[CTRL] Fwd: [cia-drugs] Carlyle's Way: F-9/11 target explained

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Carlyle's Way F-9/11 target explained

In one of the more ironic twists to come out of Fahrenheit 9/11, the Loews theater group, whose screens are currently showing the anti-Bush opus across the country, was recently bought by the Carlyle Group. The shadowy private investment firm is implicated by Moore as a key part of the insidious web that connects (or once connected) the Bush family to the Saudis, including the bin Laden family. 
For most Americans, F-9/11 was the first they'd heard of Carlyle. What is it, who is involved and how does it make its money?
Dan Briody, who is featured in the doc, is the author of The Iron Triangle: Inside the Secret World of the Carlyle Group, as well as the newly released The Halliburton Agenda.
One of the foremost experts on the Carlyle Groop, no one can accuse Briody of being a conspiracy theorist. He's a business reporter, formerly of Red Herring, who began following the Carlyle story shortly after 9/11. In our latest Cointel interview, GNN gets the lowdown on Carlyle's shady origins, the cosy relationship between the Military Industrial Complex and current and former elected officials, and why the big media has ignored the story:
GNN: What is the Carlyle Group and how did it start? 
Briody: The Carlyle Group gets its name from the Carlyle Hotel in New York City. The founders believed that the name Carlyle portrayed some kind of blue blood, silk stocking air of an old-school kind of investment house and so the Carlyle Group was born from the Carlyle Hotel in New York. 
The Carlyle Group actually started through a tax loophole - something called the Great Eskimo Tax Scam, that's what the company calls it today. The Tax Scam was essentially that Eskimo owned companies in Alaska were allowed to sell their losses to profitable companies in exchange for cash. The profitable companies would buy these losses then write them off their taxes and give a fraction of those losses to the Eskimo-owned companies who obviously needed cash. So a guy named Stephen Norris was a tax accountant essentially at Marriott Corporation, looking to exploit this tax loophole for Marriott and in so doing, he needed to find someone who could hook him up with Eskimos - Native Americans in Alaska, and he was able to find a guy by the name of David Rubinstein who was an aide in the Carter administration and who was renowned for his bulky rolodex. 
If you needed to find someone or know someone, David Rubinstein was the guy to go to. So Stephen Norris and David Rubinstein hooked up and worked a deal for Marriott and Stephen Norris realized that this was a serious money making opportunity and that he was going to go into working this tax loophole full time, which he did, along with David Rubinstein, and they probably put close to a billion dollars through this tax loophole and took a 1% cut on all the transactions and were able to make a nice little cottage industry out of this tax loophole. The two of them used to meet often at the Carlyle Hotel here in New York and when they decided to incorporate, Norris wanted the company to have a sort of silk stocking air to it. He wanted to have a very blue blood feel to their private equity firm and since they met at the Carlyle Hotel a lot, he decided that should be the new name of the company and then the Carlyle Group was born…
GNN: What direct benefit has been accrued by Carlyle since the war and more specifically talk about what they own and what they are all about? 
Briody: The Carlyle Group is a private equity firm, which essentially means that they invest in private companies - they take money from private investors and then invest that money into private companies. They essentially work like a mutual fund would, only instead of buying and selling stocks, they buy and sell companies. So they have differe

[CTRL] John Kerry and the One Big Property Party

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The latest broadcast (040629) of the excellent Pacifica Radio program
Taking Aim investigates John Kerry's associates, funding, and policies.
Of course he's better than Bush, right?  Anybody But Bush...

You can listen to it here:

   http://www.takingaim.info/shows/audio.html

More on Kerry's policies -- read the references:

   http://weholdthesetruths.org/politics/Articles/new-direction-murphy.htm

Note: the Washington Post article is still there, just moved; keep clicking.

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[CTRL] Porton Down Chief CBW "Defense" Scientist Killed In Plane Crash

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Sounds like engine failure; probably could have been caused by a
HERF-gun attack if the ignition is electronic.  This is suspected
in the Wellstone assassination.

