Re: [CTRL] Fwd: [cia-drugs] Ford Funds the Palestinian Left

2004-02-10 Thread Daniel Harrison
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h...  it sounds a lot like israeli propaganda


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Re: [CTRL] The New Tools Of The Pedaphile

2004-02-08 Thread Daniel Harrison
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i dont see one condemnation of pedaphiles in this article, why?

On Mon, 9 Feb 2004 01:38, you wrote:
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 Greetings Fellow Listers,

   Isn't it interesting how the Internet has exposed the secret avenues of
 influence the old and not so old use to impose their lascivious intents on
 the very
 very young? The way the pedophile gravitates to jobs and places that
 maximize their
 exposures to the object of their affections - children is well documented.
 The schoolyard
 and the enticement of a piece of candy has been replaced by the chatroom
 and the stroke of  preying upon a child's natural curiosity of  what they
 may feel is the unknown world
 of pleasant though forbidden feelings.

  --

The group home, and the  growing populace of the senior now young
 adults, living in   the basement, a place where many thankfully graduate to
 rather than
 entering the populace of those living in the homeless shelters. Adult kids
 who know the
 ropes very well, many a 'sandman' comes from this populace. And finally
 there are the
 operators,  folks, who in some cases harbor serious mental issues,
 challenges for
 living.


  All now  placed a whisper away from a sleeping, albeit disturbed child
 who is probably more sexually experienced than many reading this email.

 A disturbed child who spurned the helping hand of the city paid p
 sychiatrist who makes house calls to such places. A child who does not
 respond well to
 living in a place where she feels a relational disadvantage. Naturally she
 is always
 looking for a handle to lift herself up with. The last few nights she has
 been
 therapeutically flying around the empire state building, and leaping high
 above the tree
 tops, playing tag with the sparrows, and taking a quick glimpsing into the
 eyes of the
 hawk.

  Tonight, or rather this morning she is going meet the 'jelly roll.'
 And in that meeting she is going to feel herself being put back into a
 comfortable place, a
 place she feels a degree of power. There is no control in childhood. The
 smile of
 innocence will giveway to an expression of that dulled physically embracing
 mask of
 'feel good.'

 This morning between 3 and 5 am, Rico the sandman will come calling for
 the first of many visits
 .
 Maria, the eleven year old woman is about to come forth.


  --


 Thanks to the internet we now know the ins and outs
 of these once hidden methodologies


  -


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Re: [CTRL] [THE-DIALECTIC-OF-THE-DIALECTIC] Re: [Antifeminismclub] AntichrisT (fwd)

2004-02-08 Thread Daniel Harrison
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Enlighten me please, what could there possibly be that jews are better than
others in being or doing, for the life of me i cant think of anything...
that could actually make you possibly think your any better i mean you dont
even seem to have a nice personallity, feel sorry for the wife though mate!

On Mon, 9 Feb 2004 09:43, you wrote:
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 -- Forwarded message --
 Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2004 14:32:00 -0800 (PST)
 From: Party of Citizens [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 [THE-DIALECTIC-OF-THE-DIALECTIC] Re: [Antifeminismclub] AntichrisT

 On Sun, 8 Feb 2004, Christianparty wrote:
   You have no reasoning ability. Tell us why St. Paul called
   himself The Jew of Tarsus?
  
   Zandu Goldbar
   The Jew of Vancouver

 (Also Learned Elder of Zion)

  According to jew propaganda, you could convert to Talmudism, reject
  Christ, and refer to yourself  as the jew of Canada just as Paul
  jokingly referred to himself as the jew of Tarsus.

 Where is your evidence Paul was joking?

 Can you find any place in the NT where Paul calls himself a Christian?
 Christianity Today is just a Cult of Liars as you are a liar.

 The original disciples of Christ were Israelites and Jews and NEVER CEASED
 TO BE SO, irrespective of name games. Only we have RIGHT OF RETURN TO
 ISRAEL despite the heretical teachings of the Grovelling Grahams and other
 pray tv types who only concede right of return to latter-day Edomites
 OPPOSED to the teachings of Christ, ie BY DEFINITION ANTICHRISTS (I John
 2:22).

  Obviously Paul CONVERTED to the jew religion by studying under the
  Pharisee Gamaliel, and even though Paul was an ISRAELITE, was able to
  legitimately CLAIM that he became AS a jew, TO the jews, in order to
  GAIN the jews.

 Christ became as a jew just as He became as a human. Before Abraham
 was, I am. Being at the epicentre of all creation means the capability of
 becoming as anything. Name some of the ways God spoke to man in the OT.
 God can use the medium of a human personality or the wind or anything.
 God can even use the medium of an ass (Balaam's ass and yourself being
 cases in point).

 The jews GAINED were the jews who were the TRUE ISRAELITES from the
 cultural mish-mash the Romans had created by forcing a
 geopolitical-religious merger of Israelite and Edomite jews. Note that
 Jesus Christ did not say He came only to find the lost sheep of Edom; only
 the lost sheep of Israel. He said the true Israelites would recognize His
 voice, ie His message, as TRUTH. You do not recognize that message
 because the truth came before the message. You adhere to YOUR vain
 interpretation of that message. Vanity of vanities, all is vanity.
 You do not comprehend it with the Spirit of Truth.

 You VULGARIZE, ie debase the teachings of Christ as do the NOW TV, Trinity
 Western University types, the members of the Cult of Liars.

  It's called irony, POS.  It was a big ha-ha-ha for an Israelite like
  Paul to convert to being a jew.

 The joke is on you. Any honest jurist knows you as a LIAR in a CULT OF
 LIARS, a vulgarization of the teachings of Christ called Christianity
 Today.

  John Knight
 
  1Co 9:20 And I became as a Jew to the Jews, that I might gain Jews; to
  those under Law as under Law, that I might gain those under Law

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Re: [CTRL] False Casualty Counts... of just false assumptions ?

2004-01-29 Thread Daniel Harrison
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Can you point to which reports suggest of any mercenry organisations or
release-deal inmates roaming around iraq??  as i havent seen any and would be
intresting in looking at this?

On Fri, 30 Jan 2004 04:29, you wrote:
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 Apparent inconsistencies here could be explained by clever use of
 sematic/linguistic wordsmithing ? (tho' I have no evidence to suggest
 that they do so in this case).

 Maybe some of the '12 US soldiers' carried away from the scene as
 described by witnesses were not US miltary or std GI - although three of
 them were (as stated).

 Many reports out there suggest that there are plenty of civilian
 personnel and other mercenary organisations (essentially privatised
 special ops military units, or release-deal inmates) being employed to
 serve either with, or even instead of, the US Army.

 Thinks ?.

 T.

  In a CENTCOM press release for the incident, the US Military claims that
  three task force All American soldiers were killed in the blast by the
  Improvised Explosive Device (IED), and one Iraqi killed. The press
  release also states that one soldier and several Iraqis were wounded.
  Witnesses at the scene today told a very different story, as did
  personnel
  at the Ramadi Hospital where the civilian Iraqi casualties were taken.
 
  Mohammed (last name withheld), a 25 year old Iraqi man who lives near
  the scene, said, I saw 12 US soldiers killed. Body parts were
  everywhere. There were also at least 5 injured.

