Re: [CTRL] About the Hurricanes -- Screw these Tesla Coils or We Lose

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Your wrong. Troll's are ugly little men that live under bridges.

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[CTRL] FCC backs low power FM stations

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[CTRL] mad cow

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I don't know if this is off the topic. Ask any 
Hindu  You get more food from a live cow than a dead 
one.
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[CTRL] Fw: [WU] Fwd: At least Seven 6+ Earthquakes since 12-21-03

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   As a planet we 
haven't been keeping ocean and lake levels, climate, magnetic field 
changes and solar activity records long enough on a planetary scale to know 
what is "normal". If you have have read Velikovsky's theories the earth has been 
through many changes before and will go through more in the future. Earth will 
be very active for a while. If you study geology, in the past,  what are 
mountains today have been under water before. The Andes have risen to where 
they are within the time since humans have been here. Perfectly healthy 
creatures have been  wiped out suddenly for reasons we can only speculate. 

    We are 
just going into an active period and will have to learn to adjust to 
it.
    
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From: Andrew koresh 

To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Sent: Friday, December 26, 2003 4:17 PM
Subject: [WU] Fwd: At least Seven 6+ Earthquakes since 
12-21-03
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], 
"planetx2003" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]...> 
wrote:The sun is putting out more energy during this supposive solar 
minimum than we've ever seen in modern times during a solar maximum.This 
energy is being put to use by earth in a number of ways with wild weather 
(that is now the norm), increased quakes and volcanic activity, huge 
icebergs melting and breaking away.  But the major media and the 
disinfo crew is saying 'All Is Normal'They & NASA are silent about 
the number of comets coming through our solar system, which are entering 
mainly from the southern hemisphere. They wouldn't dare mention the 
connection between what they still call just dirty-snow-balls (really 
building planets) and the suns activity.The three hottest years 
since accurate records began to be kept in 1861 have all been in the last 
six years (2003 being one of them). They blame the warming on greenhouse 
gasses our civilization puts into the air.  Mars is also going through 
global warming. The Martians must also drive SUV's too of course for this 
logic to hold up.Mark H* * *At least Seven 6+ 
Earthquakes since 12-21-036.7 quake struck Southern Iran (over 15,000 
dead)http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3348613.stm6.5 
(revised) SOUTHEAST OF LOYALTY ISLANDS  6.2 (aftershock) SOUTHEAST OF 
LOYALTY ISLANDS  6.5 (revised) PANAMA-COSTA RICA BORDER REGION 6.0 
SOUTH OF KERMADEC ISLANDS 6.8 95 MILES SE OF MONTEREY-CA. 175 MILES SE OF 
SAN FRANCISCO-CA.6.6 CENTRAL MID-ATLANTIC RIDGE http://neic.usgs.gov/neis/bulletin/(latest 
quakes for the last week)Before the 1970's these quakes would all have 
been a full point higher on our degraded Richter scale.* * 
*Yellowstone! 
Scientists 
Closely Monitoring Yellowstone ProLiberty.com 12-23-3 Recent 
eruptions, 200 degree ground temperatures, bulging magma and 84 degree water 
temperatures prompt heightened scrutiny of park's geothermal activity... 
BILLINGS, Mont. -- Yellowstone National Park happens to be on top of 
one of the largest "super volcanoes" in the world. Geologists claim the 
Yellowstone Park area has been on a regular eruption cycle of 600,000 years. 
The last eruption was 640,000 years ago making the next one long overdue. 
This next eruption could be 2,500 times the size of the 1980 Mount St. 
Helens eruption. Volcanologists have been tracking the movement of magma 
under the park and have calculated that, in parts of Yellowstone, the ground 
has risen over seventy centimeters this century. In July, 2003, 
Yellowstone Park rangers closed the entire Norris Geyser Basin because of 
deformation of the land and excessive high ground temperatures. There is an 
area that is 28 miles long by 7 miles wide that has bulged upward over five 
inches since 1996, and this year the ground temperature on that bulge has 
reached over 200 degrees (measured one inch below ground level). 
There was no choice but to close off the entire area. Everything in 
this area is dying: The trees, flowers, grass and shrubs. A dead zone is 
developing and spreading outward. The animals are literally migrating out of 
the park. Then during the last part of July one of the Park geologists 
discovered a huge bulge at the bottom of Yellowstone Lake. The bulge has 
already risen over 100 feet from the bottom of the lake and the water 
temperature at the surface of the bulge has reached 88 degrees and is still 
rising. Keep in mind that Yellowstone Lake is a high mountain lake with 
very cold water temperatures. The Lake is now closed to the public. It is 
filled with dead fish floating everywhere. The same is true of the 
Yellowstone river and most of the other streams in the Park. Dead and 
dying fish are filling the water everywhere. Many of the picnic areas in 
the Park have been closed and people visiting the Park usually sta

