Re: [CTRL] Cell Phone Research?
-Caveat Lector- Peter, Thanks for your reply. Please send direct to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Much appreciation! Rusty earthman wrote: > -Caveat Lector- > > I have a collection of emails and links re cell phones.. Where can I send > them ?? > > Peter > > We are about to go on a Journey. All Aboard > http://sites.netscape.net/gsussnzl/poleshift > > - Original Message - > From: Edward Ford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 1999 2:35 PM > Subject: [CTRL] Cell Phone Research? > > > -Caveat Lector- > > > > Here's a chance to help a friend of mine. He has asked me to help him > > research the peculiarities of cell phones (he's writing an article on > > the subject). modern marvel, social menace, mind control device, brain > > microwave oven, , etc. Any links to detailed research and outlandish > > claims would be much appreciated. > > > > if anyone can help, its ctrl. > > thanks much, > > rusty-birmingham, al. usa > > > > DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER > > == > > CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting > propagandic > > screeds are not allowed. Substance-not soapboxing! These are sordid > matters > > and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and > outright > > frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor > effects > > spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL > > gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to > readers; > > be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and > > nazi's need not apply. > > > > Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. > > > > Archives Available at: > > http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html > > > > http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ > > > > To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: > > SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: > > SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Om > > > > DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER > == > CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic > screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters > and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright > frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects > spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL > gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; > be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and > nazi's need not apply. > > Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. > > Archives Available at: > http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html > > http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ > > To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: > SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: > SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Om DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Cell Phone Research?
-Caveat Lector- Here's a chance to help a friend of mine. He has asked me to help him research the peculiarities of cell phones (he's writing an article on the subject). modern marvel, social menace, mind control device, brain microwave oven, , etc. Any links to detailed research and outlandish claims would be much appreciated. if anyone can help, its ctrl. thanks much, rusty-birmingham, al. usa DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] The smoking of hemp
snip and b.t.w. washington and jefferson traded samples of their crops; washington saying that a pipeful of hemp was much more pleasurable than a pipeful of tobacco and more enjoyable than whiskey! just thought you would like to know. I too have heard this for years and have never found it referenced. Do you have any credible links to documented letters, etc?rusty __ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html Additional sites & lists: http://www.farm-online.com/farms/royalscot.htm [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] And check out these lists: AnimaLovers farmers_barter We are about to go on a Journey. All Aboard http://sites.netscape.net/gsussnzl/homepage Bargain Books http://bn.bfast.com/bfast/click/mid1349732?siteid=10734186&bfpage=b DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Scientists Study Aspartame/Brain Cancer Link
Hi Bill, Here is a good link to research on the poison aspartame... The Chemical Manipulation of Human Consciousness also Aspartame Research Reference Materials and Aspartame (Nutrasweet) Toxicity Information Center and Neotame Toxicity Information Center but wait there's more http://www.tiac.net/users/mgold/aspartame/brain.txt and Dr. Olney Feb. 1997 Brain Tumor Update, answering the skeptics! (part 1of 3) and Cancer and Aspartame There's a hell of a lot more on this poison but frankly I'm burnt on linking. Hope you find these article enlightening, and stop ingesting this shit, it WILL kill you. Rusty William Shannon wrote: -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 8/3/99 2:36:13 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Here are a few articles on a new study of the well-known link between aspartame and brain cancer. >> ==Since when is any like between aspartame and human cancer "well known"?? Could you produce documentation? Wuold sure like a look! Bill. DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Homosexuals in the Military:OR Homosexual, Control Fiends and Pedophiles
-Caveat Lector- Hey let's do this, apply the authors logic to God. I have not seen Him/Her display any responsibility for His/Her creation. Given His/Her track record, I certainly wouldn't want Him/Her in a foxhole next to me. Not only do I not know His/Her sexuality, He/She has shown no interest what so ever in the workings of mankind, all the way up to and including the death of his/her own son! The authors bias is appalling and an insult to every person on the planet. You just gave it the name "homosexual". If you, 1lls0081 wrote this piece, I urge you to get help. It is bigoted concepts like these that lead to young black men being dragged behind cars, and young gay men to be murdered. Their blood is own your hands. God help you, but then again given your logic, there's a fat chance of that. But in this case, I don't blame Him/Her! eeford 1lls0081 wrote: > -Caveat Lector- > > http://freeweb.digiweb.com/science_fiction/ThePiedPiper/sci_fi.htm > http://freeweb.digiweb.com/science_fiction/ThePiedPiper/homo.htm > > Homosexuals in the Military > OR Homosexual, Control Fiend, Pedophile > > Homosexuals: Who or What is Really Hiding in the Closet? > (The Military as an Example) > > Many people would define the homosexual lifestyle > as one of promiscuity. The reason for this is that > homosexuals seem to be like the legendary "Peter Pan." > By refusing to commit to someone of the > opposite sex, they normally do not have to worry > about the