Re: [css-d] REPOST: layout falls apart in Netscape 7.x

[Philippe Wittenbergh]

I wrote earlier:

> Second issue: NN7 isn't seeing the style for your div#sidebar for
> some mysterious reason. I think there must be some hidden invalid
> character in your file, at the top of the file, but my text-editor
> refuses to show it.
> If I create a brand new file (home.css), then the stylerules for
> #sidebar are applied.

I was looking at the wrong side of the world... Blame the goldfish.
The file starts with an UTF-8 BOM,  which not invalid at all, but can/ 
does cause problems for older browsers such as IE 5 Mac and Netscape  
7.x.
Set your text-editor to save the file with the BOM to solve that  
problem.

Philippe
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Re: [css-d] REPOST: layout falls apart in Netscape 7.x

[david]

Philippe Wittenbergh wrote:
> On Jun 13, 2007, at 6:29 AM, Dova Wilson wrote:
> 
>> It is
>> validating and it looks OK in at least IE and Mozilla, but completely
>> falls apart in Netscape (tested versions 7.0 and 7.2).
>>
>>
>> HTML:
>> http://www.gwvirginia.gwu.edu/newsite/
>>
>> CSS:
>> http://www.gwvirginia.gwu.edu/newsite/styles/global.css
>> http://www.gwvirginia.gwu.edu/newsite/styles/home.css
> 
> First issue: NN7 doesn't like it that you set the width on 
> solution: wrap all your contents in a div, and set the width on that div
> div#wrapper {width: 738px; margin:auto;}
> 
> Second issue: NN7 isn't seeing the style for your div#sidebar for  
> some mysterious reason. I think there must be some hidden invalid  
> character in your file, at the top of the file, but my text-editor  
> refuses to show it.

Don't know about that, but the W3C CSS validator has no problems and 
reports the CSS is valid.

> If I create a brand new file (home.css), then the stylerules for  
> #sidebar are applied.

Could be one of the numerous bugs in NS7 that helped kill it off?

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Re: [css-d] REPOST: layout falls apart in Netscape 7.x

[Philippe Wittenbergh]

On Jun 13, 2007, at 6:29 AM, Dova Wilson wrote:

> It is
> validating and it looks OK in at least IE and Mozilla, but completely
> falls apart in Netscape (tested versions 7.0 and 7.2).
>
>
> HTML:
> http://www.gwvirginia.gwu.edu/newsite/
>
> CSS:
> http://www.gwvirginia.gwu.edu/newsite/styles/global.css
> http://www.gwvirginia.gwu.edu/newsite/styles/home.css

First issue: NN7 doesn't like it that you set the width on 
solution: wrap all your contents in a div, and set the width on that div
div#wrapper {width: 738px; margin:auto;}

Second issue: NN7 isn't seeing the style for your div#sidebar for  
some mysterious reason. I think there must be some hidden invalid  
character in your file, at the top of the file, but my text-editor  
refuses to show it.
If I create a brand new file (home.css), then the stylerules for  
#sidebar are applied.

Third issue: May I politely, but strongly, suggest that you drop that  
browser detection script. I first accessed your site with my home  
made Camino build (compiled 1 hour ago - with the latest code out of  
the Gecko tree). But your script tells me I need to update my browser  
- anything available for download is older than what I use.

If you absolutely need to do some browser detection, remember, Gecko  
is Gecko [1].

[1] 


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Re: [css-d] REPOST: layout falls apart in Netscape 7.x

[Tango]

Dova Wilson wrote:
> One of these days I'll get to a point where I can help answer questions,
> but unfortunately I'm still too much of a newbie with CSS. I'd really
> appreciate some advice on what is going wrong with this page. It is
> validating and it looks OK in at least IE and Mozilla, but completely
> falls apart in Netscape (tested versions 7.0 and 7.2). 
>
>
> HTML:
> http://www.gwvirginia.gwu.edu/newsite/
>   
FYI: ;) When I visit this site, I get an ugly looking warning, in an
otherwise nice looking site, about my browser SeaMonkey.

Warning: You appear to be running Mozilla 1.8 on Linux. To ensure
optimal user experience, you may wish to upgrade your browser.

The browsers I use and test with are:
Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.8.1.4) Gecko/20070602
SeaMonkey/1.1.2
Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.8.1.4) Gecko/20070602
Firefox/2.0.0.4

Which happen to be the latest stable builds.