Re: [CTRL] Fwd: [ctrl] St. Lenny can rest, at last.

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Lenny is probably somewhere smiling. 
 
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Re: [CTRL] Warning

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Prudy, 
   Also ( in shopping malls 
especially) get in the habit of looking under your car and in the back seat 
before you get in. I know it sounds strange but it's not all that hard to get a 
car door open and for a predator to crawl in the back seat and hide. 
   
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  From: 
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  The distressing incident in which Dru Sjodin, the North Dakota coed, 
   was abducted holds elements that all women should be warned about.  
  When a woman leaves a shopping mall, she is already in a difficult 
  situation.  Often it is dark, and she is passing innumerable cars and 
  vans.  There are people on all sides if there is a heavy shopping 
  situation.  Now add to this the fact that a woman leaving a mall has a 
  purse and/or a package  in one hand and lately is holding a phone to her 
  ear with the other.  She is not even concentrating on getting to her 
  car.  She is talking to someone and her mind is basically on the 
  conversation she is having.  She could not be more vulnerable if she were 
  wearing handcuffs.  This is a rather new situation, and I'm no rocket 
  scientist.  If I can figure out what an easy target women are in this 
  situation, so can a dozen or so freaky creeps who seem to always be looking 
  for victims.  I'm sure the scum who prey on women will all be trying the 
  new method.  Women all over the United States should be warned that when 
  they are through shopping anywhere and returning to their cars, they should 
  put the phone away before they exit the building and keep their attention on 
  their surroundings.   Malls are not the only places where this 
  should be observed.  There is no call  so urgent that it cannot wait 
  until they are in the car with the doors locked.   
  Prudy     
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Re: [CTRL] A Politically Correct War?

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Hey, it's a full moonwhat do you 
expect.

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  War?
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  Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  I did just that but that’s how I get 
the error messages that the address is incorrect! 
  I believe you need to put the words SIGNOFF and CTRL 
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[CTRL] A Good Book rabbi recommended

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I found this on msn.com this morning in case you 
didn't see it
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[CTRL] an interseting email from another list

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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2003 4:42 PM
Subject: [CPOP] TURMEL: Piss on Cameroon's Kidney Milk Ban