Thanks to Scott Loughrey and Jeff Strahl for finding this item.
Another Top Bioweapons Expert Killed
http://www.rense.com/general54/hehi.htm
http://news.scotsman.com/latest.cfm?id=3155120

   Fri 2 Jul 2004
   2:10pm (UK)
   Air Crash Victim Was Weapons Expert
   By Sam Marsden, PA News
   The pilot of an aircraft who died alongside three passengers when it crashed
   into a field was an expert in chemical and biological weapons, it emerged today.
   Dr Paul Norman, 52, of Salisbury, Wiltshire, was killed when the single-engine
   Cessna 206 he was piloting crashed in Devon on Sunday.
   A father and daughter also died at the scene, and 44-year-old parachute
   instructor and Royal Marine Major Mike Wills later died in hospital.
   Dr Norman, who was married with a 14-year-old son and a 20-year-old daughter,
   was the chief scientist for chemical and biological defence at the Ministry of
   Defence's laboratory at Porton Down, Wiltshire.
   He travelled the world lecturing on defending against the scourge of weapons of
   mass destruction, a friend and colleague said today.
   Steve Eley, chief scientist for hazard reduction at Porton Down, said: "Paul was
   a great deal larger than life, and has left an enormous number of friends, all
   of whom have lost an irreplaceable part of their lives."
   Dr Norman's hobbies included parachuting, flying and looking after his small
   collection of old cars.
   Following study in Liverpool, the USA and Canada, he started work at Porton Down
   in 1986 and became an expert in his field.
   The Cessna crashed near the village of Beacon, east Devon, a few miles from
   Dunkeswell airfield, where it took off.
   The aircraft's other two passengers, 16-year-old Daniel Greening from
   Kingsteignton, Devon, and a 23-year-old from Taunton, Somerset, are still in
   hospital.
   Daniel's family said yesterday that he had survived thanks to the "selfless
   actions" of other skydivers on board.
   He was making a tandem jump with Major Wills, based at the Commando Training
   Centre, Lympstone, Devon, who was one of the world's leading parachutists.
   The skydiving ace, from Tiverton, Devon, had 5,900 jumps to his name and had
   held world and UK records.
   The flight was organised by the Devon and Somerset Parachute School, which has
   temporarily suspended its operations.
   The crash site was examined by officials from the Air Accidents Investigation
   Branch.
   The wreckage of the aircraft was removed from the site to the AAIB base at
   Farnborough.
   Retired police officer Eric Franklin, 66, from Beacon, has described seeing the
   aircraft flying low over his farmhouse and hearing the engine "cutting out and
   spluttering" before the crash.

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[CTRL] DOC Paradigm for World Governance

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The "DOC Paradigm" link from our home page asks if this is your paradigm
for WORLD governance: governance by using a paradigm of torture and
health-destruction for coercion and control ... to destroy liberty and
justice.

What is the answer?

POC
 

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[CTRL] Pentagon Tried To Censor Saddam's Hearing!

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http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=2003



Pentagon Tried to Censor Saddam's Hearing





Robert Fisk - The Independent July 3, 2004

We Don't Trust You Guys"

A team of US military officers acted as censors over all coverage of the hearings of Saddam Hussein and his henchmen on Thursday, destroying videotape of Saddam in chains and deleting the entire recorded legal submissions of 11 senior members of his former regime. 

A US network cameraman who demanded the return of his tapes, which contained audios of the hearings, said he was told by a US officer: "No. They belong to us now. And anyway, we don't trust you guys." 

According to American journalists present at the 30-minute hearing of Saddam and 11 former ministers at Baghdad airport, an American admiral in civilian clothes told camera crews that the judge had demanded that there should be no sound recording of the initial hearing. He ordered crews to unplug their sound wires. Several of the six crews present pretended to obey the instruction. "We learnt later," one of them said, "that the judge didn't order us to turn off our sound. The Americans lied--it was they who wanted no sound. The judge wanted sound and pictures." 

