[css-d] page check-positioning gap, font issues/questions

2008-01-31 Thread Ron Zisman
http://www.ricochet.org/ricochet2/company_principal.html

i haven't yet viewed the page in msie; only opera and firefox on the  
mac. i'll deal with msie when the page is stable

gap issue:

at the top of the page (on top of yellow box and menus), i'm getting  
a gap.
i've tried zeroing out margins and padding, but am obviously missing  
something.

font question/issue

originally, i speced .8em font size on html/body

looked and worked fine. i know it's a no-no as i've been informed it  
causes issue in msie, i have been taught (by a list member) to use  
100% on body and rescale further down the document.

when i use 100% on body/html, and move the .8em to the wrapper, i  
don't get what i'm looking for. it would be nice to size the font  
once and forget it.

suggestions...

i know only a print designer would use such small type... what can i  
say?

thanks in advance

ron
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Re: [css-d] page check-positioning gap, font issues/questions

2008-01-31 Thread David Laakso
Ron Zisman wrote:
 http://www.ricochet.org/ricochet2/company_principal.html

 i haven't yet viewed the page in msie; only opera and firefox on the  
 mac. i'll deal with msie when the page is stable

 gap issue:

 at the top of the page (on top of yellow box and menus), i'm getting  
 a gap.

 font question/issue

 originally, i speced .8em font size on html/body



 suggestions...

 ron
   

/gap/

Add
h1 { margin-top : 0; }

/fonts/

Right  now you've got a mixed bag of %/px.
If you want to use em's it's:

html{
font-size: 100%; --- so IE will not go goofy ::
}

body {
font: 0.8em Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif;   em on the body
}

And em's  (not px thereafter)


Best,

~dL



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Re: [css-d] page check-positioning gap, font issues/questions

2008-01-31 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Ron Zisman wrote:
 http://www.ricochet.org/ricochet2/company_principal.html

 font question/issue
 
 originally, i speced .8em font size on html/body
 
 looked and worked fine. i know it's a no-no as i've been informed it 
 causes issue in msie, i have been taught (by a list member) to use 
 100% on body and rescale further down the document.
 
 when i use 100% on body/html, and move the .8em to the wrapper, i 
 don't get what i'm looking for. it would be nice to size the font 
 once and forget it.

You had 'html, body {font-size: .8em;}'

That equals 'html {font-size: .8em;}' = 80% followed by 'body
{font-size: .8em;}' = 80%, and the sum of 80% x 80% is around 65%.

html {font-size: 100%;}
body {font-size: .65em;}

...or any other combination that starts with percentage and ends up at
around 65%, will give you a starting-point around the 65% of normal
browser default you're aiming for. So, declaring...

html {/* no font size */}
body {font-size: 65%;}
...will end up where you started without triggering any IE/win bugs.

Side note: do I have to remind you that starting small makes it less
likely that the actual font size will survive 'minimum font size' in a
few browsers..?
http://www.gunlaug.no/contents/wd_1_03_04.html


regards
Georg
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