responsibility of children, much less the > responsibility of a commitment. Also if they do > decide to break off the relationship they normally do > not have to worry about the legal tangles of divorce. > Should admitted homosexuals that are seen as > promiscuous, unable to make commitments, and > unwilling to take on responsibility for other people > be allowed to serve in the military? > > In the military you have to trust that the person next > to you is Reliable enough that they won't get you > killed. The military oath is a promise to defend the > country. The contract that you are required to > sign upon being accepted into the military is a commitment. > Being in the military, means that you are > responsible for the people you work with and that they > are responsible for you. What kind of person > do you want to depend on? Would you rather > depend on someone that is willing to take on > commitments of religion and family, or would > you rather have to depend on someone that has a > noncommittal lifestyle. By signing up in the military, > you are signing an agreement that allows other > people to control your life. So if the people that > you are allowing to tell you what to do with your life > were to require that you have to live with a person > that doesn't seem to care about anything other > than themselves, it seems as if the concept of trust > and teamwork might get lost. > > Those same concepts of trust and teamwork are > concepts the military can not afford to lose. Often > the military is a large part of the first contact that > the United States will have with other cultures. > Since they often have the responsibility of dealing > with people from other cultures, they need to be > perceived as stable and responsible. If people in > the military, are perceived by other countries as > allowed to have idiosyncrasies such as this, will > the other countries be enthusiastic about allowing > our military to help when they have problems. > The military image requires that the people of the > military be true to the most stringent standards > that their culture has. If you can not take pride > yourself and your own culture, how can you > understand the pride that someone else has in their > culture. > > True homosexuals have decided what sex they > are and what life style they want to follow. True > homosexuals have seldom if ever been known > to rape a heterosexual. This is usually, if not always > done by those that use sex as a control feature. > These controlling personalities are really in the > closet! Because if the real truth were known, > they usually are willing to have sex with any person - > male or female of any age. These control fiends > are the type to have a physical relationship with a > single or divorce mother and also think nothing > of having a relationship with here male OR female > child. These control fiends are the ones that think > that a child (as young as six) is old enough to > decide their sexual orientation and to have a > physical relationship, at six, based on that design. They > refer to the child's parents, as people that have > a slave mentality, and that want to keep the child > from making an immediate choice. They are the > main ones that would like to see homosexuals > completely accepted since it will be harder to > question these control fiends at that time. > > Some countries have been sympathetic to the > American Homosexual. Iceland has an > overwhelmingly female pop
Re: [CTRL] A Simple Poll
-Caveat Lector- Bill Richer wrote: > -Caveat Lector- > > Dear Friends: > What Political Party do you belong to? > > Republican ___x_ Democrat Other > > Do you consider yourself? > > Conservative Liberal x Moderate > >Do you believe that President Clinton is Guilty? > >x Yes No > >Do you believe he should have been removed from office? > > x Yes No > > Any further Comments: > > Please fill these questions out ASAP and send back to me and I'll send results > out later? > > God Bless > Bill > > DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER > == > CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic > screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters > and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright > frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects > spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL > gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; > be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and > nazi's need not apply. > > Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. > > Archives Available at: > http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html > > http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ > > To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: > SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: > SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Om DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] apology
-Caveat Lector- Hi Meg, I mostly lurk also...it's a tough list, folks are very serious, maybe more so than the issues. As much as I do not participate, I still "learn" a great deal on this list, there are little gems strewn here and there, some morsels so fine it is worth filtering through all the bs, disinfo, misinfo, bias, etc. I suppose I never expected to find friends on this genre of a list, so I haven't really expected even civility. I don't bother to participate, emotions run too high for me. Take what you can, for the rest there's a delete key. Namaste', Rusty Meg Perry wrote: > -Caveat Lector- > > I'm sorry that my insecure attempt at lighthearted humour appeared to be ' > complaining ' it was never intended that way, I misunderstood what was and > what was not acceptable on this list. I have been on e mail lists for 3yrs and > have never before been accused of breaking nettiquette, sorry if I annoyed > anyone - back into lurking I go. > > Meg > > DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER > == > CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic > screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters > and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright > frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects > spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL > gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; > be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and > nazi's need not apply. > > Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. > > Archives Available at: > http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html > > http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ > > To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: > SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: > SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Om DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] This will scare you...you've been warned!
