Re: [CTRL] Fwd: [ctrl] Wahhabi a Monkey's Uncle
-Caveat Lector- Err... the FBI admitted that they had NO IDEA who the highjackers were, and unless one believes the nonsensical story about finding an unscorched passport for Mohammed Atta in the WTC debris, there IS no real evidence that indicates that Saudis, Mossad agents, or actors who portray Mickey Mouse at Disneyland and Disneyworld were the perpetrators of 9/11 -- this story presumes that one of the big CNN lies was swallowed without indigestion... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jews and Christians: Apes and Pigs? Saudi officials insist their nation cannot be blamed for having produced an overwhelming majority of the September 11 perpetrators A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Surprise Comet Streaks Into Solar System
-Caveat Lector- An ancient harbinger of evil. http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2002/12/1219_021219_comet.html A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] The Shocking Pagan Origin Of Christmas
-Caveat Lector- Not to be a total fun-hater, but the solstice was noticed way before anyone decided to invent a religion around its existence -- who isn't happy to see the sun growing slightly larger in the sky and to know the nights are getting shorter again? Nothing sinister about that. Shemuwel Antoine Moser wrote: -Caveat Lector- http://www.donet.com/~moser/index.htm/phallus.htm I speak from about Christmas on the sight above. Did you know that Christmas was originally the Roman pagan holiday Saturnelia? Saturn and Satan are the same words. One Early Latin and the other late Latin. Do you want to celebrate the Satan Day that is Christmas? Santa = Satan Read much more shocking info on the link above. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] The biggest threat: Osama or Saddam?
-Caveat Lector- Excuse me? Remember what 19 fanatics did on 9-11, or what two freaks with only an assault rifle did to the nation's capital and surrounding area a year later? 19 Mossad agents? And a couple of unusual persons with unlikely connections? Bzzt. Funny business. Next. An FBI source says there are battalions of Middle Eastern terrorist sleepers embedded in the USA waiting to strike Would these be any kin to the seven Libyan assassins that Reagan was losing sleep over back in the 80s? Hogwash -- the stuff of two-minute hates. Bzzt. Next. homegrown crazies like Timothy McVeigh and John Muhammad. CIA payroll. Bzzt. Next. Paul Purcell, a sharp Georgia Homeland Security analyst, says: Conditions couldn't be more perfect for a terrorist attack. Translated: Our previous 127 warnings of impending attack have faded and we need another headline to maintain an acceptable level of fear and paranoia. Bzzt. Next. Retired Army Intelligence officer Hugh Blanchard adds, A dirty bomb would Dirty bomb. Squawk. Never been made. Squawk. Two-minute hate. Squawk. Buzzword. Squawk. Bzzt. Next. A Pentagon colonel says he heard Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld say, After we do Iraq ... Was he using an added emphasis on do as in screw or boink..? Rumsfeld is a fascist. Squawk. Dirty bomb. Al Queda. Islam bad, Jesus good. This has nothing to do with oil. Be afraid and obey orders. Bzzt. Next. Because no way are we prepared for or ready to respond to the predicted second wave that could fill our hospitals and shut Second wave. Squawk. Anyone claimed responsibility for the first wave..? Islam bad, Jesus good. Give us your oil or die. Obey orders. Do not question anything. This is for your own good. We are men in suits and you can trust us. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Ted Shackley dies @ 75
-Caveat Lector- http://wireservice.wired.com/wired/story.asp?section=BreakingstoryId=593562 A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om Title: Wired News -Caveat Lector- Welcome to Wired News. Skip directly to: Search Box, Section Navigation, Content. Search: News Animations Wired Magazine HotBot (the Web) CIA Operative Theodore Shackley Dies Friday, December 13, 2002 10:26 p.m. EST Theodore Shackley, who ran the CIA's Miami operation during the height of U.S. tensions with Cuba in the 1960s, has died of prostate cancer. He was 75. Shackley died Monday at his home in Bethesda, according to Joseph Gawler and Sons funeral home. Story Tools Subjects Mentioned West Palm Beach Cold War Fidel Castro Names Mentioned Thomas Spencer More Wire Service Stories Breaking News Business Entertainment Politics Science Sports Technology World As Miami station chief, Shackley directed about 400 agents and operatives during the Cuban missile crisis of October 1962 and Operation Mongoose, a U.S. effort to topple Cuban leader Fidel Castro . He later served as the CIA's associate deputy director for clandestine operations from May 1976 to December 1977. "Shackley was an emblematic figure of the Cold War _ the epitome of the