Initially, crews were told that a US Department of Defence camera crew would provide the sound for their silent tapes. But when CNN and CBS crews went to the former occupation authority headquarters--now the US embassy-- they found that three US officers ordered the censorship of tape which showed Saddam being led into the courtroom with a chain round his waist which was connected to handcuffs round his wrists. The Americans gave no reason for this censorship. 

"They were rude and they didn't care," another American television crew member said. "They were running the show. The Americans decided what the world could and could not see of this trial--and it was meant to be an Iraqi trial. There was a British official in the courtroom whom we were not allowed to take pictures of. The other men were US troops who had been ordered to wear ordinary clothes so that they were 'civilians' in the court." 

Three US officers viewed the tapes taken by two CNN cameras, 'Al-Djezaira' (a local, American-funded Iraqi channel), and the US government. "Fortunately, they were lazy and they didn't check all the tapes properly so we got our 'audio' through in the satellite to London," one of the crew members told The Independent yesterday. "I had pretended to unplug the sound from the camera but the man who claimed he was a US admiral didn't understand cameras and we were able to record sound. The American censors at the embassy were inattentive--that's how we got the sound out." 

The only thing the Americans managed to censor from most of the tapes was Saddam's comment that "this is theatre--Bush is the real criminal." 

Television stations throughout the world were astonished yesterday when the first tapes of Saddam's trial arrived without sound and have still not been informed that the Americans censored the material. "What can we do when an American official tells us the judge doesn't want soundâand then we find out that they lied and the judge does want the sound?" an American camera operator asked. 

Video showed the face--and audiotape revealed the voice--of Judge Raid Juhi, whose name was widely reported in the Arab press yesterday. According to the camera crews, Judge Juhi wanted the world to hear Saddam's voice. Nevertheless the Americans erased the entire audiotape of the hearings of the 11 former Saddam ministers, including that of Tariq Aziz, the former deputy prime minister, and "Chemical" Ali, Saddam's cousin accused of gassing the Kurds at Halabja. The US Department of Defence tape of their hearings has been taken by the US authorities so there is now no technical record of the words of these 11 men, save for the notebooks of "pool" reporters--four Americans and two Iraqis--who were present. 

Judge Juhi said not long ago that "I have no secrets--a judge must not be ashamed of the decisions he takes." 

The Americans apparently think differently. 



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[CTRL] Israeli might have worked at Abu Ghraib

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http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/apwashington_story.asp?category=1152&slug=Iraq%20Prisoner%20Abuse



Saturday, July 3, 2004 · Last updated 3:54 p.m. PT

Israeli might have worked at Abu Ghraib

THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

LONDON -- The American general formerly in charge of Abu Ghraib prison says there are signs Israelis were involved in interrogating Iraqi detainees at another facility.

Brig. Gen. Janis Karpinski, suspended in May over allegations of prisoner abuse, said she met a man who told her he was Israeli during a visit to a Baghdad intelligence center with a senior coalition general.

"I saw an individual there that I hadn't had the opportunity to meet before, and I asked him what did he do there, was he an interpreter - he was clearly from the Middle East," Karpinski told British Broadcasting Corp. radio in an interview broadcast Saturday. "He said, 'Well I do some of the interrogation here. I speak Arabic but I'm not an Arab; I'm from Israel.'

"I was really kind of surprised by that ... He didn't elaborate any more than to say he was working with them and there were people from lots of different places that were involved in the operation," Karpinski added.

Israel's Foreign Ministry told the BBC that reports of Israeli troops or interrogators in Iraq were "completely untrue." The allegations were also denied in a statement from Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon's office.



"The prime minister's office declares this evening that there is no basis and no foundation to the reports regarding supposed involvement of Israeli interrogators in investigating Iraqi hostages or prisoners," it said in a statement. "These reports are vehemently denied."

