Re: [CTRL] Mike and attacks on long standing members

2000-05-01 Thread Kirimaku

Actually this no longer needs to be true.
If the list was switched to Egroups where I have managed
five lists for several years.

I am ruthless about lack of respect and have no problems
maintaining an environment
that is postive and educational.   It is very easy to place
offenders on moderation to moderate who comes on the list,
and indeed to ban with little effort by the moderators.
http://www.egroups.com
and best of all it is a free service with an excellent
archive, search engine  and additional benefits for members
such as chat, calender, file storage (not archives which is
different) and more.
If Kris ever decides to move over there I will be glad to
assist with transition and integration.
Working with a list serve is too unwieldy for me.
Kirimaku

- Original Message -
From: Jeff Russo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
snip
 What you have witnessed recently has happened over and
over and over the nearly
 3 years I have been subscribed to this list. Things are
quiet for a few months
 and then some folks come along and start a beef.

 I think it is inevitable that a list devoted to this
subject matter will wander
 off topic. Even Kris sometimes posts some things that can
only tenuously be
 categorized as 'conspiracy theory.' A lot of ideological
material gets posted
 here (from all over the spectrum.) And while some believe
that the disruptive
 folks are some sort of disinfo agents, I think they are
just the flakes of the
 world looking for a place to vent (though I have no
evidence to back this up.)

 Our beleaguered Kris has few weapons at his disposal to
deal with disruption.
 So Mr. Gaydosh my advice is to either ignore or draw
entertainment value from
 the occasional war of words, use the delete key often, and
keep your eyes
 peeled for the bits of good information. Jeff Russo

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[CTRL] Flaming (was onelist) TAKE OFF LIST PLEASE!

2000-03-28 Thread Kirimaku



SECOND 
REQUEST
PLEASE TAKE THIS OFF 
LIST BETWEEN YOU AND THE MODERATOR.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR 
ATTENTION TO THIS.
kirimaku

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Foxter 
  
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  June and List 
  Members,
  


[CTRL] simply other options

2000-03-26 Thread Kirimaku

-Caveat Lector-   A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"
/A -Cui Bono?-

I also have 15 lists on ONEList/egroups for mmm18 months and
what a list owners - and list members dream - it is so easy
to manage with calender, links moderating function list
member sub and sub sub and in all that time I have never had
a drop of trouble - the customer service has been great -
even with the merger that has already happened/

for $5 a month the add at the bottom which my members dont
care about can be removed.

Now because the search enegine function is not outstanding -
I do have my posts automataically backed up over at eScribe
with a link at the bottom of each members posting that
directs them there if they want to do a fine topic search -
so in that way the archives are backed up too!

But again - I read this post in respect as just another
point of considerations which can  ease Kris's effort -
either way - I extend my appreciation for having this list!

Kirimaku

- Original Message -
From: Ynr Chyldz Wyld [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 From: "ThePiedPiper" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Do you know how much work Kris has done
  in keeping this list going?  You make it
  sound as if it were JUST a case of money!

 No, YOU are the one making that association.

 I, on the otherhand, am just making a suggestion that I
think
 would make list management easier for Kris, especially if
the
 reason for staying on AOHell was just for the archiving
feature.

 I run 4 email lists on Onelist, so I know the work
involved in
 establishing, running, and keeping viable, email lists.
Onelist
 (soon to be eGroups) makes the process a lot easier,
providing
 archives, plus 20Mb of storage for any manner of files the
 owner and/or list members may wish to upload.  It also
gives the
 option to preclude file attachments, which is nice for
giving
 somewhat of a safeguard against viruses and worms, etc.

 I was just suggesting that Kris check out the options
again, as
 they are constantly evolving, sometimes in only a manner
of
 months.. June

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[CTRL] Phony Oswald DONT RESEND ON LIST!

1999-11-26 Thread Kirimaku

 -Caveat Lector-

NO GEEZE IT IS ALMOST 700KB!!

I had an awful time getting my email since - it kept timing out so
DONT DO THAT AGAIN!

Please just send directly to those people who want it and in the future
please as the list to let you know if anyone wants it  to contact you
person to person instead of the list!

