Nav bar instead of below, and the navigation links don't work.
The problem seems to be associated with the css scripting for the nav bar 
(within head section of page). 
Help much appreciated.
John Caton.
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Re: [css-d] Problem with IE for Mac

2006-09-07 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh

On Sep 7, 2006, at 8:52 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have a problem with the IE browser for Mac.
 The page can be seen at:
 http://www.sheldrake.org/homepage.html
 which will eventually be the new index page for this website.
 The page works ok on IE 6.0 for Windows, Firefox 1.0.1 and Safari  
 1.2 for
 Mac

I would suggest as a first step to validate your html
http://validator.w3.org/detailed.html
your Doctype is on the 3rd line instead of the first one,...
(I tried to save your page locally, but my browser happily made a mess).

The clean up the comments in your css section. I saw a least one miss- 
nested comment there, under div#listmenu, you start a comment that is  
not closed.

Some browsers are quite relaxed on those things, IE Mac can be very  
picky.

If you still have problems with IE Mac, browse around this site:
http://www.l-c-n.com/IE5tests/

Philippe
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[css-d] problem with IE in 600x800 widths

2006-06-18 Thread erin
Hello all,

Could someone take a look at the browser cam screenshots David gave me
(thanks David!). If you go to the second page of results you'll see that
on a Windows computer with 800x600 resolution, using OS XP or 2000-Pro in
an IE browser, the body of the page gets shoved down below the nav images.

Does anyone have any idea WHY that only happens under those circumstances
and what I can do to fix it?

http://www.browsercam.com/public.aspx?proj_id=261744

Thanks!

Erin Spangler

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Could someone who has browser-cam check this page for me?
 http://www.hotfrenchbulldogs.com/regarding.html (or pick any page for
 that
 matter except the index page)
 Erin Spangler
 26 shots here:
 http://www.browsercam.com/public.aspx?proj_id=261744
 I did not wait for them to load.
 Best,
 ~dL
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Re: [css-d] problem with IE in 600x800 widths

2006-06-18 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Does anyone have any idea WHY that only happens under those
 circumstances and what I can do to fix it?

Cause: 3px bug moved on to container, added to width and getting
squeezed in IE.

One working solution, add...

#leftnav {margin-bottom: -1000px;}

...which makes #leftnav take up no space (as the browsers see it), so IE
have nothing to drop page-body below, and will keep it staying up there
regardless of window-width.

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[css-d] Problem with IE and strange blinking

2006-06-07 Thread Pedro Iturriaga
Hi All,
Somebody has some explanation to the strange effect in scrolls of Agenda 
and Noticias y Novedades, when you pass the cursor over the buttons of 
the right superior zone. Only I have seen it in IE.

Web is http://comarcajoven.com

Thanks in advance

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Re: [css-d] Problem with IE and strange blinking

2006-06-07 Thread Rainer Wagener
Hi Pedro,

 Somebody has some explanation to the strange effect in 
 scrolls of Agenda 
 and Noticias y Novedades, when you pass the cursor over 
 the buttons of 
 the right superior zone. Only I have seen it in IE.

You have to aply Layout to the container #menu_sup for IE.

Something like: #menu_sup { zoom:1 } 

Then it should work.

For theorie on this matter:
http://www.satzansatz.de/cssd/onhavinglayout.html

Regards Rainer

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Re: [css-d] Problem with IE and strange blinking

2006-06-07 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Pedro Iturriaga wrote:
 Hi All, Somebody has some explanation to the strange effect in 
 scrolls of Agenda and Noticias y Novedades, when you pass the cursor 
 over the buttons of the right superior zone. Only I have seen it in 
 IE.
 
 Web is http://comarcajoven.com

IE is recalculating and re-rendering the /entire/ layout on hover-action
in that section - every time. That causes the flicker.

You can prevent the flickering scrollbars by isolating #menu_sup from
the rest of the layout in IE only, by adding a 'hasLayout'[1] trigger.

Adding this should work...

#menu_sup {height: 100%;}

...and I have tested it for your page, just to be on the safe side :-)

regards
Georg

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[css-d] Problem with IE Double Margin Bug (I think?)

