Re: [css-d] [ADMIN] Re: white or #FFFFFF?

2007-07-10 Thread Rick Faircloth
This entire list etiquette argument could have been avoided
if Jukka hadn't broken what is the most fundamental rule of
lists... be civil...

He criticism was harsh and unwelcome and would do far more harm
to the CSS cause than any somewhat confusing and perhaps inconclusive
discussion concerning white vs #fff.

He could have easily asked if Tedd had any examples posted, and, if not,
he could have civilly asked if he would.

Is there also an appropriate rebuff for Jukka for starting the fight
in the first place?  (It's always the one who throws the second punch
that gets punished, isn't it...)

Rick


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Subject: [css-d] [ADMIN] Re: white or #FF?

Sigh. I went off to peel some mangoes and didn't get round to posting 
the message that follows this. And I return to find it all kicking 
off.

All I have to add to my message is that people should not engage in 
arguments about list etiquette on the list. Since it's part of the 
list etiquette not to do so.

http://www.css-discuss.org/policies.html

Jukka's comment may have been somewhat harshly worded but what he 
said is correct. In fact I had just written to Tedd offlist saying 
much the same thing.

I repeat my request to Tedd to post some sort of example because either:

a) it really is a bug (and if so, we really should know about it)

b) it's not a bug but rather an oversight on Tedd's part and without 
resolution future searchers of the list archives / internet will find 
these misleading suggestions that have been bandied about.


Alex Let the Mango Robinson
css-d moderator



My original message (still scintiallating and worthy of repeated 
reading) follows:


  White won't work, but #FF will, why?

Please stop wasting time with the issue, unless you can provide URLs
of sample pages that demonstrate the problem. If you think you have
really _isolated_ the problem, then it should be easy to set up the
demo pages. But I'm pretty sure it's just a misunderstanding.


Jukka is absolutely spot on.

If you can't post the actual page(s), make a copy of what you're 
working on, remove the bits you need to, and post that (preferably to 
a server rather than as text in your post).

It may even help you track down what's going on. You know, the whole 
reduce to the simplest possible code that triggers the problem thing 
;)

http://www.positioniseverything.net/articles/mys-bug.html

(This goes for everyone, not just Tedd)


If someone can provide an actual working example of #FF working 
but white not, can they please post it? And not spew uncorroborated 
and unreferenced info about mixing values on to the list...


At 10:27 -0400 10/7/07, tedd wrote:
That sounds reasonable and the second read makes me think what I've
found is just one of a million other peculiarities re IE 6 that has
probably been found in some form or another before.

So have you fixed the problem or are you still experiencing it? I 
can't tell from your post. If you are, please do post a reduced test 
case for us to see.


Alex #ffey on the moon Robinson
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Re: [css-d] [ADMIN] Re: white or #FFFFFF?

2007-07-10 Thread Alex Robinson
This entire list etiquette argument could have been avoided...


But it wasn't.

If you disagree with me or feel you have anything to say about list 
etiquette, then please write to the moderators' address and make your 
disagreement/opinions known there.

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But not on list, ok?


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