[CTRL] Fwd: [cia-drugs] Will Dick Cheney and President Bush be impeached soon?
-Caveat Lector- Begin forwarded message:From: "Vigilius Haufniensis" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Date: July 8, 2005 9:48:24 PM PDTTo: "new patriots" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Cc: "cia drugs" cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, "a political debate" [EMAIL PROTECTED], "global humanity" [EMAIL PROTECTED], "rm counsel" [EMAIL PROTECTED], "evolving thought" [EMAIL PROTECTED], "cia tradecraft" [EMAIL PROTECTED], "jl rona" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [cia-drugs] Will Dick Cheney and President Bush be impeached soon?Reply-To: cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com http://www.profindpages.com/news/2005/07/09/MN1031.htmWill Dick Cheney and President Bush be impeached soon?(09.07.2005)Lyndon LaRouche stated on his Political Action Committee site that "We are going for an early, emergency impeachment" and that "We don't have time to wait"LaRouche said "We can't have Bush and Cheney sitting in the White House when the system blows, which could be a matter of weeks. That would be hell for the human race. We have to blow their cover, and get these guys out now—while we can" (Click here to see the full article)The immediate basis for the impeachment, according to LaRouche is the recent situation concerning the "obstruction of justice and coverup" by the White House over the outing of Valerie Plame and Karl Rove's involvement in the leaking.It seems clear that Dick Cheney's intention was to punish former Ambassador Joe Wilson, by "leaking" information that his wife was an undercover CIA operative, in response to his Niger report that embarrassed President Bush and of course Cheney by exposing his lies about Iraq's alleged weapons of mass destruction.Lyndon LaRouche also believes that Bush should be removed from office on the grounds of incompetence, but feels that Cheney should be first. Obviously, if Bush is removed first, Cheney would takeover as president under the laws of the constitution.There are of course endless perfectly good reasons that can be found to warrant an impeachment and it is something of a surprise that this has not happened already.We have Dick Cheney's connection with Halliburton, which has picked up all the major contracts in Iraq (and rumours have it that one of the companies connected to Halliburton is going to pick up a contract to rebuild the U.S. prison at Guantanamo Bay!).We have seen the "Downing Street Memo" and how this indicates that Bush was looking to find an excuse to invade Iraq.LaRouche has mentioned that "Bush is quite obviously on the edge of a psychological breakdown" and this is very possible. As we have mentioned before, Bush is only a figurehead, someone who can be dumped without really changing anything.We remember watching Bush's face when he was told about the 9/11 attack and thinking that his response was more that of a person who had been told of an event they were already aware was going to happen, and the look was more a case of "What will happen to me if anyone ever got to find out about this?". We are of course speculating, but if you get the chance to see the Michael Moore film again, take a closer look.There have also been questions raised about Bush and a certain male prostitute, and whilst we have absolutely nothing against homosexuals, would it be right for the President of the United States to promote family values, God and his objections to same sex marriage while perhaps having a sexual relationship with another man? We should remember that Bill Clinton was impeached for having an affair with another woman, which looks pretty tame stuff compared to what the Bush administration have done.Bush, Cheney, Rove and probably the rest of the administration should resign and new laws introduced to ensure that no future government (Republican or Democrat) will ever be able to gain so much control again. It would also be nice to see Tony Blair do the same, as he has played a very important part in all of this.We wish Lyndon LaRouche every success on his mission and hope that this will indeed happen quickly, before the world is plunged into yet another global conflict. Enough lives have been lost already and the killing must stop.Complete archives at http://www.sitbot.net/Please let us stay on topic and be civil. OMYAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "cia-drugs" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not
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[CTRL] Fwd: [ctrl] Ted Rall -Karl Rove:Worse Than Bin Laden -Pic
-Caveat Lector- Begin forwarded message:From: Neo Mulder [EMAIL PROTECTED]Date: July 8, 2005 11:36:15 PM PDTTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [ctrl] Ted Rall -Karl Rove:Worse Than Bin Laden -PicReply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.issuesandalibis.org/ Karl Rove: Worse Than Bin Laden By Ted Rall NEW YORK--In war collaborators are more dangerous than enemy forces, for they betray with intimate knowledge in painful detail and demoralize by their cynical example. This explains why, at the end of occupations, the newly liberated exact vengeance upon their treasonous countrymen even they allow foreign troops to conduct an orderly withdrawal. If, as state-controlled media insists, there is such a creature as a Global War on Terrorism, our enemies are underground Islamist organizations allied with or ideologically similar to those that attacked us on 9/11. But who are the collaborators? The right points to critics like Michael Moore, yours truly, and Ward Churchill, the Colorado professor who points out the gaping chasm between America's high-falooting rhetoric and its historical record. But these bte noires are guilty only of the all-American actions of criticism and dissent, not to mention speaking uncomfortable truths to liars and deniers. As far as we know, no one on what passes for the "left" (which would be the center-right anywhere else) has betrayed the United States in the GWOT. No anti-Bush progressive has made common cause with Al Qaeda, Hamas, the Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan or any other officially designated "terrorist" group. No American liberal has handed over classified information or worked to undermine the CIA. But it now appears that Karl Rove, GOP golden boy, has done exactly that. Last week Time magazine turned over its reporter's notes to a special prosecutor assigned to learn who told Republican columnist Bob Novak that Valerie Plame was a CIA agent. The revelation, which effectively ended Plame's CIA career and may have endangered her life, followed her husband Joe Wilson's publication of a New York Times op-ed piece that embarrassed the Bush Administration by debunking its claims that Saddam Hussein tried to buy uranium from Niger. Time's cowardly decision to break its promise to a confidential source has had one beneficial side effect: according to Newsweek, it indicates that Karl Rove himself made the call to Novak. One might have expected Rove, the master White House political strategist who engineered Bush's 2000 coup d'Žtat and post-9/11 permanent war public relations campaign, to have ordered a flunky underling to carry out this act of high treason. But as the Arab saying goes, arrogance diminishes wisdom. Rove, whose gaping maw recently vomited forth that Democrats didn't care about 9/11, is atypically silent. He did talk to the Time reporter but "never knowingly disclosed classified information," claims his attorney. But there's circumstantial evidence to go along with Time's leaked notes. Ari Fleischer abruptly resigned as Bush's press secretary on May 16, 2003, about the same time the White House became aware of Ambassador Wilson's plans to go public. (Wilson's article appeared July 6.) Did Fleischer quit because he didn't want to act as spokesman for Rove's plan to betray CIA agent Plame? Another interesting coincidence: Novak published his Plame column on July 14, Fleischer's last day on the job. If Newsweek's report is accurate, Karl Rove is more morally repugnant and more anti-American than Osama bin Laden. Bin Laden, after all, has no affiliation with, and therefore no presumed loyalty to, the United States. Rove, on the other hand, is a U.S. citizen and, as deputy White House chief of staff, a high-ranking official of the U.S. government sworn to uphold and defend our nation, its laws and its interests. Yet he sold out America just to get even with Joe Wilson. Osama bin Laden, conversely, is loyal to his cause. He has never exposed an Al Qaeda agent's identity to the media. "[Knowingly revealing Plame's name and undercover status to the media]...is a violation of the Intelligence Identities Protection Act and is punishable by as much as ten years in prison," notes the Washington Post. Unmasking an intelligent agent during a time of war, however, surely rises to giving aid and comfort to America's enemies--treason. Treason is punishable by execution under the United States Code. How far up the White House food chain does the rot of treason go? "Bush has always known how to keep Rove in his place," wrote Time in 2002 about a "symbiotic relationship" that dates to 1973. This isn't some rogue "plumbers" operation. Rove would never go it alone on a high-stakes action like Valerie Plame. It's a safe bet that other, higher-ranking figures in the Bush cabal-- almost certainly Dick Cheney and possibly Bush
[CTRL] Fwd: [ctrl] The Great Tom Cruise Backlash By Mark Morford