2006-06-05 Thread Erik Domingo
Hi all,

I seem to be having a problem with the IE double margin bug on floats. It's
only affecting this page:

http://roblin.bluelangroup.net/v4_Services.php

and only when viewed in IE6. Other pages on the site render fine in FF and
IE.

The CSS can be viewed at:

http://roblin.bluelangroup.net/master.css

I've tried adding the PIE fix of display:inline to the #wrap-inner,
#content, and #menu divs (there are my floats) individually, and in
combination with each other. Nothing seems to correct the problem.

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

- Erik Domingo

PS I left the display:inline set on the #content div; playing with
background colors seemed to point to that div as the one whose left-margin
is doubling (strange, since I thought the bug only affected margins on the
same side as the float...?)
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Re: [css-d] Problem with IE Double Margin Bug (I think?)

2006-06-05 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Erik Domingo wrote:
 I seem to be having a problem with the IE double margin bug on 
 floats. It's only affecting this page:
 
 http://roblin.bluelangroup.net/v4_Services.php
 
 and only when viewed in IE6. Other pages on the site render fine in 
 FF and IE.

The IE double margin on floats bug isn't the problem.

Firefox handles table align=center ...  different from IE (and
Opera), so if Firefox gives you the correct look, you'll have to wrap
that table in a non-float - /not/ a 'float: right'.


This is all you need on the #content container...

#content {
margin-left: 200px;
border-left: 1px solid black;
}

...to make IE6 (and Opera) render the page exactly like Firefox does.

---

I have no idea whether the following is exactly how that table-centering
in a float is handled in these browsers, but this is what it appears like:

- Floats without defined width will shrink-wrap, but Firefox won't let
that happen because the 'align=center' on the table creates equal
margins on both sides that are pushing outwards as far as possible in
order to center the table.

- IE6 (and Opera) seems to shrink-wrap the float first, so there are
no space, or need, for margins to center the table.

The result: two different outcomes from table-centering in a width-less
float. No width-less float = no visible differences.

regards
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[css-d] Problem With IE

2006-05-10 Thread Ken Webster
Hello,
I am relatively new to CSS I thought I would give it a go on a design  
and the design looks fine in every browser except IE.

The site is at http://www.soihost.com/second/
The CSS is at http://www.soihost.com/second/screenstyle.css

I have validated and spent the last 2 days trying to find a answer on  
Google with no luck.

Thanks for any help!

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Re: [css-d] Problem With IE

2006-05-10 Thread Greg Maruszeczka
Ken Webster wrote:
 Hello,
 I am relatively new to CSS I thought I would give it a go on a design  
 and the design looks fine in every browser except IE.
 
 The site is at http://www.soihost.com/second/
 The CSS is at http://www.soihost.com/second/screenstyle.css
 
 I have validated and spent the last 2 days trying to find a answer on  
 Google with no luck.
 

Drop the (optional) xml declaration -- it throws IE into Quirks Mode.
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[css-d] Problem With IE

2006-05-10 Thread Sebastian Dammark
Try with this style for your menulist:
ul.navbar {
width : 100%;
margin : 0;
padding : 0;
background-color : #89d60e;
}

.navbar li {
float: left;
list-style:none;
width: 20%;
}

And the set the width of .titleBox top 98%

// Sebastian Dammark
www.dammark.net
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[css-d] Problem with IE showing text

2006-05-03 Thread Brian Jones
Hi,

When I view my page Internet Explorer is not displaying the text right
away. I have to highlight the text or scroll the page for the text to
be show and sometimes after that it disappears again.  The text
displays fine with Firefox...so it's not a font color issue like I
first thought. Does anyone know what this issue is?...is a CSS issue
or what?...I never had this happen before so I'm clueless
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Re: [css-d] Problem with IE showing text

2006-05-03 Thread francky
Brian Jones wrote:

Hi,

When I view my page Internet Explorer is not displaying the text right
away. I have to highlight the text or scroll the page for the text to
be show and sometimes after that it disappears again.  The text
displays fine with Firefox...so it's not a font color issue like I
first thought. Does anyone know what this issue is?...is a CSS issue
or what?...I never had this happen before so I'm clueless
  

Hi Brian,
IE has different kinds of bugs causing not showing or jumping away, so 
it is difficult to say what in your case will be the reason. Or maybe it 
is a small typo in your code that makes IE go away. - Do you have a link 
to your page?