Things are getting really interesting over at Ed Yourdon's BBS...I thought some of you may want to see this. It was just posted, here's the link if the formatting is screwy. This will scare you..you've been warned!! And y2k is no big deal... Rusty l scare you..you've been warned!! asked in the TimeBomb 2000 (Y2000) Q&A Forum First read the transmission, to make what you can from it, then read the analysis. On Fri, 8 Jan 99 1:20:04 GMT } } This is very, very interesting. Intercepted this Naval Message, which }is seeking to get Naval Reserve Officers (Selected Reserve) into positions }with FEMA and CONUSA. } I can't decide if this is Y2K, expected other trouble, or all of that. }This is very unusual - The Navy has been losing people at a very high }rate. Remarkable that they would give up so many in this way. } } It is worth remembering that the posse comitatus act doesn't apply to }the Navy or the Marine Corp. } } }P 041500Z JAN 99 ZYB PSN 478994J41 }FM COMNAVRESFOR NEW ORLEANS LA//N511// }TO NAVRESFOR }BT }UNCLAS //N03000// }MSGID/GENADMIN/COMNAVRESFOR// }SUBJ/ADVERTISEMENT FOR NAVY EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS LIAISON OFFICER }/(NEPLO) BILLETS// }PAGE 02 RUCOMCC0966 UNCLAS }REF/A/DOC/COMNAVRESFOR/960301// }AMPN/REF A IS COMNAVRESFORINST 3000.1D DETAILS THE NEPLO PROGRAM// }POC/MR. R.P. DAVIS/GS-12/N511/-/TEL:DSN 678-5075/TEL:DSN 678-1994 }/TEL:(504) 678-5075/TEL:(504) 678-1994// }RMKS/1. PURPOSE OF THIS MSG IS TO ANNOUNCE NEPLO BILLET VACANCIES AND TO }SOLICIT APPLICATIONS FROM QUALIFIED SENIOR NAVAL RESERVE OFFICERS. }2. BACKGROUND. THE NEPLO PROGRAM IS A SELRES PROGRAM IN WHICH }SELECTIVE RESERVE OFFICERS REPRESENT AND SUPPORT NAVY COMMANDERS IN }MPLEMENTING THEIR RESPONSIBILITIES UNDER THE NATIONAL SECURITY }EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS AND MILITARY SUPPORT TO CIVIL AUTHORITY }PROGRAMS. SELRES OFFICERS ASSIGNED TO THESE BILLETS ARE SPECIALLY }SELECTED BY A COMNAVRESFOR SELECTION BOARD. SUCCESSFUL NEPLOS ARE THOSE THAT HAVE EXCEPTIONAL COMMUNICATION AND INTERPERSONAL SKILLS AND CAN BE EFFECTIVE INTERFACING WITH HIGH RANKING MILITARY AND CIVIL OFFICIALS. NEPLOS ARE UNDER THE OPERATIONAL CONTROL OF THE SUPPORTED NAVY COMMANDER AND NORMALLY DRILL AT THEIR ASSIGNED HEADQUARTERS SITE IN A JOINT MILITARY ENVIRONMENT. }DETAILS OF THE PROGRAM ARE CONTAINED IN REF (A) AND ON THE INTERNET AT }WWW.NAVY.MIL/NAVRESFOR/N5/N51.HTM } }3. ELIGIBILITY. } A. NAVAL RESERVE OFFICERS (05/06) WITH DESIGNATOR 11X5, 13X5, }1635/55,1705, 31X5 AND 51X5. } B. BASED UPON AGE, YEARS OF COMMISSIONED SERVICE AND DATE OF }RANK, HAVE SUFFICIENT TIME REMAINING BEFORE MANDATORY RETIREMENT (30 }YEARS) TO COMPLETE A THREE YEAR TOUR IN THE BILLET. } C. APPLICATIONS FOR CDR BILLETS ARE NOT DESIRED FROM NDIVIDUALS WHO }HAVE BEEN BOARD SELECTED FOR CAPT. } D. INDIVIDUALS APPLYING FOR THE NEPLO BILLETS AT THE CONTINENTAL }ARMY (CONUSA), DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE (DOD), DIRECTOR OF MILITARY }SUPPORT, FORCES COMMAND AND FEMA REG 09 DET HI MUST BE ABLE TO }PERFORM THEIR INACTIVE DRILLS DURING THE REGULAR WORKWEEK. } E. INDIVIDUALS APPLYING FOR THE BILLETS AT THE STATE ADJUTANTS }GENERAL HEADQUARTERS MUST BE A RESIDENT OF THE STATE IN WHICH THE BILLET }IS LOCATED. } F. INDIVIDUALS APPLYING FOR DOD, FORSCOM, CONUSA, AND FEMA }BILLETS MUST RESIDE WITHIN 200 MILES OF THE DRILL SITE. } G. INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE COMPLETED A THREE YEAR TOUR AS AN NEPLO MAY }NOT APPLY FOR ANOTHER NEPLO BILLET UNTIL ONE YEAR HAS ELAPSED. }4. APPLICATION AND SELECTION PROCEDURES. } A. INTERESTED NAVAL RESERVE OFFICERS ARE TO SUBMIT THE