Re: [CTRL] Mike and attacks on long standing members
Actually this no longer needs to be true. If the list was switched to Egroups where I have managed five lists for several years. I am ruthless about lack of respect and have no problems maintaining an environment that is postive and educational. It is very easy to place offenders on moderation to moderate who comes on the list, and indeed to ban with little effort by the moderators. http://www.egroups.com and best of all it is a free service with an excellent archive, search engine and additional benefits for members such as chat, calender, file storage (not archives which is different) and more. If Kris ever decides to move over there I will be glad to assist with transition and integration. Working with a list serve is too unwieldy for me. Kirimaku - Original Message - From: Jeff Russo [EMAIL PROTECTED] snip What you have witnessed recently has happened over and over and over the nearly 3 years I have been subscribed to this list. Things are quiet for a few months and then some folks come along and start a beef. I think it is inevitable that a list devoted to this subject matter will wander off topic. Even Kris sometimes posts some things that can only tenuously be categorized as 'conspiracy theory.' A lot of ideological material gets posted here (from all over the spectrum.) And while some believe that the disruptive folks are some sort of disinfo agents, I think they are just the flakes of the world looking for a place to vent (though I have no evidence to back this up.) Our beleaguered Kris has few weapons at his disposal to deal with disruption. So Mr. Gaydosh my advice is to either ignore or draw entertainment value from the occasional war of words, use the delete key often, and keep your eyes peeled for the bits of good information. Jeff Russo A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Flaming (was onelist) TAKE OFF LIST PLEASE!
SECOND REQUEST PLEASE TAKE THIS OFF LIST BETWEEN YOU AND THE MODERATOR. THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS. kirimaku - Original Message - From: Foxter To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] June and List Members,
[CTRL] simply other options
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- I also have 15 lists on ONEList/egroups for mmm18 months and what a list owners - and list members dream - it is so easy to manage with calender, links moderating function list member sub and sub sub and in all that time I have never had a drop of trouble - the customer service has been great - even with the merger that has already happened/ for $5 a month the add at the bottom which my members dont care about can be removed. Now because the search enegine function is not outstanding - I do have my posts automataically backed up over at eScribe with a link at the bottom of each members posting that directs them there if they want to do a fine topic search - so in that way the archives are backed up too! But again - I read this post in respect as just another point of considerations which can ease Kris's effort - either way - I extend my appreciation for having this list! Kirimaku - Original Message - From: Ynr Chyldz Wyld [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: "ThePiedPiper" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Do you know how much work Kris has done in keeping this list going? You make it sound as if it were JUST a case of money! No, YOU are the one making that association. I, on the otherhand, am just making a suggestion that I think would make list management easier for Kris, especially if the reason for staying on AOHell was just for the archiving feature. I run 4 email lists on Onelist, so I know the work involved in establishing, running, and keeping viable, email lists. Onelist (soon to be eGroups) makes the process a lot easier, providing archives, plus 20Mb of storage for any manner of files the owner and/or list members may wish to upload. It also gives the option to preclude file attachments, which is nice for giving somewhat of a safeguard against viruses and worms, etc. I was just suggesting that Kris check out the options again, as they are constantly evolving, sometimes in only a manner of months.. June A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Phony Oswald DONT RESEND ON LIST!