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Re: [CTRL] Fw: DoD Homeland Defense Official Convinced Terrorists Would use WMD

2004-01-28 Thread Daniel Harrison
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If al Qaeda and other terrorists were given even half an opening, they
would use weapons of mass destructions within the United States, said DoD's
official responsible for homeland defense.

hold on didnt the tha bush guy just open up more than half the border between
us and mexico?  bit more than half an opening wouldnt you say..

hope you guys in us are ready for another government designed attack to keep
you guys in line, pretty obvious its going to happen soon as i read you guys
are actually starting to doubt the lies bush is spinning and ask questions.
Shame on you dont you trust his honest texan face anymore?

also seems they injected clark into the race as a replacement for bush eh!
please dont elect that guy either. please pleasse please please (thats
only IF you get a chance to vote this year)

-Daniel Harrison

(if you gave me half a chance id kill tha bastard myself, though i wouldnt
want to make him a martyr).


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 DoD Homeland Defense Official Convinced Terrorists Would Use WMD
 By Sgt. 1st Class Doug Sample, USA
 American Forces Press Service

 WASHINGTON, January 26, 2004 -- If al Qaeda and other terrorists were given
 even half an opening, they would use weapons of mass destructions within
 the United States, said DoD's official responsible for homeland defense.

Paul McHale, assistant secretary of defense for homeland defense,
 addresses members of the Reserve Officers Association Jan. 26 at the
 group's mid-winter meeting in Washington. McHale encouraged reserve
 officers to continue the fight against terrorism. Photo by Sgt. 1st Class
 Doug Sample, USA (Click photo for screen-resolution image); high-resolution
 image available.

 That's a chilling but hard reality, Paul McHale, assistant secretary of
 defense for homeland defense told members of the Reserve Officers
 Association here today. He said he's personally convinced that we must be
 prepared not only to defeat such attacks, but, God forbid, to respond to
 them.

 McHale spoke at the mid-winter conference of the association, which
 represents about 78,000 Reserve and regular officers, both active and
 retired.

 He told the officers that in the foreseeable future many of them will be
 called upon as part of the nation's WMD response capability and warned them
 that transnational terrorism has changed the battlefield they will be
 fighting on.

 We have passed from the Cold War to al Qaeda, he noted. We have had to
 face the harsh reality that our enemy now considers [the continental United
 States] to be a primary battlefront and we have no doubt that if given the
 opportunity, they will attack us with weapons of mass destruction.

 But McHale also gave details of how the Guard and Reserves would fit into
 U.S. plans to counter such threats at home.

 The U.S. Northern Command has been a major element in U.S. homeland defense
 since it was established in the aftermath of the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks.
 Part of NORTHCOM's mission is to conduct operations to prevent and defeat
 threats and aggression against the United States and its territories. The
 command has few permanently assigned units, and will likely be assigned
 Guard and Reserve forces, when needed, McHale explained.

 Counterterrorism is normally a civilian law enforcement function of forces
 such as the local police and FBI. McHale said that as part of NORTHCOM,
 Guard and Reserve soldiers could help those civilian officials provide a
 fused capability and a second layer of defense against terrorism.

 We rely on our police officers, we rely on our FBI in the first instance
 to protect us from domestic activities related to foreign terrorists,
 McHale said. But he added that if the concept of operations to be employed
 by terrorists exceeds the reasonable capability of law enforcement, those
 police officers are going to need back up with superior firepower. We find
 that (firepower) within the National Guard, he explained.

 McHale said the layered defense would include civilian police officers
 protecting us at the first level, the National Guard providing an immediate
 backup ability, and in a warfighting role if necessary under extraordinary
 circumstances, (active duty) soldiers and Marines prepared to deploy within
 our own country to physically protect the sites that might be subject to an
 al Qaeda attack.

 Another role for reserves would be in the nation's maritime defense, he
 explained. McHale noted that if terrorists were to bring a weapon of mass
 destruction into the United States, it would likely be through a U.S. port.
 And I believe it is likely that material would be brought into our country
 through the maritime domain that has been assigned to NORTHCOM.

 He said NORTHCOM's area of responsibility extends 500 nautical miles out

Re: [CTRL] Yisraelism Prepare For The Invasion Of America

2004-01-22 Thread Daniel Harrison
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hahaha...   they already control america i dont think theres any need to go
further for them and i didnt see any reasons stated why they would except
that its the zionist plan i dont think it is to take over america by force

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 In a message dated 1/22/2004 1:14:25 PM Central Standard Time,

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  Shannon,
 
  I think you and Vialls have lost it.

 Coming from you Rarey I consider that high praise.
 Keep your head in the Romulus sand...

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Re: [CTRL] Slavery and the Eight Veils

2004-01-18 Thread Daniel Harrison
?

 Piercing the eighth veil probably reveals God and the pure energy that
 is the life force in all
 living things-which are, I think, one and the same. [ A very few
 analytical prodigies will
 understand that Lucifer is behind the Great Conspiracy to destroy mens'
 souls. The UFOs are
 actually fallen angels and angels of light in seraphic transporters.
 They are still engaged in the
 GREAT WAR IN HEAVEN for the souls of man. The ultimate victory is a
 foregone conclusion.--btw]

 If my math is accurate there are only about 60,000 people on the planet
 who have pierced the sixth
 veil. The irony here is too incredible: Those who are stuck behind veils
 one through five have
 little choice but to view the people who have pierced the veils beyond
 them as insane. With each
 veil pierced, exponentially shrinking numbers of increasingly
 enlightened people are deemed insane
 by exponentially increasing masses of decreasingly enlightened people.

 Adding to the irony, the harder a sixth or better veiler tries to
 explain what he is able to see
 to those who can't, the more insane he appears to them.

 Our enemy, the state

 Behind the first two veils we find the great majority of people on the
 planet. They are tools of
 the state: Second veilers are the gullible voters whose ignorance
 justify the actions of
 politicians who send first veilers off to die in foreign lands as cannon
 fodder -- their combined
 stations in life are to believe that the self-serving machinations of
 the power-elite are matters
 of national security worth dying for.

 Third, fourth, fifth and sixth veilers are of increasing liability to
 the state because of their
 decreasing ability to be used as tools to consolidate power and wealth
 of the many into the hands
 of the power-elite. It is common for these people to sacrifice more of
 their relationships with
 friends and family, their professional careers and personal freedom with
 each veil they pierce.

 Albert Jay Nock (1870-1945), author of Our Enemy, the State (1935),
 explained what happens to
 those who find the seventh and eighth veils: What was the best that the
 state could find to do
 with an actual Socrates and an actual Jesus when it had them? Merely to
 poison one and crucify the
 other, for no reason but that they were too intolerably embarrassing to
 be allowed to live any
 longer.

 Conclusions

 And so now we know that it's not that our countrymen are so committed to
 their lives that, they
 don't want to see, the mechanisms of their enslavement and
 exploitation. They simply can't see
 it as surely as I cannot see what's on the other side of a closed curtain.

 The purpose of this essay is threefold: To help the handful of people in
 the latter veils to
 understand why the masses have little choice but to interpret their
 clarity as insanity; 2. To help
 people behind the first two veils understand that living, breathing and
 thinking are just the
 beginning and; 3. Show people that the greatest adventure of our life is
 behind the next veil
 because that is just one less veil between ourselves and God.

