[CTRL] Israel Murdering Iraqi Intellectuals

2004-03-31 Thread Mark S Bilk
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From: Dick Eastman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Israel -- realizing that Iraq cannot stay captured
  is secretly murdering all Iraqi intellectuals who can operate
  government, economy and health post-occupation
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 05:39:44 -0800

Israeli infiltrators (Mossad and other special units)  --
realizing that Iraq cannot stay captured is murdering all Iraqi
intellectuals who might have operated government and economy
post-occupation  -- and killing some American's who are talking
against the operation.  They are determined that Iraq will not
be able to sustain a middle class after the conquerors withdraw.

The specific targeting of doctors and pharmacologists suggests
intentions of future biological warfare against this miserable
innocent victim nation.  (Remember the rash of recently dead
(accidents, suicides etc.  and two on Flight 77 on 9-11-01)
leading microbiologists throughout the world as you read
the following.)

Dick Eastman
  

Iraqi intellectuals flee unidentified 'death squads' By
Ahmed Janabi Tuesday 30 March 2004, 13:04 Makka Time, 10:04
GMT http://tinyurl.com/2a9cw

Occupied Iraq is suffering a new brain drain as intellectuals
flood out of the country to avoid unemployment and an organised
killing campaign.

In recent months assassinations have targeted engineers,
pharmacologists, officers, and lawyers.

More than 1000 leading Iraqi professionals and intellectuals
have been assassinated since last April, among them such
prominent figures as Dr Muhammad al-Rawi, the president of
Baghdad University.

The identity of the assailants remains a mystery and none have
been caught.

But families and colleagues of victims believe that Iraqi
parties with foreign affiliations have an interest in wiping
out Iraq's intellectual elite.

Media reports suggest that more than 3000 Iraqi academics
and high-profile professionals have left Iraq recently, not
to mention the thousands of Iraqis who are travelling out of
the country every day in search of work and safety.

Iraqis used to leave Iraq during the 13-year UN sanctions for
better work opportunities, but they are leaving now to avoid
being assassinated by unknown, well-organised death squads,
said political analyst and politics professor Dhafir Salman.

Usama al-Ani, director of the research and development
department in the Ministry of Higher Education and Scientific
Research said top Iraqi scientists have been targeted by
foreign parties.

I believe Iraqi scientists are being targeted by foreign
powers, most probably Israel.

Terror campaign

Monday's issue of the pro-US Iraqi internet newspaper Iraq of
Tomorrow reported that the decapitated body of mathematics
professor Dr Abd al-Samai Abd al-Razaq had been found in a
Baghdad street.

Aljazeera.net contacted Dr Abd al-Samai's family in Baghdad
and was surprised to find him very much alive.

They published such a story to terrify me and my family, he
told Aljazeera.net, accusing political and religious parties
of turning Iraqi universities into political battlefields.

Since occupation, universities have become fertile recruitment
ground for political and religious parties. Students should
be devoted to their studies, not to serving the interests of
those who seek power.

These groups are targeting me and all my colleagues who want
to preserve respected Iraqi institutions from destruction.

De-Baathification

Aside from the terror campaign, measures taken by the post
occupation authorities have contributed to Iraq's brain drain.

I would like to ask the de-Baathification committee why
they are so happy that many thousands of Baathists have been
sacked from Iraq's governmental departments and educational
institutions? Salman says. Do they think they have done
well? Of course, not.

They have sacked Iraq's elite professionals; who will replace
them? Where will the replacements come from? After all,
these people are Iraqis, is this in line with the national
reconciliation they are talking about?

Before the war on Iraq, US and UK officials repeatedly accused
the Iraqi government of triggering the exodus of four million
educated Iraqis.

But under the occupation the rate of emigration has increased.

Iraqi universities have lost 1315 scientists who hold MA and
PhD degrees, al-Ani said. This number constitutes eight per
cent of the 15,500 Iraqi academics.

Up until now, 30% of those who were sacked as result of the
campaign have left Iraq.

Education system

Iraq is rich in intellectuals, largely as a result of Saddam
Hussein's policy of sending tens of thousands of Iraqi
students abroad to gain post-graduate degrees in a wide range
of disciplines.