-Caveat Lector- Begin forwarded message: The Great Tom Cruise Backlash Will this annoying phase pass, or will Tom become the next super- rich, Mel Gibson-like nutball? By Mark Morford http://www.issuesandalibis.org/ Let it begin now. Let it start with a wry askance glance and evolve into full-fledged annoyance and then move into raging hell-bent OK that's quite enough now please stop before we slap you silly. Note to Tom Cruise: You are maxing out. Wearing out the welcome. Becoming less the tolerable and moderately talented and mildly likable megastar and more like an itchy boil on the deranged ferret of popular culture, requiring lancing. The signs are all in place. The crazy ranting, the jumping on couches, the crazed grins, the enormous piles of money, the incessant photos of you sucking the face off your new and bewildered and child-like fiancee, the weird diatribes about psychiatry and mental health, the relatively common knowledge that you are super-seriously involved at the highest levels with one of the creepier money-hungry pseudo-religions in the nation. Also: the assigning of a handler from said cult to tag along with your new bewildered young fiancee everywhere she goes to keep her on the path and make sure she doesn't, I don't know what. Talk about the nightmares? Break down in a heap and confess that it's all a staged setup? Reveal your true lizard identity? Yes, Tom Cruise is getting weirder, more annoying than ever. Or maybe he was already deeply weird and we just didn't know it because he was famously tight-lipped in interviews and was never much of a deep thinker and wasn't all that articulate and no one really paid much attention because, well, who really cares? But now, oh, Tom is opening up. Tom is speaking extemporaneously on talk shows and in interviews about life and love and Scientology, free of the careful grooming and aggressive protection of his former publicist, and while he's still not all that interesting, he is indeed letting his true colors beam right through and those colors are sort of a strange reddish brown with lots of unbecoming blue polka dots and weird slashes of hot pink all overarched by a vague hint of a rainbow flag waving just overhead. Click to join catapultthepropaganda http://groups.yahoo.com/group/catapultthepropaganda/join There are rumors, and they are all juicy and fun. Rumors that Cruise interviewed numerous young actresses to play the part of his fiancee so as to crank the Scientology awareness quotient and downplay the gay rumors. Rumors of Katie Holmes being essentially trained by the church to forgo her former self. Rumors that Holmes essentially vanished for 16 days just before emerging with Cruise on her arm and a hundred million more dollars in her future and a new, decidedly odd Scientology gleam/haze over her eyes. Aren't rumors fun? Totally silly? But somehow, in the age of Bush and bogus wars and massive, commonplace deceptions, weirdly believable? Also: Rumors persist that Tom's Scientology-rich pseudo-love somehow convinced Katie that she must immediately dump her longtime, beloved manager and agent switch to his. And she is rumored to be disassociating with old friends and not communicating with her close family (cult behaviors, all) -- and did we mention the part about how the Scientologists have allegedly assigned her a handler/new best friend to tag along wherever she goes and answer questions for her and coach her on how to behave and speak when asked about their religion? Hell, not even Mel Gibson has a beady-eyed priest from the Holy Family uber-Catholic sect following him around everywhere he goes, answering, in hissing Latin, questions from Vanity Fair reporters and spraying everyone with fake stage blood and sitting next to Mel in all the big studio meetings and screaming Jesus wants 20 percent off the back end, plus international DVD rights! while twitching madly. But then again, Mel's an old hand at being a slightly creepy religious nuthead. And now, apparently, so is Tom. After all, he's been deep into Scientology for upward of 20 years, and is rumored to have progressed to the level of an OT6 (Operating Thetan 6), which is a super-secret high level of the church with super-secret knowledge of the alien story (called The incident) and ESP, and they all get super-secret decoder rings with access to all the best alien-bred hallucinogens in the L. Ron Hubbard Bone Room, where high ranking devotees gather to drink bunny blood and watch old Travolta movies and discuss what the hell to do about Kirstie Alley. But Katie Holmes, she's not like them. She's just a kid. She needs lots of creepy brainwashi... er, gentle religious coaching into the super-secret ways of the church of Scientology, with their incredibly vicious army of lawyers who attack anyone who says
[CTRL] Fwd: [ctrl] War Or Impeachment? By Robert Parry
-Caveat Lector- Begin forwarded message:From: Neo Mulder [EMAIL PROTECTED]Date: July 8, 2005 11:26:24 PM PDTTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [ctrl] War Or Impeachment? By Robert ParryReply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] War Or Impeachment? By Robert Parry In the days ahead, American politicians and pundits will talk a lot about "leveling" with the people by speaking the hard truth about Iraq, meaning an admission that the war is sure to rage for years and require an even heavier sacrifice in money and blood. But this "leveling" will be just the latest spin. What they won't tell you are these two other hard truths: First, whatever lies ahead in the Iraq War, the outcome is almost certain to be far worse for Iraqis and Americans than it would have been if the U.S.-led invasion had never happened. Despite the uplifting political rhetoric about democracy and peace, the smart money is on a staggering death toll, a grisly civil war, possibly even genocide, with Sunnis killing Shiites and Shiites killing Sunnis. CIA analysts also have concluded that Iraq is emerging as a far more effective training ground for Islamic terrorists than Afghanistan ever was. Iraq is both more central to the Arab world and provides hands-on experience in bomb-making, kidnapping, assassination and conventional attacks on military targets. [Reuters, June 22, 2005] If the Iraq insurgency ever ends, these battle-hardened terrorists also would be freed up to turn their skills on American targets around the world or on pro-U.S. governments in the Middle East, such as Saudi Arabia and Jordan., according to an internal CIA analysis written in May 2005. A drawn-out Iraq War also is certain to damage America's volunteer military, with some of the nation's best warriors killed, wounded or embittered after repeated tours in Iraq. Recruiters have struggled to meet quotas, and many current GIs have stayed in the military only because the Bush administration has invoked so-called "stop-loss" orders that prevent soldiers from leaving when their tours of duty are up. Another sign of how poorly "Operation Iraqi Freedom" is going is that one of the mission's chief goals now is a major expansion of Iraq's prison system. In other words, the expectation is that Saddam Hussein's old police state will be succeeded by a government that will lock up even more people. Click to join catapultthepropaganda http://groups.yahoo.com/group/catapultthepropaganda/join Two Choices The second hard truth is that the American people have only two choices on what to do next: they can continue to send their young soldiers into the Iraqi death trap for at least the next several years and hope for the best, or they can build a movement for impeaching George W. Bush and other administration officials - and then try to make the best of a bad situation in Iraq. Although the realistic prospects for electing a Congress in 2006 that would act against Bush may appear slim, an impeachment movement would create at least a focus for a national political campaign, much like the Republicans used the Contract with America to gain their congressional majorities in 1994. An impeachment strategy would have two other benefits: it would create the framework for an official investigation into the deceptions that led the nation to war in 2002-2003 (as well as into the incompetence with which the war was fought) and it would offer a legal structure for achieving some accountability. No accountability means that a precedent has been set for future presidents misleading the nation into other aggressive wars of choice and paying no price. While many liberals and Democrats reject an impeachment strategy - fearing that it would be too confrontational and carry too many political risks - there are dangers, too, in again trying to finesse the Iraq War, as Democrats did in the disastrous elections of 2002 and 2004. Arguably, the Democrats would be no worse off - and might actually be in control of the government - if they had stood up to Bush's war hysteria in 2002 and made the case in 2004 that the war must be brought to a swift conclusion. If Election 2006 is a reprise of the past two elections, the Republicans might actually gain ground against a demoralized Democratic base. But these two "hard truths" - the recognition that the Iraq War fails any reasonable cost-benefit analysis and the realization that only extraordinary political courage can force a change of course - are sure not to be part of Bush's new PR push on Iraq, even as the politicians and the pundits say they're finally "leveling" with the American people. (c) 2005 Robert Parry, broke many of the Iran-Contra stories in the 1980s for the Associated Press and Newsweek. His new book, Secrecy Privilege: Rise of the Bush Dynasty from Watergate
[CTRL] Fwd: [ctrl] Condemned2Relive the Past-Ken Sanders,dissidentvoice.org