The U.S. military has used private contract workers in the interrogations along with military personnel. The presence of Israeli forces in Iraq would inflame opinion in the Muslim world, where many compare the abuse of prisoners by U.S. forces to Israel's treatment of Palestinian detainees.

Until a 1999 ruling by the Israeli Supreme Court, Israeli secret service interrogators were allowed to use "moderate physical pressure" - a euphemism, critics said, for torture.

Among the practices allowed prior to 1999 were sleep deprivation, keeping prisoners in uncomfortable positions for long periods and covering their heads with filthy sacks. Former prisoners say some of those techniques also were used by U.S. forces in Iraq.

Karpinski was suspended from command of the 800th Military Police Brigade after the publication in April of photos showing soldiers abusing and humiliating naked Iraqi detainees at Abu Ghraib. She has said she did not know about the abuse and is being made a scapegoat in the scandal.



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[CTRL] Fwd: Midwest Theaters Ban 'Fahrenheit 9/11'

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News 
Update from Citizens for Legitimate Government July 3, 2004 http://www.legitgov.org/ 
   http://www.legitgov.org/index.html#breaking_news 

Midwest Theaters Ban 
'Fahrenheit 9/11' --The president of a company that owns movie theaters 
in Iowa and Nebraska is refusing to show director Michael Moore's "Fahrenheit 
9/11." R.L. Fridley, owner [and Reichwing whore] of Des Moines-based Fridley 
Theatres, says the controversial documentary incites 
'terrorism.' 
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2004, Citizens For Legitimate Government ® All rights reserved. 

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[CTRL] Fwd: Fw: BONESMAN'S KIN THREATENS TO KILL AUTHOR AND HIS FAMILY

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Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2004 10:52 AM
Subject: BONESMAN'S KIN THREATENS TO KILL AUTHOR AND HIS FAMILY 


Toby Rogers asked me to forward 
this to anyone I thought might be interested.   
Click Here: Check out "New York Daily News - Home - Lloyd Grove's 
Lowdown: A Bonesman's out of joint"http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/207967p-179277c.html-A Bonesman's out of 
joint
It seems 
that folks in Skull & Bones - the Yale secret society that claims 
both 
President Bush and Sen. John Kerry (D-Mass.) as members - don't always like what they're 
reading in Lowdown.Author and Bones expert Toby Rogers tells me that Manhattan 
real-estate lawyer David Richards, the Bonesman who "tapped" Yale undergrad George W. 
Bush into the elite club in 1967, is taking a lot of heat for his anti-Bush 
comments that appeared in this column in May.Last week, Rogers recounts, 
Richards and several other Bonesmen journeyed to Washington to watch their Bones 
brother 
Victor Ashe, the former mayor of Knoxville, Tenn., be sworn in as the 
U.S. ambassador to Poland.At a reception following the ceremony at the 
Metropolitan Club, according to what Richards has been telling people, a 
Bonesman nicknamed "Groggy" sidled up to him and complained about his remarks in 
this column (originally published in Rogers' book "Ambushed") in which Richards 
insisted that Bush doesn't deserve to be reelected President."I think it's 
pretty grim, I think he has trashed the economy, and I think he has conducted 
foreign policy badly, and I think he is a bad President," Richards said. "I 
don't know what he has done well.""Groggy" advised Richards: "Keep your f-- 
mouth shut."Rogers says Richards, who was in Europe and unreachable 
yesterday, also has received abusive E-mails from other Bush-supporting 
Bonesmen.Meanwhile, according to Rogers, the President recently joked to 
visiting Bonesmen, "If you want anything from me, you better ask for it now. I 
might not be here next year."Of course, if that's the case, they can still 
ask President Kerry
Trinday Press Release July 2nd 2004BONESMAN'S KIN 
THREATENS TO KILL AUTHOR AND HIS FAMILYPolice Escort Suspect Away 
Christopher Richards, Son of Bonesman David Richards, who tapped President 
George W. Bush into Yale Senior Secret Society, Skull & Bones, was involved 
in an incident July 1, in Scarsdale New York. There in a face-to-face 
confrontation, Chris Richards threatened to kill author Toby Rogers and his 
family. First there was a story in the Daily News  gossip column LowDown by Lloyd 
Grove about 
some revealing items in Mr. Roger's book Ambushed: Secrets of the Bush 
F