FOLLOWING }DOCUMENTS (1) SHORT COVER LTR OUTLINING BILLET DESIRED, CONTACT }PHONE NOS/EMAIL ADDRESS (2) OFFICER SUMMARY RECORD, (3) COPIES OF LAST }THREE REGULAR FITNESS REPORTS, (4) CURRENT OFFICIAL PHOTOGRAPH, (5) SHORT }CIVILIAN BIO OR OFFICER QUALIFICATIONS QUESTIONAIRE (NO OTHER DOCUMENTS ARE }DESIRED). SUBMIT APPLICATION TO COMMANDER, NAVAL RESERVE FORCE (N511), 4400 }DAUPHINE STREET, NEW ORLEANS, LA 70146-5000 NLT 01 JUNE 1999. } B. NEPLOS WILL BE SELECTED BY A COMNAVRESFOR BOARD TO CONVENE IN }JUNE. }TO ENSURE CONSIDERATION FOR OTHER RESERVE BILLET OPPORTUNITIES, }INDIVIDUALS APPLYING FOR NEPLO BILLETS ARE ENCOURAGED TO ALSO APPLY FOR OTHER BILLETS THEY MAY DESIRE. HOWEVER, THOSE OFFICERS SELECTED FOR NEPLO POSITIONS WILL BE EXPECTED TO ACCEPT APPOINTMENT. } C. ANNOUNCEMENT OF SELECTIONS WILL BE MADE PRIOR TO 01 JULY 99. }INQUIRIES PRIOR TO OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT ARE NOT DESIRED. }5. AVAILABLE BILLETS. }BILLET RANK LOCATION (DRILL SITE) }NEPLO CONUSA ONE CAPT GREAT LAKES, IL }NEPLO CONUSA FIVE CAPT SAN DIEGO, CA }NEPLO ALASKA COMMAND CAPT ELMENDORF, AFB, AK }NEPLO ALASKA COMMAND CDR ELMENDORF, AFB, AK }NEPLO FORCES COMMAND CAPT ATLANTA, GA }NEPLO ALASKA CAPT/CDR FORT RICHARDSON, AK
Re: [CTRL] Striped Sleeves Mean Impeachment Is Military?
-Caveat Lector- Teo1000 and all, Last night on the local 10pm news, I saw a dated news clip from Clinton's 2nd inauguration, where he was taking the oath of office from the chief justice...the "gold stripes" were present then...I don't know what the story was referring to however, the audio was muted and, I was reading and just glanced up and saw the stripes, smiled at the conspiracy of it all, and went back to my book. Figured I'd post the info today, thanks for the lead-in Teo1000. Rusty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > -Caveat Lector- > > In a message dated 1/15/99 7:22:48 PM Eastern Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > << In 1994, Perrine played the > role of the Lord Chancellor in "Iolanthe" on a night when Rehnquist was in > the audience. Afterwards, the Chief Justice had the gold-striped Lord > Chancellor's robe copied. Perrine also performed in "Patience" in 1986, when > Rehnquist had a walk-on part. (Note: The Victorian Lyric Opera Company is > performing "Princess Ida" by Gilbert and Sullivan weekdays from February 17 > through March 7. For more information, contact 301-879-0220.) (3:00) > -- >> > > Well, it doesn't say how long afterward it was copied, or whether he ever wore > it during other proceedings. > Teo1000 > > DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER > == > CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic > screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters > and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright > frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects > spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL > gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; > be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and > nazi's need not apply. > > Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. > > Archives Available at: > http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html > > http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ > > To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: > SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: > SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Om DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Y2K going south
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Re: [CTRL] Nat'l Guard, FEMA, and Y2K!!!!