-Caveat Lector- Begin forwarded message:From: Neo Mulder [EMAIL PROTECTED]Date: July 9, 2005 12:09:10 AM PDTTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [ctrl] Condemned2Relive the Past-Ken Sanders,dissidentvoice.orgReply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Condemned to Relive the Past Ken Sanders, www.dissidentvoice.org July 7, 2005"Those who do not remember the past are condemned to relive it."-- George Santanya It is probably safe to assume that few Americans know or care about their nation's history of atrocities in Latin America. They neither know nor care about the death squads in Guatemala and El Salvador that were trained, funded, and equipped by the U.S., and which tortured and murdered thousands of alleged "communists and terrorists." From the point of view of the U.S. government, Americans' ignorance and disinterest in their nation's history of "counter-terror assistance" to countries like Guatemala is a real boon. It makes it that much easier for the U.S. to fund, train, and equip nearly identical death squads in Iraq. Beginning in the 1960's, the U.S. assisted the right-wing Guatemalan government in establishing a counter-terrorist task force to combat communist insurgent groups (a.k.a. terrorists). For instance, when the Guatemalan government asked for help in developing special squads that would kidnap, torture, and kill suspected communists, the U.S. military recommended that the U.S. "fully support current police improvement programs and initiate military psychological warfare training and additional counterinsurgency operations training." In other words, Guatemala got the help it wanted. In 1968, the State Department's Viron Vacky, former U.S. Deputy Chief of Mission in Guatemala, criticized the U.S. government for condoning the Guatemalan government's counter-terror practices of killing, torturing, and mutilating suspected communists. Vacky summarized the U.S. position regarding Guatemala's death squads: "[A]s long as Communists are being killed it is alright. Murder, torture and mutilation are alright if our side is doing it and the victims are Communists." In a 1971 cable to the House Sub-Committee on Inter-American Affairs, the U.S. embassy in Guatemala confirmed Vacky's accusations when it admitted, "The U.S. Government is aware of the tactics being used by the Government of Guatemala in combatting [sic] urban and rural terrorism." Despite this awareness, the U.S. continued to provide overt military aid to the Guatemalan government and its regime of murder and torture until 1990. Covert military aid continued until 1995. Click to join catapultthepropaganda http://groups.yahoo.com/group/catapultthepropaganda/join The U.S. wrote a similar story in El Salvador.Why the (extremely) brief history lesson? In Iraq, U.S.-backed counterinsurgency groups are engaging in the same practices of kidnapping, torture, and murder (http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=05/01/10/1456242 ) that were employed in Guatemala and El Salvador. With each passing day in Iraq, more and more bodies of suspected insurgents are turning up exhibiting clear signs of torture and summary execution. Take, for instance, the case of Hassan an-Ni'ami, a suspected terrorist. As reported in The Observer, an-Ni'ami was abducted in May by Iraqi police commandos (to great televised fanfare) twelve hours before his mutilated body turned up at the morgue. He had been hung from handcuffs until his hands and wrists became swollen. There were burn marks and welts covering his torso. His nose and arm were broken and one of his upper vertebrae was dislodged. Clusters of circular wounds on both sides of his left knee looked like they had been inflicted by an electric drill. Finally, he was shot repeatedly in the chest and head. His is not an isolated case.Beginning in April, following the announcement of Iraq's new Shiite-led government, the bodies of Sunni men began turning up at Baghdad's central morgue. Witnesses had seen the men captured by men in police commando uniforms and body armor, brandishing Glock 9mm pistols, and driving Toyota Land Cruisers with police markings. (The use of Land Cruisers and Glocks is significant since they cost more than $55,000 and $500 apiece, respectively, and are used exclusively by Western contractors and Iraqi security forces.) The mens' hands had been tied or handcuffed behind their backs and their eyes were blindfolded. The dead men appeared to have been whipped, electrocuted, and beaten with blunt objects before being shot, execution style, in the back of the head. According to Knight-Ridder, more than 30 such killings in Baghdad occurred in less than a week. Similarly, Knight-Ridder reported that in May, 14 Sunni farmers were abducted from a Baghdad market by a patrol of more than 10 police vehicles. The next day, the bodies of the suspected insurgents were found in shallow graves. The men
[CTRL] Fwd: [ctrl] Criminal Intent, Illegal Wars, Gangsta Plots: Why the W/Blair Gang will B tried4war crimes
-Caveat Lector- Begin forwarded message:From: Neo Mulder [EMAIL PROTECTED]Date: July 9, 2005 12:12:05 AM PDTTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [ctrl] Criminal Intent, Illegal Wars, Gangsta Plots: Why the W/Blair Gang will B tried4war crimesReply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Criminal Intent, Illegal Wars, Gangsta Plots: Why the Bush/Blair Gang will be tried for war crimes Edward Teague, I'n'I July 7, 2005 “UNDER SECRETARY FEITH VISITS ROMANIA, PAKISTAN, AFGHANISTAN AND ITALY Under Secretary of Defense for Policy Douglas J. Feith will travel to Romania, Pakistan, Afghanistan and Italy this week. In Romania, Mr. Feith will meet with President Ion Iliescu, Prime Minister Adrian Nastase, Foreign Minister Mircea Dan Geoana and Minister of Defense Ioan Mircea Pascu. The visit to Romania presents an opportunity to convey the U.S. government's appreciation for Romania's contributions to the War on Terrorism and for Romania's conclusion of a bilateral Article 98 agreement with the U.S. dealing with the International Criminal Court. Romania is the first country to conclude this important agreement with the U.S. Feith will also discuss U.S.-Romania defense cooperation and Romania's NATO candidacy In Romania, the group will meet with national leaders. They will discuss the country's NATO candidacy, and the U.S. delegation will thank Romania for its help in the war on terrorism and for supporting the U.S. position on the International Criminal Court.”Press Release, September 23rd 2002 US Embassy Romania At their August meeting 2002 Bush gave Blair his instructions about invading Iraq. These plans were settled in detail by Rumsfeld a week later in New York when Minister of Defence Geoff Hoon (with, we now know, a very unhappy bunch of MOD stars including Dr David Kelly ). After he and his military men got their marching orders, the leaden lawyer Hoon, with a delightful sense of irony, addressed his old American alma mater, Louisville U. in the appropriately named Muhammed Ali Peace Hall. The above little noticed visit by one of the self confessed neo-cons, whose mission and vision were still a guilty little secret unknown outside the Beltway, was doing his best to drum up support for US refusal to recognise the International Criminal Court. Few criminals decide they don't recognise the courts jurisidiction in advance of committing the crime. Proof, if it were needed, of the wicked and criminal intention to illegally invade and occupy Iraq. Crime cannot be justified In launching the imperial invasion and shock and awe inspiring blitzkrieg on March 8th 2003, the UK and US are unquestionably in violation of the Charter of the United Nations and other international agreements by which the US and Britain as signatories are bound. UN Secretary General Kofi Annan repeatedly said before the invasion that a unilateral attack would be in violation of the UN Charter. This violent and aggressive invasion, unleashing over 30,000 bombs, napalm, and all the terrors of aerial bombing against a civilian population, was a Hobbesian, "War of each against all". Raw power, military might, not morality, not legitimacy was the only currency. The Bush Administration and Parliament were well aware this attack had no legal basis. The legal justifications offered then, and over which much squalid sophistry is being used and cyinically offered are transparently fraudulent. Simply put. The invasion of Iraq was illegal. It's authors are criminals and should be tried as such. The White House Legal Brief On March 13th 2002 at a Press Briefing in the White House, Ari Fleischer, then but now, ex- Presidential spokesman, was asked about the legality of a war on Iraq. He read, from an obviously prepared statement, “The UN Security Council Resolution 678 authorised use of all means to uphold UN Security Council resolution 660 and subsequent resolutions and to restore international peace and security in the area.” In fact 678 authorised the use of force only to remove Iraqi military forces from Kuwait, not to invade Iraq. “Thereafter,” Fleischer stridently continued, “687 declared a cease fire …. And provides then legal grounds for the use of force.” The UN Charter The 1945 UN Charter Article 2 , states, “must refrain..from the use of force against or the territorial integrity or political independence of any state”…except under certain narrowly defined circumstances.” “Member states must seek a solution to disputes through the Security Council (Art 33) and the Security Council, which will determine what action to take” (Art 39) It is only the Security Council that can decide upon the use of force : “Plans for the application of force shall be made by the Security Council with the assistance of the Military Staff Committee..” (Art 48) “Member states may use force but only the Security Council is empowered to
[CTRL] Fwd: [cia-drugs] Train Wreck of the Week By Bob Chapman
