Re: [css-d] just using CSS, can I center a sentence both horizontally and vertically in a window (viewport)

2008-09-16 Thread Bill Brown
Philippe Wittenbergh wrote:
 
 On Sep 16, 2008, at 1:31 PM, Bill Brown wrote:
 
 http://www.webdevelopedia.com/vertical_centering_unknown_height.html
 
 That can't work correctly on IE 7, as far as can tell.
 That browser supports selectors of the type #vc-frame[id], but has no 
 support for display:table-*. I'm not surprised that davidL is reporting 
 a failure.
 
 One would have to throw IE into Quirks mode for it to work.
 
 (I haven' seen the thing 'live on IE', as I'm nowhere near to a Windows 
 machine).

Sorry guys--

The monitor has died on my Windows machine and I'm waiting for a new one 
to come in. I was under the impression that IE7 was supporting 
display:table-*, but clearly, that's incorrect.

Presumably, moving the IE only code block into a conditional comment 
block will fix that.

If you get a chance, please have another look at:
http://www.webdevelopedia.com/vertical_centering_unknown_height.html
...and let me know how it fares.

I should have a new monitor for the Windows Beast tomorrow, so I can 
test before sending off any more bad info. I don't have a Mac or access 
to one, so I'm also a little curious to know how it does on a Mac OS.

Thanks.
Bill


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Re: [css-d] just using CSS, can I center a sentence both horizontally and vertically in a window (viewport)

2008-09-16 Thread Martin Möller
 If you get a chance, please have another look at:
 http://www.webdevelopedia.com/vertical_centering_unknown_height.html
 ...and let me know how it fares.

IE 5.5 No (aligns left middle)
IE6 Yes
IE7 Yes
Win Safari 3.0.3 Yes
Opera 9.25 Yes
Firefox 3 Yes
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Re: [css-d] just using CSS, can I center a sentence both horizontally and vertically in a window (viewport)

2008-09-16 Thread Martin Möller
Bill Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Martin Möller wrote:

 If you get a chance, please have another look at:
 http://www.webdevelopedia.com/vertical_centering_unknown_height.html
 ...and let me know how it fares.

 IE 5.5 No (aligns left middle)
 Simple fix added to support hcenter for IE5.5 (which should also fix 5.01).

Yep 5.5 works now! :)
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Re: [css-d] just using CSS, can I center a sentence both horizontally and vertically in a window (viewport)

2008-09-16 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Bill Brown wrote:

 http://www.webdevelopedia.com/vertical_centering_unknown_height.html

I'll only mention the usual weakness with vertically centering an
element  by offsetting it - as you do in IE7 and older, as tall elements
on short windows will end up partly above the screen and out of reach.

This overflow is normally not a problem since the element is most often
shorter than the window. It is however enough of a problem in some
cases, to warrant the existence of a different solution...

http://www.gunlaug.no/contents/wd_additions_20.html

The advantage is that the centered element stays within reach no matter
the size of it and the window. The disadvantage is that I have used an
IE-expression to simulate CSS table behavior in IE7 and older.

regards
Georg
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Re: [css-d] just using CSS, can I center a sentence both horizontally and vertically in a window (viewport)

2008-09-16 Thread Bruno Fassino
On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 6:21 PM, Gunlaug Sørtun wrote:
 Bill Brown wrote:

 http://www.webdevelopedia.com/vertical_centering_unknown_height.html

 I'll only mention the usual weakness with vertically centering an
 element  by offsetting it - as you do in IE7 and older, as tall elements
 on short windows will end up partly above the screen and out of reach.

 This overflow is normally not a problem since the element is most often
 shorter than the window. It is however enough of a problem in some
 cases, to warrant the existence of a different solution...

 http://www.gunlaug.no/contents/wd_additions_20.html


I would also add this other solution [1] to the mix :-)   which also
avoids the problem mentioned by Georg (at the cost of some extra
unsemantic elements).

Bruno


[1] http://www.brunildo.org/test/shrink_center_4.html

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Re: [css-d] just using CSS, can I center a sentence both horizontally and vertically in a window (viewport)

2008-09-16 Thread tedd
At 7:16 PM +0200 9/16/08, Bruno Fassino wrote:
On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 6:21 PM, Gunlaug Sørtun wrote:
  Bill Brown wrote:

  http://www.webdevelopedia.com/vertical_centering_unknown_height.html

  I'll only mention the usual weakness with vertically centering an
  element  by offsetting it - as you do in IE7 and older, as tall elements
  on short windows will end up partly above the screen and out of reach.

  This overflow is normally not a problem since the element is most often
  shorter than the window. It is however enough of a problem in some
  cases, to warrant the existence of a different solution...

  http://www.gunlaug.no/contents/wd_additions_20.html


I would also add this other solution [1] to the mix :-)   which also
avoids the problem mentioned by Georg (at the cost of some extra
unsemantic elements).

Bruno

[1] http://www.brunildo.org/test/shrink_center_4.html



While people are providing solutions for page 
centering (not sentence centering), here's mine:

http://webbytedd.com/b2/vertical-center-tedd/

Cheers,

tedd

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Re: [css-d] just using CSS, can I center a sentence both horizontally and vertically in a window (viewport)

2008-09-16 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
tedd wrote:

 While people are providing solutions for page centering (not sentence
  centering)...

Just to make sure nothing gets lost in translation: full page
centering and in-page content centering are two sides of the same
thing as far as I'm concerned.

I cover both page centering and sentence (in a paragraph) centering in
the article I linked to, and the latter is also exemplified in one of
the demos following my article...

http://www.gunlaug.no/tos/moa_11g.html

I have also covered the limitations.

regards
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