Hi Harry & Kinda, Exactly, "wake up sheeple", when I read some of the naive post, re y2k, I want to jump through my monitor and just shake some sense into to these folks. Do the research, do the math. Do the "Domino Engine". Y2K Domino Engine or if your mail program does not read html, it's http://www.y2knewswire.com/Y2Kengine.asp With a 5% failure rate across the board, that calculates to a 58.2% chance of Total Collapse! As Hamasaki say's "get out of the city, get out of the city, get out of the city." [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- Actually, that's a good point about Clinton's silence, Kinda. But I think Rusty, by leaving off the quotation marks, made it appear as though the views he was quoting are his. If I'm not mistaken, the only viewpoint that is his, and which should read as a wry commentary on the others, is, "Wake up sheeple" Best, Harry Allen In a message dated 1/6/1999 2:02:55 PM, you wrote: << -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 99-01-06 12:31:30 EST, you write: > It's only a bump in the road...it may be the biggest hype of the 20th > century...it's just a way for computer people to make moere money...Y2k > is nothing...wake up sheeple > > Rusty Hi Rusty How can you be so sure about y2k being a hype..what do you know that the rest of us don't know? If Clinton was on the air waves telling us how bad things are going to be because of y2k, then I would think it was a hype. As long as he is silent on the issue, I tend to believe that y2k is for real, the big question is whether or not y2k is a planned event. Clinton is the one to watch..it isn't in what he says, but what he doesn't say. I tend to think that y2k is a planned event just because of our "leaders" silence. Kinda >> DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Nat'l Guard, FEMA, and Y2K!!!!
-Caveat Lector- Hi Kinda, Sorry if you misunderstood my sarcastic tone. see below... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > -Caveat Lector- > > In a message dated 99-01-06 12:31:30 EST, you write: > > > It's only a bump in the road...it may be the biggest hype of the 20th > > century...it's just a way for computer people to make moere money...Y2k > > is nothing...wake up sheeple > > > > Rusty > > Hi Rusty > > How can you be so sure about y2k being a hype..what do you know that the rest > of us don't know? Can't say I know more than anyone else on the subject, I have, however, been researching the problem for close to 3 years and on a scale of 1 to 10, I give Y2K a minimum of an 8 Could be much, much worse. I fully expect panic, martial law, rationing, riots, the whole enchilada! > If Clinton was on the air waves telling us how bad things > are going to be because of y2k, then I would think it was a hype. As long as > he is silent on the issue, I tend to believe that y2k is for real, the big > question is whether or not y2k is a planned event. Planned, doubtful. BUT untilized for THEIR purposes...probably. Ever heard of the UN's Global 2000 Report, overseen by Kissenger, commissioned by Jimmy Carter, calls for a reduction in plantary population by 80% by the year 2000. Let's see that's 80% of 6 Billion, Hummm, that's 4.8 Billion dead in the next 11 and one half months. I will be very surprised if there is a presidential election next year due to the "bug". > Clinton is the one to > watch..it isn't in what he says, but what he doesn't say. I tend to think that > y2k is a planned event just because of our "leaders" silence. > > Kinda > Can't argue with that. Cheers, Rusty > DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER > == > CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic > screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters > and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright > frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects > spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL > gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; > be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and > nazi's need not apply. > > Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. > > Archives Available at: > http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html > > http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ > > To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: > SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: > SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Om DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Nat'l Guard, FEMA, and Y2K!!!!
