Re: [css-d] Vertical Scrollbar in IE ... Causes horizontal scroll bar

2007-03-09 Thread Beauchamp Michael J CONT NPRI
Hi Francky,

Thanks for your help. Unfortunately, I'm blocked from seeing your website and 
have no public server myself to post to. However, knowing that this is not 
common and probably not a browser problem is a big help. Now I can assume that 
there is something in my code that is causing the problem. I'll take your 
advice and look for padding issues. 

Thanks again,

Mike

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From: francky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 3:22 PM
To: Beauchamp Michael J CONT NPRI
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Subject: Re: [css-d] Vertical Scrollbar in IE ... Causes horizontal scrollbar

Beauchamp Michael J CONT NPRI wrote:
 Hi,

 This is probably a FAQ but I can't find the answer...

 I have a problem in IE. I have body overflow set to auto. The width of the 
 document is all percentage and never scrolls horizontally.  However, there is 
 usually a vertical scroll.  The problem is that in IE, when the vertical 
 scrollbar appears, the width of the page stays the same (in terms on actual 
 screen width in pixels), creating a need for horizontal scrolling.  It's as 
 if IE doesn't notice that the scrollbars are using up some of the horizontal 
 space so it never resizes to compensate.

 Can anyone tell me how to solve this?  At the moment I have overflow-y:scroll 
 set so the scrollbar is just always there.  I guess it works... sort of. 

 [unfortunately, I can't post or link to the code.]

 Thanks in advance for any help or pointers to help.
   
Hi Michael,
Strange ... normally IE is *always* making space for the vertical scrollbar (up 
to IE6 under WinXP; in IE6 a transparent vertical scrollbar, if not needed). 
Is it IE7 and/or Vista which is giving your results?
I made 2 testpages, a short and a long one, both with body { width: 
100%; overflow: auto; }, and no horizontal scrollbar is appearing in IE.

* Short page
  
http://home.tiscali.nl/developerscorner/css-discuss/test-IEoverflow-scrollbars-short.htm
* Long page
  
http://home.tiscali.nl/developerscorner/css-discuss/test-IEoverflow-scrollbars-long.htm

Is the long page showing the hor. scrollbar at your side? [1] If not, maybe 
there is in the css of the content of the longer page something like an element 
with a width in % and a padding-left and/or padding-right as well?
Could be also some IE expanding bug - hard to say without code...

Maybe you can isolate the problem in a minimal error page [2] [3], replace 
the remaining content with Lorem's and 1-color images, and send us a link to 
that?

Greetings,
francky

[1] Not yet results of Browsershots at this moment 
http://browsershots.org/website/http://home.tiscali.nl/developerscorner/css-discuss/test-IEoverflow-scrollbars-long.htm#success
[2] The D-Zero Method
http://home.tiscali.nl/developerscorner/golden-rules-of-css.htm#r13
[3] PIE: Mystery Bug
http://www.positioniseverything.net/articles/mys-bug.html
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Re: [css-d] Vertical Scrollbar in IE ... Causes horizontal scroll bar

2007-03-09 Thread francky
Beauchamp Michael J CONT NPRI wrote:
 Hi Francky,

 Thanks for your help. Unfortunately, I'm blocked from seeing your website and 
 have no public server myself to post to. However, knowing that this is not 
 common and probably not a browser problem is a big help. Now I can assume 
 that there is something in my code that is causing the problem. I'll take 
 your advice and look for padding issues. 

 Thanks again,

 Mike

   
 Francky wrote:
 [...]
 [1] Not yet results of Browsershots at this moment 
 http://browsershots.org/website/http://home.tiscali.nl/developerscorner/css-discuss/test-IEoverflow-scrollbars-long.htm#success
 [2] The D-Zero Method
 http://home.tiscali.nl/developerscorner/golden-rules-of-css.htm#r13
 [3] PIE: Mystery Bug
 http://www.positioniseverything.net/articles/mys-bug.html
   
Hi Mike,
In the meantime the Browsershots 
http://browsershots.org/website/http://home.tiscali.nl/developerscorner/css-discuss/test-IEoverflow-scrollbars-long.htm#success
are finished, and I can see on them that, as expected, no one of the 
IE's (IE5.1, IE5.5, IE6, IE7) is showing a hor. scrollbar for the long page.

Success!
francky
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