The practice fell into abeyance when UN sanctions were imposed
in 1990 following Iraq's invasion of Kuwait.

In the country itself, where education has been free since the
abolition of the monarchy in 1958, most of the 20 universities
in Iraq also awarded post-graduate degrees.

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[CTRL] Fwd: [cia-drugs] Fwd: The Invisible Men

2004-03-31 Thread Kris Millegan
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Canadian inquiry may reveal CIA secrets on outsourcing tortureThe Invisible Menby Kareem FahimMarch 30th, 2004 11:30 AM 

While the nation focused on Richard Clarke's allegations last week, CIA director George Tenet let slip other revelations in his testimony to the 9-11 Commission, admissions that sharpen the contours of the shadowy intelligence practice called "extraordinary rendition." 
The policy, codified in the late 1980s to allow U.S. law enforcement to apprehend wanted men in lawless states like Lebanon during its civil war, has emerged in recent years as one of America's key counterterrorism tools, and has now expanded in scope to include the transfer of terrorism suspects by U.S. intelligence agents to foreign countries for interrogation—and, say some insiders, torture prohibited inside this nation's borders. 
Tenet testified that in an unspecified period before September 11, the U.S. had undertaken over 70 such renditions, adding that the Counterterrorist Center at the CIA had "racked up many successes, including the rendition of many dozens of terrorists prior to September 11, 2001." Tenet's testimony marked a rare occasion when the CIA, which doesn't comment publicly on the practice, provided any details about rendition. 
As the 9-11 Commission continues its focus on why more wasn't done to prevent the terror attacks, a public inquiry set to begin in the next few weeks in Canada may reveal long-hidden secrets about the abuses of America's war on terror. Headed by a judge, it will investigate why Maher Arar, a Canadian citizen who was flying home to Montreal in 2002, was detained by the U.S. authorities at JFK Airport, and then escorted through Jordan to Syria, where he said he was tortured and kept in a grave-like cell for 10 months. Arar was finally cleared by a Syrian court and sent back to Canada, where he hasn't been charged with any crime. 
Arar's advocates say his case calls into question not only what kind of men the U.S. is apprehending, but where these detainees are being sent, and with what consequences. The Center for Constitutional Rights, which represents Arar in the U.S., filed a lawsuit on his behalf in late January that they have said is the first to challenge the legality of rendition. 
"[F]ederal officials removed Mr. Arar to Syria under the Government's 'extraordinary renditions' program precisely because Syria could use methods of interrogation to obtain information from Mr. Arar that would not be legally or morally acceptable in this country or in other democracies," the group charged. 





What once resembled "kidnapping" re-entered the public lexicon in 1989 as "rendition." Then CIA director William H. Webster told The Washington Post the new law would allow the agency to arrest suspects in the downing of Pan Am 103 over Lockerbie, Scotland. As Webster explained it, "You have a different set of circumstances in a country like Lebanon which has no capacity to provide law enforcement or assistance." In subsequent years, high-profile suspects "rendered" to the U.S. have included Manuel Noriega, hijacker Fawaz Yunis, and Humberto Alvarez-Machain, a Mexican doctor accused of helping torture and murder a Drug Enforcement Administration agent. Alvarez-Machain was later acquitted. 
Later it emerged that there had been other secretive operations, with less transparent conclusions. 
"Plenty of renditions were not to the U.S. We just facilitated the renditions," said one former CIA official about terrorism suspects captured by the agency in the 1990s. "We'd arrest them and send them to Jordan or Egypt, and they'd disappear." The men were not brought to the U.S., said the former official, "because the evidence against them would never hold up in court." 
Egyptian and U.S. intelligence officials cooperated throughout the 

[CTRL] Fwd: Larry Bensky's Hang-Ups

2004-03-31 Thread Kris Millegan
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Larry Bensky's Hang-Ups:

A Veteran KPFA Programmers Censorious
On-Air Tactics  Guests Who Fail the Smell Test

During an on-air KPFA listener conference in 1999, Joseph, a black activist,
complained to Mary Berry, then Pacifica board chairperson, about Larry
Bensky's tactless approach to censorship -- insulting and hanging up on
callers, talking over their comments, muttering under his breath and every
other conceivable means of giving them the brush-off. Bensky had been fired
by the station, but Ms. Berry was considering him for re-hiring. Joseph,
however, was adamant in his criticism of the talk-show host and contested
Bensky's reinstatement.