clandestine bureaucrat who had been involved in the key chapters, many of them dark, of the CIA's history," said David Corn, Washington editor of The Nation and author of "Blond Ghost: Ted Shackley and the CIA's Crusades." Nicknamed "The Blond Ghost" because he hated to be photographed, Shackley has been described by those who knew him as an exacting, intense, elusive covert operator. He was "a brilliant mind, a tremendous tactician and strategist," said Miami attorney Thomas Spencer, a friend of Shackley's for three decades. "He was able to pick up the phone and talk to virtually every world leader that existed in the last 20 years." Shackley held several high-profile posts during a 28-year career with the CIA, including work as a senior CIA officer in Berlin, Saigon and Laos. He retired from the CIA in 1979 and set up a Washington-area consulting firm that offered security strategy to corporate executives. He also wrote a book on counterinsurgency in 1981 called "The Third Option." Shackley was raised in West Palm Beach , Fla., and attended the University of Maryland. Copyright 2002 Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed. Related Stories Obituaries in the News More Stories In This Section Replacement Named for Kentucky Bishop Dixiecrats' 1948 Loss Heralded Change 3 Reported Lost on 9/11 Confirmed Alive Reaction to Cardinal Law's Resignation Back to Wire Service: Breaking News Headlines Wired News: Staff | Contact Us | Advertising We are translated daily into Spanish, Portuguese, and Japanese Copyright 2002, Lycos, Inc. All Rights Reserved. Your use of this website constitutes acceptance of the Lycos Privacy Policy and Terms Conditions Note: Wired News content is accessible to all versions of every browser. However, this browser may not support basic Web standards, preventing the display of our site's design details. We support the mission of the Web Standards Project in the campaign encouraging users to upgrade their browsers. (Read More) A HREF=""www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list.
[CTRL] Computer Sciences to Buy Dyncorp
-Caveat Lector- Computer Sciences to Buy Dyncorp Fri Dec 13 EL SEGUNDO, Calif./RESTON, Va. (Reuters) - Computer Sciences Corp. said on Friday it planned to buy information technology firm DynCorp for about $950 million, including $273 million in debt, to take advantage of the U.S. government's need for more security-related services. Shareholders in privately owned DynCorp will receive $15 in cash and about $43 in Computer Sciences stock per DynCorp share, the companies said in a statement. Computer Sciences said it expected to close the transaction during the first quarter of 2003, and it expected the acquisition to add to its fiscal year 2004 results, excluding the impact of a charge related to the deal. Reston, Virginia-based DynCorp had revenues of $2.3 billion for the 12 months ended September 26, and focuses on the large defense, security and civil markets, the companies said. DynCorp's customers include the U.S. Department of Defense, the Navy, the State Department and the Department of Justice. Computer Sciences said it would use DynCorp's services to offer support to the new federal Homeland Security Department. The Department was created as part of the response to the September 11 attacks in the United States last year in which more than 3,000 people died. Its role is to help try to prevent another strike on U.S. soil. The exchange ratio of Computer Sciences granted for each DynCorp share will depend on the closing price of Computer Sciences shares for 15 days leading up to a DynCorp shareholder vote on the merger. If the average Computer Sciences closing share price is above below $28 for that period, Computer Sciences has the right to increase the cash component of the deal such that the total value is equal to $55 per DynCorp share. If CSC elects not to do so, DynCorp has the right to terminate the takeover. Shares of Computer Sciences closed at $34.67 on the New York Stock Exchange on Thursday. With this transaction, we are seizing an opportunity to significantly strengthen our leadership position in the U.S. federal marketplace, augment our capabilities to support the requirements of the new Homeland Security Department and respond to the federal government's initiative to increase its reliance on service providers, said CSC Chairman and Chief Executive Officer Van B. Honeycutt. The deal will help Computer Sciences compete against rivals International Business Machines and Electronic Data Systems in the market for supplying technical consulting and computer services. Computer Sciences on Nov. 5 lowered its fiscal year 2003 profit forecast to $2.60 per share from a range of $2.73 to $2.88 per share, citing slack demand for its consulting and systems integration services in North America and a challenging environment in Europe. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] http://www.dubyadubyadubya.com