-Caveat Lector- Begin forwarded message:From: "Vigilius Haufniensis" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Date: July 9, 2005 10:46:06 AM PDTTo: "cia drugs" cia-drugs@yahoogroups.comCc: "a political debate" [EMAIL PROTECTED], "global humanity" [EMAIL PROTECTED], "rm counsel" [EMAIL PROTECTED], "evolving thought" [EMAIL PROTECTED], "jl rona" [EMAIL PROTECTED], "cia tradecraft" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [cia-drugs] Train Wreck of the Week By Bob ChapmanReply-To: cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com - Original Message -From: MiloTo: Recipient List SuppressedSent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 5:12 AMSubject: [new_patriots] Train Wreck of the Week By Bob Chapman http://www.theinternationalforecaster.com/trainwreck.php?Id=83Train Wreck of the Week By Bob Chapman July 3 2005George W. Bush has lied about WMD in order to create an excuse for war, and we now also find he lied about his actions and interest prior to the war. In August of 2002, he began military actions inside Iraq. First came the bombing extension and then the insertion of Special Forces Units for reconnaissance. Six months later the CIA and special operations were sent into Iraq. Our President was waging aggressive war long before official war and invasion began. This is George and the neocon’s version of democracy. Our intelligence tells us that the same pre war, war preparations are going on in Iran, which is to be the elitists’ next target. Our special units are already in Iran and have been for some time and the BBC tells us our U2 spy plane was shot down while over Iran. Our government hasn’t told us yet where the wreckage is, only that they are guarding and inspecting it. Essentially, we are already at war with Iran – we just haven’t invaded yet. US trained infiltrators from Azerbaijan are already in Iran collecting intelligence, which we mentioned some months ago. We also have military aircraft in Azerbaijan with which we can attack Iran. Our government is in the process of creating another war for profit – to steal Iran’s oil. If we do not impose tariff barriers on goods and services, America’s economic structure will be destroyed. Yes, consumer prices will rise but that cost is far less than the destruction of our economic and financial system, which is now taking place. Free trade and globalization has been disastrous for our country.If you live in a hot housing market you had best pay attention and beware that you will suffer the most from a downturn. The FDIC says the 22 major local markets with the fastest growing prices account for 35% of the nation’s housing values, that is those that are up more than 30% over the past three years. In 2004, 55 of 362 markets qualified, and account for about 40% of national residential values.Fannie Mae concludes that the probability of regional housing busts has risen sharply in certain parts of the country and current conditions mirror past conditions that preceded regional housing busts. Twenty-four percent of the sub-prime loans, included in private label securities, were adjustable rate mortgages with an interest-only payment provision. More than 30% of sub-prime loans were topped with a home-equity loan granted at the same time. Overall, mortgage borrowings rose to an average of 91% of home values.We are totally convinced a national housing bubble exists and the risks to the economy are enormous. The Fed and government agencies are well aware of the situation. If they tighten the way they should, the stock market, bonds, real estate and pensions will all fall in value. If they do nothing and continue to inflate, the boom will get further out of hand and the resultant fall will be worse. If the interest rates are not quickly increased and the credit punchbowl removed the downside will be ghastly.Five years ago in early April 2000 we announced the end of the equity bubble and this fall we should start to see the end of the real estate bubble. Thanks to the Federal Reserve, one bubble led to another. It did not just happen that way; it was planned that way. The same crowd that saw equities fairly valued sees real estate fairly valued today. There are no fundamentals to drive the real estate market, only low interest rates. The situation is little different from 2000.Over 2-1/2 years the SP 500 fell 49%. Presently house price inflation is at a 25-year high in real terms. In the first quarter of 2005, double-digit house price inflation was evident in 23 states plus DC. In 25 of the top 100 metropolitan areas, the rate of home price appreciation was at least 20%. Investors, not owners are currently accounting for 11.5% of newly-originated conventional mortgage loans; that is up from a 2% low in late 1995. Mortgage financing is now a game of exotics; anything goes for now, who cares about tomorrow.Prompted by low interest rates and exotic mortgages and low investment returns most everyone has jumped on the real estate bandwagon. This is a global bubble with only a few exceptions. This is, as we have said many times, the biggest
[CTRL] Vatican/Nazis, porn ring
-Caveat Lector- scroll Old Balkan hatreds play out in court case A class-action lawsuit charges the Vatican Bank with a role in the flight of pro-Nazi henchmen and loot from Europe after World War II By Ron Grossman Tribune staff reporter 7/6/05 "Dorich, a Los Angeles book publisher, is the force behind a class-action lawsuit against the Vatican Bank and the Franciscan Order. Filed in a federal court in California, the suit alleges that immediately after World War II the bank--the financial arm of the Roman Catholic Church--helped fleeing members of a brutal, pro-Nazi regime in Croatia hide and launder millions of dollars worth of loot, including gold and jewelry taken from concentration camp prisoners. According to Dorich and his lawyers, those riches were used to help the pro-Nazi henchmen slip out of Europe and escape to South America in 1945 and after. Dorich, the son of a Serbian immigrant, recalled that dozens of his relatives were massacred by the Ustashe, a Croatian puppet government installed by the Nazis when they conquered the Balkans in the 1940s. U.S. government documents of the period show that some Ustashe leaders and many of their financial resources made it to Rome during the chaos of the war's final months." http://www.chicagotribune.com/ Former Cop Admits Role In Child Porn Ring - 12-Year Police Veteran Could Get 3 Years In Prison 7/8/05 - San Diego "A former San Diego police officer has pleaded guilty to felony and misdemeanor counts of child pornography as part of an international Internet child pornography ring being investigated by federal authorities. Brett Kenneth Hensley pleaded guilty to one felony count of using a minor to make child pornography and three misdemeanor counts of possessing child pornography, authorities announced Thursday. Hensley, 36, is one of 27 people in San Diego and Imperial counties arrested as part of the child porn ring, including members of the military, a priest, a school administrator and a teacher. More than 1,200 people have been arrested worldwide as part of the operation." http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/4700267/detail.html?rss=dgopsp=news www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substanceânot soap-boxingâplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'âwith its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsâis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/ctrl@listserv.aol.com/ A HREF=""ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: [ArtBell_Talk] Murder in Dealey Plaza-Dr James Fetzer
-Caveat Lector- Begin forwarded message:From: "Larry Hays" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Date: July 9, 2005 10:23:31 AM PDTTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [ArtBell_Talk] Murder in Dealey Plaza-Dr James FetzerReply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This book is in two part-a chronology of the events of November 22, 1963, and a series of essays about the assassination. The second part was routine for anyone familiar with the case-except for evidence that the whole Zapruder film has been tamered with to a much larger degree than we thought-in fact, the whole thing may be phony.But the chronology is chock-full of revelations. Jack Ruby was seen sitting in the rear of the Texas Theater as Oswald was being subdued by the police. There were many reports of a Secret Service agent being killed in the crossfire-but the subject was squelched early on. Was it a phony SS agent? Some guy from the Mafia or CIA or the Minute Men?Rifles were found all over the place-the Mauser originally found in the snipers nest, a British Enfield found on the roof of The Schoolbook Depository, a Winchester some witnesses saw at the window Oswald supposedly was at, and a rifle being taken down and carried away by two men on the grassy knoll.I highly recomment the chronolgy section of the book for any assassination buffs.Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ArtBell_Talk/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substanceânot soap-boxingâplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'âwith its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsâis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/ctrl@listserv.aol.com/ A HREF=""ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: [ctrl] The 9.11 Ratio
-Caveat Lector- Begin forwarded message:From: John D Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]Date: June 15, 2005 12:53:25 PM PDTTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [ctrl] The 9.11 RatioReply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] So lets get real. For most Americans cannot be 9.11 real. I do feel sorry for the American mind-set, because they won’t feel the wood when its covered in leaves. For America is controlled, says me, by the 'Group With No Name'. OK, now its when you bring the living God into the 9.11 picture that the truth is seen when using simple arithmetic.So let me proffer up that which screams out of the 570 foot high, 47-story World Trade Centre ‘Building Seven’ which collapsed at 5:20:33pm on Tuesday, September 11, 2001 because, they say, a ‘fire’ caused the smaller sky-scrapper to collapse, even though there has never been such a reason before. So the seismic signals at Palisades, N.Y. shows the collapse of Building Seven at 5:20:33pm EDT on Tuesday, September 11, 2001. OK, now God had planned before the creation of the Earth etc. that the day of the Crucifixion was to be Friday, April 7, AD30. And according to some Biblical arithmetic the date of the creation of Adam was April 7, 3873BC and 3,902 years before Adam 2 was crucified on April 7, AD30. And Eve was seemingly created on May 28th 3871BC and 3,900 years before the establishment of the Church at Pentecost at 9am on May 28, AD30 which was 1,470 years after Yahweh came down on Mount Sinai and spoke to Moses. For God told Moses to follow his instructions on how to make the Ark of the Covenant