Greetings,
francky


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[css-d] Problem with IE and print stylesheet

2006-03-27 Thread Averill Ring at Irisweb.net
I'm experiencing difficulties with my print stylesheet for
www.iriswebtest.net/ter/THE SITE/services/.

This is the first time I've done a print stylesheet so I'm kinda groping 
in the dark.

It's working fine in Firefox but in IE6 it wants a page that is probably 
10 inches wide, so it's not honoring my hoped-for right margin.  Plus 
it's ignoring my h1 h2 h3 size declarations

The CSS is embedded in the document.

Any help will be greatly appreciated.

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Re: [css-d] Problem with IE

2006-02-12 Thread Ingo Chao
Alan Chandler wrote:
 However, it is still not exactly right.  The black band with the title in it 
 should more or less (I think there is a couple of pixels out at the moment) 
 line up with the top of the logo picture).  On IE it seem to be about the 
 third the way down the logo picture.

zero the default margin-top of the h1

-if that's possible in the Tapestry Framework ;)

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Re: [css-d] Problem with IE

2006-02-12 Thread Alan Chandler
On Sunday 12 February 2006 10:29, Ingo Chao wrote:
 Alan Chandler wrote:
  However, it is still not exactly right.  The black band with the title in
  it should more or less (I think there is a couple of pixels out at the
  moment) line up with the top of the logo picture).  On IE it seem to be
  about the third the way down the logo picture.

 zero the default margin-top of the h1

It works thanks, but I don't understand why margin-top was ever non zero.  My 
css guides say its default value is zero and its not inherited.


 -if that's possible in the Tapestry Framework ;)

Almost everything is possible, some things take more time than others :-)

But the CSS is all mine, I have a standardardized border component that takes 
a application level parameter of the url for the site CSS and another one, if 
I want, for each page and writes them into the header.

Its my brain that gets fried, trying to follow all the problems browser 
differences occurs.  Its made worse by the fact that I use Konqueror as my 
standard browser, which almost nobody takes account of and which 
occassionally does some strange things.

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Re: [css-d] Problem with IE

2006-02-12 Thread Ingo Chao
Alan Chandler wrote:
 On Sunday 12 February 2006 10:29, Ingo Chao wrote:
 zero the default margin-top of the h1
 
 It works thanks, but I don't understand why margin-top was ever non zero.  My 
 css guides say its default value is zero and its not inherited.

Browser defaults are different, and, to complicate things, the 
implementation of margin-collapsing is buggy in IE.

Some set all to zero and build up upon:

* {margin:0; padding:0}

 Its my brain that gets fried, trying to follow all the problems browser 
 differences occurs.  Its made worse by the fact that I use Konqueror as my 
 standard browser, which almost nobody takes account of and which 
 occassionally does some strange things.

You are right, it's boring to speak about the state of bug decay in 
different IE versions like in a self-help group again and again, and it 
would be fun to discuss more fresh stuff about Konqueror and Safari here.

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Re: [css-d] Problem with IE

2006-02-11 Thread Alan Chandler
On Saturday 11 February 2006 07:52, Alan Chandler wrote:
 On Saturday 11 February 2006 02:42, ilduca69 wrote:

  http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%
  2Fwww.chandlerfamily.org.uk%2Fcharset=%28detect+automatically%
  29doctype=Inlineverbose=1

 I agree that the validator seems to fail quite a lot.  

OK - I managed to almost fix up the page so the validator works, mainly by 
defining the DOCTYPE an xhtml.  There is one warning which will take some 
more work, but is not related to this.

Now, I'll ask the question again .  My web page, at the url below will not 
display properly in IE.  The div with id=header is being expanded 
vertically to match the height of the floated image, whereas I want to to 
stay at the height of the text plus padding, as it does in Firefox.