> JCT: Okay, I've never pointed out in court that I believe
> I'm healthy for two reasons:
> 1) consuming cannabis; 2) drinking my urine.
>
> Of the two medical marvels, I rate urine therapy superior.
> And just as the slavemasters have banned cannabis so the
> debt slaves don't have any cheap herbal medicine and so
> continue to be beset with their drunken poverty-stricken
> woes, and just as the slavemasters have dissed Vitamin B17
> so the debt slaves don't have any cheap cancer cures, so
> too, you would expect them to ban urine therapy it it's any
> good so the debt slaves don't have any free medicine and
> cancer cure!
>
> Ottawa Citizen
> March 16 2003
> Cameroon bans urine drinking after best-seller touts
> benefits
>
> JCT: Ever since Conrad Black took over the Citizen years
> back, they dropped the attribution of the source of the
> article. So in the Citizen, you can rarely know where the
> information is coming from. Reuters? AP? CNN? What? I guess
> they like taking credit for having a Citizen reporter in
> Cameroon. But the story in the Citizen was so short, I did a
> search on the net for it and found the whole thing and found
> it:
>
> From: Habshi ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
> Subject: Naturopathy
> Newsgroups: sci.med,soc.culture.indian, soc.culture.pakistan,
> soc.culture.usa,
> Date: 2003-03-16 03:50:12 PST
>
> The sensible thing to do is to find out the trace elements
> which might be beneficial. Maybe the Prophet was right about
> the camel stuff and Muslims need to change their diet.
>
> The Telegraph http://www.telegraph.co.uk
> Cameroon threatens to jail urine drinkers
> By Jane Flanagan
>
> JCT: Nice to know who wrote the article. It wasn't a Citizen
> writer. It was a Telegraph writer. I think lack of such
> attribution is bad journalism. Anyone disagree?
>
> JF: Johannesburg - A dramatic surge in the popularity of
> "urine therapy" in Cameroon has prompted the government to
> ban its consumption and threaten persistent offenders with
> jail. The health minister acted last week after a book about
> "urinotherapy", published in Switzerland, entered the best-
> seller list in Cameroon, prompting enthusiastic
> experimentation by readers. One newspaper hailed
> urinotherapy as a universal cure-all which could tackle
> scores of afflictions, including cancer, snakebites and
> infertility. Testimonials to the benefits of urine
> consumption dominated radio phone-ins and the letters pages
> of newspapers.
>
> "I had haemorrhoids for five years and nothing gave me
> relief. But six months ago, I started drinking half a glass
> of my urine every morning and I am practically healed," a
> shopkeeper from the capital Yaounde wrote to Le Messager
> newspaper. A magistrate claimed: "For several years I
> haven't had a hair on my head, but since I started drinking
> my urine it's started growing again - it's extraordinary."
>
> JCT: I've been drinking my urine for 5 years and it was only
> when I started massaging urine directly into my scalp that I
> started regrowing new hairs from the rejuvenated follicles.
> What's interesting is that all the new hairs are in the
> color of my youth, brown-blond, instead of the completely
> white I've been for the last 10 years.
>
> JF: Omer Otabela telephoned a radio station with the story
> of his 80-year-old grandmother. "When she was bitten by a
> snake in the fields, she drank her own urine. This slowed
> down the progress of the venom to her heart until she got to
> hospital," he declared.
>
> JCT: When my best girl-friend Pauline Morrissette got food
> poisoning after dining out with co-workers, she went home,
> drank two glasses of urine and was up and about later that
> evening. When she got to work the next day, the other two
> co-workers were still ailing.
>
> JF: Urinotherapy is practically as old as man himself. About
> 95 per cent of urine is water, 2.5 per cent is urea and 2.5
> per cent is a mix of minerals, salt, hormones and enzymes.
> Some practitioners believe that when rubbed on the skin or
> drunk, it can purify blood and tissues, and provide
> nutrients.
>
> JCT: I wish she'd explained where where the mix of minerals,
> salts, hormones, enzymes comes from! People have been
> conditioned to get puked out at the thought of urine but
> just like milk is a mix of minerals, salts, hormones,
> enzymes, taken by the mammaries
> from the blood, so too, urine is a mix of minerals, salts,
> hormones, enzymes, antibiotics, disinfectants, taken by the
> kidneys from the blood. The amneotic fluid we're all created
> in is basically the same wonderful stuff.
>
> What's incredible and makes one believe in wise God is that
> this is Kidney milk, taken directly from the bloodstream!
> And the kidneys don't grab the shit going by the recycle out
> the front end, they o

Re: [CTRL] How to Talk Texan

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The only problem is Stevie Ray Vaughn is dead.

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From: "Joshua Tinnin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 9:22 AM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] How to Talk Texan