etc, and to lead the 2.8 million Israelites; a journey that lasted nearly 40 years in the wilderness. So the Israelites left the shadow of the Great Pyramid in say 1441BC. OK, now counting down from the collapse of the World Trade Centre ‘Buliding Seven’ at 5:20:33pm on Tuesday, September 11, 2001 to a moment after midnight, about the time of the arrest of Adam 2 on the Friday, April 7, AD30 is 1971.431830182 years and this time period squared once and divided by the two time periods of 3,900 and 3,902 years and reciprocated the square root is the ratio 1.97876478. Now, probably one of the most importand measurements in the world, is the internal volume of the sarcophagus in the King’s Chamber of the Great Pyramid, a voulume of 72,033.8604 cubic inches of 41.68626181 cubic feet. For this volume speaks of the Bride of Christ, the New Jerusalem, or the Daughter of Babylon. And the ratio 1.97876478 x the internal volume of the sarcophagus at 41.68626181 cubic feet is the full volume of the sarcophagus at 82.4873066 cubic feet (89.62 x 38.5 x 41.31095 inches). Anyway, so Adam at 3,902 x Eve at 3,900 years before AD30, and divided twice by the period from 12:00:01am Friday, April 7, AD30, the day of the crucifixion of Adam 2 to the collapse of Building Seven at 5:20:33pm Tuesday, September 11, 2001 and square root, the ratio is seen to form the internal volume of the sarcophagus to that of the external volume of the sarcophagus in the King’s Chamber of the Great Pyramid, an external sarcophagus that ‘came’ out of the Queen’s Chamber of the Great Pyramid. But even with this very accurate calculation to show that September 11, 2001 had been planned long ago by those AntiGod beings, most all Americans believe Osma bin Laden chose the date of September 11, 2001, which of course he didn’t, for he is but a puppet of the 'Group With No Name'. SadJohn D. MillerLondon, UK PS The sarcophagus out of the Queen’s Chamber. And coming close to this is the external volume of the sarcophagus at 82.4873073 cubic feet (an infinitesimal volume more than 82.4873066 cubic feet). Now the wall height of the Queen’s Chamber of the Great Pyramid gives a volume for the ‘Chamber of the Elohim’ as 4,990 cubic feet. And 4,990,000 squared and /6 and cube root and /2 and /Pi 4 times is 82.487073073 cubic feet, the external volume of the sarcophagus, thanks to the volume of the Chamber of the Elohim’ the mighty-god-angel-man. www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == ctrl is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis-directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, ctrl gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. ctrl gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. There are two list running, [EMAIL PROTECTED] and CTRL@listserv.aol.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] has unlimited posting and is more for discussion. CTRL@listserv.aol.com is more for informational exchange and has limited posting abilities. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Omimited posting abilities. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Om Yahoo! Groups
[CTRL] sources of energy unaffected by hurricanes....
-Caveat Lector- Here is a story on the oil sands available in canada http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/07/09/AR2005070900413.htm and of course on my energy page http://www.info-quest.org/Energy.html Sources include oil shale, coal,anwr production off shore weat coast and alaska, nuclear power plants, coal fired power plants all would be unaffected by hurricanes in the coast and Gulf of Mexico Remember:More people have died in Ted Kennedy's car than have died in United States Commercial Nuclear Power plant operations visit my web site at http://www.info-quest.org Visit my energy page at http://www.info-quest.org/Energy.html Check out the latest on the anwr drilling project http://www.anwr.org visit my blog at http://info-spectrum.blogspot.com My ICQ# is 79071904 See the Pledge of alleginace to the flag that the 9th circuit court of appeals doesn't want you to say. for a precise list of the powers of the Federal Government linkto: http://www.info-quest.org/Enumerated.html www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substanceânot soap-boxingâplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'âwith its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsâis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/ctrl@listserv.aol.com/ A HREF=http://www.mail-archive.com/ctrl@listserv.aol.com/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] how many people visit ANWR????
-Caveat Lector- For the sake of about 1,500 rich elite travelers, were going to stop the development of 15+ Billion barrels of oil?? background WHO ACTUALLY VISITS THE ARCTIC NATIONAL WILDLIFE REFUGE? The answer?: Not many. For most of the year, ANWR is unbearably cold and dark. For several weeks, the sun doesn't even rise and leaves the windswept landscape a very inhospitable environment. Only a few hundred people visit ANWR each year. Understanding the visitors of ANWR How many people actually visit this 'national treasure', Americas Serengeti'? In 1997, between 1,000-1,500 recreational visitors actually spent time within the 19 million acre Arctic National Wildlife Refuge (ANWR), a region the size of the State of South Carolina. Currently, exact number of recreationists are unknown. The U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service conservatively estimates the total at 1,000 to 1,500. Tom Edgerton, Arctic NWR, U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service Less than half of the total ANWR visitors, approximately, 500 750 visited the Coastal Plain area for such activities as rafting, hiking and hunting. Most visits occurred between mid-June and late August. Visitors to ANWR were down by half in 1997 compared to the highs of 1990. Recreational groups average eight people and spend an average of 10 days in the refuge. The Sierra Club conducts 6-10 activists group training trips every year to ANWR. These tours make up a major portion of the commercial visitors to the Coastal Plain. Costing $3,000 to $4,000 per person. In 1997, 46% of ANWR commercial clients visited the Coastal Plain. ANWR (entire including the Coastal Plain figures below) Hunters 215 clients Guided 78 Private 137 Hikers guided (approximately) 92 clients Rafters guided (approximately) 160 clients Coastal Plain (only) approximately Hikers guided 56 clients Rafters - guided 60 clients Source: The U.S. Fish and Wildlife, Tom Edgerton, Arctic NWR; October 28, 2000 :: Posted on January 26, 2005 :: :: Other Resources... View our ANWR Flash Movie! Search Web anwr.org Ten reasons to support responsible oil development in Arctic National Wildlife Refuge View our ANWR Powerpoint Presentation ANWR Quicklinks Media Kit Remember:More people have died in Ted Kennedy's car than have died in United States Commercial Nuclear Power plant operations visit my web site at http://www.info-quest.org Visit my energy page at http://www.info-quest.org/Energy.html Check out the latest on the anwr drilling project http://www.anwr.org visit my blog at http://info-spectrum.blogspot.com My ICQ# is 79071904 See the Pledge of alleginace to the flag that the 9th circuit court of appeals doesn't want you to say. for a precise list of the powers of the Federal Government linkto: http://www.info-quest.org/Enumerated.html www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substanceânot soap-boxingâplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'âwith its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsâis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/ctrl@listserv.aol.com/ A HREF=http://www.mail-archive.com/ctrl@listserv.aol.com/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: [ctrl] The Inevitability of George W. Bush
-Caveat Lector- Begin forwarded message:From: "Alamaine" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Date: July 9, 2005 2:24:08 PM PDTTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [ctrl] The Inevitability of George W. BushReply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] July 9 / 10, 2005A Man for Our TimesThe Inevitability of George W. Bushhttp://www.counterpunch.com/tripp07092005.htmlBy BEN TRIPPWith regrets for all the chaos and death and destruction, it was necessary that George W. Bush should ascend to power and retain it for two terms of office. He is a singularly giftless man, but he brings one gift to everyone: disaster. Placed at the pinnacle of the greatest military empire in human history, its wealth and reach unimaginable in Caesar's day, equipped with every conceivable advantage that the very most powerful, influential cabals of rulership and commerce and warmaking can bestow, all of their collective beneficence concentrated behind his every purpose, yet he will fail. Say what you will about the accomplices secretly running the show: Bush himself is the president. He is no dupe. A slobbering cretin nearly incapable of forming a coherent thought, or of operating a bicycle on a hill without running over a policeman; a feckless, soulless meta-bureaucrat with the attention span of a hydroencephalitic flea preoccupied with revenge, machismo, booze, and proving to his father he's not a latent homosexual: these things he indubitably is. But he's not a puppet merely. It is his magical ability to wrest defeat from the jaws of victory that will end America's unsuitable world domination. Then we can get on with averting the next ice age. Far too late to save what's left of the world as we know it, but that's the cosmic joke our species seems never to get, no matter how often the punch line is repeated.Bush is only the latest of many such necessary evildoers. There's always somebody. Hitler, an even more egregious schmekel than G.W. Bush, was the inevitable instrument of the destruction of Europe as it had been known for a thousand years. Things simply could not remain as they were, and he saw to it that they didn't. The Great War wasn't enough of a hint for