Re: [css-d] Site check please - IE 6 / Win
On 06/04/11 01:29 (GMT-0400) Jonathan Mao apparently typed: http://www.intrinsicdigital.com/test/ What do you mean by mousetype? Mousetype is slang for any text that is significantly smaller than the user default. Opinions on the size threshhold vary, but generally begin at somewhere around the greater of 8px or .6em. 8px is considered unintelligible due to its 4px X 8px character rectangle being inadequate to produce complete letterforms for all characters in a character set. -- Have nothing to do with the fruitless deeds of darkness, but rather expose them.Ephesians 5:11 NIV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/auth/auth __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7b2 testing hub -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Site check please - IE 6 / Win
Hi again The page also seems to look weird in Opera 8.54 (Mac) I'm looking into it now... but if you have any ideas... :-) Cheers Jonno On 10/04/2006, at 9:42 PM, Jonathan Mao wrote: Hi all I hate to trouble for something that has no doubt been covered... I'm having trouble with the display of the footer when viewed with IE 6 / Win http://www.intrinsicdigital.com/test/ The layout should look like this: http://www.intrinsicdigital.com/test/screenshot.html Any suggestions would be really appreciated... Cheers Jonno __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7b2 testing hub -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7b2 testing hub -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Site check please - IE 6 / Win
Jonathan Mao wrote: Hi all I hate to trouble for something that has no doubt been covered... I'm having trouble with the display of the footer when viewed with IE 6 / Win http://www.intrinsicdigital.com/test/ The layout should look like this: http://www.intrinsicdigital.com/test/screenshot.html Any suggestions would be really appreciated... Cheers Jonno Sorry, Jonno, I can't view it in IE right now, but it's not doing well in Linux-- with FF(the content slides under the footer on zoom), and Opera shows the footer someplace other than where you intend. Deleting the ap on the footer helps FF, but then the right col drops on zoom; and it does not help Opera at all. Personally, I think I'd start with a structured layout that does /not/ use ap, or heights set on anything, including the html declaration. Get that much working cross browser with zoom, first-- then play around with the 100% height stuff(if you must). BTW, unless you trim to less than 776 width, you'll get a h-scrollbar at 800 with any fixed width layout. FWIW, this layouthttp://dlaakso.com/sandbox/2c.html should work cross-browser. You might just plug your stuff in and try it? Regards, ~davidLaakso PS Others on the list may have a simple solution to the problem you have. -- Typography exists to honor content. --Robert Bringhurst http://www.dlaakso.com/gustave/ __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7b2 testing hub -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Site check please - IE 6 / Win
On 11/04/2006, at 2:56 AM, ~davidLaakso wrote: Jonathan Mao wrote: Hi all I hate to trouble for something that has no doubt been covered... I'm having trouble with the display of the footer when viewed with IE 6 / Win http://www.intrinsicdigital.com/test/ The layout should look like this: http://www.intrinsicdigital.com/test/screenshot.html Any suggestions would be really appreciated... Cheers Jonno Sorry, Jonno, I can't view it in IE right now, but it's not doing well in Linux-- with FF(the content slides under the footer on zoom), and Opera shows the footer someplace other than where you intend. Deleting the ap on the footer helps FF, but then the right col drops on zoom; and it does not help Opera at all. Personally, I think I'd start with a structured layout that does /not/ use ap, or heights set on anything, including the html declaration. Get that much working cross browser with zoom, first-- then play around with the 100% height stuff(if you must). BTW, unless you trim to less than 776 width, you'll get a h-scrollbar at 800 with any fixed width layout. FWIW, this layouthttp://dlaakso.com/sandbox/2c.html should work cross-browser. You might just plug your stuff in and try it? Regards, ~davidLaakso PS Others on the list may have a simple solution to the problem you have. -- Typography exists to honor content. --Robert Bringhurst http://www.dlaakso.com/gustave/ Hi David I'm considering your suggestion. Interestingly, it renders perfectly with Safari. The 100% height stuff is a real bug-bear, I'm not committed to the idea, but would like to try it a bit more before I give up. Thanks again for the feedback. I'll have a think about the options. Regards Jonno __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7b2 testing hub -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Site check please - IE 6 / Win
Jonathan Mao wrote: Hi all I hate to trouble for something that has no doubt been covered... I'm having trouble with the display of the footer when viewed with IE 6 / Win http://www.intrinsicdigital.com/test/ The layout should look like this: http://www.intrinsicdigital.com/test/screenshot.html Any suggestions would be really appreciated... Cheers Jonno Junno, While looking for something else, I ran across this two col 100% height layouthttp://www.pmob.co.uk/temp/2colmac.htm by Paul O'Brien. I am unable to check it in IE at the moment, but perhaps you might take a look at it. Best, ~davidLaakso -- Typography exists to honor content. --Robert Bringhurst http://www.dlaakso.com/gustave/ __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7b2 testing hub -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Site check please - IE 6 / Win