> -Caveat Lector-
>
> At first I wasn't sure what this had to do with anything ... then I read
the
> subject line.
>
> Ha! Good one ;)
>
> However, there are a few good Texans, including Rep. Ron Paul, Stevie Ray
> Vaughan and Willie Nelson.
>
> - jt
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Euphorian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>   Print this article |   Close this window
> Something to drool over
>
> March 5 2003
>
> Fashion-conscious teens who get their lips or tongues pierced may end up
> "drooling like a St Bernard" or speaking like a drunk, dental hygienists
> warned today.
>
> The Dental Hygienists Association of Australia said piercings could cause
> prolonged drooling, slurred speech, difficulty chewing and swallowing,
> damaged teeth, reduced taste sensation and permanent nerve damage.
>
> Many people were also unaware that smoking, drinking and oral sex should
> be avoided for up to six weeks after an oral piercing because of an
> increased risk of tissue damage and bacterial infections.
>
> "Biting fingernails, putting your pencil in your mouth, kissing anyone,
> sticking your tongue in anyone's mouth, or anywhere else for that matter -
> oral sex is definitely out," spokeswoman Mary Beare told AAP.
>
> Meanwhile, the tongue could swell after piercing, causing the rings or
> barbells to become embedded in it and requiring surgery to remove the
> piercings.
>
> Damage to the oral nerves could also result in slurred speech or
paralysis.
>
> "The cool factor of a tongue or lip piercing is quickly lost when you're
> drooling like a St Bernard and sound like
> you've had 12 beers before you've opened your first," Ms Beare said.
>
> She said people who were considering getting an oral piercing should
> consult a professional first and go to a piercing salon that complied with
> infection control standards.
>
> But Scott Hemsworth, manager of a popular inner Sydney piercing studio,
> said Ms Beare was overstating the risks of oral piercing.
>
> "If that was the case we'd be out of business," he said.
>
> He said his studio pierced about 10 tongues, two lips and ten labrets (the
> skin just beneath the lower lip) a week.
>
> Mr Hemsworth said oral piercings had become less popular over the past
> six months.
>
> So pierced teenagers could face a prospect even worse than the health
> risks outlined by Ms Beare - they may find they have become last season's
> fashion victim.
>
> AAP
>
> This story was found at:
> http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/03/05/1046826429118.html
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[CTRL] Safety at concerts and nightspots

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  So many of us just 
presume that nightspots, theatres, and concerts are setup for our safety. How 
many of us have ever called ahead of going somewhere to check the number of fire 
exits or safety conditions of the building. Many of us don't like crowded places 
or being in a strange building or place with lots of people. The two incidents 
in the last four days in Chicago and West Warrick R.I. remind us to think before 
we rush off to party especially where alcohol or drug consumption is possible. 
Panic is likely in any situation but is made worse by being intoxicated. 

  At the cost of any 
entertainment these days, with some concert tickets costing over $400.00 a 
seat, we should plan ahead before rushing off somewhere. 
  
 
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Re: [CTRL] Hoax?

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I have a suggestion for a uniform for these busybodies...How
about BROWN SHIRTS ???

- Original Message -
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Subject: [CTRL] Hoax?


> -Caveat Lector-
>
> I received this today and think it a joke or hoax. Can anyone in Northern
> Ohio confirm or debunk. It seems to be way out there, or is it?
> Rob
>
>
> This email is just to inform everyone about a new important group that the
> government has formed. It is a way private citizens can serve their
country
> in these troubled times.
>
> The organization is the Homeland Security Volunteer Program. People who
have
> graduated from the 6 week training course get a
> beautiful little pin...the eagle's image with the stars and strips flowing
> below it...and the HSVP in gold..and there is room for the little
gemstones
> they add on when you follow your training and report people who are
> unpatriotic and a threat to our security.
>
> One member, locally, is very active. If she hears of someone who is not a
> Bush supporter, against the government as it is now, or had a negative
> opinion about the War on Iraqespecially anyone who is one of those
> peace-supporters.. they have a phone number that they call, and they give
> the license plate, name, address..whatever they know or can get ahold of
to
> inform the authorities. She saw cars with peace bumper stickers on them in
> Sandusky and took their plate numbers to turn in.
>
> There are quite a few volunteers in this area ...all her friends that she
> has been recruiting.. (they get a little blue stone for every 10 they
> recruit)..if they finish the program.
>
> They may be coming up with uniforms for the recruits.
>
> She was asked if she had any business cards to give out to perspective
> recruits - she said they don't give out cards...she takes the phone number
> and gives it to her commander and he calls the new person..asks them
> questions such as:
>
> Are you a Republican or Democrat?
>
> Did you vote for Pres. Bush?
>
> How do you feel about the anti-government peace movement?
>
> Do you go to church on Sunday, where?(they want addresses,etc.., and who
is
> your pastor and what are his/her sermons like?
>
> Do you now know anyone who has anti-American views...like anti-war/peace
> people?
>
> Do you feel angry about terrorism and terrorists..especially BinLauden and
> Saddam Hussan?
>
> Would you be willing to turn in someone who you were related
> toespecially if it threatened goverment security?
>
> In this area, I've been told, there are two training places. They each
train
> about 50 people every six weeks.
>
> My section of the country will soon be very secure against terrorism. I
> don't know if your area has this program going as of yet or if Northern
Ohio
> is just where the program is being started.
>
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Re: [CTRL] Scientists seek 'super-soldiers' formula

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Go to the video store and try to find a video called "Jacob's Ladder". Watch
it and then give a comment.