http://www.radio4all.org/fp/mfb-callin.htm

KPFA On-Air Appearance of Mary Frances Berry and Lynn Chadwick, 
5/5/99

Joseph: ...You know, for all the piety that Larry Bensky has about
censorship, we feel that when it comes to authentic, legitimate, responsible
intellectual criticism or comment or question regarding issues -- especially
those issues that affect the black community -- that Larry Bensky has shown
an historical pattern, especially on Living Room, of dismissing, summarily
preempting, censoring, cutting off, diverting, subverting ethnic points of
view he doesn't like no matter how short the question or comment, no matter
how civil. And he either shields certain guests from legitimate authentic
black criticism or accountability -- or when the guest is even resonant to a
certain question from a black perspective, especially a black guest, like
Earl Ofari Hutchinson, Bensky will interpose and preempt the guest's answer
with his own and abruptly move to the next question.

MFB:  Right. I understand.

Joseph:  You've been told about this.  I said an older black woman called --
I certainly don't know her at all -- when you were on with Nicole Sawaya. 
And, you know, you unintentionally, I am sure -- you unintentionally sort of
plied her off with platitudes about, you know, keep on listening...Many of
us Bay Area blacks have to live with these people like Larry Bensky or
Michael Krasney, you know, at KQEDAnd apparently an intelligent,
articulate white woman who called and complained about the same sort of
thing -- not only with regard to minorities and women -- but also with
regard to those views who are more progressive than Larry Bensky's, who he
censors or dismisses.
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[Listeners notice]
http://www.indybay.org/news/2003/09/1645150_comment.php
IndyMedia News Section
by Fred Sunday, Sep. 14, 2003 at 12:00 PM

... The other issue not addresed here is the level of denial in the US about
what it is that we're doing. It's a whole mentality. The ways to maintain
their denial include all sorts of bizarre arguments ... like Larry Bensky's
absurd argument this morning to keep people quiet about the voting machine
scandal - Now if you have a candidate polling with a 5 point lead going
into the election and he loses with a 3 point loss, he's going to raise high
hell . . . . right? Luckily his guest corrected him
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http://www.democrats.com/preview.cfm?term=September%2011%20Opinions
Left-Wing Journalists Attack Those Who Question Bush's Role in 911
10-Jun-02
September 11 Opinions

Bev Conover writes, Gangway for the self-appointed gatekeepers of the left
who are on a crusade to spin, smear, attack, and label as loony anyone who
won't accept the official line that the events leading up to and surrounding
September 11 are nothing more than a series of coincidences and intelligence
failures. This cabal of lily-livered leftists, ensconced in their ivory
towers, have decreed we are bad kiddies for even suggesting that the Bush
administration was complicit in or took advantage of the September 11
attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, and the baddest of all
is Michael 

[CTRL] Iraq War Launched to Protect Israel - Bush Adviser

2004-03-31 Thread flw2
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Iraq War Launched to Protect Israel - Bush Adviser
by Emad Mekay


WASHINGTON - 29 March - Inter-Press Service:IPS uncovered the remarks by
Philip Zelikow, who is now the executive director of the body set up to
investigate the terrorist attacks on the United States in September 2001 -- the
9/11 commission -- in which he suggests a prime motive for the invasion just
over one year ago was to eliminate a threat to Israel, a staunch U.S. ally in
the Middle East.

Zelikow's casting of the attack on Iraq as one launched to protect Israel
appears at odds with the public position of President George W. Bush and his
administration, which has never overtly drawn the link between its war on the
regime of former president Hussein and its concern for Israel's security.

The administration has instead insisted it launched the war to liberate the
Iraqi people, destroy Iraq's weapons of mass destruction (WMD) and to protect
the United States.

Zelikow made his statements about the unstated threat during his tenure on a
highly knowledgeable and well-connected body known as the President's Foreign
Intelligence Advisory Board (PFIAB), which reports directly to the president.

He served on the board between 2001 and 2003.