-Caveat Lector- Outstanding!! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fledgling Okinawa USMC Romance Foiled When Victim Escapes
-Caveat Lector- http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A7531-2002Dec4.html A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] US service men acquitted for running over schoolgirls
-Caveat Lector- Did you mean the three groids (Two Navy, One Marine) who raped one Okinawan 13-year-old..? They were sentences to a military prison, not the Japanese prison they deserved. How about those hotdog Marine pilots who managed to severe the cable of an Italian cable car, sending twenty Europeans to their deaths? They were acquited. In Virginia. And then they whooped and high-fived each other. Lovely. I'm guessing that Roman Legion troops had a higher conviction rate for crimes committed while deployed... -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 11/27/2002 6:13:15 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Currently, the US military has jurisdiction over American soldiers accused of crimes while on duty, although it can allow South Korea to try them on a case-by-case basis. -- AP Back in the seventies a marine on Okinawa raped two Okinawan girls. One was about thirteen and the other about eleven. As I remember they were sisters. I never heard anything about how that came out, but if it was handled in the usual way, the marine was sent back to the states. Anybody remember hearing anything about it. I don't recall anyone getting very excited about it at the time. I think it was either 1975 or 1976. The military is usually pretty forgiving of the military--well unless fraternization is involved. They can get pretty excited about dating between officers and enlisted personnel. Other than than they can get away with murder. Prudy A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] 15,000 and counting
-Caveat Lector- It's a shame that the Palestinians don't enjoy an endless flow of American dollars and weapons. They could use a few hundred tanks, helicopter gunships, ground to air missiles -- even a few hundred armoured personnel carriers would be useful to ferry workers to and from olive groves so that they wouldn't be murdered. And what a refreshing change of pace it would be to hear that Ariel Sharon was holed up in his compound, surrounded by Palestinian tanks, hell-bent on turning him over to an international tribunal. Tenorlove wrote: -Caveat Lector- 15,000 and counting ... BY MICHAEL FREUND Nov. 19, 2002 Though hardly anyone seems to have noticed, Israel recently set a new world record. It is unclear when precisely it occurred, or what the exact circumstances were. But at some point earlier this month, Israel became the first country to endure its 15,000th terrorist attack in just over a two-year period. i A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Powell Attacks Christian Right
-Caveat Lector- Productive post. Did you know that over half of Tesla's patents are STILL classified as top secret..? -Caveat Lector- Is that right? I'd forgotten, and how silly of you not to remind me, that Nicola Tesla had beamed himself electro-magnetically-anti-gravitationally through fork lightning to Mars and back again only to have his body sucked bone-dry of blood by the evil Reptilians of the ZOG Whitehouse who stole his advanced technology and now control the world! - Dave.. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Meet President Dennis Hastert
-Caveat Lector- I notice his name is listed as J. Dennis Hastert -- those leading initial names are invariably CIA... Euphorian wrote: -Caveat Lector- http://www.warontyranny.com/hastert.html This is hypothetical. What if something happened and George W. Bush couldn't be President anymore? For example, what if Bush were to be impeached? The the job would go to Dick Cheney. But what if Cheney was also impeached? Then it would be time to say Hello to President Dennis Hastert A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http://archive.jab.org/ctrl;listserv.aol.com/ A HREF=http://archive.jab.org/ctrl;listserv.aol.com/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] FBI Admits: No Evidence