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Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 11:54 AM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] Scientists seek 'super-soldiers' formula


> -Caveat Lector-
>
> Science can very well make human serial-killer machines,
> with easily eliminated conscience and no emotions.
>
> Unfeeling and uncaring human robots of the New World Order,
> with absolute, addicted obedience to their masters.
>
> Their highest reward, being allowed to serve their masters
> and lick their boots after a job well done.
>
> Conditioned to obey and serve. Future soldiers have no
> right to refuse the drugs or the conditioning treatment.
>
> Another dream of a dictator come true.
>
> On Mon, 6 Jan 2003, Jay Lowry wrote:
>
> > Mind: Scientists seek 'super-soldiers' formula
> > Posted by: valis on Jan 05, 2003 - 11:41 PM
> >
> > The Pentagon has launched a series of remarkable medical experiments to
> > find a way to keep its soldiers and pilots awake and alert for up to
> > five days at a time. The mission to create an "Extended Performance War
> > Fighter", as the project is known, took on added urgency last week as
> > the military use of amphetamine stimulants - "go pills" as they are
> > called - was plunged into deep controversy.
> >
> > http://makeashorterlink.com/?U3BA52BF2
> >
> > Mitre Corp., Offutt AFB, September 11, DARPA, Global Hawk, and Wetware
> > http://makeashorterlink.com/?W291259F2
> >
> > WTC, Buffet, China, Offut AFB, L-3 , MONTAUK, BMI and the CIA
> > http://makeashorterlink.com/?P271149F2
>
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Re: [CTRL] Sons Of Mau Mau Declare War On Freemasonry

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Zuukie,
    If your 
going to send large attachments PLEASE send them out in the middle of the night. 
They bogged down people incoming mail. 
  
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Re: [CTRL] Mystery force pulls old space probe toward sun

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Saba,
   That last question has crossed my mind a time or two in my life.
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Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 11:14 PM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] Mystery force pulls old space probe toward sun


> -Caveat Lector-
>
> Isn't this fantastic.   Wonder if batteries were included on this one
> for it is said there is a battery on these craft.
>
> And then look down to earth, and take Israel - please take Israel.
> Just think, how far these craft have gone, and in 30 years nothing has
> changed here on earth.
>
> All this crap about worshiping at somebody's feet when we have these
> craft in the sky which according to Acts 19, we should not worship - we
> we don't it is just that they do cost so damn much.
>
> Now if they could come up with a battery like this one up there over a
> billion miles away -just think of a world with no more of that black
> stuff called oil.
>
> Imagine buying a car - King Size - with a sign " Battery
> Included"for life of auto
>
> And what if we are just returning, from whence we came?
>
> Even Christ when asked how he expected to return to his father in heaven
> said, he would ascend the same way, he descended.now which makes me
> wonder..is this planet, this late great planet earth, really Hell?
>
> OSaba
>
> You know wonder with whom the turkey was crossed that it cannot fly.
> Maybe once angels on earth did have wings.
>
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Re: [CTRL] Excluded Jewish prophets?

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I think that one of his most misunderstood quotes was that "religion
is the opiate of the masses". In the context of the time in which he lived
this was very true. Since in most societies then there was no "safety net".
If you were too ill to work, and had no family to help you out, you just
fell thru the cracks. I many places there were still "debter's prisons or
work houses. It was too easy then, to say to a poor starving worker, that it
was God's will that things be that way. That they should accept it and hope
for a reward in heaven. People bore with the most deploreable conditions
because they felt God had deemed it so.
In our time we have so little concept of such a struggle. The
closest we can to this was the great depression in the 1930's. There is a
book "Down and Out in the Great Depression" of letters from common people in
their own language to the President and others describing their situation.
Many families lost their homes for less than $40.00 in back taxes.
Another book is fiction but gives you a sense of what true poverty
is "The Jungle" by Upton Sinclair (who by the way happened to be a
socialist).
This comment may be off topic but I think it's related. Like they
say "nothing happens in a vaccuum".
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Sent: Monday, February 11, 2002 4:21 AM
Subject: [CTRL] Excluded Jewish prophets?