Why would Iraq attack America or use nuclear weapons against us? I'll tell you
what I think the real threat (is) and actually has been since 1990 -- it's the
threat against Israel, Zelikow told a crowd at the University of Virginia on
Sep. 10, 2002, speaking on a panel of foreign policy experts assessing the
impact of 9/11 and the future of the war on the al-Qaeda terrorist organization.

And this is the threat that dare not speak its name, because the Europeans
don't care deeply about that threat, I will tell you frankly. And the American
government doesn't want to lean too hard on it rhetorically, because it is not a
popular sell, said Zelikow.

The statements are the first to surface from a source closely linked to the Bush
administration acknowledging that the war, which has so far cost the lives of
nearly 600 U.S. troops and thousands of Iraqis, was motivated by Washington's
desire to defend the Jewish state.

The administration, which is surrounded by staunch pro-Israel, neo-conservative
hawks, is currently fighting an extensive campaign to ward off accusations that
it derailed the war on terrorism it launched after 9/11 by taking a detour to
Iraq, which appears to have posed no direct threat to the United States.

Israel is Washington's biggest ally in the Middle East, receiving annual direct
aid of three to four billion dollars.

Even though members of the 16-person PFIAB come from outside government, they
enjoy the confidence of the president and have access to all information related
to foreign intelligence that they need to play their vital advisory role.

Known in intelligence circles as Piffy-ab, the board is supposed to evaluate
the nation's intelligence agencies and probe any mistakes they make.

The unpaid appointees on the board require a security clearance known as code
word that is higher than top secret.

The national security adviser to former President George H.W. Bush (1989-93)
Brent Scowcroft, currently chairs the board in its work overseeing a number of
intelligence bodies, including the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), the
various military intelligence groups and the Pentagon's National Reconnaissance
Office.

Neither Scowcroft nor Zelikow returned numerous phone calls and email messages
from IPS for this story.

Zelikow has long-established ties to the Bush administration.

Before his appointment to PFIAB in October 2001, he was part of the current
president's transition team in January 2001.

In that capacity, Zelikow drafted a memo for National Security Adviser
Condoleezza Rice on reorganizing and restructuring the National Security Council
(NSC) and prioritizing its work.

Richard A. Clarke, who was counter-terrorism coordinator for Bush's predecessor
President Bill Clinton (1993-2001) also worked for Bush senior, and has recently
accused the current administration of not heeding his terrorism warnings, said
Zelikow was among those he briefed about the urgent threat from al-Qaeda in
December 2000.

Rice herself had served in the NSC during the first Bush administration, and
subsequently teamed up with Zelikow on a 1995 book about the unification of
Germany.

Zelikow had ties with another senior Bush administration official -- Robert
Zoellick, the current trade representative. The two wrote three books together,
including one in 1998 on the United States and the Muslim Middle East.

Aside from his position at the 9/11 commission, Zelikow is now also director of
the Miller Center of Public Affairs and White Burkett Miller Professor of
History at the University of Virginia.

His close ties to the administration prompted accusations of a conflict of
interest in 2002 from families of victims of the 9/11 attacks, who protested his
appointment to the 

[CTRL] Foiling the Geek Conspiracy

2004-03-31 Thread Party of Citizens
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Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 10:41:47 -0800 (PST)
From: Party of Citizens [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: [FRANKLIN-ROBOPROFESSOR] C Standard and C Rationale

Let's talk about maximizing portability. The concept itself could apply
to portability across computer languages. Thus the Standard could be
Standard English. The Rationale would be to create a set of menus and
prompts written in Standard English which would do all of the things done
by the complete spectrum of computer languages.

Let's ask Francis Glassborow who wrote the Introduction to the C Standard
book I have here.

ZG


On Wed, 31 Mar 2004, Arun Mehta wrote:

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  From: Party of Citizens [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  But the overall idea of the Standard, I gather, is to tell us the rules
  for C usage across all platforms, ie hardware/operating system
  combinations. Is that correct?


 Well, that is the point of any standard -- in this case, the idea is that you can 
 write software using a regular PC, then maybe also run it on a Mac or Linux 
 machine.. However, this is more in theory than in practice: input output, for 
 instance, is not part of the standard, so you cannot be sure of such portability 
 with C.
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Re: [CTRL] Foiling the Geek Conspiracy

2004-03-31 Thread Adam Ness
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 Let's talk about maximizing portability. The concept itself could apply
 to portability across computer languages. Thus the Standard could be
 Standard English. The Rationale would be to create a set of menus and
 prompts written in Standard English which would do all of the things done
 by the complete spectrum of computer languages.

