Re: [CTRL] Why GUNS are here to stay.

1999-05-30 Thread Liz Schumacher

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without the 2nd amendment, the first is useless, and unenforceable
josh, u may know everything about everything, but when you grow up,  you just
may feel differently--but maybe not--but who gives a wild rip anyhow?
liz

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Re: [CTRL] Why GUNS are here to stay.2/2

1999-05-30 Thread Liz Schumacher

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remember the "Luby's" massacre  a few years ago?? one of the women survivors
had been carrying till THAT DAY--she watched her mom and dad get shot in the
head. if she had been carrying, that WOULD NOT have happened
liz

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Re: [CTRL] [Fwd: Post This]

1999-05-30 Thread Liz Schumacher

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jesus christos!!!
u folks certainly do get mad at each other, dont you?
tell me, is it worth it? id like to get that mad too, but i guess ive just
run out of steam. You folks do make a good read tho,and you have  such
passionate views,-- i admire that, and
thank you, for all that, and all the good info you share with the list.
liz
please dont kill me

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Re: [CTRL] [Fwd: Post This]

1999-05-30 Thread Liz Schumacher

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:) colleen, me irish(?) lass
liz

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Re: [CTRL] Skeptic News - Monday #1

1999-05-02 Thread Liz Schumacher

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yeah, and hey rick??
this voodoo stuff is brought over here--in nursing homes, etc-
this massive increase in immigrant aides is-a really bad problem here, and
will only get worse
liz

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[CTRL] Fwd: Re your spokesperson

1999-04-30 Thread Liz Schumacher





YOU STAND BY what rosie odonnell said--and so does your company? the ENTIRE
national company? So when Rosie says, hey, all people who own guns should go
to prison---k-mart goes along with that??
please respond!! do you know what is at stake here??

liz




Re: [CTRL] Trenchcoat

1999-04-23 Thread Liz Schumacher

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so right, june and all
being different is no treat in school
being part indian, and dark, i took my share of crappola.(this was way back
in the so-called dark ages of the 50s)
was made to feel ashamed at times-and had fantasies-not of killing, but of
being big enough to knock these kids around(some teachers too) never did
knock anyone around, but i do remember wanting to.  Thought things were so
different now?? i know in the school i work in, if they catch someone in a
mean remark-they go after them-(this is grade school) they dont let them get
away with it. Guess they lax up by highschool?
(not that ANY amount of teasing/harrassing  justifies what they did)
liz
liz

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Re: [CTRL] Trenchcoat

1999-04-23 Thread Liz Schumacher

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June is right kiddo-
 even at funerals, some people start to laff- its a nervous reaction-
you are obviously a good person and a deep thinker-and the latter means u are
in the minority(maybe even the former)
have hope and keep being as kind as u are-and pass it along when u can!
liz

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Re: [CTRL] Thomas on Bell redux

1999-04-23 Thread Liz Schumacher

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dear

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Re: [CTRL] French toast mafia?

1999-04-23 Thread Liz Schumacher

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thats fine, americans can quit going to europe or having dealings with them
and they will collapse and be asking for hershey bars again in about 2 months

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Re: [CTRL] KNOW YOUR CLAN CHIEF . . .

1999-04-23 Thread Liz Schumacher

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Stewart ,here,- may all ye Campbells roast in hades

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Re: [CTRL] KNOW YOUR CLAN CHIEF . . .

1999-04-23 Thread Liz Schumacher

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sorry, meant Stuart
whoops!

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Re: [CTRL] Trenchcoat

1999-04-20 Thread Liz Schumacher

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sorry, i dont see a' military state" that caused the tradegy in CO-the
military has been cut, and swiped away for years
rather i blame the fact that no one raises our kids anymore
they raise themselves
and they are not doing too well
liz

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Re: [CTRL] The Interview

1999-04-18 Thread Liz Schumacher

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"the most basic retard in the military"
are these the retards who die for u and me andrew?
u mean those retards?
liz

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Re: [CTRL] The Interview

1999-04-17 Thread Liz Schumacher

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Gotta agree with u Jim the kids here who are taught gun safety and go to the
classes-know what a gun can do and are less likely to use them in anger
liz

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Re: [CTRL] Autism up 273% in 10 years in Calif. (fwd)

1999-04-16 Thread Liz Schumacher

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i would really look into who?what organization is doing the diagnosis. Govt
agencies look to survival.
the more you have, the longer you last- then you get to retire and its
someone elses problem
(no foolin)
liz

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Re: [CTRL] The World's Wickedest Women - Elizabeth Bathory

1999-04-14 Thread Liz Schumacher

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Dear kris
wasnt there a roger corman movie in the 60s made about Bathory?
also-wasnt there a male equivalent called Gilles de Rais or something like
that? (tho i believe he lived in an earlier time)
?
liz

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Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Re: Michael Aquino Vs. Adventures Unlimited

1999-04-10 Thread Liz Schumacher

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yecch

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Re: [CTRL] O.J. ???