[CTRL] Fwd: [ctrl] Not Feeling Groovy

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Title: Not Feeling Groovy 
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July 4, 2004
OP-ED COLUMNIST 

Not Feeling Groovy
By MAUREEN DOWD
 

WASHINGTON — I didn't appreciate the 60's in high school.

I spurned the unisex style of dirty jeans. I was more under the influence of nuns than bongs. And I was frightened of the cost of free love.

 But as other decades passed — the bland, polyester 70's; the greedy, padded-shoulder 80's; the materialistic, designer 90's; the bullying, Botox 00's — I've become nostalgic for the idealistic passion of the 60's.

It's amazing, given how far we've come from the spirit of the 60's — with Bob Dylan hawking Victoria's Secret and Hillary Clinton a hawk — how obsessed conservatives still are with pulverizing that decade.

Their disgust with the 60's spurs oxymoronic — and moronic — behavior, as anti-big-government types conjure up audacious social engineering schemes to turn back the clock.

The day after his re-election to the House in 1994, the future speaker, Newt Gingrich, jubilantly told me he intended to bury any remnants of the "Great Society, counterculture, McGovernik" legacy represented by the morally lax Clintons and return America to a more black-and-white view of right and wrong.

He said America had slid into "a situation-ethics morality, in which your immediate concern about your personal needs outweighs any obligation to others."

A decade later, after it came out that Mr. Gingrich had his own affair with a young Washington political aide, and he divorced and embarked on his third marriage, he would be a top adviser to Donald Rumsfeld when Rummy and Dick Cheney decided they wanted to bring back a black-and-white view of right and wrong. The old cold warriors thought they could improve the national character by invading Iraq — in that way banishing post-Vietnam ambivalence about using force and toughening up what they saw as the Clintonesque 60's mentality — a weak, pinprick-bombing, if-it-feels-good-do-it attitude. Their new motto was: If it makes someone else feel bad, do it.

W., who had tuned out during the 60's, preferring frat parties to war moratoriums and civil rights marches, and George Jones to "psychedelic" Beatles albums, was on board with his regents' retro concerns, like Star Wars and Saddam, and outdated cold-war assumptions, like the idea that terrorists could thrive only if sponsored by a state.

In his book tour, Bill Clinton has been defending the 60's, noting that the polarization of American politics began with the civil rights, women's rights, gay rights and abortion rights struggles of the 60's and the assassinations of Robert Kennedy and Martin Luther King. "If you look back on the 60's and on balance, you think there was more good than harm, then you're probably a Democrat," he told a Chicago audience. "If you think there was more harm than good, you're probably a Republican."

Mr. Clinton told another audience that Republicans had had success portraying Democrats as "weak elitists who couldn't be trusted to defend their country, couldn't be trusted with tax money, didn't believe in work, wanted to give all the money to poor people and people of color."

He said the "antigovernment, values crowd" wanted to make sure "the right people were in power."

Once they returned to power, the Bush II team, dripping with contempt for Bill Clinton and oozing with "we know best" cockiness, thought they could use the sacking of Saddam to change the way Americans saw themselves and the way America was seen in the world.

Their swaggering determination to expunge the ghosts of Vietnam and embark on a post-cold-war triumphalism has backfired, leaving the military depleted and drawn into a de facto draft, and once more leaving America bogged down halfway around the world in a hostile nation.

The Bushes and Republicans recoiled at Mr. Clinton

[CTRL] Fwd: [ctrl] My Wild First Week with "Fahrenheit 9/11"..