-Caveat Lector- It's only a bump in the road...it may be the biggest hype of the 20th century...it's just a way for computer people to make moere money...Y2k is nothing...wake up sheeple Rusty By David M. Bresnahan © 1999 WorldNetDaily.com The National Guard is planning its first national mobilization of troops since 1940 in preparation for civil unrest resulting from the Y2K millennium bug, WorldNetDaily has learned. The National Guard Bureau in Washington is currently formulating plans for a mobilization test, in conjunction with the Federal Emergency Management Agency. If Y2K causes a complete shutdown of all communications, the National Guard will need a way to mobilize troops, according to several officers who believe their careers would be at risk if their names were made public. These officers spoke separately with WorldNetDaily. Each is in a position to know about the plans at a national level within the National Guard Bureau. "What's driving this thing are the folks underneath the senior leadership," said one officer. "Some of the IT guys and command and control guys are the ones who are driving this because they see what the problem is," one of the sources told WorldNetDaily in an exclusive interview. The plan as it is now being designed, will be a mock mobilization of all 480,000 members of the National Guard in all 54 states and territories. Exercise COMEX/MOBEX will be conducted without telephone, radio, or television to get the word to all guard members. "This will be a simulated COMM-Out," explained another member of the group. "In other words, the standard method of recall, the telephone, will not be an option. The driver for this exercise is Y2K," she added. Concern about potential panic and unrest over Y2K failures of communications, power, and transportation has prompted the National Guard Bureau to plan for the worst. If such a scenario occurs, the guard will need to be mobilized through some means other than standard electronic communications. Exercise COMEX/MOBEX will be a test, not an actual mobilization. Guard members will be contacted, but they will not actually have to report. WorldNetDaily spoke with several full-time guard members who work at the national level. Each is an officer, and each is concerned that the public is not being properly informed of the extent and seriousness of problems -- including civil liberties issues -- associated with the Y2K computer bug. "I've taken an oath, and I don't see some of the senior folks following through on their oath," explained one officer of his reasons for making this known. "Not only is my oath to the Constitution, but it's to the people. As far as I'm concerned, the faster and sooner people are educated on this stuff the less panic will ensue." Another officer is equally concerned and agreed. He pointed out that people panic when they are caught unprepared and unaware. He says the Clinton administration should be doing more to prevent panic. "No one with any leadership has stepped forward and said we need to take prudent steps," he explained. "The Canadians are way ahead on this. They've already told their folks. They're doing a good job of letting their people know what's going on." WorldNetDaily has also learned that all military and civilian federal employees are scheduled to be paid a little differently in December 1999. Payroll for January 2000 will be paid a month early. One of the officers says that is to place guard members in a situation
[CTRL] Are your neighboe worth saving-Y2K
-Caveat Lector- This question was ask by Mitch Barnes on Ed Yourdons Y2k BBS, TimeBomb2000, surprised at the answers there, curious to see the responses here. Are your Neighbors worth saving? Hmm Rusty DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] A Dose of Reality-Y2K
http://www.greenspun.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=000Lr4 or "Bad news, BAD. Bad things not happen. This America. Bad things not happen in America. " or here's the text, if you will view full screen, the formatting should be ok, maybe...kinda like y2k itself...on the link, there are responses to Paul's post on Ed Yourdon's BBS. Excellent site for Y2k, I might add. Rusty From csy2k - a dose of reality, folks... . . . . From GN's site: Comment: People reject bad news. They assume that bad events are abnormal and good events are normal. They think they deserve good news. So, they reject bad news. They put it out of their minds. They get angry at anyone who sells warnings of bad times ahead. As the prime law of infomercials says: "You can't sell prevention. You can only sell cures." For three decades, 1965 to 1995, senior men in the IT deparments feared telling senior management that a disaster was coming in 2000. They knew what the reactions would be. "That's crazy." "We'll wait until 1998 to fix it." "You're fired." A few companies got started in 1995. Citibank did. Chase Manhattan Bank did. Neither is compliant today. 1995 was too late. If it was too late for the banking system, it's too late for everything else. If the phone companies go down, the banks go down, and so do the power companies. The phone companies are far behind the banks, according to this report. Most companies have deferrred implementing a multimillion dollar repair. Now, having waited, it's too late. Corporate officers are now admitting that some processes won't be compliant. Which ones, they refuse to say. Later this year, insider selling of corporate shares will begin. That will be the sign that the end of an era is upon us. You have a head start. Don't lose it. It's almost gone. This is from FOX MARKET WIRE (Jan. 2). * * * * * * * * * * The new millennium and its much-anticipated computer bug is still a year away but many U.S. companies are already throwing in the towel. They admit they won't be ready. Companies are beginning to make such frank statements on Y2K risks to cover themselves against possible securities litigation, analysts said. The statements also