1999-04-03 Thread Liz Schumacher

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i thought sybil leek was dead
u know--the same place nicole, goldman, etc are

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Re: [CTRL] Clinton bombs Christians during Holy Week ?

1999-04-02 Thread Liz Schumacher

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I know that clinton was REAL careful not to bomb the muslim countries during
Ramadan--but i think its because of political correctness, more than any
masonic-whatever conspiracy--
lets face it--its ok to mash people on a christian holyday, because they are
the "bad guys" of the world--according to PC mindsets--and , its very PC
also, to blame the christians for all the ills of the world--so why honor
their holy days?Its the "all christian white men are bad" syndrome--and we
are spoon fed this stuff from grade school up- Yet, not even the monstrous
Taliban  can be touched during their high holy days--go figger
liz

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Re: [CTRL] O.J. ???

1999-04-02 Thread Liz Schumacher

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THEN, he took a quart of OJ's blood and dumped it all over the Brown place.
yeah, sure
liz

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Re: [CTRL] O.J. ???

1999-04-02 Thread Liz Schumacher

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OJ did it

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Re: [CTRL] ilkmates

1999-03-31 Thread Liz Schumacher

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Mother Jones, that was hilarious, and sounds like u are also a member of the
"sandwich generation", what with elderly adults to care for plus grown kids!
liz

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Re: [CTRL] [[CTRL] What's Really Causing Gulf War Illness?]

1999-03-30 Thread Liz Schumacher

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weve discussed fibromyalgia on the abinfo list too, amelia---they may have
some good info for u
liz

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Re: [CTRL] Who's The Trained Pigs?

1999-03-29 Thread Liz Schumacher

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i believe its from the book"Unlimited Access" the former agent, who wrote it,
was following chelsea around and she started bad-mouthing him- called him a
trained pig--he said, look its my job to do this, and i dont take any mouth
from little kids--some thing like that--then chelsea said--well, thats what my
mom and dad call all you guys
liz

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Re: [CTRL] Kevorkian News

1999-03-28 Thread Liz Schumacher

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thanks bill--jeese i hate kevorkian and what he stands for--yet, i totally
agree that a person who wants to die, and is suffering needless pain should be
able to--but not from a freak like kevorkian--lets get this matter
straightened out-once and for all-so we dont need the media freaks like dr k
in the future
liz

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Re: [CTRL] Kevorkian News

1999-03-28 Thread Liz Schumacher

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FINE,"Dr" erebus, have YOU researched dr jack??? did YOU know he was NEVER
a doctor who took care of people, but only a doctor who looked at cadavers??
and only part time at that?
 Did he bring kids into the world--EVER??? NO
DID he take care of young married couples_NO
Was he EVER a General Practitioner-NO
Was he ever a specialist?? maybe in oncology? gynocology?? NO
He LOOKED AT DEAD BODIES ON A SLAB--for his WHOLE medical
career!!!-which by the way --was--on and off.--are people begging dr
jack to kill them??YES!! They can beg YOU, they can beg ME ,too, they can
beg your uncle arthur's blind CAT-- still dont make it right, "DR" erebus,
baby-- look-- folks have a right to die, but not this way , man, NOT under
the hormones of a man who is in LOVE with what he does. THINK ABOUT IT
liz

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Re: [CTRL] Kevorkian News

1999-03-28 Thread Liz Schumacher

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amelia, it goes on every day. and its done under drs orders, and only to the
termial in deep pain
liz

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Re: [CTRL] Kevorkian News

1999-03-28 Thread Liz Schumacher

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look DIVINE, i fail to see how you could take my response as "hateful" i dont
know where u are coming from. All I know is JACK KEVORKIAN is a serial killer,
in my book. because--he LOVES what he does-if u cant see that, im sorry. in no
way was i trying to be "hateful"--i just DONT LIKE serial killers
liz

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Re: [CTRL] Kevorkian News

1999-03-28 Thread Liz Schumacher

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sorry if i jumped on u divine-- didnt mean to. im just so p-oed at the new
media darlings, who are SUCH a danger, like our dear dr jack
liz