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(I met with someone this week who paid for all of his tenants to go to a matinee of
"Fahrenheit 9/11". Cool. --SW)

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 My Wild First Week with "Fahrenheit 9/11"... by Michael Moore

July 4th, 2004

Friends,
Where do I begin? This past week has knocked me for a loop. "Fahrenheit
9/11," the #1 movie in the country, the largest grossing documentary
ever. My head is spinning. Didn't we just lose our distributor 8 weeks
ago? Did Karl Rove really fail to stop this? Is Bush packing?
Each day this week I was given a new piece of information from the press
that covers Hollywood, and I barely had time to recover from the last
tidbit before the next one smacked me upside the head:

** More people saw "Fahrenheit 9/11" in one weekend than all the people
who saw "Bowling for Columbine" in 9 months.
** "Fahrenheit 9/11" broke "Rocky III's" record for the biggest box
office opening weekend ever for any film that opened in less than a
thousand theaters.
** "Fahrenheit 9/11" beat the opening weekend of "Return of the Jedi."
** "Fahrenheit 9/11" instantly went to #2 on the all-time list for
largest per-theater average ever for a film that opened in wide-release.
How can I ever thank all of you who went to see it? These records are
mind-blowing. They have sent shock waves through Hollywood – and, more
importantly, through the White House.
But it didn't just stop there. The response to the movie then went into
the Twilight Zone. Surfing through the dial I landed on the Fox
broadcasting network which was airing the NASCAR race live last Sunday
to an audience of millions of Americans -- and suddenly the announcers
were talking about how NASCAR champ Dale Earnhardt, Jr. took his crew to
see "Fahrenheit 9/11" the night before. FOX sportscaster Chris Myers
delivered Earnhardt's review straight out of his mouth and into the
heartland of America: "He said hey, it'll be a good bonding experience
no matter what your political belief. It's a good thing as an American
to go see."  Whoa! NASCAR fans – you can't go deeper into George
Bush territory than that! White House moving vans – START YOUR
ENGINES!
Then there was Roger Friedman from the Fox News Channel giving our film
an absolutely glowing review, calling it "a really brilliant piece of
work, and a film that members of all political parties should see
without fail." Richard Goldstein of the Village Voice surmised that Bush
is already considered a goner so Rupert Murdoch might be starting to
curry favor with the new administration. I don't know about that, but
I've never heard a decent word toward me from Fox. So, after I was
revived, I wondered if a love note to me from Sean Hannity was next.

How about Letterman's Top Ten List: "Top Ten George W. Bush Complaints
About "Fahrenheit 9/11":

10. That actor who played the President was totally unconvincing

9. It oversimplified the way I stole the election

8. Too many of them fancy college-boy words

7. If Michael Moore had waited a few months, he could have included the
part where I get him deported

6. Didn't have one of them hilarious monkeys who smoke cigarettes and
gives people the finger

5. Of all Michael Moore's accusations, only 97% are true

4. Not sure - - I passed out after a piece of popcorn lodged in my
windpipe

3. Where the hell was Spider-man?

2. Couldn't hear most of the movie over Cheney's foul mouth

1. I thought this was supposed to be about dodgeball
But it was the reactions and reports we received from theaters around
the country that really sent me over the edge. One theatre manager after
another phoned in to say that the movie was getting standing ovations as
the credits rolled – in places like Greensboro, NC and Oklahoma City
-- and that they were having a hard time clearing the theater afterwards
because people were e

[CTRL] [L&J] Paula Zahn: "food as a political weapon" (fwd)

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Date: Sun, 4 Jul 2004 07:31:08 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: [L&J] Paula Zahn: "food as a political  weapon"

On Thu, 1 Jul 2004, Dedibble DeKepalo wrote:

> e Hi Ma,
> About 10,000 men women and children die in Palestine alone every month due to these 
> sanctions, Weapons kill many but not like the lack of food,
> water and medical services that are needed. Many other countries suffer the same 
> fate before the military comes in and finish them off. The
> Military's gift is spent uranium laced ammunition present in the land that pollute 
> it for over the next million years. This is done in the name
> of the american people and by american tax payers sweat. What kind of human would 
> engage in this. Sick puppies one and all...kepalo

Zahn followed this up by interviewing law professor Turley who said that
even before 9/11 at least he knew of at least 70 cases of torture victims
'outsourced' to countries which make a practice of torturing. Thus Turley
effectively called Bush a LIAR. So much for the Bush statement that
torture is not 'in his soul'.

