Re: [CTRL] Yahoo is run by the Illuminati
made me salivate. The infrastructure hasn't kept up with the bandwidth demand leaving it vulnerable to disruption, and having a bunch of data cannons out there ready to go off... not good. -franc If it does not come up then you will know right away who is censoring and who is not. Support those who support FREE SPEECH like www.alltheweb.com . -Original Message- From: Conspiracy Theory Research List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Franc Tireur Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2003 12:23 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] Yahoo is run by the Illuminati -Caveat Lector- The Illuminati as a generic term has been used to personify and marginalize forces of being which we have no control over. When one screams Yahoo is run by the Illuminati coupled with an inane fear of floating-point arithmetic, I start to wonder... There once was a time when people felt it necessary to find cover during an eclipse too. Are you getting points from alltheweb for spamming the list? -franc -Original Message- From: Conspiracy Theory Research List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Shemuwel Antoine Moser Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2003 3:05 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [CTRL] Yahoo is run by the Illuminati -Caveat Lector- Use www.alltheweb.com - A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance-not soap-boxing-please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'-with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds-is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance-not soap-boxing-please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'-with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds-is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance-not soap-boxing-please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'-with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds-is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory
Re: [CTRL] Yahoo is run by the Illuminati
-Caveat Lector- Sorry... the link to the airsnort homepage was inadvertently in error. http://www.airsnort.shmoo.com is the correct one... oopsie... -Original Message- From: Conspiracy Theory Research List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Franc Tireur Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2003 9:16 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] Yahoo is run by the Illuminati -Caveat Lector- -Original Message- From: Conspiracy Theory Research List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Shemuwel Antoine Moser Sent: Friday, January 03, 2003 10:29 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] Yahoo is run by the Illuminati -Caveat Lector- Anyone out there. If you want to see who is censoring your site on the internet just insert a code into each of your pages so you can use that code to quickly pull up your site in the Search Results. At this point you are assuming the meta-crawlers automatically re-index the site using the new keywords. This is not the case. I do much web-design, and often it takes 2 weeks to a month for refreshed pages to be re-indexed using the new information. This is not censorship, but simply a result of the daunting task of keeping an accurate index of the billions of web-pages out there in the public domain. It is interesting to note that the Google engine was actually used by crackers (I'm not using the term Hacker here purposefully, as by definition taking someone elses tools and exploiting them is not in essence Hacking) to index some private domains too (ie. DOD, MIL, GOV, etc.) I read and interpret my own web-logs, and know when people come and go. My site gets re-indexed once every two months by Google, which is about the same frequency as the other search engines. from http://www.searchenginewatch.com/awards/2001-winners.html#webmaster From http://www.google.com/corporate/facts.html From http://news.com.com/2011-1088-916882.html?tag=rmrftr Please forward the information you have about Google being owned by Yahoo, as I can find no mention of it anywhere. They apparently own 5-6% of Google, which I wouldn't exactly call a majority stake. As far as the whole Cisco IOS fiasco is concerned... If I were to obtain the source-code to Windows and somehow tweaked the OS and redistributed it, Microsoft wouldn't support that. Same with Red Hat, same with Mandrake, same with FreeDOS, same with EROS, same with beOS, same with Solaris, same with open/VMS, same with... well, you get the point. There has to be some point of control for the maintenance and distribution of software, and the publisher more often than not will determine what that point of control is. If I came up with some code that say doubled download throughput, it isn't beyond the scope of possibility that I could've tweaked the kernel elsewhere to open up a backdoor or allow the delivery of a Trojan program at some point. Should that be freely distributed to everyone? While the author of the malware may think that is a good idea, I don't think the publisher would agree. At this point you can plainly see where the They're all out to get me! mentality is reversed upon the publisher. So SBC tweaked IOS on their routers. I tweak IOS on my routers. There are finite and observable things which occur between that strange black-box you have your machine plugged into and the outside world. If you do not have an understanding of these things and they frighten you, I apologize. However, you have to realize that (from what I've read on IS Security Trade websites and in industry newsletters) a good deal of the broadband (above ISDN - speed or 128k) products connected to the internet are compromised out-of-the-box by the ignorance of their users. The manufacturers are getting better at sealing these vulnerabilities up with their default settings, but there is already a dearth of compromised routers out there with lots of bandwidth. These compromised routers have been used by script-kiddies to essentially shut down some transit