-Caveat Lector- NO GEEZE IT IS ALMOST 700KB!! I had an awful time getting my email since - it kept timing out so DONT DO THAT AGAIN! Please just send directly to those people who want it and in the future please as the list to let you know if anyone wants it to contact you person to person instead of the list! Thank you for your consideration of this matter and this list! Kirimaku - Original Message - From: Hilary A. Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 26, 1999 2:30 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Phony Oswald in Mexico -Caveat Lector- I can't open these files. Can you send the text not as an attachment, but within an email? Thanks, Hilary DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance-not soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] sexuality understanding paradigm options
-Caveat Lector- The answer is no most people are not taught how and considering the different anatomy types this lack of teaching is tragic because of the anguish it creates in people who believe they have problems when what is really going on is a clear understanding of the needs of each anatomy type. The truth is, this would accomplish a few things including increasing the safety of the issue of sexuality, because with this level of teaching comes the understanding that another is not responsible for my orgasm - so guilt, blame, shame games would be much more difficult to play as well as how people give away their power to each other. Yes since I have been taught the nuances of sexual types, styles, lover's masks, orgasm levels, etc life with all my partners is considerably more enjoyable, satisfactory, and fulfilling for all. There are spiritual sexuality teachings available out there for those who care enough to understand more. Not only did I take them but I also facilitated them and assisted with the teachings of several hundred people over many years. Where I disagree is that it should be the responsibility of the schools but what is also true is that because of the repression and the laws - at least in the US - it is never going to happen when there are children. It only happens when people are so tired of not understanding and being understood, so tired of the broken relationships where the same mistakes get made over and over again, so tired of being blamed for not being able to please another successfully and understand the difference and the choices with the styles of relationship choices, relationship agreements, intimacy levels that they become literally driven to overcome their fears and repression's to seek teachings and teachers like this out. From one woman's experience of life in the sexual teacher lane. Kirimaku - Original Message - Wolf's books espouse some controversial views. In her latest, ``Promiscuities,'' she argued among other things that schools should teach such things as masturbation because it is more realistic than abstinence and safer than sexual intercourse. It is truly sad when we have to TEACH masturbation. Does anyone here NOT know how to do this? Were you TAUGHT how? * "The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents. We live on a placid island of ignorance in the midst of seas of infinity, and it is not meant that we should voyage far. The sciences, each straining in its own direction, have hitherto harmed us little; but someday the piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas of reality, and of our frightful position therein, that we shall either go mad from the revelation or flee from the deadly light into the peace and safety of a new dark age." H.P.Lovecraft; "The Call of Cthulhu" DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance-not soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html h
Re: [CTRL] Update: Dr. Clark Released, Featured on PBS
-Caveat Lector- What Good Samaritan Act of 1998? Please quote source and context. Kirimaku [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Surviving The Millennium 101 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 1999 8:37 PM Subject: [CTRL] Update: Dr. Clark Released, Featured on PBS -Caveat Lector- This information is distributed for educational purposes only. All information is protected under the Good Samaritan Act of 1998. Please forward far and wide. Thank You. == Surviving The Millennium 101: A Crash Course with Human Destiny Website: http://www.mrr2001.com {CENSORED - UNAPPROVED - OFFLINE} Subscribe: http://millennium2012.listbot.com/ Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ == From the practical to the paranoid, the history behind the hysteria - News U Can Use 4 this the 19th day of October 1999 A.D. PBS to Feature Dr. Hulda Clark October 24th "Can Parasites and Chemicals Cause Cancer?" snip DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Hoax - INTERNET MAIL FEES COMING?!