I have been unable to find what quirk it is that causes this, and therefore 
not find a way around it.  Can anyone help.
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Re: [css-d] Problem with IE

2006-02-11 Thread Jim Nannery
Alan

You wrote

 Now, I'll ask the question again .  My web page, at the url below will not
 display properly in IE.  The div with id=header is being expanded
 vertically to match the height of the floated image, whereas I want to to
 stay at the height of the text plus padding, as it does in Firefox.

 I have been unable to find what quirk it is that causes this, and 
 therefore
 not find a way around it.  Can anyone help.

The *quirk* in your page is the you have triggered IE's Quirks [1] mode. 
You have placed two comments ahead of the XHTML Doctype Declaration.  Moving 
those bits below the Doctype  in the head of your document will trigger IE's 
Standards Mode.[2]  Any code or comments ( including an XHTML prologue) 
appearing before the XHTML Doctype will cause IE 6 to switch.  This 
condition should be fixed in IE7.

Getting IE 6 in Standards mode should make it render more like FireFox.

[1] http://www.quirksmode.org/css/quirksmode.html
[2] http://www.alistapart.com/stories/doctype/

Hope this helps...

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Re: [css-d] Problem with IE

2006-02-11 Thread Ingo Chao
Alan Chandler wrote:
 OK - I managed to almost fix up the page so the validator works, mainly by 
 defining the DOCTYPE an xhtml.  There is one warning which will take some 
 more work, but is not related to this.
 
 Now, I'll ask the question again .  

Thanks for validating; it makes debugging easier, and it's not an end in 
itself.


My web page, at the url below will not
 display properly in IE.  The div with id=header is being expanded 
 vertically to match the height of the floated image, whereas I want to to 
 stay at the height of the text plus padding, as it does in Firefox.
 
 I have been unable to find what quirk it is that causes this, and therefore 
 not find a way around it.  
 http://www.chandlerfamily.org.uk


You are throwing comments in before the doctype; therefore, IE7b2 and 
IE6 are rendering the page in quirks mode.

I mention this because the fix below will /not/ work in quirks mode.

Your CSS

   #header { ... width: 800px; }

gives 'layout' to the header [1]. Having layout, the header will expand 
to contain the floating img.

   #header img { ... float: left; }


In standards mode, IE7 would respect a given height - let's say, 50px -

   #header { ... width: 800px; height: 50px; }

Without this explicit height, even in 'more standards' mode, IE7 
unfortunately still expands the header to contain the float because of 
the mentioned 'layout' issue.
That's it for IE7b2.

IE6 needs a restriction to prevent the expanding:

   #header { ... width: 800px; height: 50px; overflow:hidden;}

Now the height is respected, but the image is cut. So

   #header img { .. float: left; position:relative;}

is needed to let the float stick out of the header.

This does not work in quirks mode, and this does not work in IE5.5 or below.

Other browsers shouldn't see this quirky stuff, so the head section 
needs a conditional comment 'less than or equal to' IE7

   !--[if lte IE7]
   link rel=stylesheet href=iefix.css type=text/css /
   ![endif]--


and iefix.css says

   #header { height: 50px; }

   #header { _overfl\ow: hidden;} /* only IE6, because the underscore 
excludes IE7 and the escape excludes IE5.5 */

   #header img { _position:relative;} /* lte IE6 */


But I see, this path full of hacks. An alternative path would be to 
change the condition that IE tries to contain the float at all.
Back to the first step:

   #header { ... width: 800px; }

Can't your design do without this width?

Ingo

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Re: [css-d] Problem with IE

2006-02-11 Thread Alan Chandler
On Saturday 11 February 2006 20:33, Ingo Chao wrote:

 But I see, this path full of hacks. An alternative path would be to
 change the condition that IE tries to contain the float at all.
 Back to the first step:

#header { ... width: 800px; }

 Can't your design do without this width?

I don't think its needed, so I took it out.   Indeed, I would have difficulty 
following the other path exactly, because much of the page header stuff is 
generated by the Tapestry Framework that I am using and it would be quite 
difficult (although not impossible) to figure out how to get it to render the 
conditional stuff).

