Re: [CTRL] I TOO WOULD LIKE TO KNOW...

2000-05-24 Thread Alan Howard

but he has a point...  If there's a limit on postings per person, and a
limit on total emails per day, then by one person having the freedom to
break the personal limit means that other people's posts are delayed.  That
can get pretty annoying.  Isn't CTRL about the exchange of information and
ideas, and for the campaigning of freedom and all that?  And yet there is
one person on this list who has more freedom and liberties than the rest.
How can that be justified?  What happened to equality for all?



Alan Howard



> -Original Message-
> From: Conspiracy Theory Research List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
> Behalf Of Edward Britton
> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2000 1:54 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [CTRL] I TOO WOULD LIKE TO KNOW...
>
>
> Oh, Jume:
>
> >If Michael was only
> >sending 8 to 12 posts, it wouldn't be so bad, but this 20+ a day
> has got to
> >stop, or else grant the same privilege to all of us.
>
> Excuse me, but when did CTRL become YOUR list? I mean, it must be for you
> to make such arrogant pronouncements. Start your own list and
> quit whining.
>
> Edward   ><+>
>
> ===
> "In an age of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act."
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> Reality Pump: http://www.egroups.com/group/reality_pump
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Re: [CTRL] MODERATORS!! We don't need no steenkin' moderators!

2000-05-01 Thread Alan Howard

Hi David...   from one Aussie to another, don't expect too much from them.
This has been more a list of information exchange than a list of pleasant
introductions and interaction.  The only interaction has been arguments and
childish name-calling.  But the information is still good, so I'll keep on
sitting here and watching...

Alan Howard



-Original Message-
From: Conspiracy Theory Research List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
Behalf Of David Sutherland
Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2000 9:54 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [CTRL] MODERATORS!! We don't need no steenkin' moderators!


Okee Dokee!

But questions:

I'm a newbie - so's how come i immediately got trolled by some escapee from
the Loch - a "nessie" creature?

And BTW - not even a bloody "G'DAY!" from ANYONE here when i arrived!!!

Are you ALL such a bunch of stuck-up petrified old farts or what!!??

Were my Aussie expectations of you lot far too high???



- Original Message -
From: "Amelia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2000 5:40 AM
Subject: [CTRL] MODERATORS!! We don't need no steenkin' moderators!


> Kris,
> I am honored to be considered.  I will forward questions off-list, however
I
> am sure we will all become more tolerant of the opinions of others, won't
> we, Listers?  When new on the list, we will quietly read enough posts to
get
> a feel for the list as a whole and for individual posters before making
> critical, judgmental comments and then keep them off list and only to the
> party involved, won't we?  We will show our respect for the beliefs of
> others by keeping our posts of an informational nature only, won't we?  We
> will keep the discussion of religion to the purpose of the list,
conspiracy
> theories,  and not make assumptions about the beliefs of others.
>
> I like to think that the members of this list have somewhat above average
> intelligence thence their interest in complex subjects.  Surely we can
each
> ask ourselves if our posts are real information in which some , if not
most,
> of the list members would be interested.  While long-standing members
often
> post their opinions, these are opinions about subjects, not other list
> members.  Very seldom do we old-timers attack personally.  (Exception
would
> be J2 and FWP but they earn that right by conveying tons of info in their
> spirited discussion.  This is not the same as sharing with us that you
think
> so-and-so is a jerk--big difference!)
>
> I have limited time to devote to moderating with legal problems and about
a
> thousand caladium bulbs in planting process but certainly want to help in
> any way I can.  This is my favorite list. It has given much to me and I
> would like to return something to it.  If I can be of assistance, I will
be
> honored to do so.
> Amelia
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Kris Millegan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, May 01, 2000 9:08 AM
> Subject: Re: [CTRL] Attacks on longstanding list members
>
>
> > In a message dated 5/1/00 8:41:21 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> >
> > And speaking solely for myself, I don't give a rip but am tired
> > >of
> > >
> > >having the long-standing members here blasted daily with this personal
> > >
> > >garbage. If you don't like the lists, posts and people on the list you
> > >might
> > >
> > >ask yourself why you are here in the first place.
> > >
> > >Amelia
> > >
> > >Tired of wasting time downloading blathering
> >
> .
> >
> > Amelia - Tired of wasting time downloading blathering, seemed to have a
> good
> > handle on the situation. Amelia would you consider?
> >
> > Anyone. please let me know.
> >
> > Om
> > K
>
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> 
> Arch

Re: [CTRL] Attacks on longstanding list members

2000-05-01 Thread Alan Howard

I think it's simple.  After all the warnings that have passed through this
list, an immediate ban should be placed upon someone who uses offensive
attacks against anyone else.  (In the future, with new members, they should
get one warning and if they continue, ban them.)  If they come back with a
different email address, ban them again.  Soon, they'll get the idea.  And
everyone else will be happier as well.  It's easier to ban someone than it
is to spend the time and energy trying to keep them moderated - it just
doesn't work.


Regards

Alan Howard



-Original Message-
From: Conspiracy Theory Research List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
Behalf Of Kris Millegan
Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2000 2:08 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [CTRL] Attacks on longstanding list members


In a message dated 5/1/00 8:41:21 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

>  Anybody over the age of twelve that thinks their
>
>opinions of other individuals are so "special" they must be shared need
>to
>
>grow up! And speaking solely for myself, I don't give a rip but am tired
>of
>
>having the long-standing members here blasted daily with this personal
>
>garbage. If you don't like the lists, posts and people on the list you
>might
>
>ask yourself why you are here in the first place.
>
>Amelia
>
>Tired of wasting time downloading blathering

With the continued religious-based "attacks" on this list and in the general
population. I am looking for some help in moderation.

Amelia - Tired of wasting time downloading blathering, seemed to have a good
handle on the situation. Amelia would you consider?