routers in the past year via massive packet floods, etc. (see www.grc.com) You just have to know what you are doing when you install the darn things (the directions suck, especially for the layman) and have a hub, packet sniffer, and the associated hardware installed. People have a misguided conception that these things are safe out-of-the-box. Of greater concern to me is the proliferation of 802b wireless, and some of the shoddy installs which have been found nationwide (see www.airsnort.com). This is not the fault of the manufacturers, as they are just giving us what we want. We want to roam freely from room-to-room with our laptops as we surf the net, or not bother with pulling some of that pesky CAT-5 cabling through the house. Meanwhile, someone like me is checking their e-mail and surfing the web while parked on the street in front of your house. (Oh, by the way... thanks for leaving that My Pictures directory shared... I loved those shots of your wife tied to the banister
Re: [CTRL] Yahoo is run by the Illuminati
rant... HG Wells would've luved ya...) Long Live the Bill Of Rights, The Constitution, and the United STATES of America... not the FEDERAL GOVERNMANT OF AMERICA, which does not represent the will or direction of the American People. We have been Hi-Jacked, so stay tuned... http://www.dubyadubyadubya.com -Original Message- From: Conspiracy Theory Research List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Shemuwel Antoine Moser Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2003 9:31 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] Yahoo is run by the Illuminati -Caveat Lector- My site on the internet was submitted to Yahoo! and Google over six months ago. They are censoring and I know it. I also know that these Search Engines have the ability to enable or disable what ever keywords they want on your site to limit the Search parameters if they do choose to include your site in their Search Engine. Yahoo! and Google censor. I know this to be a fact. They hate anything to be in their Search Engines that is written from a Christian Fundimentalist viewpoint. FACT. -Original Message- From: Conspiracy Theory Research List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Franc Tireur Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2003 11:16 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] Yahoo is run by the Illuminati -Caveat Lector- -Original Message- From: Conspiracy Theory Research List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Shemuwel Antoine Moser Sent: Friday, January 03, 2003 10:29 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] Yahoo is run by the Illuminati -Caveat Lector- Anyone out there. If you want to see who is censoring your site on the internet just insert a code into each of your pages so you can use that code to quickly pull up your site in the Search Results. At this point you are assuming the meta-crawlers automatically re-index the site using the new keywords. This is not the case. I do much web-design, and often it takes 2 weeks to a month for refreshed pages to be re-indexed using the new information. This is not censorship, but simply a result of the daunting task of keeping an accurate index of the billions of web-pages out there in the public domain. It is interesting to note that the Google engine was actually used by crackers (I'm not using the term Hacker here purposefully, as by definition taking someone elses tools and exploiting them is not in essence Hacking) to index some private domains too (ie. DOD, MIL, GOV, etc.) I read and interpret my own web-logs, and know when people come and go. My site gets re-indexed once every two months by Google, which is about the same frequency as the other search engines. from http://www.searchenginewatch.com/awards/2001-winners.html#webmaster From http://www.google.com/corporate/facts.html From http://news.com.com/2011-1088-916882.html?tag=rmrftr Please forward the information you have about Google being owned by Yahoo, as I can find no mention of it anywhere. They apparently own 5-6% of Google, which I wouldn't exactly call a majority stake. As far as the whole Cisco IOS fiasco is concerned... If I were to obtain the source-code to Windows and somehow tweaked the OS and redistributed it, Microsoft wouldn't support that. Same with Red Hat, same with Mandrake, same with FreeDOS, same with EROS, same with beOS, same with Solaris, same with open/VMS, same with... well, you get the point. There has to be some point of control for the maintenance and distribution of software, and the publisher more often than not will determine what that point of control is. If I came up with some code that say doubled download throughput, it isn't beyond the scope of possibility that I could've tweaked the kernel elsewhere to open up a backdoor or allow the delivery of a Trojan program at some point. Should that be freely distributed to everyone? While the author of the malware may think that is a good idea, I don't think the publisher would agree. At this point you can plainly see where the They're all out to get me! mentality is reversed upon the publisher. So SBC tweaked IOS on their routers. I tweak IOS on my routers. There are finite and observable things which occur between that strange black-box you have your machine plugged into and the outside world. If you do not have an understanding of these things and they frighten you, I apologize. However, you have to realize that (from what I've read on IS Security Trade websites and in industry newsletters) a good deal of the broadband (above ISDN - speed or 128k) products connected to the internet are compromised out-of-the-box by the ignorance of their users. The manufacturers are getting better at sealing these vulnerabilities up with their default settings, but there is already a dearth of compromised routers out there with lots of bandwidth. These compromised routers have been used by script-kiddies to essentially shut down some transit routers in the past year via massive packet floods, etc. (see www.grc.com
[CTRL] The proof is in the polling...