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Re: [CTRL] Kevorkian News

1999-03-28 Thread Liz Schumacher

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hello amelia,
 if you are really interested in Y2k items,and if you by any chance happen to
be interested in fortean phenomenon, i belong to an artbell info list, that
has some very nice, and very informative folks.
liz
ps sorry if i camr on too strong about dr jack, im just so sick of him and his
ilk
liz

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Re: [CTRL] Kevorkian News

1999-03-27 Thread Liz Schumacher

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what do you tell the relatives of the 5 people who suffered from depression,
who had NO terminal illness, that Dr Jack disposed of?
Dr Jack was a sometime-pathologist, NEVER a "people doctor"
he seems to have developed an obsession with death along with the onset of old
age
.Nurses, under Drs orders, every day of the week, jack up the amt of morphine
in a terminal patients IV-- they jack it up, in the end, knowing it causes
respiratory depression--unlike Dr. Jack, they have spent many yrs dealing with
PEOPLE, not in a cold pathology lab, but working with the families--and--they
dont seek fame, they dont paint strange and shizo drawings, they dont want to
be on the cover of Time-Dr Jack deserves what he gets--Sorry!  Drs can be
serial killers too!

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Re: [CTRL] 1st in 25yrs, Interview, antidote to human problems, Sr

1999-03-18 Thread Liz Schumacher

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it mayhaps took him 25 yrs to clear the grease from his ears why is baba loo
or whatever any different from anyone else that wants your money, your heart,
your mind and your soul?
spare me-- i can deal with the TBN monstrosities, but do we really need to
import them too??

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Re: [CTRL] Remains Found beneath former home of Benjamin Franklin

1999-03-17 Thread Liz Schumacher

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i think it was pretty common at the time to use whatever bodies were available
for dissection-research,and since it was illegal, they used whatever means
they could to dispose of the cadavers. I dont think this means Ben was a
serial killer.
  Interesting article tho, and certainly more grist for the mill
liz

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Re: [CTRL] Rapist Bill and Hitlery Separating?

1999-03-12 Thread Liz Schumacher

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these two strange individuals have always had an"open marriage"- they just
think theyre too advanced to share this fact with us poor hicks
liz

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Re: [CTRL] Book Review: Genesis of the Grail Kings

1999-03-09 Thread Liz Schumacher

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Good Luck Andrew!
???
liz

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Re: [CTRL] Another 55 cents a Pack

1999-02-25 Thread Liz Schumacher

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Kat, u lil bugger, how are u?
liz

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Re: [CTRL] Another 55 cents a Pack

1999-02-25 Thread Liz Schumacher

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dear Kat
in this list, when u hit reply to, or reply to all, doesnt matter, goes to the
whole list, unlike the artbellinfo list. I dont post much, theres some flaming
here, and indeed , i ,with my joking nature, may have been guilty of that(if
so, Andrew, I apologise-about the Camilla/morphing/ Rotweiler crack, as i do
believe  you are in some distress) But Kat , i guarrantee u will have a good
time here and many sites to explore!!
liz

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Re: [CTRL] WHY REPTILES EAT women who--

1999-02-23 Thread Liz Schumacher

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this explains why His Royal Hi, Chuck, has this  great flaming desire to be a
tampon!
 Does this mean that Camilla belongs to a secret group that morphs into
Rottweilers  ?

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Re: [CTRL] suppression in tokyo of chinese massacre

1999-02-23 Thread Liz Schumacher

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theres a book called rape of nanking by iris chang thats heavily documented,
and refers to ballards book  as well . Changs book is very good

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Re: [CTRL] DRUDGE-REPORT-URGENT 02/19/99

1999-02-20 Thread Liz Schumacher

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Except this wasnt a highschool girfriend-Bubba was a Govt official when this
happened--but youre right, basically it was an innocent high-school"hi-jinks"
kind of rape-never mind the guy is WAY beyond high school age--hey, whats a
lil' gropping between friends, right?Jim Jones: wherever you are in hell, eat
your heart out--you may have had 900 slavish followers willing to sip your
spiked kool-aid, but bud bill has millions willing to forgive him ANYTHING

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Re: [CTRL] Calling all helpless hippies in Oakland

1999-02-20 Thread Liz Schumacher

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dear andrew
ill gladly pay ye tewsday fer a hamburger today
Robert Burns
Or was it Wimpy?
Dont worry overmuch about the "helpless" hippies--anywhere
some folks grow up, some dont.