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Re: [CTRL] Slavery and the Eight Veils

2004-01-18 Thread Daniel Harrison
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Much thanks and respect

On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 15:07, you wrote:
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 At 09:18 PM 1/18/04, you wrote:
  The sixth veil:
  Ten percent of us will pierce the sixth veil where the dragons and
  lizards and aliens we thought
  were the fictional monsters of childhood literature are real and are the
  controlling forces behind
  the secret societies. Ninety percent of the people in this group will
  live and die without piercing
  the seventh veil.
 
 Who can help with a path for the 6th veil?

 Prepare to Pierce the 6th Veil:
 http://hope-of-israel.org/giants.htm
 http://www.enigmas.org/aef/lib/archeo/skulls.shtml
 http://www.s8int.com/giants1.html
 http://www.mt.net/%7Ewatcher/angelicconspiracy.html
 http://www.mt.net/~watcher/
 http://zbh.com/sermons/falangel.htm
 http://stevequayle.com/Giants/index2.html
 http://www.returnofthenephilim.com/GiantsInHistory.html
 http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/monster.htm
 http://www.khouse.org/articles/technical/19940701-55.html
 http://www.alienresistance.org/
 http://www.aliensinthebible.com/
 http://www.stargods.org/
 http://www.mysteriousworld.com/Journal/2003/Spring/Giants/
 http://www.returnofthenephilim.com/ReturnOfTheNephilim.html
 http://www.aristotle.net/~bhuie/demons.htm
 http://www.icidal.com/xproject/archives/strange/skeleton_mound.html
 http://www.starchildproject.com/
 http://www.ufoindia.org/article_ps_ancientufos.htm
 http://www.marsearthconnection.com/ancientart.html

 
 -iNFoWaRZ
 And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and
 upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves
 roaring; Men's hearts failing them for fear,
 and for looking after those things
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 For The Powers Of Heaven Shall Be Shaken.
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Re: [CTRL] Slavery and the Eight Veils

2004-01-18 Thread Daniel Harrison
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i start to see, from what ive read it does make sense like a missing piece of
a jigsaw...

not to say anything yet, but looks credible

On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 15:15, you wrote:
 -Caveat Lector-

 Much thanks and respect

 On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 15:07, you wrote:
  -Caveat Lector-
 
  At 09:18 PM 1/18/04, you wrote:
   The sixth veil:
   Ten percent of us will pierce the sixth veil where the dragons and
   lizards and aliens we thought
   were the fictional monsters of childhood literature are real and are
   the controlling forces behind
   the secret societies. Ninety percent of the people in this group will
   live and die without piercing
   the seventh veil.
  
  Who can help with a path for the 6th veil?
 
  Prepare to Pierce the 6th Veil:
  http://hope-of-israel.org/giants.htm
  http://www.enigmas.org/aef/lib/archeo/skulls.shtml
  http://www.s8int.com/giants1.html
  http://www.mt.net/%7Ewatcher/angelicconspiracy.html
  http://www.mt.net/~watcher/
  http://zbh.com/sermons/falangel.htm
  http://stevequayle.com/Giants/index2.html
  http://www.returnofthenephilim.com/GiantsInHistory.html
  http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/monster.htm
  http://www.khouse.org/articles/technical/19940701-55.html
  http://www.alienresistance.org/
  http://www.aliensinthebible.com/
  http://www.stargods.org/
  http://www.mysteriousworld.com/Journal/2003/Spring/Giants/
  http://www.returnofthenephilim.com/ReturnOfTheNephilim.html
  http://www.aristotle.net/~bhuie/demons.htm
  http://www.icidal.com/xproject/archives/strange/skeleton_mound.html
  http://www.starchildproject.com/
  http://www.ufoindia.org/article_ps_ancientufos.htm
  http://www.marsearthconnection.com/ancientart.html
 
  
  -iNFoWaRZ
  And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars;
  and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the
  waves roaring; Men's hearts failing them for fear,
  and for looking after those things
  WHICH ARE COMING ON THE EARTH:
  For The Powers Of Heaven Shall Be Shaken.
  And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud
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  -Luke 21:25-27
 
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Re: [CTRL] Slavery and the Eight Veils

2004-01-18 Thread Daniel Harrison
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do we know of any links or sites for evidence of the 5th veil?

On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 15:55, you wrote:
 -Caveat Lector-

 i start to see, from what ive read it does make sense like a missing piece
 of a jigsaw...

 not to say anything yet, but looks credible

 On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 15:15, you wrote:
  -Caveat Lector-
 
  Much thanks and respect
 
  On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 15:07, you wrote:
   -Caveat Lector-
  
   At 09:18 PM 1/18/04, you wrote:
The sixth veil:
Ten percent of us will pierce the sixth veil where the dragons and
lizards and aliens we thought
were the fictional monsters of childhood literature are real and are
the controlling forces behind
the secret societies. Ninety percent of the people in this group will
live and die without piercing
the seventh veil.
   
   Who can help with a path for the 6th veil?
  
   Prepare to Pierce the 6th Veil:
   http://hope-of-israel.org/giants.htm
   http://www.enigmas.org/aef/lib/archeo/skulls.shtml
   http://www.s8int.com/giants1.html
   http://www.mt.net/%7Ewatcher/angelicconspiracy.html
   http://www.mt.net/~watcher/
   http://zbh.com/sermons/falangel.htm
   http://stevequayle.com/Giants/index2.html
   http://www.returnofthenephilim.com/GiantsInHistory.html
   http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/monster.htm
   http://www.khouse.org/articles/technical/19940701-55.html
   http://www.alienresistance.org/
   http://www.aliensinthebible.com/
   http://www.stargods.org/
   http://www.mysteriousworld.com/Journal/2003/Spring/Giants/
   http://www.returnofthenephilim.com/ReturnOfTheNephilim.html
   http://www.aristotle.net/~bhuie/demons.htm
   http://www.icidal.com/xproject/archives/strange/skeleton_mound.html
   http://www.starchildproject.com/
   http://www.ufoindia.org/article_ps_ancientufos.htm
   http://www.marsearthconnection.com/ancientart.html
  
   
   -iNFoWaRZ
   And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars;
   and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and
   the waves roaring; Men's hearts failing them for fear,
   and for looking after those things
   WHICH ARE COMING ON THE EARTH:
   For The Powers Of Heaven Shall Be Shaken.
   And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud
   with power and great glory.
   -Luke 21:25-27
  
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[CTRL] Good Looking

2004-01-14 Thread Daniel Harrison
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Hi,

 Today is International Day of The Very Good Looking, Beautiful and Damn
Attractive People, so send this message to someone you think  fits this
description. Please do not send it back to me as I have already received
over  fifty thousand messages and my in-box is jammed full.

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Re: [CTRL] AUSTRALIAN GOVERNMENT AGENTS BOMB SYDNEY

2004-01-13 Thread Daniel Harrison
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Re: [CTRL] Zionists DO NOT Represent Jews

2004-01-08 Thread Daniel Harrison
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[CTRL] back from the middle east- but didnt get to fire an rpg (??or did i??)