-Caveat Lector- The proof is in the polling http://www.misterpoll.com/results.mpl?id=4245524358 http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/10/06/opinion/polls/main524496.shtml http://www.svsu.edu/vanguard/archives/nov4/poll.html A HREF=""www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=""Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=""ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Conspiracy Redux Redux
-Caveat Lector- -Original Message- From: Conspiracy Theory Research List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Bill Howard Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2002 12:20 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] Conspiracy Redux Redux -Caveat Lector- On Tuesday, Dec 31, 2002, at 09:22 US/Pacific, Jay Lowry wrote: This is a battle between Jesus the Christ and God's former favourite fallen angel, Lucifer (seen in a picture of the WTC Bombing -- the Devil is in the smoke, with the horns and looking a lot like his goatish clichÈ self). The goat is not Lucifer, the goat is a middle management deamon. The CIA Black Ops are running all of the Credit Cards, using the 1/1000th of a penny and funding the Northern Alliance and the Columbians so as to again gain control over Afghan Opium and Columbian Cocaine because taxes and siezures of property cannot keep up with the demand for technology and development. This is a possiblity, but we must view this business venture positivly, it is our money and it is being used for the greater good. The Reptilians and the Greys (Grays) are holding their underground lairs and keeping quiet right now as the Universal Galactic Star Federation is considering the Earth as a member based on the the recommendation of the humanoid Aliens, the Aryans. We need to raise the rent on the underground lairs of the reptiilians and the grays. With the extra money we can beautify the neighborhood. And my thanks to the good Aryans for recommending the earth for membership in the Universal Galactic Star Federation. One question, shouldn't the people of earth got to vote on the membership application before it was submitted? Yeah, kind of like how we got to vote on the recent shredding of the Constitution ? So, although there has been many more channelings from Ra and the sightings have increased, this is no indication as to the current state of the Indian and Pakistani fight over Kashmir. We don't need channelings from RA to devine the current state of affairs in Kashmir. TGhe Pakistanis hate the Indians and will kill any indian they can, any time and at any place. The indians hate the Pakistanis and will kill any Pakistani they can,any time and at any place. The only viable solution is to spray the whole indian sub continent with industrial strengh raid and be done with it. A HREF=""> DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="" of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=""> To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF=""www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=""Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=""ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Yahoo is run by the Illuminati
-Caveat Lector- The Illuminati as a generic term has been used to personify and marginalize forces of being which we have no control over. When one screams Yahoo is run by the Illuminati coupled with an inane fear of floating-point arithmetic, I start to wonder... There once was a time when people felt it necessary to find cover during an eclipse too. Are you getting points from alltheweb for spamming the list? -franc -Original Message- From: Conspiracy Theory Research List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Shemuwel Antoine Moser Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2003 3:05 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [CTRL] Yahoo is run by the Illuminati -Caveat Lector- Use www.alltheweb.com - A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance-not soap-boxing-please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'-with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds-is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Coalition Jets Kill 3 in retaliation for shooting down... a robot?
