Re: [css-d] Scalable CSS Buttons That Work in All Browsers

2008-10-21 Thread Elli Vizcaino
Ok I was able to make the scalable buttons work with the sliding door technique 
found here: Specific Button Solution
http://filamentgroup.com/lab/styling_the_button_element_with_sliding_doors/

They look great in all browsers: IE6, IE7 and Safari but is slightly off in 
FF3. And I haven't been able to come up with a solution that will make it work 
in all. It seems like FF3 is throwing a margin around the span that I can't 
control. 

Please take a look here: http://elliv.nbcuxd.com/ (previous address was 
renamed.) 

All feedback and suggestions welcomed. 

TIA,
Elli 


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 From: Bill Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [css-d] Scalable CSS Buttons That Work in All Browsers
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 'CSS Discuss' css-d@lists.css-discuss.org
 Date: Monday, October 20, 2008, 10:43 PM
 Thierry Koblentz wrote:
  Hi All,
 
  Was just wondering if anyone knew of any good
 sliding door techniques or
  anything else that would allow me to create
 scalable buttons in the major
  browsers: IE6, IE7, FF,  Safari.
 [snip]
  I have this page up:
 
 http://tjkdesign.com/articles/buttons/input-type-button.asp
  I can't find the time to write an article/tutorial
 about the technique, but
  you should be able to figure things out. 
 
 Hi Elli!
 
 How's things in the Big Apple?
 
 Thierry also has an excellent resource here:
 http://tjkdesign.com/lab/uploader/buttons.asp
 
 It has more elements in the source than you're using
 but seems quite 
 robust across the browser spectrum.
 
 Let me know if it helps, but give the credit to Thierry. If
 it's not 
 quite what you need, I'll see if I can't dig
 something else up for you.
 
 Best,
 Bill
 
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Re: [css-d] Scalable CSS Buttons That Work in All Browsers

2008-10-21 Thread Bill Brown
Elli Vizcaino wrote:
 They look great in all browsers: IE6, IE7 and Safari but is slightly
 off in FF3. And I haven't been able to come up with a solution that
 will make it work in all. It seems like FF3 is throwing a margin
 around the span that I can't control.

Hi Elli--

I adjusted this:
.lgt_blue_btn, .wht_btn {font-weight: bold;
color: #FFF;
padding-right: 5px;
text-align: center;
width: auto;
overflow: visible;}
to this:
.lgt_blue_btn, .wht_btn {font-weight: bold;
color: #FFF;
padding-right: 0;/* Set to to 0 for FF3 */
text-align: center;
width: auto;
overflow: visible;}
to get it to work in FF3 on my Ubuntu box.

Hope it helps.
--Bill


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Re: [css-d] Scalable CSS Buttons That Work in All Browsers

2008-10-21 Thread Elli Vizcaino
Right but then it won't work in the other browsers that's the problem I'm 
having. 


--- On Tue, 10/21/08, Bill Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: Bill Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [css-d] Scalable CSS Buttons That Work in All Browsers
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 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Martin Möller [EMAIL PROTECTED], 'CSS Discuss' 
 css-d@lists.css-discuss.org
 Date: Tuesday, October 21, 2008, 11:49 AM
 Elli Vizcaino wrote:
  They look great in all browsers: IE6, IE7 and Safari
 but is slightly
  off in FF3. And I haven't been able to come up
 with a solution that
  will make it work in all. It seems like FF3 is
 throwing a margin
  around the span that I can't control.
 
 Hi Elli--
 
 I adjusted this:
 .lgt_blue_btn, .wht_btn {font-weight: bold;
   color: #FFF;
   padding-right: 5px;
   text-align: center;
   width: auto;
   overflow: visible;}
 to this:
 .lgt_blue_btn, .wht_btn {font-weight: bold;
   color: #FFF;
   padding-right: 0;/* Set to to 0 for FF3 */
   text-align: center;
   width: auto;
   overflow: visible;}
 to get it to work in FF3 on my Ubuntu box.
 
 Hope it helps.
 --Bill
 
 
 -- 
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 com since 1999
 WebDevelopedia.com, TheHolierGrail.com, Cyber-Sandbox.com,
 Anytowne.com
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 mind is a
 faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the
 servant and
 has forgotten the gift. -- Albert Einstein
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Re: [css-d] Scalable CSS Buttons That Work in All Browsers

2008-10-21 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Elli Vizcaino wrote:
 Right but then it won't work in the other browsers that's the problem
  I'm having.

Normally I would just make the 5px wide background-image on those
buttons 10px wide (or wider) so it covers the gap, and let browsers do
their things.

That button-construction is pretty weak though, as span and
background-images have fixed height. Browsers interpret line-height in
pixels differently, which means Firefox will change line-height upon
font-resizing while IE and Opera won't.

regards
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Re: [css-d] Scalable CSS Buttons That Work in All Browsers

2008-10-21 Thread Elli Vizcaino
Yes, creating a larger image is what I think I will have to do. Do you have any 
suggestions for making the background button/span construction better?