 Let's ask Francis Glassborow who wrote the Introduction to the C Standard
 book I have here.

The problem with using Standard English to program computers is that my
Standard English isn't the same as your Standard English, or the same as the
Standard English of an ESL student, or the same as the Standard English of a
Japaneese programmer.

If you want to constrain english so that it has to be properly formatted for
the computer to use, then you end up rewinding back to the DOS days Copy all
files from this directory to the sub folder named assignments of the folder
named school works, but it takes a lot longer to type or say than copy *.*
C:\School\Work or even selecting all of the files and dragging them into the
other folder.

Additionally, speaking to your computer may sound like a good idea on the
surface, but have you ever worked in a cubicle farm?  I have trouble carrying
on a phone conversation when two people are talking to eachother in the
background... Can you imagine the distraction with all of your cube neighbors
talking to their computer?

English is not capable of expressing all of the things expressed by even the
most high level computer languages.  Try translating even the most primitive
examples out of your Introduction to the C Standard into english, and watch
5 lines of computer code baloon into 5 paragraphs of english sentences, and
you'll see what I mean.

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Re: [CTRL] The Geek Conspiracy

2004-03-31 Thread Adam Ness
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 Well, those aren't really grammatically correct unless you're Tarzan or
 an Indian Chief.

They may not be gramatically correct, but read a newspaper some time and
analyze their headlines.  They are rarely if ever Gramatically correct, but
they are how people speak.  If you're going to enforce proper english grammar
to the computer, you'll lose about 80% of the American computer market.

 I think the languaged used would have to be literal.  And debugging might
 be even easier.  The software could simply report to the programmer, I
 don't understand this sentence and highlight the
 appropriate statement.

All modern debuggers do this already, but they reference the computer code,
rather than english.  They also provide more detail than I don't
understand, generally highlighting the specific thing that is not
understoond, and explaining why it's not understood.

 The programmer would examine his sentence and find a better way to word
 it.  And it wouldn't be that the computer requires very strict adherence to
 a set of rules, which is the problem with current programming languages,
 but the sentences used would have to be literal and grammatically correct,
 and the spelling would have to be correct, too, but we already have spell
 checkers.  We already have grammar checkers, too.

Grammar and Spell checkers are far from perfect.  I've never had a single
document I've typed up that didn't have some items incorrectly marked as
Gramatical or Spelling errors.  If the Spelling and Grammar checkers can't
even identify correct grammar or spelling, how can they be expected to
extract the correct meaning from the sentence?

 The computer could be told to operate in polite mode which would accept
 an asking as a commmand.  Statements beginning with Would you or Could
 you or Can you would be executed based optionally on an assumption
 that if the human unit is asking if a file can be opened, then he
 obviously wants it to be opened.

Most people don't use the passive voice in entire paragraphs, they are used
in several sentences within a paragraph.  For exampe:

I'm looking for a file that I wrote about a week ago.  It contains
information about the TPM reports that I was composing for my boss.  Can you
find that file and send it to him?

This is completely syntactically valid, comprises a completely valid set of
instructions, and doesn't mean a thing to a computer.  It has no idea who
your boss is, or what a TPM report is.  It uses the passive voice in one
sentence, and doesn't know whether you want an answer to that question, or if
you would actually like it to perform the action contained in the sentence.
And what does the phrase About a week ago mean?  Is it a week or less?
what if it was only a day ago?  Do you mean a work week, or an actual seven
day week?  How does the computer know which version of week you mean?

Even the problem of trying to encode that knowledge into the computer is
non-trivial.  Remember, computer's brains (cpu's) don't even actually deal
with letters, much less words, much less TPM Reports.

 Well, if there's no indication of who your mom is in the filename, then
 the computer would search all files created by your word processor last
 night.  If it can't find a reference to Mom then it would reply, I
 can't seem to find that file.  Can you be more specific?  Hey, a
 computer that can interpret English should certainly be able to speak it
 in a conversational manner.