provide ammunition for their own suits. Companies such as Chevron Corp. and AT&T Corp. say their systems may be vulnerable to significant failures as they grapple with the Year 2000 date change. McDonald's Corp. and DuPont Co. are more confident their machines can handle the date change. They are less sure about those of suppliers and local governments. . . . "The fundamental cost of Y2K is the risk of business interruption,'' said Jeff Ray, a vice president at Compuware Corp., a leading software testing company. Companies have still not done most of the tedious and costly work to fix Year 2000 computer bugs. "It appears that over half the work will be crammed into 1999,'' said Steven Hock, chief executive of research company Triaxsys Research LLC. . . . As companies realize they and their partners may not achieve full compliance, they are planning back-up systems and looking for alternate vendors. . . . The technologically complex telecoms sector ranks dead last among all other industries in progress toward completion of Y2K projects, according to Triaxsys. Also behind are the utilities industry and the energy sector. . . . Industries leading the race are banking, securities and insurance, all of which began looking at Y2K up to 10 years ago largely because of regulatory requirements. Most telecom companies only began looking at the issue two to three years ago. . . . Link: http://www.foxmarketwire.com/wires/0102/f_rt_0102_2.sml From the above article , you can see that the work is not getting done, it has not been done and it will not be done, in time. However, we have relative newcomers like Preston Crawford and Reg Smith and ZB who have read, oh, I'd say about one one thousandth as much about Y2K as some of us. Are they entitled to their opinions, yes. We are not discussing that 'entitlement'. We are discussing the veracity of the opinions. They can not discuss the issues, because the conclusion is bad news. In their neanderthal minds they say, "Good news GOOD, Bad news, BAD. Bad things not happen. This America. Bad things not happen in America. People who say bad things happen, "BAD" people!" I understand their 'anger and their hatred and their intolerance' of the truth. More than a year and a half ago, I said that they were not moving fast enough. They said they were 'serious'. Yet the bulk of the Fortune 500 had not even finished assesments until THIS year. The federal government had a budget of $1 billion dollars. I laughed at that. Yet these were seasoned proff
Re: [CTRL] Y2K Info
Hello all, There is an excellent article appearing in this months Vanity Fair Magazine, someone has posted the entire article on the csy2k newsgroup. Here's the link. It is long but well worth the time. RemarQ [Software Year 2000] 12.31.99 The Y2K Nightmare -Vanity Fair- January 1999 Happy New Year to all, Rusty "Never try to teach a pig to sing. It wastes your time and annoys the pig." An old farmer
Re: [CTRL] Social Security Called Y2K Ready
-Caveat Lector- I could be mistaken, but, doesn't the Treasury Department print those checks? Treasury is in deep do-do. Happy New Year, Rusty Carl Amedio wrote: > -Caveat Lector- > > Social Security Called Y2K Ready > > By ROBERT BURNS Associated Press Writer > > WASHINGTON (AP) -- The Social Security Administration has completed its > preparations for the Year 2000, ensuring the government's ability to deliver > benefit checks to millions of Americans into the new millennium without > computer problems, President Clinton announced today. > > ``The millennium bug will not delay the payment of Social Security checks by a > single day,'' Clinton said in a White House ceremony. > > ``The Social Security system is now 100 percent compliant with our standards > and safeguards for the year 2000,'' the president said. ``To make absolutely > certain, the system has been tested and validated by a panel of independent > experts. The system works. It is secure, and therefore older Americans can > feel more secure.'' > > Kathy Adams, the Social Security Administration's assistant deputy > commissioner for systems, said it took 2,800 workers, including 700 > programmers, to ensure the agency's computers are ready for the year 2000. > > Clinton said the potential disruptions on Jan. 1, 2000 go well beyond the > Social Security system. > > ``This involves not just federal agencies, but everyone who depends upon a > computer, which is everyone, directly or indirectly,'' Clinton said. ``Federal > and state governments and local governments, businesses large and small -- the > year 2000 problem reveals the connections between all of us.'' > > Mostly to save money, programmers of early computers represented each year by > its last two digits rather than by all four -- 1972 became 72. Trouble begins > when computers try to add or subtract dates using that two-digit format and > the world approaches the Year 2000, or 00. The larger, old mainframe computers > still used by government and big corporations for many vital functions are > particularly vulnerable. > > The Clinton administration has set a goal of ensuring that all critical > federal computer systems are Y2K compliant by March 31, 1999. > > DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER > == > CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic > screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters > and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright > frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects > spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL > gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; > be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and > nazi's need not apply. > > Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. > > > To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: > SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: > SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Om DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