Now you have a president with the corroded soul of a LIAR and TORTURER:
A liar and torturer who is taking a sledge hammer to liberty and justice.

There is NO WAR ON TERROR: an important international police action, yes.
But no war any more than there is a War on Drugs. We know that the "War on
Drugs", as important as it is, is not a war. It is a metaphor for a police
action and drug dealers take more lives than terrorists by far. So the
"War on Terror" is being used as smoke and mirrors to destroy liberty and
justice and bring in global totalitarianism.

The "MHR Regimen" in BC appears to be a MILITARY regimen which
systematically uses health-destruction (eg food, clothing and other
essentials are necessary for health) as in instrument of governance and
population control. So we wonder what liar and torturer with a corroded
soul has imposed this torture on innocent Canadians who are not at war
with anyone? What morally disgusting terrorist thug is responsible for
this?

POC

> > -- Forwarded message --
> > Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2004 11:55:04 -0700 (PDT)
> > From: Party of Citizens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: [L&J] Paula Zahn: "food as a political weapon"
> >
> > Paula Zahn of CNN said yesterday concerning the Sudan crisis, it would not
> > be the first time we have seen in Africa that "the withholding of food has
> > been used as a political weapon"
> >
> > But food and other essentials for life and health like shelter and
> > clothing are threatened with being withheld and withdrawn every day under
> > the Martin-Campbell regime. It is hard for us to imagine immoral cowards
> > like Martin and Campbell acting on their own initiative so we have to
> > suspect that the "MHR Regimen" is made in U-S-A.
> >
> > It also fits exactly the definition of TORTURE at
> >  as proscribed by the
> > Convention Against Torture and Other Cruel, Inhuman or Degrading Treatment
> > or Punishment.
> >
> > Now President Bush said the other day, "The Iraqi people have their
> > country back". When will Canadians have their country back?
> >
> > POC
> >
> > The Governments of BC and Canada believe they have the right to torture
> >   and kill innocent citizens. The UDHR says otherwise.
> >  
> >
> > America-the-Good chafes under the iron heel of the Cult of U-S-A as do other 
> > states of the world: LIBERATE America, shore up world JUSTICE!
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
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> >
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Moore's Public Service
By Paul Krugman
The New York Times

Friday 02 July 2004

Since it opened, "Fahrenheit 9/11" has been a hit in both blue and red
America, even at theaters close to military bases. Last Saturday, Dale
Earnhardt Jr. took his Nascar crew to see it. The film's appeal to
working-class Americans, who are the true victims of George Bush's policies,
should give pause to its critics, especially the nervous liberals rushing to
disassociate themselves from Michael Moore.

There has been much tut-tutting by pundits who complain that the movie,
though it has yet to be caught in any major factual errors, uses association
and innuendo to create false impressions. Many of these same pundits
consider it bad form to make a big fuss about the Bush administration's use
of association and innuendo to link the Iraq war to 9/11. Why hold a
self-proclaimed polemicist to a higher standard than you hold the president
of the United States?

And for all its flaws, "Fahrenheit 9/11" performs an essential service.
It would be a better movie if it didn't promote a few unproven conspiracy
theories, but those theories aren't the reason why millions of people who
aren't die-hard Bush-haters are flocking to see it. These people see the
film to learn true stories they should have heard elsewhere, but didn't. Mr.
Moore may not be considered respectable, but his film is a hit because the
respectable media haven't been doing their job.