-Caveat Lector- I couldnt find a link on-line to this very cheery news story. If you find one, feel free to post it. When we start killing people because they destroyed un-manned drones well, where does it end? Are we supposed to accept this? Maybe Im just waking up to this, and I want someone to pinch me quick or put me back to sleep The New Warfare Or http://www.onelilgirl.com/flugnod/franc/drone.htm Peace, Franc A HREF=""www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=""Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=""ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] FW: [CTRL] FW: [turnwind] HANDS OFF VENEZUELA! sign on letter
-Caveat Lector- Just passing along info... I don't live in Venezuela, so therefore I cannot say with absolute certainty who is right on this one. Media reports seem to conflict with Independent media accounts of what's going on down there. Keep believing everything the main-stream media feeds you. -franc -Original Message- From: William Bacon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 25, 2002 8:21 AM To: Franc Tireur Subject: Re: [CTRL] FW: [turnwind] HANDS OFF VENEZUELA! sign on letter Franc, Your not bothered by the fact that Hugo Chavez is dictatorial thug just like Fidel Castro? Bill BAcon I pledge Allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America and to the REPUBLIC for which it stands, one Nation under God,indivisible,with liberty and justice for all. visit my web site at http://www.voicenet.com/~wbacon My ICQ# is 79071904 for a precise list of the powers of the Federal Government linkto: http://www.voicenet.com/~wbacon/Enumerated.html On Tue, 24 Dec 2002, Franc Tireur wrote: -Caveat Lector- FYI... -Original Message- From: james jordan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 23, 2002 1:51 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [turnwind] HANDS OFF VENEZUELA! sign on letter HANDS OFF VENEZUELA! An appeal to the international Labour Movement The situation in Venezuela is reaching a critical point. The reactionary forces, backed by conservative big business and the US embassy, are mobilising all their forces to overthrow the legally elected government of Hugo Chavez by extra-parliamentary means. The mass media have put in circulation the lie that this is a general strike supported by the workers of Venezuela against an unpopular government. There is absolutely no truth in this. In reality what we are seeing is a campaign of organised sabotage designed to destabilise the country and prepare the way for a right wing coup d'etat. The bosses have organised what amounts to a lock-out with the support of certain right wing trade union leaders. This is already the fourth time this year that they have attempted to destabilise the country by these means. It is similar to the lorry drivers' strike that the CIA organised to bring down the legally elected government of Salvador Allende in Chile. These machinations led to the bloody dictatorship of Pinochet. Now the same people want to repeat the experience in Venezuela. THEY MUST NOT BE ALLOWED TO SUCCEED! The last time they moved in this way (last April) it led to a coup in which reactionary businessmen linked up with right wing army officers to arrest the President. They talked a lot about democracy but immediately came out in their true colours, with plans to suspend the Constitution and introduce a dictatorship of the rich. The role of the USA in all this was quite clear. This great democracy - as always - refused to condemn the coup. The CIA has played, and is playing, an active role in this conspiracy, as it has in every other coup in Latin America: Chile, Argentina, Uruguay, and so on. The attempted coup last April was defeated by a spontaneous mass movement of millions of workers, unemployed, peasants, soldiers and poor people. Now once more the masses are confronting the counterrevolutionary forces in the streets of Venezuela. If the people of Venezuela were allowed to fight the counterrevolution on their own, they would easily defeat it. This was shown last April. But behind the counterrevolution stands the might of the USA and its allies in Latin America. These are intervening shamelessly in the internal affairs of Venezuela, encouraging and financing the counterrevolutionary forces. The revolutionary process opened by the election of Hugo Chavez has aroused the workers, peasants and poor people of Venezuela and given them new hope for a better future. The government has carried through a series of progressive reforms to improve the conditions of the masses. The people now understand that Venezuela is an immensely rich country with huge reserves of oil, but that the wealth of the nation is being plundered by foreign imperialists and a handful of wealthy local oligarchs who serve the interests of imperialism. They want to carry the revolution forward and put an end to this scandalous exploitation once and for all. This is the only crime of the people of Venezuela, for which the imperialists are determined to make them pay. If the Venezuelan revolution goes down to defeat, it will be a severe blow against the cause of millions of poor people throughout Latin America who are fighting for their rights. THE INTERNATIONAL LABOUR MOVEMENT MUST BE MOBILIZED IN THEIR SUPPORT. The aim of the counterrevolutionary strike is to strangle the economy, paralysing the vital oil industry and the movement of essential supplies
Re: [CTRL] Israelis Execute 11 year old Palestinian Girl Terrorist