2004-01-08 Thread Daniel Harrison
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hi peoples,

hehe...  spent my last week or so in and around iraq visiting in-laws family
and such things...

and i can tell you first hand that the absolutely petrified look on the faces
of the US solders (like he was going to defecate himself)constantly scanning
every person as they move in huge convoys (min 20-100 ppl) around iraq says
more words than all the US propoganda put togeather.


some things are worth risking ones life to see... hehe  like the US soilders
in iraq... hehe.  i wish i took a picture

wish i had a chance to shoot of an rpg at one of the humvees while i was
there, but alas the oppertunity did not come my way.

truthfully it is a bit of a sport now in iraq firing these rpg i say this from
the casual manner about which common iraqi civillians talk about it  i did
this yesterday, my friend killed two the other day and so on (there was even
a couple of stories i was told about women firing these thing and hitting
humvees which honestly i didnt believe but the fact this is bringing a smile
to their face enough to make up stories aswell about attacks purely means
these people are commited)

which in itself should be scary to the american occupiers..
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Re: [CTRL] Re: [911-Discussion] Letters the Troops Have Sent Me By Michael Moore

2004-01-04 Thread Daniel Harrison
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awww...  fuck r u serious?  shit i didnt know high times was a front!!   time
to throw all my mags away  :)   now where do i get my growing tips!!!

:-)
Live long and prosper

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 In a message dated 12/21/03 2:24:52 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   3. ... You can also sponsor care packages to American troops
   through the USO: http://www.usocares.org/.
 
  Click on the link and you'll find the sponspors page:
  http://www.usocares.org/corporateSponsors.htm
 
  
 
  Corporate Sponsors
 
  A program created by the USO, supported by the American public.
 
  We would like to thank the following companies for providing items to
  be included in the care packages as well as the corporations who have
  participated in our Corporate Cares for the Troops Campaign. The
  items they have given and the money they have raised are greatly
  appreciated.
 
  The following organizations are participants in our Corporate Cares
  for the Troops Campaign...
 
  (...)
 
  Booz Allen Hamilton
 
  --
 
  So Kris, are you supporting Moore because he's unwittingly (or
  secretly) supporting the Bush cabal through his endorsement of the
  USO's services?  Hmmm...

 Yo, anonymous doofus, Because I forward an email dosn't mean that I
 ascribed to all of the verbiage contained therein. And why do you try and
 make some sort of Hmmm about it? Paranoid? Personal problems? Limited
 intelligence? Or doing your job?

  You already blew your cover when identifying yourself as editor of
  High Times -- a publication that's known as a DEA FRONT... (Hello?!)

 Dealing in misinformation, hunh? Please post a post where I have
 indentified myself as an editor for High Times. Or, please post any
 information from anywhere on the web or print where I am an editor of High
 Times. I authored two articles printed in High Times. I am not nor have I
 ever been an editor at High Times. You post lies. Why?

 Your statement about High Times being known as a DEA FRONT is also
 incorrect and a lie. Please post any proof you have that your statement
 is true? High Times regularly broke stories and was ignored by the
 mainstream, you have no IDEA of what you speak. Just sowing whispers and
 divisiveness or -- just working on your cointelpro merit badge?

  Now with your latest endorsement of Booz Allen Hamilton, I have to
  seriously wonder 'bout you...

 No one needs to wonder about you. The footprint is clear.

 And why should I care about what some anonymous email gadfly persona
 speaking from the shadows?

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Re: [CTRL] Christian RICO Violators

2003-12-18 Thread Daniel Harrison
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On Fri, 19 Dec 2003 08:03, you wrote:
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 Subject: [LIFE-GAZETTE] RE: Police Psychics ... fraud or fact?

 On Thu, 18 Dec 2003, James Randi wrote:
  First, police departments don't use psychics; the psychics go to them and
  say they know something.
 
  I've done such tests many times.  The psychics have always failed.

I've done such tests many times.  The psychics have always failed. am i
suppose to belive this or do you have some evidence and results from the test
youve done, what did you test, where... etc.

you can't just say i did tests and they always failed, how do we know you
ain't just full of shit?

sorta sounded like it!



 Thanks for the feedback. I suppose these police psychics are as phoney
 as the Christian Faith Healing Cults, and that incorporates every
 denomination of Christianity I know of. They are always begging for a
 dime. The Salvation Army even has its hucksters out now with wireless
 debit machines in hand to ply the trade of the golden fleece, according to
 last night's news reports. While they are being modern, one might
 expect some of these fraudsters to set up an easily-conducted experiment
 and claim your million $ for the faith-healing which they claim to
 practice. Freedom of religion etc. is not freedom to lie and defraud the
 public. Keep up the good work!

 ZG

  James Randi
 
 
 
  How about taking the initiative and asking the many police departments
  which use psychics, to compete for your $1,000,000 JR? Surely they can
  find a good use for it.
 
  The basic idea of the study would be that they take pieces of evidence
  (like pictures, objects from crime scenes etc.) for SOLVED cases and ask
  the psychics to match the samples to the criminal.
 
  The police psychic whose matches are the best and also beats chance as
  determined by your statisticians, wins. If none of them beat chance, the
  police still come out ahead. They will know better than to waste time and
  money on police psychics in the future.
 
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Re: [CTRL] Christian RICO Violators, cont'd

2003-12-18 Thread Daniel Harrison
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Zandu,

being a zionist isnt something anyone with a shread of morality would be proud
of




On Fri, 19 Dec 2003 08:55, you wrote:
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 Done. I wouldn't want to dampen the Christian Coalition's Christmas
 season enjoyment with the TRUTH or anything else which has to do with
 Someone who asserted that He was TRUTH PERSONIFIED, as in

 I am the way, the truth and the life.

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Re: [CTRL] Christian RICO Violators, cont'd

2003-12-18 Thread Daniel Harrison
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I see the quest to become humble in all things before god is not one of your
goals...   guess you are a zionist...  nuff said then!

On Fri, 19 Dec 2003 12:19, you wrote:
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 On Fri, 19 Dec 2003, Daniel Harrison wrote:
  Zandu,
 
  being a zionist isnt something anyone with a shread of morality would be
  proud of

 Some of us are proud learned elders of zion, the global bastions of
 morality, the chosenites of the Almighty!

 Zandu the Magnificent

  On Fri, 19 Dec 2003 08:55, you wrote:
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   Done. I wouldn't want to dampen the Christian Coalition's Christmas
   season enjoyment with the TRUTH or anything else which has to do with
   Someone who asserted that He was TRUTH PERSONIFIED, as in
  
   I am the way, the truth and the life.
  
   Zandu Goldbar
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Re: [CTRL] Christian RICO Violators, cont'd

2003-12-18 Thread Daniel Harrison
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Seems you have a magnificently low IQ and thats really about it!

A man who knows he can achieve needs not tell anyone as he has the ability. A
man who strives to achieve but can not will proclaim he can constantly, for
gaining the ability to achieve is constantly on his mind

By proclaiming yourself as something of importance you will never be, for in
the act of proclomation there is no room for importance  - D.H

contemplate this one if you can!

On Fri, 19 Dec 2003 12:33, you wrote:
 The Learned Elders of Zion are magnificent at being magnificent,
 meat-head. Go f**k another crocodile and maybe we'll let you join the
 club.

 Zandu Goldbar
 $

 On Fri, 19 Dec 2003, Daniel Harrison wrote:
  yes well it is just as i said its seems you are quite adapt at self
  proclimation aswell
 
  may i just ask one question, what is it that you are so magnificent at??
 
  On Fri, 19 Dec 2003 12:19, you wrote:
   On Fri, 19 Dec 2003, Daniel Harrison wrote:
Zandu,
   
being a zionist isnt something anyone with a shread of morality would
be proud of
  
   Some of us are proud learned elders of zion, the global bastions of
   morality, the chosenites of the Almighty!
  