-Caveat Lector- These are all hoaxes. Here is a website to bookmark and check against anytime someone sends a warning to you.You can enter the hoax or virus name and do a search on it. Please take the time to check all email of this type YOURSELF before passing it on to anyone. http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/hoax.html http://www.kumite.com/myths/ http://urbanlegends.miningco.com/library/blhoax.htm. http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/blhoax.htm?pid=2733cob=home Make sure these URL's dont wrap around or you need to do a cut and paste. Thank you for your concern. You may want to forward this post to lists that your are subbed to and everyone else you notified. . Kirimaku - Original Message - From: earthman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To all of you not-so-wealthy-in-America Internet users: Following is an e-mail received this week, which should be addressed as soon as you can get to it. A few lines will do, and you can send your message by e-mail (fast, immediate, and surcharge-free (unless or until these bills are passed). I have already sent my note! Angie DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Help! redirected
Here you go Phil - the list is not able to help you, you need to work through the list serv (information below to resolve problems). Also it is good to include your email address under your name - not every list provides the members email information and I was unable to lift your address from the reply to hyperlink so am forced to post this to the list in response Kiri - Original Message - From: L-Soft list server at America Online (1.8d) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Cynthia Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 20, 1999 8:44 AM Subject: Re: help helpLISTSERV(R) version 1.8d - most commonly used commandsINFO topic|listname Order documentation (plain text files)SUBscribe listname full name Subscribe to a listSIGNOFF listname Sign off from a listSIGNOFF * (NETWIDE - from all lists on all serversQuery listname Query your subscription optionsSearch listname keyword... Search list archivesSET listname options Update your subscription optionsINDex listname Order a list of LISTSERV filesGET filename filetype Order a file from LISTSERVThere are more commands; send an INFO REFCARD command for a comprehensivereference card, or just INFO for a list of available documentation files.If you prefer, you can use LISTSERV through its web interface athttp://listserv.aol.com/cgi-bin/wa (the full manuals can also be browsedonline at this URL).This server is managed by:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Summary of resource utilization---CPU time: 0.000 secOverhead CPU: 0.010 secCPU model: 9000/889Job origin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Phil Chapman To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 20, 1999 4:58 AM Subject: [CTRL] Help! Dogonit! You guys did this to me a few days ago, too! Didn'tanswer my e-mails requesting help and forced me to reregister using another name (since I had no idea what else could be wrong then, either). This time, however, I'm getting a "cookies" problem screen. I don't know what to do about it as I haven't changed anything and I was posting and scooting around ok just last night. So what's up already? Please help resolve this as I'm at a critical point following my meager investments and need to stay in touch and connected with the thread I'm following. Thanks, Phil Chapman, "Chappamano", Password "Burr" PS Going out now to play "dogball", i. e. very bad tennis. Sure hope I can post (and scoot around) when I get back.
Re: [CTRL] Diana Reversal
-Caveat Lector- Sounds to me like "The adults teach the children to kill" Kirimaku -Original Message- This is a reversal from a lady who used to work for Princess Diana, talking about her children. I am having a hard time deciphering what it says. ;^);^);^) http://www.anomalous-images.com/dianarev_3.ram Regards, Steve Steve Wingate DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Elizabeth Dole May Run For President
-Caveat Lector- Oh, yes! Heaven forbid that we should have anyone in the white house with an actual track record of productivity and success!!! She came in to the ARC at a time the organization was going down the tubes because of the blood services fiasco. Her first year's salary was given back to the organization. She has spent less then 25 percent of her time in that cushy office. In the 8 years she was there, her specific efforts generated 187 million dollar turn around of donations to an organization responsible for providing food, clothing, shelter, medical supplies to people who just lost everything they owned for the first stage of disaster response. I had to laugh because CNN commentators were saying how she couldn't have much of a chance because she has no political connections or fundraising potential. My God, they dont have a clue how much grass roots she already has behind her across the united state. also if one is interested in facts. Take a look at the Corporate and Individual donors that have contributed - NOT to the local chapter but the NATIONAL organization out of washington D.C. Have you seen the sponsors behind the national programs? None of these were there before her efforts. I invite you to call the national Red Cross fund raising office and ask them to send you the article that was written about the break down of her salary against the specific donor she personally brought in. Her yearly revenue comes to about 12,000 dollars. Finally, I cant wait to see her up against her opponents who only see a southern magnolia. I guarantee that she will NEVER resort to mud slinging, AND I have see her rip someone's that out and keep moving - and the people still think they are breathing because she never skipped a beat of sweetness and genteelism. There is absolute cold steel in that magnolia!! From one woman's experience of life - Kirimaku -Original Message- -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 1/3/99 7:45:07 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Elizabeth Dole is planning to step aside as president of the American Red Cross in a step her political supporters hope will lead to her running for president Hey, anybody who can sit in a big office at the Red Cross should make a good Republican president. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om