TIA,
Elli 




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 From: Gunlaug Sørtun [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [css-d] Scalable CSS Buttons That Work in All Browsers
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: 'CSS Discuss' css-d@lists.css-discuss.org
 Date: Tuesday, October 21, 2008, 3:13 PM
 Elli Vizcaino wrote:
  Right but then it won't work in the other browsers
 that's the problem
   I'm having.
 
 Normally I would just make the 5px wide background-image on
 those
 buttons 10px wide (or wider) so it covers the gap, and let
 browsers do
 their things.
 
 That button-construction is pretty weak though, as span and
 background-images have fixed height. Browsers interpret
 line-height in
 pixels differently, which means Firefox will change
 line-height upon
 font-resizing while IE and Opera won't.
 
 regards
   Georg
 -- 
 http://www.gunlaug.no


  
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Re: [css-d] Scalable CSS Buttons That Work in All Browsers

2008-10-21 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Elli Vizcaino wrote:
 Yes, creating a larger image is what I think I will have to do. Do 
 you have any suggestions for making the background button/span 
 construction better?

Fixed-height background-images restrict such construction, but they can
take a lot more if one adds an extra span to contain the text and offset
this vertically with font-size. I can look in my archives and create a
vertically centered text construction if you need one ... later :-)

You can also probably extract something useful out of Dave S's attempts...
http://rincon.pedrera.com/clients/pedrera/standards/Services_Philadelphia_website_design_development.asp

Roger's custom corners can also be adapted...
http://www.456bereastreet.com/archive/200609/transparent_custom_corners_and_borders_version_2/
...and they can take a lot more than Dave's - but Roger's are generally
more complex.

regards
Georg
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Re: [css-d] Scalable CSS Buttons That Work in All Browsers

2008-10-21 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Gunlaug Sørtun wrote:

 ... I can look in my archives and create a vertically centered text
  construction if you need one ... later :-)

Guess now is later, and the basics are here...

http://www.gunlaug.no/tos/moa_38.html

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[css-d] Scalable CSS Buttons That Work in All Browsers

2008-10-20 Thread Elli Vizcaino
Hi All,

Was just wondering if anyone knew of any good sliding door techniques or 
anything else that would allow me to create scalable buttons in the major 
browsers: IE6, IE7, FF,  Safari. The technique would have to work with any 
combination of elements such as: button  span which is what I'm using in 
the work I'm doing now. That combination is working well in FF3 but not Safari 
or IE6 or 7. If I use a  span it works well across all browsers but 
wouldn't validate given the use of the buttons in the form. 

Please look here to see what I'm referring to: http://elliev.nbcuxd.com/ 

Feedback and suggestions always welcomed. 

TIA,
Elli 



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Re: [css-d] Scalable CSS Buttons That Work in All Browsers

2008-10-20 Thread Thierry Koblentz
 -Original Message-
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 discuss.org] On Behalf Of Elli Vizcaino
 Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 5:56 PM
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 Subject: [css-d] Scalable CSS Buttons That Work in All Browsers
 
 Hi All,
 
 Was just wondering if anyone knew of any good sliding door techniques or
 anything else that would allow me to create scalable buttons in the major
 browsers: IE6, IE7, FF,  Safari. The technique would have to work with
any
 combination of elements such as: button  span which is what I'm using
in
 the work I'm doing now. That combination is working well in FF3 but not
Safari
 or IE6 or 7. If I use a  span it works well across all browsers but
 wouldn't validate given the use of the buttons in the form.
 
 Please look here to see what I'm referring to: http://elliev.nbcuxd.com/
 
 Feedback and suggestions always welcomed.


I have this page up:
http://tjkdesign.com/articles/buttons/input-type-button.asp

I can't find the time to write an article/tutorial about the technique, but
you should be able to figure things out. 


-- 
Regards,
Thierry | http://www.TJKDesign.com




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Re: [css-d] Scalable CSS Buttons That Work in All Browsers

2008-10-20 Thread Bill Brown
Thierry Koblentz wrote:
 Hi All,

 Was just wondering if anyone knew of any good sliding door techniques or
 anything else that would allow me to create scalable buttons in the major
 browsers: IE6, IE7, FF,  Safari.
[snip]
 I have this page up:
 http://tjkdesign.com/articles/buttons/input-type-button.asp
 I can't find the time to write an article/tutorial about the technique, but
 you should be able to figure things out. 

Hi Elli!

How's things in the Big Apple?

Thierry also has an excellent resource here:
http://tjkdesign.com/lab/uploader/buttons.asp

It has more elements in the source than you're using but seems quite 
robust across the browser spectrum.

Let me know if it helps, but give the credit to Thierry. If it's not 
quite what you need, I'll see if I can't dig something else up for you.

Best,
Bill

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