   Zandu the Magnificent
  
On Fri, 19 Dec 2003 08:55, you wrote:
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 Done. I wouldn't want to dampen the Christian Coalition's Christmas
 season enjoyment with the TRUTH or anything else which has to do
 with Someone who asserted that He was TRUTH PERSONIFIED, as in

 I am the way, the truth and the life.

 Zandu Goldbar
 Zionist

  * http://www.geocities.com/CITIZENS_ASSEMBLY
 ** $$$   Capital punishment is not just penalty for
 poverty$$$

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Re: [CTRL] Christian RICO Violators, cont'd

2003-12-18 Thread Daniel Harrison
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once again you have replied to a statement in a different context that the
original statement  wow your really proving yourself magnificence today
arnt you...

anyway i will comment on your reply.. so you say the lesser of two evils is
the good  am i correct in your assumption?

On Fri, 19 Dec 2003 12:46, you wrote:
 Zionistas are HUMBLE in their pride! There are many who have even more
 PRIDE

 ZG

 On Fri, 19 Dec 2003, Daniel Harrison wrote:
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  I see the quest to become humble in all things before god is not one of
  your goals...   guess you are a zionist...  nuff said then!
 
  On Fri, 19 Dec 2003 12:19, you wrote:
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   On Fri, 19 Dec 2003, Daniel Harrison wrote:
Zandu,
   
being a zionist isnt something anyone with a shread of morality would
be proud of
  
   Some of us are proud learned elders of zion, the global bastions of
   morality, the chosenites of the Almighty!
  
   Zandu the Magnificent
  
On Fri, 19 Dec 2003 08:55, you wrote:
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 Done. I wouldn't want to dampen the Christian Coalition's Christmas
 season enjoyment with the TRUTH or anything else which has to do
 with Someone who asserted that He was TRUTH PERSONIFIED, as in

 I am the way, the truth and the life.

 Zandu Goldbar
 Zionist

  * http://www.geocities.com/CITIZENS_ASSEMBLY
 ** $$$   Capital punishment is not just penalty for
 poverty$$$

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[CTRL] TV controlling the poppys

2003-12-16 Thread Daniel Harrison
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Hey guys,

what do we know about development of tv and its uses for controlling the
masses by removing their moral and religious concense by hundreds of hours of
tv programming???


you never hear much bout this although i believe this is the elites no.1 tool
for controlling the world...   h  any thoughts?
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[CTRL] A sad day

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It is a sad day indeed it seems Saddam was captured
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Re: [CTRL] The Forgotten Books of Eden [a must view]

2003-12-08 Thread Daniel Harrison
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Can you repost the link please

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 this link doesn't work

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Re: [CTRL] Gingrich: U.S. Went Off a Cliff in Iraq (DU)

2003-12-08 Thread Daniel Harrison
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We are fighting (and doing a darned poor job of it) someone else's war

hahaha  its funny because its true hahaha


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 I see a Republican Party in disarray, as most of the predictions that were
 made by the chickenhawks before the war have been shattered by reality.
 They broke Iraq, and now they can't fix it.  They have to cover their asses
 now, and they are struggling to find a graceful exit.  The problem is,
 there is no graceful exit in sight -- only failure and humiliation.
 It's time the U.S. should realize that they've been drawn into a trap.  We
 are fighting (and doing a darned poor job of it) someone else's war.  The
 U.S. needs to understand that the enemy of our enemy is not necessarily our
 friend, but would be very glad to use our resources to achieve its own
 ends.  After last night's sixty minutes, it appears that we are putting
 Saddam's bully boys back in charge.  So much for freeing the Iraqi from
 their oppressors.  It's just that now we get to oppress them too.  Perhaps
 the search for Saddam is because we want to return him to his former
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Re: [CTRL] Israel's unholy wall (Tom Wallace)

2003-12-04 Thread Daniel Harrison
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the contempt that the us government shows to the rest of the world is
absolutely disgusting and has no regard for anyone or anything.

The us is being run like it was a kids club house, only difference is that
these guys arnt kids!


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 The United States has since decided to deduct $289 million from the $9
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 Oh wow.  I'm sure a penalty like this will really influence Israel.  She'll
 change her ways immediately.  She'll stop killing Palestinians and their
 sympathizers, let investors start businesses in Palestinian areas, stop
 knocking down houses.   I like to see forceful, direct punishment for bad
 world citizens. $289 million, oh that's just  so brutal.  What a joke!
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Re: [CTRL] Putting together the pieces that bring destruction

2003-11-30 Thread Daniel Harrison
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hahaha...  the only thing americans struggle for is to get their fat lazy ass
outa bed and down to the closest burger king for a double whopper with extra
bacon and a DIET coke.hahahahahahahaha

honestly shannon theres no helping you!  you ideology is so outa wack your
mentality must look in comparison to a regular persons, like whacko jacko's
face compared to a normal looking human..

keep em coming...  shannon


hahaha

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 Oh sure Zuukie.
 How do you find the time to post when there are new age boogiemen out to
 getcha? Yeah, that new age is so scary. Between their crystals and their
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Re: [CTRL] Putting together the pieces that bring destruction

2003-11-30 Thread Daniel Harrison
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By the way shannon would you classify yourself a freedom loving american
patriot???   honesty...?


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  Keep posting these kind of replies Shannon.  We all know who is getting
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 Oh sure Zuukie.
 How do you find the time to post when there are new age boogiemen out to
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Re: [CTRL] Putting together the pieces that bring destruction

2003-11-30 Thread Daniel Harrison
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Good, then how about being a REAL PATRIOTIC american and show us some of that
famous american freedom of speech towords us or is that only reserved for
yourself shannon?

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  By the way shannon would you classify yourself a freedom loving american
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 I sure would.
 Would you classify yourself as a delusional, cowardly twat? That's exactly
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Re: [CTRL] Putting together the pieces that bring destruction

2003-11-30 Thread Daniel Harrison
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a man thinks before speaking, u are obviously not one of these!

if you were to look over the whole document you would see my name is listed in
full

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since you dont obviously look at all and just reply without any conceious
thought i understand why your posts seem to just be angry ramblings..  i
guess thats really all they are..

im only 24yo  how old are you?

thankyou

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  By the way shannon would you classify yourself a freedom loving american
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Re: [CTRL] Putting together the pieces that bring destruction

2003-11-30 Thread Daniel Harrison
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My full name follows the regards, at the end of all my posts shannon.  thanks
look again!

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  Good, then how about being a REAL PATRIOTIC american and show us some of
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 Sign your name to it like a man and I would be more sympathetic. Right now
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Re: [CTRL] Putting together the pieces that bring destruction

2003-11-30 Thread Daniel Harrison
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Alright everyone, we are getting a bit off subject here.

It is a fact that we are not all living in one street in one nationallity of
one religion so there is diversity BUT we are on this list for a COMMON
intrest hence lets try to further that intrest without creating a divide
between members as this does not help us obtain knowledge and information.

-Daniel Harrison




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  It's an old communist
  technique, used in many different settings, to avoid the issue by
  putting the spotlight on the individual making the revealing comment.