Now at least I get some semblance of what I want with IE6 (only one tried - I 
run a linux desktop, so have to go bother my wife ot have a look).

However, it is still not exactly right.  The black band with the title in it 
should more or less (I think there is a couple of pixels out at the moment) 
line up with the top of the logo picture).  On IE it seem to be about the 
third the way down the logo picture.

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Re: [css-d] problem in ie 6.x windows with image

2006-02-10 Thread jono

 Hi all,

 I am trying to place a single image in a footer such that it will overlap
 the top and bottom of the footer...

 url: http://baseballtriviaquiz.com/virgil/history.html
 css: is contained within the page (I will remove it later)


I think you might be better off moving the tree image to the footer div as
a background image.  You could have the tree, the light green and the
darker green bottom border combined into one very wide (depending on your
layout's width settings) image that would then be applied to the footer
div, positioned to the bottom left of the footer div.

#footer {
margin: 0 17px 1.0em 0;
padding: 0;
background: #c6d28a url(long-footer-bg.gif) no-repeat bottom left;
height: 25px;
}

Attempted diagram of iamge below.

xx
   xx xx
   xx xx
 x
 x
xx
xx   x
xx   this is the no-repeat very long bg image w/ treex
xx   x
XX
 x

  - - OR - -

You could also try positioning the tree absolutely (instead of relative)
so that it is taken out of the document's normal flow, thus, not affecting
the footer's layout.  I think the background image option is easier, and
more stable cross-borwser.  I'm sure others will have excellent ideas too.

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[css-d] Problem with IE

2006-02-10 Thread Alan Chandler
I have a problem on my personal web site (see url in my signature).  There is 
an image and some text inside a div.

div id=header
img src=/images/logo.gif/imgh1Chandler's Zen/h1
/div

The div itself has a background image which is repeated in the y-direction, 
the image is floated left.  On firefox (and Konqueror) the height of this 
image is what I want, the depth of the heading text and its padding.  A 
subsequent div (the menu) is designed to sit up to the right of the bottom 
element of the image.

On IE, the background image is stretched down the the height of the floated 
left image, forcing the menu down below the image.

I have searched around the net in search of any indication of what on IE is 
causing this problem and for a hack to get round it.  But I can't find one.  
Can someone here help me please with what to do.

Thanks.

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Re: [css-d] Problem with IE

2006-02-10 Thread ilduca69

Il giorno 10/feb/06, alle ore 23:19:22, Alan Chandler ha scritto:

 I have a problem on my personal web site (see url in my  
 signature).  There is
 an image and some text inside a div.

 div id=header
 img src=/images/logo.gif/imgh1Chandler's Zen/h1
 /div


http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F% 
2Fwww.chandlerfamily.org.uk%2Fcharset=%28detect+automatically% 
29doctype=Inlineverbose=1

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Re: [css-d] Problem with IE

2006-02-10 Thread Alan Chandler
On Saturday 11 February 2006 02:42, ilduca69 wrote:
 Il giorno 10/feb/06, alle ore 23:19:22, Alan Chandler ha scritto:
  I have a problem on my personal web site (see url in my
  signature).  There is
  an image and some text inside a div.
 
  div id=header
  img src=/images/logo.gif/imgh1Chandler's Zen/h1
  /div

 http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%
 2Fwww.chandlerfamily.org.uk%2Fcharset=%28detect+automatically%
 29doctype=Inlineverbose=1


I agree that the validator seems to fail quite a lot.  Most of the problem 
comes from closing the tags with a / inside the head

Unfortunately I am not sure what I can do about this, because I am using the 
Tapestry Framework to generate the page, and this part is generated by a 
standard component.

But, I guess my main question is - has this anything to do with the problem I 
am experiencing?


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[css-d] Problem in IE/WIN with borders

2006-02-09 Thread cindy Smeulders
Hi,

I'm a newbie and trying to learn CSS as i go along.
Tried to convert my website from tables to css, but have a problem in
Win/IE.
Other browers (Firefox(lin,mac), Opera(mac), IE(mac) don't show this
problem.