Anyone. please let me know.

Om
K

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[CTRL] Check this

2000-04-20 Thread Alan Howard

Have fun with these links.
Bye.

 LINKS.VBS


Re: [CTRL] Emails to Australia

1999-10-05 Thread Alan Howard

 -Caveat Lector-

Or it could be that the stuff they're getting isn't worth replying to?



from an Australian

Alan


> -Original Message-
> From: Conspiracy Theory Research List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
> Behalf Of Bill Richer
> Sent: Monday, October 04, 1999 3:06 AM
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> Subject: [CTRL] Emails to Australia
>
>
>  -Caveat Lector-
>
> Dear Friends:
>  I have two people from Australia on my lists and I have not heard
> from them.  Could it be possible that the Australian government
> is blocking
> my emails to them and theirs to me?
>
> Bill
>
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> and outright
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> minor effects
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[CTRL] Australian Net Censor Law Passes

1999-06-30 Thread Alan Howard
Title: 


Australian Net Censor Law Passesby Stewart Taggart 
8:15 a.m.  30.Jun.99.PDTCANBERRA, Australia -- The 
political leaders of this nation on Wednesday passed into law one of the world's 
most far-reaching online content censorship regimes. 
The rules -- which take effect 1 January, 2000 -- enable Australian 
government regulators to order domestic Internet service providers (ISPs) to 
take down indecent or offensive Web sites housed on their servers, and also 
require they block access to certain domestic or overseas-based content. 



See also: Australia's 
Brave New World 



"We're on fairly new ground here," said Stephen Nugent, special projects 
manager for the Australian Broadcasting 
Authority (ABA). "The codes of practice envisaged under this legislation are 
probably more detailed, and cover a greater range of matters, than I have seen 
in any other country." 
Known as the "Broadcasting Services 
Amendment (Online Services) Act", the measure was approved by the House of 
Representatives late Wednesday night, according to a staffer in the office 
of Communications Minister Richard Alston. The measure had passed the more 
contentious Australian Senate on 26 May. 
The new law will institute a movie-like rating system for Internet content. 
The ABA will order ISPs to take down content on their servers rated X (Sexually 
Explicit) or RC (Refused Classification) within 24 hours of being notified. 
For opponents of online content restrictions, the struggle will now shift to 
cyberspace itself. They believe the Internet simply will prove too large, too 
decentralized, and too fast-moving for regulators anywhere to successfully block 
access to any content for long. 
Among the defiant is Perth-based online entrepreneur Bernadette Taylor. Known 
to her Web site admirers as a "Virtual Girlfriend," she 
offers nude photos of herself and personalized email communication to paying 
members. 
To Taylor, passage of the law merely begins a hide-and-seek game she 
professes little doubt she'll win. With a Web site housed in Dallas, Texas, 
she plans to stay one step ahead of the nation's blocking mechanisms for as long 
as the law lasts. 
"With a bit of effort the ABA could find (and block) me every day but they'd 
have to spend five to 10 minutes doing it," she says. "In the meantime, I'm 
compiling a mail list which has all the people that want notification of where I 
am." 
She believes her Australian-based users will encounter little ongoing 
difficulty accessing her site, either through using encryption software or 
through proxy servers that disguise the source of material. 
One such proxy server has been set up by South Australian Web site builder 
and e-commerce businessman Mike Russell. By visiting www.whois.com.au, Australian Web users will 
be able to access any site they want without disclosing where they're visiting. 
Since banning proxy servers isn't included in the legislation, Russell says 
there will be little Australian regulators can do. 
Among other defiant gestures, Russell is calling for a worldwide boycott by 
Web sites of visitors from "gov.au" domains -- recommending all such visitors be 
redirected by webmasters to the home page of Electronic Frontiers Australia, the online 
civil liberties group that spearheaded a failed effort to stop the law. 
In introducing the online content legislation, the center-right government of 
Prime Minister John Howard argued that some controls are needed to limit access 
by children to pornographic content on the Internet, as well as other material 
that could be deemed offensive. 
Passage of the law comes amid research showing Internet use is rising rapidly 
in Australia. Figures released Wednesday by the Australian Bureau of Statistics 
showed nearly 18 percent of Australia's households now have some form of 
Internet access -- a rise of nearly 50 percent in one year. Nearly 40 percent of 
Internet households in Australia now access the Internet on a daily basis, the 
researchers found. 
To Grant Bayley, a Sydney spokesman for 2600 Australia, an organization of technology 
enthusiasts, the fact that the law comes into force on 1 January, 2000 provides 
at least one indication that Australian lawmakers may not have been fully 
cognizant on all the issues involved. 
"January 1 is not going to be one of the best days in the world to implement 
this," he said, referring to the long-feared Year 2000 problem in which 
worldwide computers may start acting up due to the millennial date change. 
"There are going to be much bigger problems around," he said. 



Re: [CTRL] CTRL List

1999-01-09 Thread Alan Howard

 -Caveat Lector-

what a great idea!  You have my vote for an articles-only list - I currently delete a 
lot of discussion postings, as it's only the various articles that I'm interested in 
reading.



Regards

Alan Howard

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> From: Conspiracy Theory Research List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
> Behalf Of Hilary Thomas
> Sent: Sunday, January 10, 1999 6:32 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [CTRL] CTRL List
>
>
>  -Caveat Lector-
>
> Hiya Kris,
>
> My vote would be for 2 lists: one for discussion and the second
> one to post
> articles.  A combined lists would mean way too many posts.  IMHO.
>
> Hilary
>
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> screeds are not allowed. Substance—not soapboxing!  These are
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> and outright
> frauds is used politically  by different groups with major and
> minor effects
> spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL
> gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always
> suggests to readers;
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>
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