Re: [css-d] horizontal centering in IE

2007-01-18 Thread Jehangir Larry
David Laakso wrote on 17/01/2007:
Larry, I will reply directly to you off-list this evening or in the 
morning-- straight out at the moment...
Regards,
David
-- 
http://chelseacreekstudio.com/

I wish to record my deep appreciation and very grateful thanks to David for 
an 'out of this world' experience. he has been incredibly patient and walked 
not just an extra mile, but several miles.
Also, Georg and Molly t.c. - a big thanks.
Best,
Larry

__
css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d
IE7 information -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7
List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/
Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/


Re: [css-d] horizontal centering in IE

2007-01-16 Thread ~davidLaakso
Jehangir Larry wrote:
[previous messages trimmed]
 David,
 Made changes and uploaded. Now no breaking --sidebar, +sizes. But the footer 
 does not stay at the very bottom if size made ---small.
 Rest (incl H1) seem OK. At least to me :-))
 Yet more coming my way?
 Best
 Larry
In reference to url:   http://www.jehangirlarry.com/andromedamockup.php

I replied to Larry off-list.

~dL

-- 
http://chelseacreekstudio.com/

__
css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d
IE7 information -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7
List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/
Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/


Re: [css-d] horizontal centering in IE

2007-01-15 Thread ~davidLaakso
Jehangir Larry wrote:
 Please see http://www.jehangirlarry.com/andromedamockup.php
 The left hand menu appears centered horizontally in FF but not in IE [I am 
 on IE7]
 Appreciate advice. This centering issue continues to confuse me.
   
Try positioning the ul#navmenu declaration  rather than #menu:

Delete this ruleset:
/*#menu {position:relative; padding:30px 0 0 22px; margin: 0 auto; 
background-color: fuchsia; }*/
Amend this ruleset:
ul#navmenu {
margin: 0 auto; delete
margin: 30px auto 0 auto; add
}
BTW, you're getting some cross-over text overlap with a sidebar and/or 
with font-scaling.
 Larry 
Regards,
~dL

-- 
http://chelseacreekstudio.com/

__
css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d
IE7 information -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7
List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/
Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/


Re: [css-d] horizontal centering in IE

2007-01-15 Thread Jehangir Larry
From: ~davidLaakso
 Try positioning the ul#navmenu declaration  rather than #menu:
 Delete this ruleset:
 /*#menu {position:relative; padding:30px 0 0 22px; margin: 0 auto; 
 background-color: fuchsia; }*/
 Amend this ruleset:
 ul#navmenu {
 margin: 0 auto; delete
 margin: 30px auto 0 auto; add
 }
 BTW, you're getting some cross-over text overlap with a sidebar and/or 
 with font-scaling.
 Regards,
 ~dL
 
 -- 
 http://chelseacreekstudio.com/
Thanks, once again. Works very well.
Does this then mean that the #menu was a superfluous div?  
Regards,
Larry
__
css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d
IE7 information -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7
List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/
Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/


Re: [css-d] horizontal centering in IE

2007-01-15 Thread ~davidLaakso
Jehangir Larry wrote:
 From: ~davidLaakso
   
 [trimmed...]Thanks, once again. Works very well.
 Does this then mean that the #menu was a superfluous div?  
 Regards,
 Larry
In reference to your url: http://www.jehangirlarry.com/andromedamockup.php
I /guess/ the reason why you may have had difficulty centering the list 
horizontally cross-browser is because of conflicting rules. Since 
ul#navmenu alone positions the list, #menu can probably be deleted from 
the markup.
Best,
~dL



-- 
http://chelseacreekstudio.com/

__
css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d
IE7 information -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7
List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/
Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/


Re: [css-d] horizontal centering in IE

2007-01-15 Thread Jehangir Larry
David Laakso wrote:
 In reference to your url: 
 http://www.jehangirlarry.com/andromedamockup.php
 I /guess/ the reason why you may have had difficulty centering the list 
 horizontally cross-browser is because of conflicting rules. Since 
 ul#navmenu alone positions the list, #menu can probably be deleted from 
 the markup.
 Best,
 ~dL
 http://chelseacreekstudio.com/
Thanks a ton. Working fine.
Best,
Larry 

__
css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d
IE7 information -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7
List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/
Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/


Re: [css-d] horizontal centering in IE

2007-01-15 Thread ~davidLaakso
Jehangir Larry wrote:
 David Laakso wrote:
   
 In reference to your url: 
 http://www.jehangirlarry.com/andromedamockup.php

 
trimmed
 Thanks a ton. Working fine.
   
Well... you are getting there, Larry. You may (among other things :-) ) 
want to abandon the absolute positioning so that those little content 
boxes flow with font-scaling (try her at 2+ font-scaling in ff and 
text-size 'largest in ie). The heading h1 should not cross-over or drop 
behind, and you may not want the primary content to disappear under the 
footer. This stuff is a lot more fun if you let go and let the software 
do its thing ;-) .
 Best,
 Larry 
Regards,
~dL

-- 
http://chelseacreekstudio.com/

__
css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d
IE7 information -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7
List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/
Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/


Re: [css-d] horizontal centering in IE

2007-01-15 Thread Jehangir Larry
- Original Message - 
From: ~davidLaakso [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Jehangir Larry [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: css-d@lists.css-discuss.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 8:33 AM
Subject: Re: [css-d] horizontal centering in IE