-Caveat Lector- http://www.americanfreepress.net/051302/FBI_Admits__No_Evidence_/fbi_admits__no_evidence_.html A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http://archive.jab.org/ctrl;listserv.aol.com/ A HREF=http://archive.jab.org/ctrl;listserv.aol.com/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om Title: FBI Admits: No Evidence -Caveat Lector- FBI Admits: No Evidence Links 'Hijackers' to 9-11 The possibility that 19 Muslim men accused of being the Sept. 11 hijackers were not, in fact, the hijackers, is not so extraordinary an idea as it might seem. Exclusive To American Free Press By Michael Collins Piper After seven months of non-stop declarations by U.S. government spokesmen that there exists solid proof tying 19 Muslim men to plotting the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, FBI Director Robert Mueller has now admitted quite the opposite. That 19 Muslim men who have apparently disappeared have been named as the hijackers is not in doubt. What is in doubt is whether those 19 men were actually plotting anything, either individually or together. The amazing possibility remains that others carried out the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, using the identities of the 19 Muslims who have been assigned guilt in the tragedy. In an April 19 speech delivered to the Common wealth Club in San Francisco, Mueller said that the purported hijackers, in his words, left no paper trial. The FBI director stated flatly: In our investigation, we have not uncovered a single piece of papereither here in the United States or in the treasure trove of information that has turned up in Afghanistan and elsewherethat mentioned any aspect of the Sept. 11 plot. In describing Muellers evidence fiasco, Los Angeles Times reporters Erich Lichtblau and Josh Meyer, whose article was reprinted in The Washington Post on April 30, note that: Law enforcement officials say that while they have been able to reconstruct the movements of the hijackers before the attacksall legal except for a few speeding ticketsthey have found no evidence of their actual plotting. The Times reporters acknowledge that Muellers comments offer the FBIs most comprehensive and detailed assessment to date of its investigation, remarkable as much for what investigators have not found as for what they have. The FBI director explained away the absence of evidence by making the disingenuous assertion that the hijackers used meticulous planning, extraordinary secrecy and extensive knowledge of how America works to conceal their scheme. Mueller made this claim despite the fact that in the immediate wake of the Sept. 11 attacks, a variety of U.S. officials and media sources speciously announced, almost instantaneously, that there was firm evidence not only that these 19 Muslim men were agents of Osama bin Ladens al Qaeda network but that they were indeed the individuals who hijacked the doomed flights on Sept. 11. Mueller seems to forget that early government and media reports loudly hyped discoveriesletters and other documentsin the luggage and personal belongings of the presumed hijackers which proved that they were on a mission for Allah, etc etc. Now Muellers comments seem to contradict everything thats been said. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity
[CTRL] Extra-Judicial Executions
-Caveat Lector- From a letter sent to the White House by Amnesty International on Friday regarding the robot plane attack in Yemen that left six or so people dead: If this was the deliberate killing of suspects in lieu of arrest, in circumstances in which they did not pose an immediate threat, the killings would be extra-judicial executions in violation of international human rights law, the London-based rights group in a statement. Is it just my ordinary-Joe take on things, or was this attack by a robot plane armed with missiles obscene..? Since when is this an ok thing to do? Would it be ok for Cuba or France or Chile to sent robot planes into the US to kill people they didn't care for, like Kissinger..? A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http://archive.jab.org/ctrl;listserv.aol.com/ A HREF=http://archive.jab.org/ctrl;listserv.aol.com/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] The FBI Has Bugged Our Public Libraries
-Caveat Lector- http://www.ctnow.com/features/lifestyle/hc-privacy1103.artnov03col.story A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http://archive.jab.org/ctrl;listserv.aol.com/ A HREF=http://archive.jab.org/ctrl;listserv.aol.com/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] What Happened
-Caveat Lector- You're not the only one totally baffled at the election results. I had hoped and expected to see the alleged second party in the US make a strong showing and it just didn't happen. But I have to agree that Jeb Bush's being re-elected in Florida is disgusting. Mermaid wrote: What happened over there in the states we british are bemused? You all had the chance not to vote Jeb Bush back in and what did you do? You put the idiot back in We are stunned here Do you guys realy want this little toe rag running Florida.I am amazed at the american public who I had such admiration for and now I just dont know what to think! Th Mermaid England A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http://archive.jab.org/ctrl;listserv.aol.com/ A HREF=http://archive.jab.org/ctrl;listserv.aol.com/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] U.S. Rejects Chechen Separatist Chief Aslan Maskhadov