Thank you for your consideration of this matter and this list!
Kirimaku

- Original Message -
From: Hilary A. Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, November 26, 1999 2:30 PM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] Phony Oswald in Mexico


-Caveat Lector-

I can't open these files.  Can you send the text not as an attachment,
but
within an email?

Thanks,

Hilary

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Re: [CTRL] sexuality understanding paradigm options

1999-11-01 Thread Kirimaku

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The answer is no most people are not taught how and considering the
different anatomy types this lack of teaching is tragic because of the
anguish it creates in people who believe they have problems when what is
really going on is a clear understanding of the needs of each anatomy
type.

The truth is, this would accomplish a few things including increasing
the safety of the issue of sexuality, because with this level of
teaching comes the understanding that another is not responsible for my
orgasm - so guilt, blame, shame games would be much more difficult to
play as well as how people give away their power to each other.

Yes since I have been taught the nuances of sexual types, styles,
lover's masks, orgasm levels, etc life with all my partners is
considerably more enjoyable, satisfactory, and fulfilling for all.
There are spiritual sexuality teachings available out there for those
who care enough to understand more.  Not only did I take them but I also
facilitated them and assisted with the teachings of several hundred
people over many years.  Where I disagree is that it should be the
responsibility of the schools but what is also true is that because of
the repression and the laws  - at least in the US - it is never going to
happen when there are children.

It only happens when people are so tired of not understanding and being
understood, so tired of the broken relationships where the same mistakes
get made over and over again, so tired of being blamed for not being
able to please another successfully and understand the difference and
the choices with the styles of relationship choices, relationship
agreements, intimacy levels that they become literally driven to
overcome their fears and repression's to seek teachings and teachers
like this out.

From one woman's experience of life in the sexual teacher lane.
Kirimaku

- Original Message -
 Wolf's books espouse some controversial views. In her latest,
  ``Promiscuities,'' she argued among other things that schools should
teach
  such things as masturbation because it is more realistic than
abstinence
and
  safer than sexual intercourse.


It is truly sad when we have to TEACH masturbation.  Does anyone here
NOT
know how to do this?  Were you TAUGHT how?


*

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human
mind to correlate all its contents.
  We live on a placid island of ignorance in the midst of seas of
infinity,
and it is not meant that we should
  voyage far.  The sciences, each straining in its own direction, have
hitherto harmed us little; but someday
  the piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such
terrifying
vistas of reality, and of our
  frightful position therein, that we shall either go mad from the
revelation
or flee from the deadly light into the
  peace and safety of a new dark age."  H.P.Lovecraft; "The Call of
Cthulhu"

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Re: [CTRL] Update: Dr. Clark Released, Featured on PBS

1999-10-20 Thread Kirimaku

 -Caveat Lector-

What Good Samaritan Act of 1998?

Please quote source and context.
Kirimaku
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- Original Message -
From: Surviving The Millennium 101 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 1999 8:37 PM
Subject: [CTRL] Update: Dr. Clark Released, Featured on PBS


 -Caveat Lector-

 This information is distributed for educational purposes only.
 All information is protected under the Good Samaritan Act of 1998.
 Please forward far and wide. Thank You.

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 From the practical to the paranoid, the history behind the hysteria -
 News U Can Use 4 this the 19th day of October  1999 A.D.

 
 PBS to Feature Dr. Hulda Clark October 24th
 "Can Parasites and Chemicals Cause Cancer?"
 
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Re: [CTRL] Hoax - INTERNET MAIL FEES COMING?!

1999-10-10 Thread Kirimaku

 -Caveat Lector-

These are all hoaxes.  Here is a website to bookmark and
check against anytime someone sends a warning to you.You can
enter the  hoax or virus name and do a search on it.

Please take the time to check all email of this type YOURSELF
before passing it on to anyone.

http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/hoax.html

http://www.kumite.com/myths/

http://urbanlegends.miningco.com/library/blhoax.htm.

http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/blhoax.htm?pid=2733cob=home


Make sure these URL's dont wrap around or you need to do a
cut and paste.
Thank you for your concern.  You  may want to
forward this post to  lists that your are subbed to and
everyone else you notified.
.
Kirimaku

- Original Message -
From: earthman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To all of you not-so-wealthy-in-America Internet users:
 Following is an e-mail received this week, which should be addressed
as
 soon
 as you can get to it. A few lines will do, and you can send your
message
 by
 e-mail (fast, immediate, and surcharge-free (unless or until these
bills
 are
 passed). I have already sent my note!
 Angie