On 11/04/2006, at 11:06 AM, ~davidLaakso wrote: Jonathan Mao wrote: Hi all I hate to trouble for something that has no doubt been covered... I'm having trouble with the display of the footer when viewed with IE 6 / Win http://www.intrinsicdigital.com/test/ The layout should look like this: http://www.intrinsicdigital.com/test/screenshot.html Any suggestions would be really appreciated... Cheers Jonno Junno, While looking for something else, I ran across this two col 100% height layouthttp://www.pmob.co.uk/temp/2colmac.htm by Paul O'Brien. I am unable to check it in IE at the moment, but perhaps you might take a look at it. Best, ~davidLaakso Thanks David I'll have a look at it. At the moment, I'm toying with the 2c layout you emailed through earlier. I updated the test URL I emailed (above) so that the fonts are now all ems, so that users can use their browser zoom. So , the only thing is that pesky footer really, and only in IE 6 / Win, and FireFox / Win - as far as I know. :-) The 100% height seems to be working the way I have it at the moment. Cheers Jonno __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7b2 testing hub -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Site check please - IE 6 / Win
The problem has been resolved. Thanks to David and Felix for their help. Cheers Jonno On 11/04/2006, at 11:06 AM, ~davidLaakso wrote: Jonathan Mao wrote: Hi all I hate to trouble for something that has no doubt been covered... I'm having trouble with the display of the footer when viewed with IE 6 / Win http://www.intrinsicdigital.com/test/ The layout should look like this: http://www.intrinsicdigital.com/test/screenshot.html Any suggestions would be really appreciated... Cheers Jonno __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7b2 testing hub -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Site check please - IE 6 / Win
Jonathan Mao wrote:
On 11/04/2006, at 11:06 AM, ~davidLaakso wrote:
Jonathan Mao wrote:
I'm having trouble with the display of the footer when viewed with
IE 6 / Win
http://www.intrinsicdigital.com/test/
The layout should look like this:
http://www.intrinsicdigital.com/test/screenshot.html
Jonno
Junno,
While looking for something else, I ran across this two col 100%
height layouthttp://www.pmob.co.uk/temp/2colmac.htm by Paul
O'Brien. I am unable to check it in IE at the moment, but perhaps
you might take a look at it.
Best,
~davidLaakso
Thanks David
I'll have a look at it. At the moment, I'm toying with the 2c layout
you emailed through earlier.
I updated the test URL I emailed (above) so that the fonts are now
all ems, so that users can use their browser zoom.
So , the only thing is that pesky footer really, and only in IE 6 /
Win, and FireFox / Win - as far as I know. :-)
The 100% height seems to be working the way I have it at the moment.
Cheers
Jonno
re: http://www.intrinsicdigital.com/test/
I do not believe the 100% height is working as you intend cross browser.
!4 captures:
http://www.browsercam.com/public.aspx?proj_id=244029
You may want to test Paul O'Brien's 100% layout.
If you keep the current layout, you can delete the first division to
open(and last to close)div id=gatekeeper../div.
I don't think all those crazy width hacks are necessary, if, for
example: you delete stuff like the horizontal padding on #content, and
add it to the #content p instead.
The scalable em font sizes are fine. Consider abandoning the start zoom
point mousetype, and clumsy Verdana by changing these:
body { /*font-family: Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size:
62.5%;/*font: 100%/1.2 sans-serif; }
p {/*delete and do not replace with any thing: font-family: Verdana,
Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 1.1em;
!4 captures:
http://www.browsercam.com/public.aspx?proj_id=244029
Regards,~dL
--
Typography exists to honor content.
--Robert Bringhurst
http://www.dlaakso.com/gustave/
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Re: [css-d] Site check please - IE 6 / Win
On 11/04/2006, at 2:38 PM, ~davidLaakso wrote:
Jonathan Mao wrote:
On 11/04/2006, at 11:06 AM, ~davidLaakso wrote:
Jonathan Mao wrote:
I'm having trouble with the display of the footer when viewed
with IE 6 / Win
http://www.intrinsicdigital.com/test/
The layout should look like this:
http://www.intrinsicdigital.com/test/screenshot.html
Jonno
Junno,
While looking for something else, I ran across this two col 100%
height layouthttp://www.pmob.co.uk/temp/2colmac.htm by Paul
O'Brien. I am unable to check it in IE at the moment, but
perhaps you might take a look at it.
Best,
~davidLaakso
Thanks David
I'll have a look at it. At the moment, I'm toying with the 2c
layout you emailed through earlier.
I updated the test URL I emailed (above) so that the fonts are
now all ems, so that users can use their browser zoom.
So , the only thing is that pesky footer really, and only in IE
6 / Win, and FireFox / Win - as far as I know. :-)
The 100% height seems to be working the way I have it at the moment.
Cheers
Jonno
re: http://www.intrinsicdigital.com/test/
I do not believe the 100% height is working as you intend cross
browser.
!4 captures:
http://www.browsercam.com/public.aspx?proj_id=244029
You may want to test Paul O'Brien's 100% layout.
If you keep the current layout, you can delete the first division
to open(and last to close)div id=gatekeeper../div.
I don't think all those crazy width hacks are necessary, if, for
example: you delete stuff like the horizontal padding on #content,
and add it to the #content p instead.
The scalable em font sizes are fine. Consider abandoning the start
zoom point mousetype, and clumsy Verdana by changing these:
body { /*font-family: Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size:
62.5%;/*font: 100%/1.2 sans-serif; }
p {/*delete and do not replace with any thing: font-family:
Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 1.1em;
!4 captures:
http://www.browsercam.com/public.aspx?proj_id=244029
Regards,~dL
Thanks again David.
In my joy at getting your layout 'adapted', I forgot about the 100%
height. I'll get on to it now.
I'll try removing some of the hacks. I hadn't thought of putting the
padding on the p but it makes sense now. Thanks.
What do you mean by mousetype?
Cheers
Jonno
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