Tango


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Re: [css-d] REPOST: layout falls apart in Netscape 7.x

[L Lay]

Jim Nannery wrote:
> Dova
>
> You wrote
>   
>>  It is
>> validating and it looks OK in at least IE and Mozilla, but completely
>> falls apart in Netscape (tested versions 7.0 and 7.2).
>>
>>
>> HTML:
>> http://www.gwvirginia.gwu.edu/newsite/
>>
>>
>> 
>
> Just checked my old win 98 box with a 17" monitor and NS 7.2 and your site 
> looks nearly identical to FF 1.5 and IE 6 and 7 on my win XP Pro sp2 box. 
> Sorry I can't offer more assistance, but it doesn't look broken on my 
> end
>
> Best
>
> Jim Nannery
> www.beebar.net 
>   

Looks ok under NS 7.2/Mac too.

Lori
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Re: [css-d] REPOST: layout falls apart in Netscape 7.x

[Jim Nannery]

Dova

You wrote

> One of these days I'll get to a point where I can help answer questions,
> but unfortunately I'm still too much of a newbie with CSS. I'd really
> appreciate some advice on what is going wrong with this page. It is
> validating and it looks OK in at least IE and Mozilla, but completely
> falls apart in Netscape (tested versions 7.0 and 7.2).
>
>
> HTML:
> http://www.gwvirginia.gwu.edu/newsite/
>
> CSS:
> http://www.gwvirginia.gwu.edu/newsite/styles/global.css
> http://www.gwvirginia.gwu.edu/newsite/styles/home.css
>
> What is likely causing this display problem? It looks like things are
> somehow being stretched and the columns are no longer lining up. Is
> there a bug with Netscape that would mess up the floats or clearing? Or
> some other Netscape specific problems?
>
> Thanks a million for pointing me in the right direction.
>

Just checked my old win 98 box with a 17" monitor and NS 7.2 and your site 
looks nearly identical to FF 1.5 and IE 6 and 7 on my win XP Pro sp2 box. 
Sorry I can't offer more assistance, but it doesn't look broken on my 
end

Best

Jim Nannery
www.beebar.net 


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Re: [css-d] REPOST: layout falls apart in Netscape 7.x

[Audra Coldiron]

Dova Wilson wrote:
> One of these days I'll get to a point where I can help answer questions,
> but unfortunately I'm still too much of a newbie with CSS. I'd really
> appreciate some advice on what is going wrong with this page. It is
> validating and it looks OK in at least IE and Mozilla, but completely
> falls apart in Netscape (tested versions 7.0 and 7.2). 
> 
> 
> HTML:
> http://www.gwvirginia.gwu.edu/newsite/
>  
> CSS:
> http://www.gwvirginia.gwu.edu/newsite/styles/global.css
> http://www.gwvirginia.gwu.edu/newsite/styles/home.css
>  
> What is likely causing this display problem? 

...An obsolete broken browser.  I wouldn't worry about supporting it. 
By my stats Netscape 7 has almost 0% market share with all Netscape 
versions together equaling less than a half a percent.  :-)

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[css-d] REPOST: layout falls apart in Netscape 7.x

[Dova Wilson]

One of these days I'll get to a point where I can help answer questions,
but unfortunately I'm still too much of a newbie with CSS. I'd really
appreciate some advice on what is going wrong with this page. It is
validating and it looks OK in at least IE and Mozilla, but completely
falls apart in Netscape (tested versions 7.0 and 7.2). 


HTML:
http://www.gwvirginia.gwu.edu/newsite/
 
CSS:
http://www.gwvirginia.gwu.edu/newsite/styles/global.css
http://www.gwvirginia.gwu.edu/newsite/styles/home.css
 
What is likely causing this display problem? It looks like things are
somehow being stretched and the columns are no longer lining up. Is
there a bug with Netscape that would mess up the floats or clearing? Or
some other Netscape specific problems?
 
Thanks a million for pointing me in the right direction.
 
Dova H. Wilson
Marketing Communications Specialist
George Washington University Virginia Campus
20101 Academic Way, Suite 134
Ashburn, Virginia 20147
Phone: 703-726-3652
Fax: 703-726-3655
www.gwvirginia.gwu.edu
 
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