Used borders to have same lenght columns, tried several other systems (Faux
columns and overflow:hidden - padding) but they never suited my needs.

http://roundtheworld.homelinux.com

If you go the website the first time it all looks like it should. When you
do a refresh or try a link the borders are all screwed up.

I looks like it first displays the menus and then draw the border over it,
so you can't see the menu anymore.
The right menu is displaced to the center area and if you just go over it
(hover) with your mouse it sudenly all comes back like it should.
Go to the website again, by going to the adress bar en push enter (not
refreshing) all works again.

First idea was something to do with caching but nothing gave a sollution,
tried a few hacks and fooled around in the css and html code, but couldn't
come up with any solution.
It could be dirty code/fault/error, but no other browser has this problem.


Can somebody take a look at it PLEASE !!

(my deadline is coming up, leaving for the trip in less than 14 days, and
the site is everything but finished, put way too much time (intresting time
though) in the css convertion.)

Cindy
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Re: [css-d] Problem in IE/WIN with borders

2006-02-09 Thread Ingo Chao
cindy Smeulders wrote:
 
 http://roundtheworld.homelinux.com
 
 If you go the website the first time it all looks like it should. When you
 do a refresh or try a link the borders are all screwed up.
 I looks like it first displays the menus and then draw the border over it,
 so you can't see the menu anymore.


Confirmed. I can not reproduce it locally, though, and life editing in 
IEDomExplorer is not reliable in this case.

I'd try to play with the containing elements
#container, #inner

A position:relative for both

or

B position:static to both and zoom:1; to both

In the desperate case this should not work, mix A+B.

Please report back if it worked or not.


 (my deadline is coming up, leaving for the trip in less than 14 days, 

A Trans Siberian trip in winter?

Good luck!

Ingo

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Re: [css-d] problem in IE with subnav layout

2006-01-10 Thread CJ Larson
 The page:
 http://www.lullabot.com/node/18
 
 The problem in question is the secondary subnavigation layout. In IE,
 the background image only extends so far in IE, whereas in
 Firefox/everything else looks fine. See how, when correct, the li's
 are wide enough that they'll go past the left edge of the browser? Not
 happening in IE.

If you outline div elements in both FF and IE you'll see that FF sends
your navigation div all the way to the left, whereas IE does not.  Where
IE stops the white is exactly where the menu div ends.  Get that menu
div to extend left in IE and you'll be golden!
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Re: [css-d] problem in IE with subnav layout

2006-01-10 Thread John Haas
Well, if i outline the #secondary-nav div, i see in all browsers that 
the width of that div stays at 120px as defined in the css.  However, 
the difference is that the a breaks out of this parent div in 
FF/others, and is displayed running all the way left to the edge of the 
browser.  Not in IE. The a stays within the parent div (#secondary-nav).


Now, if i expand the width of the secondary-nav div to, say 500px, it 
extends rightwards, not leftwards (the desired effect).  Is it possible 
to get it to extend leftwards somehow?


Thanks, I really appreciate the help.

-John


CJ Larson wrote:


The page:
http://www.lullabot.com/node/18

The problem in question is the secondary subnavigation layout. In IE,
the background image only extends so far in IE, whereas in
Firefox/everything else looks fine. See how, when correct, the li's
are wide enough that they'll go past the left edge of the browser? Not
happening in IE.
   



If you outline div elements in both FF and IE you'll see that FF sends
your navigation div all the way to the left, whereas IE does not.  Where
IE stops the white is exactly where the menu div ends.  Get that menu
div to extend left in IE and you'll be golden!
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Re: [css-d] problem in IE with subnav layout

2006-01-10 Thread CJ Larson
 Well, if i outline the #secondary-nav div, i see in all browsers that
 the width of that div stays at 120px as defined in the css.  However,
 the difference is that the a breaks out of this parent div in
 FF/others, and is displayed running all the way left to the edge of
the
 browser.  Not in IE. The a stays within the parent div
(#secondary-nav).

