Re: [CTRL] Deepdudes use of divisive headlines etc,
-Caveat Lector- Kris wrote: "Yo deepdude is there a particular reason whilst you keep us here at CTRL informed about various social phobias that have a tendency to polarize people and promote hate and ignorance in your headlines?" I appreciate Peter's posts. People often polarize themselves with their own hate and ignorance. Many of them consider opposing viewpoints "hate and ignorance" as well. Go get 'em Bard. Robert Paul DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Proud to be an American ?
-Caveat Lector- Tim wrote: "Thank You "Workers of Iniquity"! Proud to be an American? I don't think so," It's sad, Tim, many on this List will have no idea what you're talking about. They can see a Conspiracy but not their responsibility for the loss of their Liberty. Robert Paul. Ohio state DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Marine who refused anthrax vaccine convicted of disobedience
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Re: [CTRL] War on Poverty Yields Few Victories
-Caveat Lector- I wrote: "anarchy leads to statism any way." To which Nessie wrote: "This is like saying gravity lead to weightlessness." In a free fall one IS weightless. What I meant was...without government criminal gangs come to power and later after one gang conquers the rest they become the "government". DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] War on Poverty Yields Few Victories
-Caveat Lector- Nessie wrote: "Do you personally need the gun and the club to keep you in line?" No, we need the gun and the club to keep criminals in line. All government means is organized defense. We have organized food production so that one doesn't have to grow one's own food, otherwise we'd be compelled to defend ourselves without any objectivity. "Or do you behave like a decent human being because that's what you are?" Yes and even if every one did behave as such we'd still need an organized defense agency if only to arbitrate honest disagreements. We both know that crime will always be with us, though. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] War on Poverty Yields Few Victories
-Caveat Lector- Joshua2 wrote: "Instead of a war on poverty, we should declare war on big business." I agree if you mean corporate business" "The state is not the problem. Capitalism and businessmen are the problem." The State creates the problem by giving privileges to big business. The word capitalism means many things to many people...if you mean mercantilism you're right. Robert Paul DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] War on Poverty Yields Few Victories
-Caveat Lector- William Hugh Tunstall wrote: "If there is not a massive restructuring, we're going to see a repeat of the kind of social unrest we saw back in the sixties..." That's what we need except most will argue for more statism, the very poison that creates poverty. Robert Paul DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] War on Poverty Yields Few Victories
-Caveat Lector- Piper wrote: "To imply that they are Capitalist. The only thing that some of those politicians have capitalized on is other peoples thoughts and work." Most people have no idea what capitalism is...that ideology has been defined mostly by it's enemies and incompetent supporters. I'd rather use the word free enterprisea separation of state and economics with privileges for none. With un-alienable rights for all instead of regulatable, taxable privileges and licenses. Robert Paul DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] War on Poverty Yields Few Victories
-Caveat Lector- Bob Stokes wrote: "When you look even further the bankers control the Corporations with their money." This is true, but... "Convert the Federal Reserve from a private institution to a bank for the United States" To give that bank a state sanctioned monopoly would still leave power in the hands of the Plutocracy. "and the Corporations will be put in their place" We can put them in their place by ending limited liability and other privileges. "Then, make it illegal for lawyers to hold office" There would be no problem with "liars" holding office if you took away their monopoly and excluded them from legislative or executive office. "the shares will go to the workers," The shares should go to the investors not to political beneficiaries. "eliminate the IRS and have a flat 10% sales tax on everything" Let's just eliminate the IRS and cut government down to size. The constitution provides for all the necessary taxation to support proper government. Robert Paul DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] War on Poverty Yields Few Victories
-Caveat Lector- Nessie wrote: "Absolutely. But let's think long, hard, and above all realistically about how we dismantle them." Yes, it won't be easy; I don't think that dismantling the welfare-warfare State can be done collectively.There are things that one can do individually, we need to encourage each other in that direction. "let's keep in mind that on a world in as sorry a state as ours is in it is not possible to disarm unless all forces do it together." That'll never happen, the Plutocrats that orchestrate these "forces" won't stop until They take the World or until We stop financing them. "America in particular must take care because the predatory transnational capitalists based here" Yes, this is true. The Ugly American is the mask the Plutocrats wear to rape the World. "There are no national solutions to global problems," There are some national solutions...if we wait for the World nothing will happen. "least of all making the world into a single nation state." This is true, if we ever get a World State it will mean universal slavery. "The nation state must die in the mind of humanity before we can all live in peace and plenty," Yes, statism must die in ALL it's forms before that can happen (even one's favorite version). "but the corporation must die with it or we're out of the frying pan into the fire." I agree, the corporation is the State's most evil creation. These fictitious "persons" plunder with the privilege of limited liability. A Frankenstein's Monster that feeds on greed and death. Whose fault is that but our own...we all seek our State granted privileges. The government should not have the ability to grant any privilege but that's one way they maintain their authority... Robert Paul DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