those old countries whose pastime it had long been to annex each other and swap royal bloodlines, feeding their various empires on the flesh of distant lands. So along came Hitler with WWII. Unfortunately America, which came late to both World Wars, got to feeling superior and decided an empire could be done properly: it just needed to be run by folks that were elected, not handed the job through fortunate birth. We set about the task, our elected leaders passing the torch from one grasping claw to the next, and built up a pretty good portfolio of client states and resource-rich territories outside our borders. That showed those old-Europe types!Here's the problem. Empire is the sole purpose and certain downfall of political power. We got our post-European empire sure enough, paddling around in various bits of Asia before settling on oil-rich climes at the buckle between Eurasian shirt and African trousers. We got fat and complacent and began to believe our own press about the goodness and greatness and rightness of America, her jiggle kill blow-dried Surfer Jesus playtime commercial culture, anaesthetic low-calorie pilsner beers, and infinite opportunity for the right blend of complexion and connection. We began to imagine we were shaping the world to fit our image. This is the first symptom of a dying empire. Check out this kickin' toga, bro. Pretty soon everybody will be wearing them instead of pants. Hey, are those Visigoths? The second symptom is when the leaders start electing themselves by divine right or noble blood. The final symptom is that the popular weal ceases to be a factor in governance. One might argue that most empires were founded and maintained without the popular weal being considered at all, but this is simplistic. Empires rely on a mutual parasitism between leaders and people: you send us to war, we get cheap resources (or Poland). That sort of thing. Eventually, the rulers start running the show entirely for their own benefit, putting increasing downward pressure on the populace until society breaks down like my Fiat Cinquecento. Bingo! The spoils of a sprawling, resource-grabbing common enterprise have been diverted to a self-selecting few. The ticks are exsanguinating the hyena. What's next? A leader must emerge from the top ranks to ruin everything, pronto.That leader is George W. Bush. He brings his gift of failure to our nation and the world. That is the real similarity between him and Adolf Hitler. And various Caesars. And Richard of the Crusades. They come along at a time when empires need collapsing, after which the common business of mankind can proceed. That said, I'm hoping he gets it over with soonI'd look awful in a toga.Ben Tripp is an independent filmmaker and all-around swine. His book, Square In The Nuts, may be purchased here, with other outlets to
[CTRL] Fwd: [ctrl] 'Exercises' Took Place at Same Time as Real Attack
-Caveat Lector- Begin forwarded message:From: "Alamaine" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Date: July 9, 2005 2:24:07 PM PDTTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [ctrl] 'Exercises' Took Place at Same Time as Real AttackReply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] London Underground Bombing 'Exercises' Took Place at Same Time as Real AttackCulpability cover scenario echoes 9/11 wargameshttp://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/july2005/090705bombingexercises.htmPaul Joseph Watson Alex Jones/Prison Planet | July 9 2005A consultancy agency with government and police connections was running an exercise for an unnamed company that revolved around the London Underground being bombed at the exact same times and locations as happened in real life on the morning of July 7th.On a BBC Radio 5 interview that aired on the evening of the 7th, the host interviewed Peter Power, Managing Director of Visor Consultants, which bills itself as a 'crisis management' advice company, better known to you and I as a PR firm.Peter Power was a former Scotland Yard official, working at one time with the Anti Terrorist Branch.Power told the host that at the exact same time that the London bombings were taking place, his company was running a 1,000 person strong exercise which drilled the London Underground being bombed at the exact same locations, at the exact same times, as happened in real life.The transcript is as follows.POWER: At half past nine this morning we were actually running an exercise for a company of over a thousand people in London based on simultaneous bombs going off precisely at the railway stations where it happened this morning, so I still have the hairs on the back of my neck standing up right now.HOST: To get this quite straight, you were running an exercise to see how you would cope with this and it happened while you were running the exercise?POWER: Precisely, and it was about half past nine this morning, we planned this for a company and for obvious reasons I don't want to reveal their name but they're listening and they'll know it. And we had a room full of crisis managers for the first time they'd met and so within five minutes we made a pretty rapid decision that this is the real one and so we went through the correct drills of activating crisis management procedures to jump from slow time to quick time thinking and so on.Click here for a clip of this dialogue. Click here for a longer clip where the comments can be heard in their full context.The fact that the exercise mirrored the exact locations and times of the bombings is light years beyond a coincidence. Power said the drill focused around 'simultaneous bombings'. At first the bombings were thought to have been spread over an hour, but the BBC reports just today that the bombings were in fact simultaneous.Mr. Power (pictured above) and Visor Consultants need not have been 'in on the bombing' or anything of that nature for this to be of importance. The British government or one of their private company offshoots could have hired Visor to run the exercise for a number of purposes.The exercise fulfils several different goals. It acts as a cover for the small compartamentalized government terrorists to carry out their operation without the larger security services becoming aware of what they're doing, and, more importantly, if they get caught during the attack or after with any incriminating evidence they can just claim that they were just taking part in the exercise.This is precisely what happened on the morning of 9/11/2001. The CIA was conducting drills of flying hijacked planes into the WTC and Pentagon at 8:30 in the morning.It is clear that at least five if not six training exercises were in operation in the days leading up to and on the morning of 9/11. This meant that NORAD radar screens showed as many as 22 hijacked airliners at the same time. NORAD had been briefed that this was part of the exercise drill and therefore normal reactive procedure was forestalled and delayed.The large numbers of 'blips' on NORAD screens that displayed both real and 'drill' hijacked planes explain why confused press reports emerged hours after the attack stating that up to eight planes had been hijacked.The Anglo-American establishment that controls the military-industrial complex of the West has been caught over a hundred times carrying out bombings and other terrorist attacks around the world to further their corporate aims and to blame their enemies.The US government has been caught planning to carry out attacks and carrying out attacks. The British government has been caught red-handed as well. Members of Vladimir Putin's FSB were caught planting bombs in a Russian apartment building in 1999 by the Moscow police.This is not speculation. Kermit Roosevelt admited on NPR radio that in 1953 the CIA and British intelligence carried out a wave of bombings and shootings in Iran. He then went on to brag about how they subsequently blamed the bombings on Iran's President, Mossadegh. Do you understand, these people
Re: [CTRL] how many people visit ANWR???? (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- Remember:More people have died in Ted Kennedy's car than have died in United States Commercial Nuclear Power plant operations visit my web site at http://www.info-quest.org Visit my energy page at http://www.info-quest.org/Energy.html Check out the latest on the anwr drilling project http://www.anwr.org visit my blog at http://info-spectrum.blogspot.com My ICQ# is 79071904 See the Pledge of alleginace to the flag that the 9th circuit court of appeals doesn't want you to say. for a precise list of the powers of the Federal Government linkto: http://www.info-quest.org/Enumerated.html -- Forwarded message -- Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2005 18:09:36 -0400 (EDT) From: William A. Bacon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: thew [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ctrl] how many people visit ANWR Thew, And just how much is opec paying you off? You know only OPEC benefits from your attitude. Remember:More people have died in Ted Kennedy's car than have died in United States Commercial Nuclear Power plant operations visit my web site at http://www.info-quest.org Visit my energy page at http://www.info-quest.org/Energy.html Check out the latest on the anwr drilling project http://www.anwr.org visit my blog at http://info-spectrum.blogspot.com My ICQ# is 79071904 See the Pledge of alleginace to the flag that the 9th circuit court of appeals doesn't want you to say. for a precise list of the powers of the Federal Government linkto: http://www.info-quest.org/Enumerated.html On Sat, 9 Jul 2005, thew wrote: Maybe you don?t understand the word ?wildlife? but you see the point is this is NOT a people refuge from animals, but an animal refuge from people. It is not a zoo, and not a campground, and not a natural history museum, and not a park, and not a drilling ground, or mall. Is is a WILDLIFE refuge. There are values out there that are not defined by what people can wring out of something. On 7/9/05 3:01 PM, William