Re: [css-d] RH column flickers in IE/Win (repost)

2006-03-14 Thread 2geedesign

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From: francky [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 5:41 AM
Subject: Re: [css-d] RH column flickers in IE/Win (repost)


 2geedesign wrote:

 In IE6/Win the right hand column flickers as you navigate around the
site.
 [...]
 I can't remove the background-position ...
 [...]
 I've tried out your suggestion but it doesn't make any difference...
 [...]
 I've set the settings option as you suggested but the problem still
exists...
 [...]
 Other people are suggesting it's a factor of IE that cannot be resolved,
so
 I guess I am going to have to live with it.
 
 
 Hi 2geedesign,
 Defeated by IE6? - Don't give them the triumph! Try to do some Kung-Fu:
 non-compliant behaviour punishing with non-compliant behaviour.
 See this testpages without flashing IE

http://home.tiscali.nl/developerscorner/css-discuss/test-ab-glazing-a.htm.
 Explication over there: easy made IE-only 1-liner.

 This MS built IE flash killer is valid html, is valid css.
 No hacks, no scripts.
 :-)
 francky

 Hi Francky
I have, thanks to you, triumphed over IE6!! Your solution works
brilliantly - not a flicker to be seen.
Many, many thanks for taking the time to investigate and to provide such a
clear, easy to understand solution.

Cheers
Ian





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Re: [css-d] RH column flickers in IE/Win (repost)

2006-03-12 Thread 2geedesign
David
Thanks for your suggestion. I'll try this out. I use the min/max width for
the other browsers that do support so as to limit the widths the page will
go to.
BTW I'm not sure I understand your aside comments - top post or drop my uri?
Please could you explain this for me. I don't want to cause problems for
other people.

Thanks
Ian

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Subject: Re: [css-d] RH column flickers in IE/Win (repost)


 2geedesign wrote:
  Hi Shelly
  Thanks for your response but I can't remove the background-position
since
  the design is based upon using faux columns and so is needed to
accurately
  position the background image.
 
  Cheers
  Ian
 

 Ian,
 Probably a flaky suggestion, but try shorthand and delete the min/max
 width(not ie supported, unless you are feeding a fix I'm not seeing):

 #wrapper {
 min-width: 750px;
 max-width: 1200px;
 background-image: url(../images/fauxcolumns.jpg);
 background-repeat: repeat-y;
 background-position: 75% 0em;}

 Becomes:
 #wrapper {
 width: 750px;
 background: url(../images/fauxcolumns.jpg) 75% 0 repeat-y;}/*adjust
position*/

 I am on linux and unable to test ie.

 aside: Please don't top post or drop your uri-- makes it hard to follow a
logical thread; and people get tired of having to hunt their mail for your
uri:
 Website address is http://www.abglazing.co.uk/
 CSS is http://www.abglazing.co.uk/stylesheets/main-style.css



 Regards,
 ~davidLaakso





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Re: [css-d] RH column flickers in IE/Win (repost)

2006-03-12 Thread 2geedesign
Hi David
I've tried out your suggestion but it doesn't make any difference to the
flickering problem. Thanks anyway.

Cheers
Ian
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Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 8:38 PM
Subject: Re: [css-d] RH column flickers in IE/Win (repost)


 2geedesign wrote:
  Hi Shelly
  Thanks for your response but I can't remove the background-position
since
  the design is based upon using faux columns and so is needed to
accurately
  position the background image.
 