For example, audiences are shocked by the now-famous seven minutes, when
George Bush knew the nation was under attack but continued reading "My Pet
Goat" with a group of children. Nobody had told them that the tales of Mr.
Bush's decisiveness and bravery on that day were pure fiction.

Or consider the Bush family's ties to the Saudis. The film suggests that
Mr. Bush and his good friend Prince Bandar bin Sultan, the ambassador known
to the family as Bandar Bush, have tried to cover up the extent of Saudi
involvement in terrorism. This may or may not be true. But what shocks
people, I think, is the fact that nobody told them about this side of Mr.
Bush's life.

Mr. Bush's carefully constructed persona is that of an all-American
regular guy - not like his suspiciously cosmopolitan opponent, with his
patrician air. The news media have cheerfully gone along with the pretense.
How many stories have you seen contrasting John Kerry's upper-crusty
vacation on Nantucket with Mr. Bush's down-home time at the ranch?

But the reality, revealed by Mr. Moore, is that Mr. Bush has always
lived in a bubble of privilege. And his family, far from consisting of
regular folks with deep roots in the heartland, is deeply enmeshed,
financially and personally, with foreign elites - with the Saudis in
particular.

Mr. Moore's greatest strength is a real empathy with working-class
Americans that most journalists lack. Having stripped away Mr. Bush's
common-man mask, he uses his film to make the case, in a way statistics
never could, that Mr. Bush's policies favor a narrow elite at the expense of
less fortunate Americans - sometimes, indeed, at the cost of their lives.

In a nation where the affluent rarely serve in the military, Mr. Moore
follows Marine recruiters as they trawl the malls of depressed communities,
where enlistment is the only way for young men and women to escape poverty.
He shows corporate executives at a lavish conference on Iraq, nibbling on
canapés and exulting over the profit opportunities, then shows the terrible
price paid by the soldiers creating those opportunities.

The movie's moral core is a harrowing portrait of a grieving mother who
encouraged her children to join the military because it was the only way
they could pay for their education, 

[CTRL] Abuse Case Highlights Gaps in List, 1 in 6 Iraq veterans show PTSD symptoms

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A conference to help survivors of severe child abuse (ritual abuse) and torture will be held on August 6  - 8, 2004 between 8 - 5 PM Saturday and Sunday at the DoubleTree Hotel near Bradley International Airport, 16 Ella Grasso Turnpike, Windsor Locks, CT 06096 (between Hartford, CT and Springfield, MA).  This conference will help educate survivors of this abuse and their helpers.  Pre-registration is preferred.  For information write  S.M.A.R.T., P. O Box 1295, Easthampton, MA 01027-1295 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED], conference information is at:  http://members.aol.com/smartnews/smart-2004-conference.htm 

Abuse Case Highlights Gaps in List - Va. Man Wasn't On Sex Offender Registry  By Avis Thomas-Lester 7/4/04 "He was wanted on a felony arrest warrant in Florida. He had a 1993 conviction in Frederick County for soliciting a teenage boy and faced charges in Charles County last year after a boy accused him of molestation, court records show. When asked, Thomas Richard Koucky admitted to police that he had little  control over his desire for boys and may have molested 300 of them. "If I walk out this door and a young boy is standing there and I'm around, it's all over," he  said in comments quoted in a court report." washingtonpost.com


http://www.newsday.com/news/health/ny-hsptsd013875051jul01,0,4155374,print.story
POST-TRAUMATIC STRESS DISORDER
Study: 1 in 6 Iraq veterans show symptoms
BY JAMIE TALAN
STAFF WRITER
July 1, 2004
Almost one in every six soldiers arriving home from duty in Iraq is showing symptoms of post-traumatic stress disorder, depression or anxiety, according to interviews with more than 6,000 soldiers and Marines before and after deployment. Many said they were aware of their symptoms, but few have sought help. According to the study, published in today's New England Journal of Medicine, the veterans cited fear of the stigma of mental illness - that it could cost them their careers or alter relationships with peers and command officers 
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