 Jehangir Larry wrote:
 David Laakso wrote:
 In reference to your url: 
 http://www.jehangirlarry.com/andromedamockup.php
 trimmed
 Thanks a ton. Working fine.
 Well... you are getting there, Larry. You may (among other things :-) ) 
 want to abandon the absolute positioning so that those little content 
 boxes flow with font-scaling (try her at 2+ font-scaling in ff and 
 text-size 'largest in ie). The heading h1 should not cross-over or drop 
 behind, and you may not want the primary content to disappear under the 
 footer. This stuff is a lot more fun if you let go and let the software 
 do its thing ;-) .
 Best,
 Larry 
 Regards,
 ~dL

Gosh! Looks awful. Everything spills all over. 
What should I do? i can't even figure out where to start!
Larry

__
css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d
IE7 information -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7
List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/
Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/


Re: [css-d] horizontal centering in IE

2007-01-15 Thread ~davidLaakso
Jehangir Larry wrote:
 David Laakso wrote:
[Previous messages trimmed]

 Gosh! Looks awful. Everything spills all over. What should I do? i 
 can't even figure out where to start!
 Larry

In reference to your url: 
http://www.jehangirlarry.com/andromedamockup.php

It will go easier if you *abandon the absolute positioning* and let the 
content flow without inhibiting and restricting it..
For example:
Amend the #remove1 ruleset to read only:
#remove1 {
background-color:#fff;
border:2px outset navy;
margin: 30px auto 0 auto;
text-align:center;
width:180px;
}
And amend the html. Physically move the markup for div id=remove1 
and put it  below the navigation box in the right column, like so:
div id=right
h4 ... /h4
ul id=layouts
li ... /li
/ul
div id=remove1
a href=#nogoNEWSbr
Vessels Berthingbr
Recruiting Nowbr
See Application Form/a
/div!--/close #remove1--
/div!--/close #right--

The /other absolute position box/ was treated in a similar way to the above,
and the conditional comment deleted so it will happen in IE6.0 the way 
it does in IE7, too.
!--[if IE6] style type=text/css #content,  #main,  #inner-wrap,  
#wrap { zoom:1; }/style![endif]--

The h1, footer, and any other issues remain to be resolved :-) .

Please see: http://www.chelseacreekstudio.com/ca/cssd/larry.html

HTH.
Regards,
~dL

-- 
http://chelseacreekstudio.com/

__
css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d
IE7 information -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7
List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/
Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/


Re: [css-d] horizontal centering in IE

2007-01-15 Thread Jehangir Larry
 Jehangir Larry wrote:
 David Laakso wrote:
 [Previous messages trimmed]
 Gosh! Looks awful. Everything spills all over. What should I do? i can't 
 even figure out where to start!
 Larry
 In reference to your url: 
 http://www.jehangirlarry.com/andromedamockup.php
 It will go easier if you *abandon the absolute positioning* and let the 
 content flow without inhibiting and restricting it..
 For example:
 Amend the #remove1 ruleset to read only:
 #remove1 {
 background-color:#fff;
 border:2px outset navy;
 margin: 30px auto 0 auto;
 text-align:center;
 width:180px;
 }
 And amend the html. Physically move the markup for div id=remove1 and 
 put it  below the navigation box in the right column, like so:
 div id=right
 h4 ... /h4
 ul id=layouts
 li ... /li
 /ul
 div id=remove1
 a href=#nogoNEWSbr
 Vessels Berthingbr
 Recruiting Nowbr
 See Application Form/a
 /div!--/close #remove1--
 /div!--/close #right--
 The /other absolute position box/ was treated in a similar way to the
 above, and the conditional comment deleted so it will happen in IE6.0
 the way  it does in IE7, too.
 !--[if IE6] style type=text/css #content,  #main,  #inner-wrap, 
 #wrap { zoom:1; }/style![endif]--
 The h1, footer, and any other issues remain to be resolved :-) .
 Please see: http://www.chelseacreekstudio.com/ca/cssd/larry.html
 HTH.
 Regards,
 ~dL
You are an incredible help. I need a while to 'digest' all this; before I 
respond.
I am honoured to have your acquaintance and deeply appreciate the pains you 
take.
You (and ofcourse, many others) raise the bar each time you contribute to 
this list.
Regards.
Larry

__
css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d
IE7 information -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7
List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/
Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/


Re: [css-d] horizontal centering in IE

2007-01-15 Thread Jehangir Larry
 Jehangir Larry wrote:
 David Laakso wrote:
 [Previous messages trimmed]
 Gosh! Looks awful. Everything spills all over. What should I do? i
 can't  even figure out where to start!
 Larry
 In reference to your url:
 http://www.jehangirlarry.com/andromedamockup.php
--SNIP--
 Please see: http://www.chelseacreekstudio.com/ca/cssd/larry.html
 HTH.
 Regards,
 ~dL
 You are an incredible help. I need a while to 'digest' all this; before I
 respond.
 I am honoured to have your acquaintance and deeply appreciate the pains
 you  take.
 You (and ofcourse, many others) raise the bar each time you contribute to
 this list.
 Regards.
 Larry
David,
Made changes and uploaded. Now no breaking --sidebar, +sizes. But the footer 
does not stay at the very bottom if size made ---small.
Rest (incl H1) seem OK. At least to me :-))
Yet more coming my way?
Best
Larry


__
css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d
IE7 information -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7
List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/
Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/