  Cheers
  Ian
 

 Ian,
 Probably a flaky suggestion, but try shorthand and delete the min/max
 width(not ie supported, unless you are feeding a fix I'm not seeing):

 #wrapper {
 min-width: 750px;
 max-width: 1200px;
 background-image: url(../images/fauxcolumns.jpg);
 background-repeat: repeat-y;
 background-position: 75% 0em;}

 Becomes:
 #wrapper {
 width: 750px;
 background: url(../images/fauxcolumns.jpg) 75% 0 repeat-y;}/*adjust
position*/

 I am on linux and unable to test ie.

 aside: Please don't top post or drop your uri-- makes it hard to follow a
logical thread; and people get tired of having to hunt their mail for your
uri:
 Website address is http://www.abglazing.co.uk/
 CSS is http://www.abglazing.co.uk/stylesheets/main-style.css



 Regards,
 ~davidLaakso





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Re: [css-d] RH column flickers in IE/Win (repost)

2006-03-12 Thread francky
2geedesign wrote:

In IE6/Win the right hand column flickers as you navigate around the site.
[...]
I can't remove the background-position ...
[...]
I've tried out your suggestion but it doesn't make any difference...
[...]
I've set the settings option as you suggested but the problem still exists...
[...]
Other people are suggesting it's a factor of IE that cannot be resolved, so
I guess I am going to have to live with it.
  

Hi 2geedesign,
Defeated by IE6? - Don't give them the triumph! Try to do some Kung-Fu: 
non-compliant behaviour punishing with non-compliant behaviour.
See this testpages without flashing IE 
http://home.tiscali.nl/developerscorner/css-discuss/test-ab-glazing-a.htm.
Explication over there: easy made IE-only 1-liner.

This MS built IE flash killer is valid html, is valid css.
No hacks, no scripts.
:-)
francky




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Re: [css-d] RH column flickers in IE/Win (repost)

2006-03-11 Thread Charlie Clark
On Sat, 11 Mar 2006 17:54:43 +0100, 2geedesign [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi
 Website address is http://www.abglazing.co.uk/
 CSS is http://www.abglazing.co.uk/stylesheets/main-style.css
 I have designed a liquid two column layout with the navbar contained in  
 the RH column.
 In IE6/Win the right hand column flickers as you navigate around the  
 site. This doesn't happen in FF or Netscape.
 If anyone has come across this before and can offer a solution it would  
 be very much appreciated.

I don't think there is a lot you can do about this as it is part of the  
way IE refreshes the screen - it seems to blank the screen first and then  
draw the new page so any pages with non-white backgrounds appear to flash.

Charlie
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Re: [css-d] RH column flickers in IE/Win (repost)

2006-03-11 Thread Design Groups
Something I have found - and I don't know why this is - but if you remove 
the background-position from your #wrapper div in your stylesheet, the 
flicker will stop.  For some reason - even if your page is set to reload 
every visit, in IE, if you have the background position set, it'll make the 
flicker - but if that line is not in your styelsheet, then the flicker goes 
away.

Like I said, I don't know *why* it does that, but it works (I have to keep 
this in mind when I do CSS-based rollovers for navigation - if ever I put in 
that background-position thing, then the nav links flicker like crazy when 
moving around there - but I remove that line and all is well!)  I've never 
had it happen to an entire page background before, but I would imagine it's 
the same issue I had with my rollover links.

HTH

~Shelly 

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Re: [css-d] RH column flickers in IE/Win (repost)

2006-03-11 Thread 2geedesign
Hi Shelly
Thanks for your response but I can't remove the background-position since
the design is based upon using faux columns and so is needed to accurately
position the background image.

Cheers
Ian
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Subject: Re: [css-d] RH column flickers in IE/Win (repost)


 Something I have found - and I don't know why this is - but if you remove
 the background-position from your #wrapper div in your stylesheet, the
 flicker will stop.  For some reason - even if your page is set to reload
 every visit, in IE, if you have the background position set, it'll make
the
 flicker - but if that line is not in your styelsheet, then the flicker
goes
 away.

 Like I said, I don't know *why* it does that, but it works (I have to keep
 this in mind when I do CSS-based rollovers for navigation - if ever I put
in
 that background-position thing, then the nav links flicker like crazy
when
 moving around there - but I remove that line and all is well!)  I've never
 had it happen to an entire page background before, but I would imagine
it's
 the same issue I had with my rollover links.

 HTH

 ~Shelly

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