-Caveat Lector- U.S. Rejects Chechen Separatist Chief Aslan Maskhadov is labeled 'damaged goods' after the taking of hostages at a Moscow theater by rebels from the Caucasus region. By Robyn Dixon and David Holley Times Staff Writers, Times Staff Writers MOSCOW -- The leader of Chechnya's separatist movement, Aslan Maskhadov, was repudiated and isolated Tuesday after a senior U.S. official called him damaged goods with links to terrorism in the wake of last week's seizure of a Moscow theater by bomb-toting Chechens. America's tough rejection of the former Chechen president, whom Washington had previously viewed as a potential negotiating partner with the Russians, leaves the U.S. position on the separatist republic broadly in line with that of Moscow. While Washington still expresses concerns about abuses by Russian troops in Chechnya, the U.S. official -- who spoke on condition he not be identified -- stressed strong condemnation of Maskhadov and the hostage-takers at the theater. He declared that the Chechen leader should be excluded from any peace talks. Maskhadov's spokesman, Ahmed Zakayev, has denied that Maskhadov was involved in the attack and has denounced terrorism, but he has said he could understand why the Chechens took their action. The theater standoff ended Saturday when Russian forces stormed the building, leaving about 50 of the attackers and more than 100 of the hostages dead. Underscoring the harm the attackers did to the Chechens' cause internationally, the U.S. official said Maskhadov had failed to disassociate himself from terrorism. Withdrawal of Russian forces from Chechnya was the key demand of the hostage-takers. Chechens won a degree of autonomy for their republic in the Caucasus region after defeating Russian troops in a 1994-96 war. Russian forces marched back into the republic in 1999 and have battled guerrillas there since. Adding to a sense of crisis in Moscow, a rebel missile brought down a Russian military helicopter in Chechnya on Tuesday, killing four soldiers, authorities said. Defense and security officials met with President Vladimir V. Putin, then pledged even tougher measures against Chechen separatists. Putin's stance appeared to be paying off in terms of popular support. A poll by the All-Russia Public Opinion Center released Tuesday showed that 85% of respondents approved of Putin's handling of the theater standoff. Russian health authorities have said that in addition to nearly all the hostage-takers, 118 people died in the incident, all but two from a gas used to knock out most of those in the theater before Russian forces stormed it. Washington has long labeled the Chechen conflict as an internal Russian problem and criticized Russian methods there, but Tuesday's comments confirm a marked shift in policy. By early September, the U.S. ambassador to Moscow, Alexander Vershbow, was saying publicly that America viewed Maskhadov with increasing skepticism but that he should still be included in any peace talks. Speaking Tuesday about the hostage ordeal, Vershbow said that some lives probably could have been saved if Russian authorities had given medical personnel more information about the kind of gas used to swiftly render most of those in the theater unconscious before the assault by special forces. It's clear that with perhaps a little more information, at least a few more of the hostages may have survived, Vershbow said. To the best of our knowledge, based on our own doctors who visited some of the American hostages and were able to do their own assessment and talk to some of the Russian medical officials, we do think that [the gas used] was an opiate, he added. He said he believes it was a drug known as fentanyl, long used as an anesthetic in hospitals in many countries. But we have still not received official confirmation of that fact from Russian authorities, he said. Still, Vershbow said he wouldn't second-guess the Russian decision to launch the assault. They had a difficult decision to make, and with the bombs that were there they probably saved hundreds of lives, even if we regret that more than 100 died, largely as a result of the gas, he said. Some medical experts, however, have said that no general anesthetic could have been delivered to the auditorium in sufficient concentrations to put so many people to sleep so quickly. The All-Russia Public Opinion Center poll also asked whether Russia should take a far tougher approach in Chechnya, comparable to resolute actions ... America has carried out after Sept. 11. Of those surveyed, 54% said yes and 36% said no. Since the United States declared its war against terrorism, it has accepted Russian warnings that Chechen fighters were linked to international terrorism and the Al Qaeda network. The senior U.S. official who spoke Tuesday said that while there was no evidence of a direct Al Qaeda link in last week's theater siege, it was clear that Al Qaeda operatives had trained Chechen
[CTRL] Alfred M. Lilienthal : Why The Rise In Anti-Semitism In Europe?