 No Dorothy, it's actually just that it's kind of hard to take anyone too
 seriously who is too chickenshit (like you) to actually put their name to
 what they post. Nothing more than that. Maybe you'll figure out someday
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Re: [CTRL] Christ as a myth

2003-11-27 Thread Daniel Harrison
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  for some reason Jesus Christ hits a real bad sore spot with you - and
  fifth - just what is it that you DO believe? M Maurer   a soldier for
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 No sore spot. Believe what you want...just don't push it on others or claim
 to have the sole truth. I could care less what fairy tales you believe
 in. I am into reality, not fable.

 Bill.


Bill,

See thats a bit more civil now, very nice to see.

Although the fairy tale bait was a bit much... but better none the less.



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Re: [CTRL] Christ as a myth

2003-11-26 Thread Daniel Harrison
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On Thu, 27 Nov 2003 06:08, you wrote:
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 In a message dated 11/26/2003 12:57:27 PM Central Standard Time,

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  To He has written - You need to tell us all just what spitrituality and
  enlightenment really is. I`m sure every subscriber to this site would
  like to know. Also, don`t dictate to me or anyone else who subscribes to
  this site concerning what we post  understood?? M Maurer   a
  soldier for Jesus Christ

 A little fanatical aren't you?
 Let me guess, you either came to Jesus following problems with
 alcohol/drugs, the breakup of a relationship, or following incarceration.
 Those are my guesses.


Well duh! you know in this thing called life these situatiuons do arise (i kid
you not it is true some relationships do break up!!!  does that amaze you)
and there is possibility that people can goto Jusus after that not all but
some...   So What!!!alot goto Juseus without these situations arising.

Why dont you comment on a persons comments, and not on what position they find
themselves in or were in thats just low... honestly and by doin that you only
prove to everyone else how un-enlightend and petty you really are...

and prove the opposite of what you say about christians...

do you see me calling you a poor, drug addicted junke...   no i dont because
what right do i have to comment on your position in life unless im somewhat
better than you which i know im not as we were all born equal

you should think on the same wavelength unless you believe you were born a god
or better than all of us then sure  comment all you like

OK




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Re: [CTRL] Christ as a myth

2003-11-26 Thread Daniel Harrison
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On Thu, 27 Nov 2003 11:23, you wrote:
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 In a message dated 11/26/2003 6:12:38 PM Central Standard Time,

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  Why dont you comment on a persons comments, and not on what position they
  find
  themselves in or were in thats just low... honestly and by doin that you
  only
  prove to everyone else how un-enlightend and petty you really are...

 I believe I was commenting on his comments.
 If I want to be preached to I'd go to church. These religious nutcases
 ought to be confronted when they insist on inserting religion into every
 goddamned email. If some fruitloop was on here paying constant homage to
 the tooth fairy or to Zeus I'd call him on it and when the mythological
 hallucination happens to be Jesus I call him on it too.
 A little lithium would go a long way to curing such delusions.

 Bill.

Firstly you believe wrong as you were not commenting on his comments... as you
must know

Secondly you must be the holder of all universal knowledge to be saying you
know for a fact that Jesus was a myth

i feel pity for you and your arrogance.

have a nice day


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Re: [CTRL] Christ as a myth

2003-11-26 Thread Daniel Harrison
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On Thu, 27 Nov 2003 16:24, you wrote:
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 People, people, people.  Leave Shannon to his own world of myths about
 Jews and Israel.  Heavens knows  what he calls it, but his religion is
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Very well said.


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 i feel pity for you and your arrogance.



 And I for you and your ignorance...
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Re: [CTRL] Gay Marriage - False Issue

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Re: [CTRL] regarding the Muslims and the Christ myth

2003-11-23 Thread Daniel Harrison
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It is only because the actions of Jesus are you able to say he is a myth.. and
still he accepts you unconditionally and lovingly



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Re: [CTRL] Bush Blasphemes God Again.

2003-11-23 Thread Daniel Harrison
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 LONDON (BP)--In an answer likely to upset evangelicals and other members
  of his Christian base, President Bush said Nov. 20 that Christiaans and
  Muslims worship the same God.
 
 But for once Bush is telling the truth.  Allah is the Arabic word for God.
   I think the Arabic word for Jesus is spoken just a bit differently also.
   It's like how when you're in Italy, you eat pani, and when you're in the
  United States, you have the same thing to eat, but it's called bread.
  Who are these weirdos who think people in Arabia should worship in
  English?  How stupid do you have to be to be a practicing evangelical?
  Prudy

 No you are very wrong.  Allah is the specific personal name of a historical
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just because muslims believe in god it does not mean that it is the exact same
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Re: [CTRL] regarding Christ as a myth

2003-11-23 Thread Daniel Harrison
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Thankyou it is nice to meet someone enlightend as you

 Daniel Harrison - I NEVER said Christ was a myth I said He is NO
 MORE a myth than the sun in the sky. I am a born-again believer in Jesus
 Christ and take the Word of God VERY seriously!!! What He says - HE MEANS!!
 His love IS unconditional - anyone who would endure being nailed to the
 cross for us and our salvation says it all. Do I believe He did all of
 those miraculous things during His ministry on earth - OF COURSE  I DO!!
 and He still DOES!! I have been baptised by the Holy Spirit and have
 learned how true and real Jesus Christ really is!  I am a soldier for
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Re: [CTRL] regarding the Muslims and the Christ myth

2003-11-23 Thread Daniel Harrison
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  still he accepts you unconditionally and lovingly

 That's beautiful, thanks.
 Hey, I suppose that you still keep an eye out for Santa Claus and the
 Toothfairy too huh?


No need to be silly, be grateful someone you never knew or met was selfless
enough to die for YOU.

i challenge you to anwser this question.

Would you die and be tortured for someone who doesnt know you?



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Re: [CTRL] Israel Angers the Bush Administration (Jane's)

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 Ariel Sharon is surely feeling lonely these days. Tension is building
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 hostility toward the USA, and particularly its troubled occupation of Iraq,
 is being fuelled by Israel's treatment of the Palestinians.
 Oh heavens, how could anyone think that?  Prudy


Are you saying that the perfect state of Isreael isnt treating Palastinians
well.

Be careful Prudy youd be labeld an Anti-Semite for saying Israel isnt perfect!

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Re: [CTRL] Prudy Icy Gust Religious Gynophobia

2003-11-13 Thread Daniel Harrison
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An iron grip to prevent western progress into thier countries, truly this
sounds like really the only real protection from some bankers we all know


On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 01:25, you wrote:
 -Caveat Lector-

 Probably would be, but I think if we all behaved like that, we'd
 self-annihilate on a universal scale.

 I still think it is predominantly the Palestinians, Muslim and Arab world
 in general, under the iron grip of its mullahs, rulers and various clerics
 that has prevented progress in the Middle-East and around the world.

 The failure of the latter to enter the modern and more liberalised world
 has spelt disaster for their nations and peoples. The people are not so
 much down-trodden by Israel as they are kept in chains of darkness by their
 own rulers.

 When their leadership condone the sale and promotion of timeworn and known
 anti-Semitic hoaxes like the Protocols of Zion, which Hitler himself
 employed to promote racial hate; it's one of many signs they are not
 interested in truth or liberation; but rather that they share a
 genocidal-soul with the Nazis, whom the  Grand Mufti sided with circa WWII.

 Today's Arab anti-Semitism resembles that of medieval Catholic Europe and
 the Nazis, rather than the historic Arab depiction of defeated Jews as
 tragic figures whilst accorded dignity. Perhaps this in itself, may be a
 marker that indicates forces from without may actually be promoting much of
 the Mid-East tensions.