A. Bacon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For the sake of about 1,500 rich elite travelers, were going to stop the development of 15+ Billion barrels of oil?? background WHO ACTUALLY VISITS THE ARCTIC NATIONAL WILDLIFE REFUGE? The answer?: Not many. For most of the year, ANWR is unbearably cold and dark. For several weeks, the sun doesn't even rise and leaves the windswept landscape a very inhospitable environment. Only a few hundred people visit ANWR each year. Understanding the visitors of ANWR How many people actually visit this 'national treasure', Americas Serengeti'? In 1997, between 1,000-1,500 recreational visitors actually spent time within the 19 million acre Arctic National Wildlife Refuge (ANWR), a region the size of the State of South Carolina. Currently, exact number of recreationists are unknown. The U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service conservatively estimates the total at 1,000 to 1,500. Tom Edgerton, Arctic NWR, U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service Less than half of the total ANWR visitors, approximately, 500 750 visited the Coastal Plain area for such activities as rafting, hiking and hunting. Most visits occurred between mid-June and late August. Visitors to ANWR were down by half in 1997 compared to the highs of 1990. Recreational groups average eight people and spend an average of 10 days in the refuge. The Sierra Club conducts 6-10 activists group training trips every year to ANWR. These tours make up a major portion of the commercial visitors to the Coastal Plain. Costing $3,000 to $4,000 per person. In 1997, 46% of ANWR commercial clients visited the Coastal Plain. ANWR (entire including the Coastal Plain figures below) Hunters 215 clients Guided 78 Private 137 Hikers guided (approximately) 92 clients Rafters guided (approximately) 160 clients Coastal Plain (only) approximately Hikers guided 56 clients Rafters - guided 60 clients Source: The U.S. Fish and Wildlife, Tom Edgerton, Arctic NWR; October 28, 2000 :: Posted on January 26, 2005 :: :: Other Resources... View our ANWR Flash Movie! Search Web anwr.org Ten reasons to support responsible oil development in Arctic National Wildlife Refuge View our ANWR Powerpoint Presentation ANWR Quicklinks Media Kit Remember:More people have died in Ted Kennedy's car than have died in United States Commercial Nuclear Power plant operations visit my web site at http://www.info-quest.org Visit my energy page at http://www.info-quest.org/Energy.html Check out the latest on the anwr drilling project http://www.anwr.org visit my blog at http://info-spectrum.blogspot.com My ICQ# is 79071904 See the Pledge of alleginace to the flag that the 9th circuit court of appeals doesn't want you to say. for a precise list of the powers of the Federal Government linkto: http://www.info-quest.org/Enumerated.html
Re: [CTRL] Carla Ross-Robertson, MoOssad agent assigned to me
-Caveat Lector- Is there anyone on this list who isn't sure that this woman is seriously insane??? B - Original Message - From: Laura Landsberg Hanning [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CTRL@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 12:35 AM Subject: [CTRL] Carla Ross-Robertson, MoOssad agent assigned to me -Caveat Lector- I was bothered by a woman a few years ago and wondered if she were Mossad. I've been a target for as long as I can remember, even before I found evidence that my father had to do with the single bullet theory in the JFK assassination. The close friend in another state mentioned in paragraph 4 has turned out also to be Mossad. I met a man last year and decided to leave my husband. I learned then that my marriage had been arranged by the military. All us Landsberg kids were targets because our parents were involved with the government covertly and we were having our lives controlled to varying degrees as a result. The second section is about the pentagon and the third about Ms. Ross-Robertson. Laura http://home.earthlink.net/~lhann10243/ http://home.earthlink.net/~sammark4/ Subject : [ACHES_FORUM] curious about Mossad, brief description of recent experience Date : Wed, 24 Oct 2001 17:28:23 - Reply Reply All ForwardDelete Printer Friendly Version Reading various news items related to the recent attack has raised my curiosity again about the Mossad and possible Mossad connections in my recent and earlier past. To borrow Lynn S's phrase, a full court press, this year's full court press for me seemed to begin with an odd situation involving a Jewish couple. The wife had lived in Israel for ten years. They moved here just after we did, and our husbands were colleagues. We had so much in common with this couple it was uncanny. It provided a basis for instant bonding, which immediately made me cautious. This couple pushed very hard to socialize with us, which also made me wary. I eventually agreed to meet the wife once a week for a girl's night out but it didn't go very well. Since she'd pushed so hard for my company, I thought maybe she liked me, or enjoyed our conversations. But it wasn't true. I found this to be triggering and confusing. I was inundated with mixed messages. Her mouth would smile and form words of friendship but her eyes told a different story. She disliked and disdained me - her facial expressions and body language were very clear on this. She also looked very much like a close friend in another state, and that was a coincidence that eventually made me think it was no accident. The mixed messages were intense. One night over dinner, we were talking about Israeli-US politics and how GW's administration might change the relationship between the two countries. She wasn't the least bit concerned because the US needs Israel. She went on to say that ALL US military hardware for use in desert settings was tested in Israel alone. I found that surprising and am not sure I believe it, but while she was explaining this, I had the distinct impression that she knew a lot more about military things than a regular former Israeli citizen should. It was a very strong impression I got - bordering on the psychic - that she was more involved in Israeli politics/military than her outside life would indicate. I trusted my instincts and decided not to see her any more after that evening. She pushed - called and left messages about all the fun we'd been having, etc. But I resisted to the point of rudeness. Too many mixed feelings, too many signs of a set-up. She and her husband moved away after a few months - related or unrelated to my experience with her I don't know. I do know that my relationship with others of my husband's colleagues and their wives changed for the worse right after this. Women in social siutations would avoid me - very pointedly. I sat down at my given seat during an event, and another woman was to be seated next to me. She sat down for a brief moment and then made a distinct point of changing seats with her mate so she wouldn't be next to me. She did this so pointedly that even my husband noticed, and felt badly for me. This kind of odd behavior has occurred with two other women since then. I suspect there are rumors that I am a lesbian. Where they originated I do not know, but the oddness of timing of the events lead me to suspect this curious Israeli/American woman. That's how this very odd and intense year began for me. I would like to understand my alleged importance to these various parties who have intruded on my life this year, but I'm not having much luck. Perhaps I was supposed to be reactivated this year, but for what I don't know. If I haven't received this negative attention for reactivation, then I suspect I've received it in order that I might be discredited. Laura Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT []
Re: [CTRL] INTERNATIONAL ORDER OF 12 ( 777 and 333 )
-Caveat Lector- Mike that is very interesting to me. Do you have morfe info? www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substanceânot soap-boxingâplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'âwith its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsâis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/ctrl@listserv.aol.com/ A HREF=""ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Rollerball 2002
-Caveat Lector- But one basic rule in this sort of thing is that you must never kill a tyrant ... ...unless you've made an arrangement with his successor. You do see what I mean, don't you? Yeah. It means I'm not done yet.-Ain't a bad movie. Peace, OmK www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substanceânot soap-boxingâplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'âwith its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsâis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/ctrl@listserv.aol.com/ A HREF=""ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: Andy Stephenson: In memory of an American Patriot