This isn't what I'm seeing.  Using the CSS Editor in FF (web developer
toolbar extension) I go to outline custom elements and highlight div
and a.  Both are extending completely the left (in the naviation, not
content).

In IE (doing the same thing using the IE Developer Toolbar) the div is
restricted in size and does not go completely to the left.  However, the
a does.  The white is being stopped at the left edge of the navigation
div instead of running all the way to the left with the a.

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[css-d] problem in IE with subnav layout

2006-01-08 Thread John Haas

Hi folks...

The page:
http://www.lullabot.com/node/18

The problem in question is the secondary subnavigation layout. In IE, 
the background image only extends so far in IE, whereas in 
Firefox/everything else looks fine. See how, when correct, the li's 
are wide enough that they'll go past the left edge of the browser? Not 
happening in IE.


The site is centered, and the background image of the links in my subnav 
li's are set to display on a:hover.


I'd appreciate any help offered here, thanks!

The menu CSS:

.second #secondary-nav {
 position: absolute;
 top: 187px;
 left: 20px;
 margin: 0;
 padding: 0;
 width: 120px;
 font-size: .6875em; /* 11px */
}

.second #secondary-nav ul {
 list-style: none;
}

.second #secondary-nav ul li {
 list-style:none;
 margin: 0 0 .5em -500px;
}

.second #secondary-nav ul a {
 display: block;
 text-align: right;
 padding: 0 8px 0 9px;
 color: #394E81;
 text-decoration: none;
 line-height: 18px;
 white-space: nowrap;
}

.second #secondary-nav a.active {
 background-image: url('images/sl-whitebar.gif');
 background-position: center right;
 background-repeat: no-repeat;
 margin: 0 0 0 -800px;
}

.second #secondary-nav a:hover {
 text-decoration: underline;
}




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[css-d] problem with IE

2005-07-13 Thread Camilo Kawerín

Hi,

I have this page:

http://sportivoferroviario.com/index.php

The problem is in a group of div like this:

div id=news

div class=new/div
div class=new/div
div class=new/div
div class=advertiseimg src=banner.gif alt=banner/div

/div

#news {width:40em; }
#news div.new {float:left; width:20em; }
#news div.advertise img {width:20em; }

In Firefox I get the expected result:

http://sportivoferroviario.com/FF.jpg

But, in Internet Explorer 6, doesn´t:

http://sportivoferroviario.com/IE.jpg

Any help will be apreciatte,

Best regards
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[css-d] Problem with IE and background image

2005-07-11 Thread Lee Underwood

I am new on the list and need some help.

I have placed a fixed background image on my Web site at: 
http://www.shamar.org/emet/. It works fine in Firefox but not IE. 
However, I have a fixed image on another place on the Web site 
http://www.shamar.org/ that works fine in both Firefox and IE. The style 
sheets are loaded here:


for the site that doesn't work:
http://www.shamar.org/style/news.css

and for the site that does:
http://www.shamar.org/style/core-style.css

I am guessing it's something simple ... appreciate it.

Lee 


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[css-d] Problem with IE and background image

2005-07-10 Thread Lee Underwood

I am new on the list and need some help.

I have placed a fixed background image on my Web site at: 
http://www.shamar.org/emet/. It works fine in Firefox but not IE. 
However, I have a fixed image on another place on the Web site 
http://www.shamar.org/ that works fine in both Firefox and IE. The style 
sheets are loaded here:


for the site that doesn't work:
http://www.shamar.org/style/news.css

and for the site that does:
http://www.shamar.org/style/core-style.css

I am guessing it's something simple ... appreciate it.

Lee

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[css-d] Problem in IE with Height of Page and Hovering Links

2005-07-01 Thread tochiromifune

Hello,

I noticed something weird in IE6 with my page.  When I hover a link (the
link color changes and its background color as well), the page height is
reduced and part of the text is no more visible.

I applied a min-height to the container div in the form:

/* for understanding browsers */
.container {
min-height: 55em;
height: auto;
}
/* for Internet Explorer */
/*\*/
* html .container {
height: 55em;
}

and it solved the problem.  But is there a better workaround?

Thank you for your help.

Cheers

Chris

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