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Re: [CTRL] Help! redirected

1999-09-20 Thread Kirimaku




Here you go Phil - the list is not able to help you, you need to work 
through the list serv
(information below to resolve problems). Also it is good to include 
your email address under your name - not every list provides the members email 
information and I was unable to lift your address from the reply to hyperlink so 
am forced to post this to the list in response
Kiri

- Original Message - 
From: L-Soft list server at America Online (1.8d) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Cynthia Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 20, 1999 8:44 AM
Subject: Re: help
 helpLISTSERV(R) version 1.8d - most commonly used 
commandsINFO 
topic|listname Order documentation 
(plain text files)SUBscribe listname full name Subscribe 
to a listSIGNOFF 
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Sign off from a listSIGNOFF * 
(NETWIDE 
- from all lists on all serversQuery 
listname 
Query your subscription optionsSearch listname 
keyword... Search list 
archivesSET listname 
options Update your subscription 
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  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Phil Chapman 
  
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Monday, September 20, 1999 4:58 
  AM
  Subject: [CTRL] Help!
  
  Dogonit! You guys did this to me a few days 
  ago, too! Didn'tanswer my e-mails requesting help and forced me to 
  reregister using another name (since I had no idea what else could be wrong 
  then, either). This time, however, I'm getting a "cookies" problem 
  screen. I don't know what to do about it as I haven't changed anything 
  and I was posting and scooting around ok just last night. So what's up 
  already? Please help resolve this as I'm at a critical point following 
  my meager investments and need to stay in touch and connected with the thread 
  I'm following.
  
  Thanks, Phil Chapman, "Chappamano", Password 
  "Burr"
  
  PS Going out now to play "dogball", i. e. 
  very bad tennis. Sure hope I can post (and scoot around) when I 
  get back.


Re: [CTRL] Diana Reversal

1999-05-21 Thread Kirimaku

 -Caveat Lector-

Sounds to me like
"The adults teach the children to kill"
Kirimaku

 -Original Message-

 This is a reversal from a lady who used to work for Princess Diana,
 talking about her children. I am having a hard time deciphering what it
 says.
   ;^);^);^)

http://www.anomalous-images.com/dianarev_3.ram

Regards,
Steve


Steve Wingate

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Re: [CTRL] Elizabeth Dole May Run For President

1999-01-06 Thread Kirimaku

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Oh, yes!  Heaven forbid that we should have anyone in
the white house with an actual track record of
productivity and success!!!

She came in to the ARC at a time the organization was
going down the tubes because of the blood services
fiasco.  Her first year's salary was given back to the
organization.  She has spent less then 25 percent of her
time in that cushy office.  In the 8 years she was
there, her specific efforts generated 187 million dollar
turn around of donations to an organization responsible
for providing food, clothing, shelter, medical supplies
to people who just lost everything they owned for the
first stage of disaster response.

I had to laugh because CNN commentators were saying how
she couldn't have much of a chance because she has no
political connections or fundraising potential.
My God, they dont have a clue how much grass roots she
already has behind her across the united state.  also if
one is interested in facts.  Take a look at the
Corporate and Individual donors that have contributed -
NOT to the local chapter but the NATIONAL organization
out of washington D.C.  Have you seen the sponsors
behind the national programs?  None of these were there
before her efforts.  I invite you to call the national
Red Cross fund raising office and ask them to send you
the article that was written about the break down of her
salary against the specific donor she personally brought
in.  Her yearly revenue comes to about 12,000 dollars.

Finally, I cant wait to see her up against her opponents
who only see a southern magnolia.  I guarantee that she
will NEVER resort to mud slinging, AND I have see her
rip someone's that out and keep moving - and the people
still think they are breathing because she never skipped
a beat of sweetness and genteelism.  There is absolute
cold steel in that magnolia!!
From one woman's experience of life -
Kirimaku

-Original Message-
 -Caveat Lector-

In a message dated 1/3/99 7:45:07 PM Eastern
Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Elizabeth Dole is planning to step aside as
president of the American Red
 Cross in a step her political supporters
hope will lead to her running for
 president

Hey, anybody who can sit in a big office at
the Red Cross should make a good
Republican president.

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