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Re: [CTRL] WHAT'S REALLY GOING ON IN HOLLYWOOD

1999-02-20 Thread Liz Schumacher

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and the current"superman"(on TV) is half chinese, and you are right, the list
goes on and on,hector elizondo in "chicago hope" is the administrator,,good
old "cheech" is still going strong in Nash Bridges,one of the best selling
books around is The Rape of Nanking, by a chinese author,--look , for a
country that still has a white-bread majority, we do pretty good.
quote me some statistics from another country-oh i forgot--no other nation
lets as many "minorities" in as we do--whoops!  forgot that lil' point!

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Re: [CTRL] June: Calling all hippies

1999-02-19 Thread Liz Schumacher

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"Can you read,June?"
yet another example of "lets be civil"

Can you be civil to each other??

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[CTRL] Re CTRL A British View of Clinton written by the World.

1999-02-13 Thread Liz Schumacher

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dear Andrew:
im not a clinton fan by any means, but you must be smokin' some POWERFUL
purple heather over there in Scotland


(any recipes?)

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[CTRL] Re Anglo Aggitation

1999-02-13 Thread Liz Schumacher

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When the lend-lease ended, the Marshall Plan started-geese, i guess we owe the
whole world everything, huh? why dont we just, all 300 million of us, just
slit out collective throats cuz the euros have a supposed beef against us?
what OTHER country wouldve supported its former enemies(and friends) as long
as we did?The Anglos can agitate to their hearts content.
ill throw in a few sweaters, just to mix things a bit.(got a maytag)

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Re: [CTRL] FW: A Man and His Frog

1999-02-10 Thread Liz Schumacher

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its always amazed me that Bill can treat women like ash trays and still have
the Fem support he does.

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[CTRL] phone calls-

1999-02-10 Thread Liz Schumacher

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if u missed it the first time, all u need for free(only cost is your monthly
fee to your server) long distance calls is a computer with a sound card,and
modem, speakers, a microphone and FREE software from www.tribal.com  --
you sound like you are on a speaker phone, but it is free.
pass it on!(as you will be calling to the receivers phone, only YOU need this
stuff)-beat the system!

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[CTRL] were pretty lucky here, eh?

1999-02-07 Thread Liz Schumacher

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howard--you may have a point here, insofar as ,when the'mob rules" the
individual is indeed relegated to a zero point. this is true in any far-
left/far- right society. I really think, however, that we on the north
american continent are pretty lucky  in that we are not engaged in a daily
life/death struggle against our 'oppressors'-from whatever side they may come-
if we have a struggle at all,its rather a day to day fight, and  it's verbally
or on paper,and on many matters, it may seem to be rather picayune-just ask
the folks from Koslovo, or Ruwanda-Burundi-or just about anywhere- they dont
have the options we do, to toss our guts out for discussion/argument -they
just toss out their guts.Period-  (usually after theyve been shot down in the
streets)
liz

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Re: [CTRL] Scottish Biohazard Researcher Dies Mysteriously

1999-02-07 Thread Liz Schumacher

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in china its called 'night soil'
the raspberry /salmonella outbreak last fall was due to the use of human waste
as fertilizer in mexican raspberry crops.
The use of feces of carnivores/omnivores is frowned upon for veggie/fruit
growing. Cow poop= good, Bear poop=bad
l

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Re: [CTRL] Mass Poisoning? An UPDATE

1999-02-05 Thread Liz Schumacher

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June, youd be surprised how many nurses refuse the hepatitis
vaccine they are supposed to get before they start working.

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Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Religion, sex, drugs and mind control

1999-02-05 Thread Liz Schumacher

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in relation, please read "The Eleventh Plague" by leonard A. Cole and" The
search for The Manchurian Candidate" by John Marks
liz

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[CTRL] Fwd: Re: [freedomfight] Fwd: [CTRL] Fwd: Religion, sex, drugs and mind contro

1999-02-05 Thread Liz Schumacher

can anyone help this fella?



Where can I get this tape from this Carrie Drake person?  Does anyone know
her email address?

- Bob

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After having read "the eleventh plague" by leonard cole. and "the search
for
the manchurian candidate" by john marks, i m thinking there really is
something to this
liz



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Re: [CTRL] Anyone Know Latin?

1999-02-03 Thread Liz Schumacher

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sorry-all i know is old songs from the Gregorian Hymnal
and-Quo Vadis?(where you goin,eh?)
lizbet

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