 Dave.

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 a scapegoat to expunge that evil guilt within their own societal-hive. Well
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Re: [CTRL] It is the soldier, ........ ( Happy Veteran's Day)

2003-11-12 Thread Daniel Harrison
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If only the soilder knew he was fighting not for his or his familys freedom or
even freedom of speech but the freedom of global companies to expand into
markets not yet tapped by removing troublesum governments from power by
force. He might feel pretty disillusioned

On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 15:19, you wrote:
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 With thanks to Nancy in Oxnard

 It is the soldier, not the reporter, who has given us freedom of the
 press. It is the soldier, not the poet, who has given us freedom of
 speech. It is the soldier, not the campus organizer, who has given us
 the freedom to demonstrate. It is the soldier, not the lawyer, who
 has given us the right to a fair trial. It is the soldier, who
 salutes the flag, who serves under the flag, and whose coffin is
 draped by the flag, who allows the protester to burn the flag.

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Re: [CTRL] ALLEGED MOSSAD OFFICE BOMBED IN IRAQ

2003-11-12 Thread Daniel Harrison
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Excellent...

On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 13:50, you wrote:
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 A
 HREF=http://themedialine.org/news/news_detail.asp?NewsID=3591;http://them
edialine.org/news/news_detail.asp?NewsID=3591/A



 ALLEGED MOSSAD OFFICE BOMBED IN IRAQ

 An office bombed in the Iraqi town Kirkouk has been reported as belonging
 to Israels Mossad intelligence agency (the equivalent of the CIA). The
 number of dead and wounded in Monday nights bombing is still not final,
 according to the Egyptian-based Middle East News Agency, but they included
 Mossad people and a number of local Kurds, who were reported as
 collaborating with the Israeli agents.

 The injured were rushed to a nearby American military base in Kirkouk and
 some were transferred to a hospital in Mousul. Local Kurds and American
 soldiers rushed to the building immediately after the explosion and
 attempted to hide anything that may reveal the true nature of the
 so-called Mossad office, MENA reported.

 The identity of the aggressors remains unknown, according to the report.

 Israel refuses to comment on its covert operations overseas.

 By The Media Line Staff on Wednesday, November 12, 2003






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Re: [CTRL] David Sutherland

2003-11-09 Thread Daniel Harrison
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I refuse to argue with a fool, for some might not be able to tell the
difference.

Thankyou for you opinion it was much appreciated.

You seem to be quite intelligent seen by some reasoning behind your
statements, don't do yourself a disfavour.

On Mon, 10 Nov 2003 11:50, you wrote:
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 I'm not sure what you are responding to, as there is no pre-content in your
 post.

 In any case, your diggy-post just re-states a given; people will draw their
 own conclusion regardless whether or not I, or anybody else, claims
 something is BS. Oddly, you re-enacted the strange schizo-mind exhibited by
 some on this forum of doing the very same thing as you accuse others of, ie
 being irrelevant.

 This is just a small forum, quite irrelevant to the Big Picture or scheme
 of things. That's not to say anything bad of it, but you have see things in
 perspective and realise there are just squillions of forums on the Net much
 like this one.

 It's only sociopaths like the anti-social Shyte McDudd, who believe they
 are on some type of mission from god, a holy Crusade to hunt down
 evil-doers, and who have fallen victim to their own hate-rhetoric and
 imbibed regurgitated, paranoid Judeophobic conspiracy theories; that take
 themselves overly seriously and as you can see, in the process go quite
 insane.

 constructive, in the end can be a rather subjective orientation. It's all
 a matter of perspective, where you're coming from and what presuppositions
 one brings to the table, and where you think you are headed.

 For instance, on the surface; toddlers seem very de- or un- constructive,
 but once we begin to appreciate that the apparent destructiveness of the
 toddler in taking apart a flower or knocking down sand castles is in fact a
 constructive effort to understand unity, we are able to revise our view of
 the situation, moving from reprimand and prohibition to the intelligent
 channelling of his efforts and the fostering of discovery.


 Dave.



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 Im sure you have many reasons for saying what you have said although you
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Re: [CTRL] Icy gust cools Israel's relations with EU - from an ICY QUEEN ...

2003-11-09 Thread Daniel Harrison
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Thankyou for your opinion, although please dont forget the idea of looking at
thing from different perspectives.

Besides you obviously dont care it seems you have somewhere to sleep at night
already.

After long enough in the box it seems you forgot theres a world outside or are
you just being ignorant?

If so why bother? no-one honestly cares for that.

On Mon, 10 Nov 2003 11:50, you wrote:
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 What do I think?

 Well I think that's pretty freckin sick.

 That's like saying if I had a gripe over a piece of turf with my neighbour,
 I strap some TNT onto my kids back and blow my neighbours kids up so I can
 get some attention from the Local Council over my alleged 'plight'.

 The reality of it is that I would be seen as a complete wacko and locked
 up.

 Murder is just plain fucking murder and no reason justifies it.

 To suggest you blow your kids and your neighbours kids up, for the sake of
 attention and media publicity, is the thinking of psychopaths, not
 liberators.


 Dave.



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 Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 3:08 PM
 Subject: Re: [CTRL] Icy gust cools Israel's relations with EU - from an ICY
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 coul it be that they do this because sacraficing their life not to kill
 jews for the sake of it but to save their children and childrens children
 by giving their life to make someone notice their cause in an otherwise
 media locked down conflict.

 The jews have brought this on them selves by holding media attention back
 from
 them and thus this is the only way then can achieve it (by blowing
 themselves
 up).

 .really i do not believe someone wakes up in the morning and says well
 i fell like blowing up myself today, more to the effect of if i do this
 maybe someone somewhere will notice and might do something to help which in
 turn could possibly end the conflict and save their childrens lives.

 what are your thoughts on this?

 On Fri, 7 Nov 2003 14:32, you wrote:
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  In a message dated 11/6/2003 9:12:39 PM Eastern Standard Time,
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  One cannot even begin to imagine what life would be like in such a

 society.

  How can the likes of some Palestinians, who have no respect for their own
  lives, and vicariously through no respect of their children's lives;
  possibly respect their neighbours lives much less the social welfare of
  their neighbour. And if they are not maddeningly bombing the Israeli's;
  they are busy killing one another.
  First one must imagine what life is like for Palestinians--no education,

 no

  security, no jobs, no land, constant harrassment and humiliation--nothing
  to look forward to except death--so strapping on a bomb and going out
  with a bang must not seem like such a bad thing to a man who has no
  prospects

 in

  his future.  Prudy
 
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[CTRL] David Sutherland

2003-11-06 Thread Daniel Harrison
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Im sure you have many reasons for saying what you have said although you must
know that all people of intelligence will use their own determination to come
to a conclusion of wether others posts are bBS or not.

Thankyou you for you comments although they do no one any good when they are
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Re: [CTRL] Icy gust cools Israel's relations with EU - from an ICY QUEEN ...

2003-11-06 Thread Daniel Harrison
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coul it be that they do this because sacraficing their life not to kill jews
for the sake of it but to save their children and childrens children by
giving their life to make someone notice their cause in an otherwise media
locked down conflict.

The jews have brought this on them selves by holding media attention back from
them and thus this is the only way then can achieve it (by blowing themselves
up).