-Caveat Lector- Alfred M. Lilienthal : Why The Rise In Anti-Semitism In Europe? Sunday, October 27 2002 @ 07:39 PM GMT Any time that we hear that Jews are suddenly being persecuted, we have to ask what is really going on. Are their opponents attacking them only because they are Jews? By Dr. Alfred M. Lilienthal WASHINGTON (PINA) - An op-ed piece by Abraham Foxman, head of the Anti-Defamation League, entitled Europe's Anti-Israel Excuse appeared in the Washington Post on June 26, 2002. Foxman claims to believe that the growing criticism in Europe of Israeli misconduct somehow equals a resurgence of anti-Semitism similar to the dark Hitler era. For that matter, he makes an even far wider claim that this supposed new rise in the old anti-Semitism is somehow central to all human experience: Throughout history a constant barometer for judging the level of hate and exclusion vs. the level of freedom and democracy in any society has been anti-Semitism -- how a country treats its Jewish citizens. Jews have been persecuted and delegitimized throughout history because of their perceived differences. Any society that can understand and accept Jews is typically more democratic, more open and accepting of 'the other.' This predictor has held true throughout the ages. Here in Foxmans own words, we have a prime example of the kind of egocentric and grandiose preoccupation with his Jewishness that tends to give other Jews a bad name. What hogwash that throughout all of human history and throughout all the societies that have ever existed, the world has somehow revolved around the status of The Jews! This claim of unique Jewish specialness is preposterous and offensive. If the Irish, the Chinese, the Arabs, the Catholics, the Buddhists, or any other ethnic or religious group made such a ridiculous universal claim about themselves, we would likely find it both disgusting and laughable. Foxman makes this absurd statement, but if we dare to say it is absurd, immediately he would counter that we are anti-Semitic to say so. A half century ago there were only a few of us Jews in America who were willing to be openly anti-Zionist and publicly question Israel's brutal conduct toward the Arab inhabitants of Palestine. Rabbi Elmer Berger and I used to tangle with the Anti-Defamation League even way back then. We were labeled self-hating Jews, and our criticisms of Zionism were thus largely dismissed. Berger passed on from this world in 1996, but I am still around to attempt to refute the many distortions of Abraham Foxman and the present ADL. Fortunately, I am no longer alone in my old age to make these challenges! Younger Jewish people in America and Europe and throughout the world are now bravely and eloquently speaking out. The Washington Post printed on July 6, 2002 the following Letter to the Editor by a Board Member of Jews for Peace in Palestine and Israel: As an American Jew, I am outraged by Abraham Foxman's irrational conclusions from the Anti-Defamation League's poll on anti-Semitism in Europe [op-ed, June 27]. Although attacks on synagogues are undoubtedly troubling and cause for concern, Foxman's assessments of the trends associated with these attacks are so contrived as to be utterly puzzling. If 45 percent of those Europeans polled think that most Jews have a strong loyalty to Israel, they are right -- from an early age, we are taught that Israel is a homeland to Jews, and thus most Jews develop a strong connection to it. This perception being accurate, how is it that those who have noticed can be categorized as anti-Semitic? By the same token, Foxman reports that 62 percent of those polled see the outbreak of violence against Jews as a result of anti-Israel sentiment, not anti-Jewish feelings. Yes, criticism of Israeli policies is on the rise. But how is this tantamount to anti-Semitism? If I criticize the government of Zimbabwe, am I somehow a racist? Many Jews, myself included, are highly critical of Prime Minister Ariel Sharon's policies, as they feed into an endless cycle of violence that threatens Jewish and Arab lives. We are long overdue for a serious intellectual inquiry as to how the president of a leading American Jewish organization can falsely equate criticism of Israel with anti-Semitism, or, as I prefer to more accurately call the phenomenon, anti-Jewish sentiments. Our cousins the Arabs are Semitic too. Nicole Dannenberg Sorger. Foxman made other charges that call for further challenge: During the past year and a half a troubling epidemic of anti-Jewish hatred, not isolated to any one country or community, has produced a climate of intimidation and fear in the Jewish communities of Europe. Never, as a Holocaust survivor, did I believe we would witness another eruption of anti-Semitism of such magnitude, in Europe of all places. But the resiliency of anti-Semitism is unparalleled. It rears its ugly head in far-flung places, like Malaysia and Japan, where there are no Jews. You don't
[CTRL] US Spy for Cuba sentenced
-Caveat Lector- http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-spy17oct17004437,0,5367105.story?coll=la%2Dheadlines%2Dnation A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http://archive.jab.org/ctrl;listserv.aol.com/ A HREF=http://archive.jab.org/ctrl;listserv.aol.com/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] FW: How we got here Florida: THE ARTICLE SALON WON1T RUN ABOUT A FILM PBS WON1T AIR
-Caveat Lector- Bing. Globalvision? Isn't this the Moonie corporation? Any relation? No? Yes? Our company Globalvision has experienced PBS1s rejection mania over A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] FW: How we got here Florida: THE ARTICLE SALON WON1T RUNABOUT A FILM PBS WON1T AIR
-Caveat Lector- Thanks! Great article on the FL elections... thew wrote: -Caveat Lector- As far as I can find so far - they did a documentary on Moon post prison (http://www.mediachannel.org/originals/moontranscript.shtml) But they are not funded by or affiliated with Moon or the Unification CHurch on 10/10/02 12:38 PM, alien at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- Bing. Globalvision? Isn't this the Moonie corporation? Any relation? No? Yes? Our company Globalvision has experienced PBS1s rejection mania over A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance?not soap-boxing?please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'?with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds?is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om -- -- -- -- - -- - -- -- - - - - -- --- -- - - - - -- - - - -- -- - -- - The police aren't here to create disorder, they are here to preserve disorder. Mayor Richard Daley NEURONAUTIC INSTITUTE on-line: http://home.earthlink.net/~thew A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] BUZZ
-Caveat Lector- Is there some special law that allows people to act like obnoxious assh*les and NOT get punched in the face? The Victim: (Bart Sibrel) He aggressively poked Aldrin with a Bible. He lured Aldrin to a meeting under false pretenses so he could interview the space hero. He followed Aldrin with a Bible and called him a thief, liar and a coward. After being punched in the face he asked of his camera crew, Did you get that? He failed to seek any medical attention. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] For your attention
-Caveat Lector- Somehow having the Star of David Israeli flag raised over the holiest mosque in Jerusalem p*ssed off the Muslim population something fierce... thew wrote: 1 - why Sharon visiting a Muslim holy site should invoke violence has never been adequately explained. Shouldn't religious sites be open to all? A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fw: Is China Invading the Panama Canal?
