Re: [css-d] printing online forms

2008-02-08 Thread Jessica Tanny

Thank you Stephan and Richard for taking the time to make some comments 
regarding CSS for rendering the print version of online forms... 

I played around with my print stylesheet taking your suggestions
into consideration (see my original message below for all relevant links). My 
ultimate goal was to have the checkbox sections line up in two columns when 
printed (like they do on screen), but in the end I couldn't get it to do 
that...  

But good news! I did get them to neatly line up
together in a single column (which is a good alternative to two columns because 
the important issue for me to keep in mind is that the person reading the form 
will be able to tell
which checkbox goes with which label). 



In case you are interested... here is what I did in the print.css stylesheet:


I made the  for the checkbox section larger than it is for display on the
screen. Then I made sure the label had no left hand margin. And I took your 
suggestion, Richard, and made the
input.checkbox's width auto (and made the right margin .25 em). 

This renders the checkboxes in a even single column list for printing. Its not 
perfect, but I am not a webmaster nor a css designer by profession, so this was 
very a very helpful solution for me.

Than you again, 

Jessica


> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 14:57:40 -0500
> Subject: [css-d] printing online forms
> 
> 
> Hello -- 
> 
> I'm the webmaster for a regional archives organization who have asked me to 
> update an online member application form.
> 
> They do not want members to email the form to them, but rather fill in the 
> form online, print it out, and mail it in. I know this could be accomplished 
> very easily with a PDF form, but I think the idea is to be as user-friendly 
> (and accessible) as possible, so we've tried to limit the number of PDFs on 
> the site...
> 
> So... since I am in the process of teaching myself tableless design with CSS 
> and thought I'd start here. I built the form with CSS (with many thanks to 
> "CSS Mastery" by Andy Budd), but now I need it to print properly. 
> 
> I've created a print stylesheet and now the biggest issue I'm having is 
> getting the checkbox columns to work in the print-out. They look great on the 
> screen and they print really awful... I'm trying so hard to make this work, 
> but I'm not exactly sure what I am doing wrong.
> 
> Here is the online form:
> http://www.lib.umd.edu/MARAC/members/member-app.html
> 
> Here is the form stylesheet:
> http://www.lib.umd.edu/MARAC/forms.css
> 
> Here is the print stylesheet:
> http://www.lib.umd.edu/MARAC/print.css
> 
> Any suggestions or resources you could point me to?
> 
> Thanks, 
> 
> Jessica Tanny
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [css-d] printing online forms

2008-02-04 Thread Stephan Wehner
On Feb 4, 2008 12:47 PM, Richard Grevers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 2/2/08, Jessica Tanny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
:
:

> By the way I'm not sure about the frustration level of asking people
> to print a form which includes half a dozen select fields (they have
> to remember to make all the selections prior to printing, especially
> as the "choose one" text gets in the way of them simply writing their
> response in the box.)

One way around that is to make the submit button validate. On submit
the server produces a nicely formatted
application with all the values from the form filled in. It has
instructions to print and mail in (with address), a link "Print", and
the print-style-sheet masks all the customary webpage decorations, so
that a simple application letter results.

Stephan

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Re: [css-d] printing online forms

2008-02-04 Thread Richard Grevers
On 2/2/08, Jessica Tanny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hello --
>
> I'm the webmaster for a regional archives organization who have asked me to 
> update an online member application form.
>
> They do not want members to email the form to them, but rather fill in the 
> form online, print it out, and mail it in. I know this could be accomplished 
> very easily with a PDF form, but I think the idea is to be as user-friendly 
> (and accessible) as possible, so we've tried to limit the number of PDFs on 
> the site...
>
> So... since I am in the process of teaching myself tableless design with CSS 
> and thought I'd start here. I built the form with CSS (with many thanks to 
> "CSS Mastery" by Andy Budd), but now I need it to print properly.
>
> I've created a print stylesheet and now the biggest issue I'm having is 
> getting the checkbox columns to work in the print-out. They look great on the 
> screen and they print really awful... I'm trying so hard to make this work, 
> but I'm not exactly sure what I am doing wrong.
>
> Here is the online form:
> http://www.lib.umd.edu/MARAC/members/member-app.html
>
> Here is the form stylesheet:
> http://www.lib.umd.edu/MARAC/forms.css
>
> Here is the print stylesheet:
> http://www.lib.umd.edu/MARAC/print.css
>
> Any suggestions or resources you could point me to?
>
Your checkboxes are still governed by the rule
input {width: 400px;} and it appears that most browsers center a
standard checkbox widget in the defined width if it is greater than
the minimum necessary.
The following should correct it:

input.checkbox {width:auto;}

By the way I'm not sure about the frustration level of asking people
to print a form which includes half a dozen select fields (they have
to remember to make all the selections prior to printing, especially
as the "choose one" text gets in the way of them simply writing their
response in the box.)

-- 
Richard Grevers, New Plymouth, New Zealand
Dramatic Design www.dramatic.co.nz
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[css-d] printing online forms

2008-02-01 Thread Jessica Tanny

Hello -- 

I'm the webmaster for a regional archives organization who have asked me to 
update an online member application form.

They do not want members to email the form to them, but rather fill in the form 
online, print it out, and mail it in. I know this could be accomplished very 
easily with a PDF form, but I think the idea is to be as user-friendly (and 
accessible) as possible, so we've tried to limit the number of PDFs on the 
site...

So... since I am in the process of teaching myself tableless design with CSS 
and thought I'd start here. I built the form with CSS (with many thanks to "CSS 
Mastery" by Andy Budd), but now I need it to print properly. 

I've created a print stylesheet and now the biggest issue I'm having is getting 
the checkbox columns to work in the print-out. They look great on the screen 
and they print really awful... I'm trying so hard to make this work, but I'm 
not exactly sure what I am doing wrong.

Here is the online form:
http://www.lib.umd.edu/MARAC/members/member-app.html

Here is the form stylesheet:
http://www.lib.umd.edu/MARAC/forms.css

Here is the print stylesheet:
http://www.lib.umd.edu/MARAC/print.css

Any suggestions or resources you could point me to?

Thanks, 

Jessica Tanny




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