.really i do not believe someone wakes up in the morning and says well i
fell like blowing up myself today, more to the effect of if i do this maybe
someone somewhere will notice and might do something to help which in turn
could possibly end the conflict and save their childrens lives.

what are your thoughts on this?

On Fri, 7 Nov 2003 14:32, you wrote:
 -Caveat Lector-

 In a message dated 11/6/2003 9:12:39 PM Eastern Standard Time,
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 One cannot even begin to imagine what life would be like in such a society.
 How can the likes of some Palestinians, who have no respect for their own
 lives, and vicariously through no respect of their children's lives;
 possibly respect their neighbours lives much less the social welfare of
 their neighbour. And if they are not maddeningly bombing the Israeli's;
 they are busy killing one another.
 First one must imagine what life is like for Palestinians--no education, no
 security, no jobs, no land, constant harrassment and humiliation--nothing
 to look forward to except death--so strapping on a bomb and going out with
 a bang must not seem like such a bad thing to a man who has no prospects in
 his future.  Prudy

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Re: [CTRL] One Man's Response to Rising Anti-Semitism in Europe

2003-11-06 Thread Daniel Harrison
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I do admit i am probably racist when it comes to jews personally i dont think
hitler was wrong in killing jews only wrong in not killing all of them. in a
way it is good too see alot of people think this way aswell and are starting
to become less worried about showing it.

Although it would be a grave mistake to allow our Anti-Semitism to cloud our
judgements and decisions which must always be made without any pre-judgement
else our final decisions will be doomed to fail.

On Fri, 7 Nov 2003 13:37, you wrote:
 -Caveat Lector-

 You can always tell French wine from vinegar by the label on the bottle.

 Moi, a racist?

 No way ...

 I hate all the French equality!

 Dave.



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 My friend it seems as though you are anti-france which is just as bad as
 the people you are describing.

 Would your proposed boycott of all things french not just affect the
 minority
 you speak of but also the decent people of france.

 If so by the same ruling we should boycott your own country for your views
 and
 actions of a minority within your own borders.

 You will learn in time you cant beat recism by becomeing a racist yourself!

 On Wed, 5 Nov 2003 19:17, you wrote:
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  MessageOne Man's Response to Rising Anti-Semitism in Europe
 
  Posted by Jean Shaw
  Friday, October 31, 2003
 
 
   Many recent articles have tried to tackle the difficult subject of
  rising anti-Semitism throughout the world.  But the following account of
  anti-Semitic attacks and incidents in Europe--and particularly

 France--says

  it all.  It was written by Edward Weiner of Huntington Beach, California,
  and was forwarded to me via e-mail by a friend.
 
 Rocks have been lifted all over Europe, and the snakes of

 Jew-hatred

  are slithering free.
 
 In Belgium, thugs beat up the chief rabbi, kicking him in the face
  and calling him ''a dirty Jew.''
 
 Two synagogues in Brussels were firebombed; a third, in Charleroi,
  was sprayed with automatic weapon fire.
 
 In Britain, the cover of the New Statesman, a left-wing magazine,
  depicted a large Star of David stabbing the Union Jack.
 
 Oxford professor Tom Paulin, a noted poet, told an Egyptian
  interviewer that American Jews who move to the West Bank and Gaza
  ''should be shot dead.''
 
 A Jewish yeshiva student reading the Psalms was stabbed 27 times
  on a London bus.
 
 ''Anti-Semitism,'' wrote a columnist in The Spectator, ''has
  become respectable . . . at London dinner tables.''  She quoted one
  member of the House of Lords: ''The Jews have been asking for it and now,
  thank God, we can say what we think at last.''
 
 In Italy, the daily paper La Stampa published a Page 1 cartoon: A
  tank emblazoned with a Jewish star points its gun at the baby Jesus, who
  pleads, ''Surely they don't want to kill me again?''
 
 In Corriere Della Sera, another cartoon showed Jesus trapped in
  his tomb, unable to rise, because Ariel Sharon, with rifle in hand, is
  sitting on the sepulcher.  The caption: ''Non resurrexit.''
 
 In Germany, a rabbinical student was beaten up in downtown Berlin
  and a grenade was thrown into a Jewish cemetery.  Thousands of neo-Nazis
  held a rally, marching near a synagogue on the Jewish Sabbath.  Graffiti
  appeared on a synagogue in the western town of Herford: ''Six million
  were not enough.''
 
 In Ukraine, skinheads attacked Jewish worshippers and smashed the
  windows of Kiev's main synagogue. Ukrainian police denied that the attack
  was anti-Jewish.
 
 In Greece, Jewish graves were desecrated in Loannina and vandals
  hurled paint at the Holocaust memorial in Salonica.
 
 In Holland, an anti-Israel demonstration featured swastikas,
  photos of Hitler, and chants of ''Sieg Heil'' and ''Jews into the sea.''
 
 In Slovakia, the Jewish cemetery of Kosice was invaded and 135
  tombstones destroyed.
 
 But nowhere have the flames of anti-Semitism burned more furiously
  than in France.
 
 In Lyon, a car was rammed into a synagogue and set on fire.  In
  Montpellier, the Jewish religious center was firebombed; so were

 synagogues

  in Strasbourg and Marseilles; so was a Jewish school in Creteil.  A
  Jewish sports club in Toulouse was attacked with Molotov cocktails, and
  on the statue of Alfred Dreyfus in Paris, the words ''Dirty Jew'' were
  painted.
 
 In Bondy, 15 men beat up members of a Jewish football team with
  sticks and metal bars.  The bus that takes Jewish children to school in
  Aubervilliers has been attacked three times in the last 14 months.
 
 According to the police, metropolitan Paris has seen 10 to 12
  anti-Jewish incidents per day

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2003-11-06 Thread Daniel Harrison
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Can anyone enlighten myself on the origans of Faction 2  3?

It would be much appreciated!
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Re: [CTRL] make the shills think twice

2003-11-04 Thread Daniel Harrison
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From what i know to be fact i'll tell you about disbelieving too quickly, dont
be too hastly my friend there is more to it than you know

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 The future's here, we're it, we're on our own. John Barlow and Bob Weir,
 1982.

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 Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 15:07:56 +1100
 From: Gerard Holmgren [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: make the shills think twice

 In the article below, the German mainstream gets desperate enough to call
 in the psychologists and mass communication experts to ridicule the
 ridiculous conspiracy theories about 11/9, now spreading so worryingly
 through the youth of Germany and France.
 http://iafrica.com/news/worldnews/268874.htm

 These schmucks give us the usual pompous pontifications on people's need to
 invent wildly paranoid fantasies in order to explain the incomprehensible
 evil of what was perpetrated on 11/9.

 Perhaps if they get a flood of emails in response, setting things straight,
 they'll think twice next time before putting their hand up for shill
 duties.

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 These guys need to learn that if they think they can snipe from behind a
 rock from the lofty perch of the mainstream press and remain unaccountable
 for their comments, then they'd better think again.

 Let 'em have it! Whether you choose to be aggressive, rational,
 sarcastic,informative - whatever - is up to you.

 I pretended to be a supporter and sent them a link to my mad conpiracy
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[CTRL] Reasearch on illuminati

2003-11-04 Thread Daniel Harrison
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Does anyone know of a good site for reasearch on the illuminati and associated
foundations? ive recieved some internal memos that suggest some crediable
links between the bush administration and some jewish financiers of a shady
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