-Caveat Lector- Forgive me for being cynical, but if this fellow was involved in a Panamanian labor union at any time why didn't he end up in a mass grave during the US invasion in 1989..?? Sounds manufactured to me. Dear American friends: Before the Americans left the Canal in 1999 - leaving NO U.S. military presence here - I was president of one of Panama's major labor unions.s A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] letters to the editor badly needed - may be heavy for survivors
-Caveat Lector- May be heavy for survivors -- get fucking over it. You have a problem with the San Diego Union-Tribune.. No shit..? It's a POS newspaper with a fat fag for its editor in chief/owner. Ritual child abuse is pandemic in society -- no reason to clog what's let of the 'net with HTML whimperings and news flashes -- use ASCII. Spare me your bandwidth-consuming self-pitying HTML. Yeah, the power elite loves to fuck kids. Deal with it. Shut up and chew the gristle. Transmit the meat. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] scary poll
-Caveat Lector- The world is sleeping -- if ANY country tried half the shit Israel has perpetrated they'd be surrounded by UN troops. Go forth and figure. It's not a difficult problem. Oops, I must be an anti-Semite to even *think* such things. Mermaid wrote: -Caveat Lector- We are running a poll here in England over 3 days the question put to the British People is Should we the British assist US and invade Iraq and overthrow Saddam Hussein? 99% say yes 1% say no. I was shocked at this result from just talking to people i would have thought it would have been the other way around. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Zionists
-Caveat Lector- They were unusually gifted pilots since the planes that hit the WTC towers were pulling 3Gs and the plane that executed a 270 degree turn while descending towards the Pentagra^H^Hon was pulling 5Gs... why, it's remarkable that the pilots didn't black out under those conditions. If I didn't know better, I'd imagine that the planes were being remotely controlled... Mermaid wrote: -Caveat Lector- Who did fly the planes into the towers then? a A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: [911-Discussion] Heroes of Flight 93
-Caveat Lector- Pardon me, but if the plane hit the ground intact, how did debris spread over eight miles? Why did eyewitnesses report seeing an F-16 in the vicininity? The government line is that WIND spread the debris over eight miles... hmm. Interesting. Let's roll sounds like something some $1000-suited-razor-cut-Republican came up with to sell that tripe. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Scholars of the Absurd ?
-Caveat Lector- ya, as opposed to EDD, EDucated Derelict... Tenorlove wrote: -Caveat Lector- --- Tony Dickinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: P.S. How come a relevant PhD is not required to become a president ? Piled Higher and Deeper?? __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Third member of Saudi royal family dies within a week
-Caveat Lector- Saudi prince found dead in desert Agence France-Presse Riyadh, July 30 Saudi Prince Fahd bin Turki bin Saud al Kabir has been found dead in his country's searing desert, the official SPA news agency said early on Tuesday, adding that the prince apparently died of thirst. The report said the 25-year-old prince had been travelling in Rimah province, south of the town of al Ammaniya. It gave no further details. Prince Fahd was the third member of the extensive Saudi royal family to die in a week. Prince Sultan bin Faisal bin Turki al-Saud, 41, died in a road accident on July 23 as he was driving from the coastal resort of Jeddah to the capital Riyadh for the funeral of his cousin Prince Ahmed bin Salman bin Abdul Aziz, 43, who had died the day before of a heart attack. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