Part of the problem with that is computer speeds are still not up to the
point where searching of all of your documents is reasonable.  Try using the
Windows Find feature to find all of your documents containing the word
Frank some time.  It will take several minutes, and that's an unacceptable
response time for most people to wait for the response There's no file
containing Frank. Please try a different query.


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Re: [CTRL] The Geek Conspiracy

2004-03-31 Thread Party of Citizens
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On Wed, 31 Mar 2004, Adam Ness wrote:

  Well, those aren't really grammatically correct unless you're Tarzan or
  an Indian Chief.

Yes it can start with point-and-name object recognition.

 They may not be gramatically correct, but read a newspaper some time and
 analyze their headlines.  They are rarely if ever Gramatically correct, but
 they are how people speak.  If you're going to enforce proper english grammar
 to the computer, you'll lose about 80% of the American computer market.

  I think the languaged used would have to be literal.  And debugging might
  be even easier.  The software could simply report to the programmer, I
  don't understand this sentence and highlight the
  appropriate statement.

 All modern debuggers do this already, but they reference the computer code,
 rather than english.  They also provide more detail than I don't
 understand, generally highlighting the specific thing that is not
 understoond, and explaining why it's not understood.

If anyone is serious about this we can develop a Standard in SEE
(Standard Everyday English) and write a C program for it on
[EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED].

ZG

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[CTRL] ritual crimes, information on mind control

2004-03-31 Thread Smart News
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scroll for heavy news articles

Man says he killed 20 boys - Ritual sex slayings perplexed Brazil for 13 years By Andrew Downie Rio De Janeiro, Brazil "Police have arrested a man in connection with the ritual sex slayings of 20 boys, bringing to end a macabre murder mystery that plagued the country for more than a decade. Police in the northern state of Maranhao announced that Francisco das Chagas confessed to killing the boys between 1991 and 2003. They believe the 39-year-old bicycle mechanic may have killed three others during the same period. Police in neighboring Para state want to question him concerning the whereabouts of 10 youngsters who were either killed or disappeared there. However, human rights groups following the case were reluctant to accept the police's version of events and expressed reservations over the tactics used to secure Chagas' confession. They also questioned previous police work and the future of three people already jailed or awaiting trial for carrying out some of the killings." 
http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/headline/world/2476297

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[CTRL] Jeff Rense Interviews Eric Jon Phelps

2004-03-31 Thread iNFoWaRZ
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Jeff Rense Interviews Eric Jon Phelps
Part 1:
http://www.acts2.com/thebibletruth/AUDIOS/Programs-Dec/2Phelps-1.ram
Part 2:
http://www.acts2.com/thebibletruth/AUDIOS/Programs-Dec/2Phelps-2.ram
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[CTRL] Eric Jon Phelps Audio Clips

2004-03-31 Thread iNFoWaRZ
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Audio Clips of Eric Jon Phelps, author of
Vatican Assassins.
(Audio clips 2 minutes or less)
Audio clips of Eric Jon Phelps on:
Alan Greenspan:
http://www.cloakanddagger.ca/media/clips/week13-phelps-greenspan.asf
Masonic Zionists:
http://www.cloakanddagger.ca/media/clips/week13-phelps-masonic_zionists.asf
War Plans:
http://www.cloakanddagger.ca/media/clips/week25-phelps-war_plan.asf
Bin Laden:
http://www.cloakanddagger.ca/media/clips/week25-phelps-bin_ladin.asf
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[CTRL] Radio Interview of Eric Jon Phelps With Alex Merklinger

2004-03-31 Thread iNFoWaRZ
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Radio Interview of Eric Jon Phelps
With Talk Show Host Alex Merklinger:

Part 1:
http://www.acts2.com/thebibletruth/AUDIOS/Programs-Dec/Phelps-AM-1.ram

Part2:
http://www.acts2.com/thebibletruth/AUDIOS/Programs-Dec/Phelps-AM-2.ram

Part3:
http://www.acts2.com/thebibletruth/AUDIOS/Programs-Dec/Phelps-AM-3.ram

Part4:
http://www.acts2.com/thebibletruth/AUDIOS/Programs-Dec/Phelps-AM-4.ram


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