-Caveat Lector- Begin forwarded message:From: TomFlocco@cs.comDate: July 9, 2005 5:26:45 PM PDTSubject: Andy Stephenson: In memory of an American Patriot Andy's Spirit now flies for us Andy Stephenson (1963-2005) In Memoriam .The good die young. All-time American patriotic "good guy" Andy Stephenson passed away on Thursday, July 7, 2005 at 6:27 EST/9:27 PST after a rather short but heroic bout with pancreatic cancer. The many thousands who understood his cause and who contributed to the cost of his operation proved the effect he was having upon citizens from coast to coast. It was their "thank-you." A terrific friend to all patriotic Americans attempting to set the country back on the right course, Andy was passionate about corruption in the American voting system. So intense was his desire to prevent U.S. legislators from allowing elections to be "fixed," Andy set about channeling his life to affect real change by going from city to city explaining potential evils of the new electronic voting machines, i.e. continuous hacking and no paper trail for honest recounts. (The machines are now being forced on all 50 states) Andy demonstrated to countless audiences around the U.S.A. how connected modems could be used to hack the results of any election--making it impossible to throw Presidents, Senators Congressmen out of office! Having talked to Andy many times on the phone, he helped me with info for a few of my stories and I can tell everyone that Andy was an incredible researcher--one who was able to connect pieces of an investigative puzzle with ease. Moreover, Andy opened my eyes to the astonishing hypocrisy of the current administration with regard to pedophilia, homosexuality and the duping of "people of faith" for selfish electoral purposes. He mailed me countless court documents for two of my most widely read stories about Capitol Hill pedophilia. Andy, you packed a lot of life into your 42+ years. And I have a feeling all Americans "in the know" will join me in asking God to bring us someone else like you who will pick up your flag for "honest elections," even if it takes a second straight presidential impeachment (and hopefully removal with handcuffs a prison term) to cleanse America of pre-emptive war, an obvious "false-flag" 9/11 attack, millions of illegal aliens and stolen trillions from the U.S. Treasury which is destroying America economically. ...Yes, your Spirit now flies for all of us... May the Lord bless you, Andy--and may you rest in peace. your friends, Tom Flocco and "WHITESTAR" TomFlocco.com www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substanceânot soap-boxingâplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'âwith its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsâis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/ctrl@listserv.aol.com/ A HREF=""ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: [Spy News] Intelligence failure is ruled out
-Caveat Lector- Begin forwarded message:From: "Mario Profaca" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Date: July 9, 2005 4:54:50 PM PDTTo: "!SPY NEWS" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [Spy News] Intelligence failure is ruled outReply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gulf-daily-news.com/Story.asp?Article=116590Sn=WORLIssueID=28111Intelligence failure is ruled outVol XXVIII NO. 111Saturday 9th July 2005LONDON: British Home Secretary Charles Clarke admitted yesterday that theLondon bomb attacks that killed more than 50 people "came out of the blue"and insisted that they did not represent a failure by intelligence services."As far as the general threat assessment was concerned, we didn't have priorknowledge of this attack," he said, after questions were raised about thealertness status of the security services."We obviously are looking very carefully at all our intelligence to see ifanything was missed, but in fact we don't believe anything was missed. Itjust came out of the blue," Clarke told Sky News television.British newspapers focused on the status of the security services, andhighlighted a recent decision to downgrade the terror threat level to itslowest point since the September 2001 attacks on New York and Washington."The timing of Thursday's seemingly co-ordinated attacks on the capital'stransport system appears to have exploited a weak link in the chain ofintelligence and a fatal lapse in security," the Financial Times said.Clarke said the alert status system would be re-examined, but he deniedclaims that London's security had been compromised because police officerswere deployed to Scotland for the G8 summit."Obviously it was wrong. We have looked very carefully at the threat we arenow under, particularly in the light of events yesterday, and the threatlevel will be increased," he said."We will reinforce all our efforts to minimise the chances of any otherterrorist attack being successful."-__ ___ _ ___ __ ___ _ _ _ __ /-_|-0-\-V-/-\|-|-__|-|-|-/-_| \_-\--_/\-/|-\\-|-_||-V-V-\_-\ |__/_|--//-|_|\_|___|\_A_/|__/ SPY NEWS is OSINT newsletter and discussion list associated to Mario's Cyberspace Station - The Global Intelligence News Portal http://mprofaca.cro.net CAUTION! # Since you are receiving and reading documents, news stories,comments and opinions not only from so called (or self-proclaimed) "reliable sources", but also a lot of possible misinformation collectedby Spy News moderator and subscribers and posted to Spy Newsfor OSINT purposes - it should be a serious reason (particularly tojournalists and web publishers) to think twice before using it for theirstory writing, further publishing or forwarding throughout Cyberspace.To unsubscribe:mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]*** FAIR USE NOTICE: This message contains copyrighted material whose use has not been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. Spy News is making it available without profit to SPY NEWS eGroup members who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information in their efforts to advance the understanding of intelligence and law enforcement organizations, their activities, methods, techniques, human rights, civil liberties, social justice and other intelligence related issues, for non-profit research and educational purposes only. We believe that this constitutes a 'fair use' of the copyrighted material as provided for in section 107 of the U.S. Copyright Law. If you wish to use this copyrighted material for purposes of your own that go beyond 'fair use,' you must obtain permission from the copyright owner.For more information go to:http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml --- SPY NEWS home page: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/spynews Mario Profaca http://mprofaca.cro.net/ Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/spynews/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substanceânot soap-boxingâplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'âwith its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsâis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/ctrl@listserv.aol.com/ A HREF=""ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send
[CTRL] directly produced anti-western terrorist attacks, with the full awareness of western government elements maintaining these 'ties with the devil'
-Caveat Lector- http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1566565960/ref=pd_ecc_rvi_7/103-4859868-5914262?%5Fencoding=UTF8v=glanceAnd he ties it all together with a fascinating overview of how al qaeda DOES exist, was created by the western powers, but ultimately manipulated and coopted by them not only during the Cold War but well after the end of the Soviet Union until today in the Balkans, the Caucasus, the Asia-Pacific, Central Asia, the Middle East (yes, including Pakistan and Saudi Arabia), etc. Most disturbingly he demonstrates beyond doubt that these policies inevitably and directly produced anti-western terrorist attacks, with the full awareness of western government elements maintaining these 'ties with the devil',as Ahmed ironically describes them. And his focus is not only Bush, but Clinton. Not only the USA, but Europe and Britain. As for his discussion of the hijackers - I've never read such a detailed and well documented account of the odd liaisons between the US military intelligence services and the alleged 9/11 hijackers. Ahmed doesn't bother going round in circles wondering whether or not the hijackers existed, or were actually on the plane, or not - he simply presents report after report showing that these guys were monitored round-the-clock by the CIA and FBI both before and after their entry into our country, were trained by the US military, and were steeped in completely anti islamic practices like alcohol, cocaine, and lap dancing. And he clearly suggests, at one point, that these guys were probably double agents, although with characteristic and welcome caution, he doesn't labour the point and again leaves it to us to make up our own minds. www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substanceânot soap-boxingâplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'âwith its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsâis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/ctrl@listserv.aol.com/ A HREF=""ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: [cia-drugs] Breaking: U.S and U.K. secretly preparing to withdraw from Iraq!
-Caveat Lector- Begin forwarded message:From: MA PA [EMAIL PROTECTED]Date: July 9, 2005 5:53:26 PM PDTTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [cia-drugs] Breaking: U.S and U.K. secretly preparing to withdraw from Iraq!Reply-To: cia-drugs@yahoogroups.comBreaking: U.S and U.K. secretly preparing to withdraw most of their troops from Iraq!--SECRET PLAN TO QUIT IRAQ Sat Jul 09 2005 19:16:16 ETBRITAIN and America are secretly preparing to withdraw most of their troops from Iraq - despite warnings of the grave consequences for the region, the SUNDAY MAIL in UK is reporting.A secret paper written by UK Defence Secretary John Reid for Tony Blair reveals that many of the 8,500 British troops in Iraq are set to be brought home within three months, with most of the rest returning six months later.The leaked document, marked Secret: UK Eyes Only, appears to fly in the face of Mr Blair and President Bush's pledges that Allied forces will not quit until Iraq's own forces are strong enough to take control of security.Continued:http://www.livejournal.com/users/mparent/#entry_883097Orhttp://www.livejournal.com/users/mparent/883097.html MARC PARENT CRIMES AND CORRUPTIONS OF THE NEW WORLD ORDER NEWS http://www.livejournal.com/~mparent http://www.livejournal.com/users/mparent __Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Complete archives at http://www.sitbot.net/ Please let us stay on topic and be civil. OM YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "cia-drugs" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substanceânot soap-boxingâplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'âwith its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsâis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/ctrl@listserv.aol.com/ A HREF=""ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