-Caveat Lector- Hey, I happen to live there... the new Mexican Territory Nice highlands here... well above 5,000 ft... Have a nice day -franc -Original Message- From: Conspiracy Theory Research List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of flw Sent: Wednesday, December 25, 2002 12:52 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] Israelis Execute 11 year old Palestinian Girl Terrorist -Caveat Lector- As to illegal - I'm not so sure. It was British land to give. Other land was lost and gained in war. Are you going to disclaim all lands won by conquest? That's ok with me, as long as we do it across the board. I won't really miss Texas, and if they become Mexicans they can't send us any more Presidents. Again your argument makes no sense. The Palestinians do currently live and occupy the W Bank and Gaza - NOT the Israelis. Not to say the Sharonites hope to brutalize the Palestinians to the extent they will be forced to leave - I doubt that will happen but perhaps the Israelis will eventually murder them all - then all the religious wackos from Brooklyn will have plenty of room for new settlements. BTW, it appears the Mexicans are well along the process of retaking most of what they lost in 1848. Fine with me. Throughout History, no land has ever been lost by conquest - only by demographics. So called conquorers who do not literally replace the population with their own people always eventually are kicked out as your British friends will attest to. flw A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance-not soap-boxing-please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'-with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds-is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] FW: [turnwind] HANDS OFF VENEZUELA! sign on letter
-Caveat Lector- FYI... -Original Message- From: james jordan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 23, 2002 1:51 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [turnwind] HANDS OFF VENEZUELA! sign on letter HANDS OFF VENEZUELA! An appeal to the international Labour Movement The situation in Venezuela is reaching a critical point. The reactionary forces, backed by conservative big business and the US embassy, are mobilising all their forces to overthrow the legally elected government of Hugo Chavez by extra-parliamentary means. The mass media have put in circulation the lie that this is a general strike supported by the workers of Venezuela against an unpopular government. There is absolutely no truth in this. In reality what we are seeing is a campaign of organised sabotage designed to destabilise the country and prepare the way for a right wing coup d'etat. The bosses have organised what amounts to a lock-out with the support of certain right wing trade union leaders. This is already the fourth time this year that they have attempted to destabilise the country by these means. It is similar to the lorry drivers' strike that the CIA organised to bring down the legally elected government of Salvador Allende in Chile. These machinations led to the bloody dictatorship of Pinochet. Now the same people want to repeat the experience in Venezuela. THEY MUST NOT BE ALLOWED TO SUCCEED! The last time they moved in this way (last April) it led to a coup in which reactionary businessmen linked up with right wing army officers to arrest the President. They talked a lot about democracy but immediately came out in their true colours, with plans to suspend the Constitution and introduce a dictatorship of the rich. The role of the USA in all this was quite clear. This great democracy - as always - refused to condemn the coup. The CIA has played, and is playing, an active role in this conspiracy, as it has in every other coup in Latin America: Chile, Argentina, Uruguay, and so on. The attempted coup last April was defeated by a spontaneous mass movement of millions of workers, unemployed, peasants, soldiers and poor people. Now once more the masses are confronting the counterrevolutionary forces in the streets of Venezuela. If the people of Venezuela were allowed to fight the counterrevolution on their own, they would easily defeat it. This was shown last April. But behind the counterrevolution stands the might of the USA and its allies in Latin America. These are intervening shamelessly in the internal affairs of Venezuela, encouraging and financing the counterrevolutionary forces. The revolutionary process opened by the election of Hugo Chavez has aroused the workers, peasants and poor people of Venezuela and given them new hope for a better future. The government has carried through a series of progressive reforms to improve the conditions of the masses. The people now understand that Venezuela is an immensely rich country with huge reserves of oil, but that the wealth of the nation is being plundered by foreign imperialists and a handful of wealthy local oligarchs who serve the interests of imperialism. They want to carry the revolution forward and put an end to this scandalous exploitation once and for all. This is the only crime of the people of Venezuela, for which the imperialists are determined to make them pay. If the Venezuelan revolution goes down to defeat, it will be a severe blow against the cause of millions of poor people throughout Latin America who are fighting for their rights. THE INTERNATIONAL LABOUR MOVEMENT MUST BE MOBILIZED IN THEIR SUPPORT. The aim of the counterrevolutionary strike is to strangle the economy, paralysing the vital oil industry and the movement of essential supplies. They have already succeeded in causing food and petrol shortages. The intention is to cause such chaos that it will bring about a split in the tops of the armed forces and a coup by right wing army officers - as in Chile. Not satisfied with seizing the oil of Iraq, the USA also wants to get its hands on Venezuelan oil. There is constant pressure from Washington and its corrupt allies in the region to force a regime change. This shameless and insolent bullying must cease! Let the international labour movement take a firm stand against imperialism! The people of Venezuela must not feel alone in their hour of need. Let the world working class raise its voice in their support! We appeal to you to raise this matter urgently in your trade union and Labour Party branch. Send messages of support to Venezuela and protest to the US embassy about its continued interference in the internal political affairs of Venezuela. Send letters to the press and to the British government, demanding that it does not support US aggression against Venezuela. The youth must add its voice to the protest. Every youth and student organisation must
[CTRL] What's The ANSIR?
-Caveat Lector- Im still not sure myself http://www.guerrillanews.com/civil_liberties/doc919.html A HREF=""www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=""Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=""ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] What's The ANSIR?
-Caveat Lector- Im not so sure myself http://www.guerrillanews.com/civil_liberties/doc919.html A HREF=""www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=""Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=""ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