> -Caveat Lector-
>
> BF>I read the Jewish prophets regularly, not often read straight through
> in Synagogues but in parts.  I believe that what they have to say is
> relevant for the world today, including the Christian and Islamic
> worlds.  They speak to humanity, and are rightly claimed by the forces
> of social justice as their own.  Not included in the Bible, but relied
> on by large numbers of Jewish people, are the predictions of the
> Lubavitcher Rebbe, said to have predicted the fall of the Soviet Union
> and other events.  People ignore these teachers at their peril.
> However, definitely excluded from any Jewish canon are four people
> who I believe may qualify as Jewish prophets in some sense.  I believe
> that they are controversial, but may be beneficial to an understanding
> of the world.
> They are:
> 1)Jesus of Nazareth
> 2)John the Revelator
> 3)Nostradomus
> 4)Karl Marx.
>
> I am not sure if Nostradomus was Jewish, but it is said that he
> was.  Marx may not have been Jewish because of his matrilineal heritage,
> but has been claimed to have been, and I will assume that he was until
> it is demonstrated otherwise.  For all practical intent and purpose, I
> will say that these four are Jewish teachers seem to have been excluded
> from the canon for ideological reasons.
> Jesus, claimed to be the Messiah by his followers, predicted the
> fall of the Temple, if events were as written in the Gospels.  He also
> made comments on divorce and social injustice that must be taken in to
> account.  He challenged conservative male Jewish forces on some very
> valid points.  I do not accept the claim that he was the Messiah,
> however whether he was or was not it is more important to honor God that
> man.  He said as much himself.  Trinitarian Christians should take heed
> of his own words on the subject of God and man.
> John the Revelator seems to have predicted many things in the world
> today.  Much corresponds to what is written in the Book of Daniel.
> However, he also predicted the rise of a latter-day Babylon the Great,
> an imperialistic nation that essentially rules over the kingdoms of the
> earth, something the non-apocraphyl books of the Hebrew Bible do not
> seem to mention directly.  Much of what he wrote about seems to have
> come to pass in the rising to power of an economic system ruling over
> the kingdoms of the planet.  I step back from saying that the United
> States fulfills this prophecy geographically.  I would pray it were
> otherwise.  However, I cannot dismiss it.
> Nostradomus seems to have a good accuracy rating.  Even the 1999
> prophecy may have come true in the form of the JFK, Jr. crash.  I do not
> dismiss this possibility, but it is a hard one, and much like seeing
> patterns in the bark of a tree.  So  much has been claimed about
> Nostradomus that I cannot really say one way or the other.  I am
> skeptical about New Age prophets but Ican say that a very few seem
> incredibly accurate.  Nostradomus seems to have been incredibly
> accurate.
> Karl Marx is a much maligned name because it is associated with the
> atheistical tyrannies of the former Soviet Union and modern China.
> Erich Fromm and T.B. Bottmore unearthed a more complex thinker by
> searching the archives.  He was heavily influenced by the Enlightenment
> and its views on religion, and was no more guilty than other thinkers of
> his time of not believing in God.

[CTRL] Bed to Crate to Pound

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Off post but should be read



>
> How Could You?
> A man in Grand Rapids, Michigan took out a $7000 full page ad in the
> paper to present the following essay to the
> people of our community.  It really touched my heart and I hope it will
> yours too.
>
> HOW COULD YOU?
> By Jim Willis 2001
>
>
> When I was a puppy, I entertained you with my antics and made you laugh.
> You   called me your child, and
> despite a number of chewed shoes and a couple of  murdered throw
> pillows, I became your best friend.
>  Whenever I was "bad,"  you'd shake your finger at me and ask "How could
> you?" -- but then you'd relent, and
> roll me over for a bellyrub.
> My housebreaking took a little longer than expected, because you were
> terribly busy, but we worked on that
> together.  I remember those nights of nuzzling you in bed and listening
> to your confidences and secret dreams,
> and I believed that life could not be any more perfect.  We went
> for   long walks and runs in the park, car rides, stops for ice cream (I
> only got the cone because "ice cream is
> bad for dogs,"  ( you said), and I took long naps in the sun waiting for
> you to come home at the end of the day.
> Gradually, you began spending mor! e time at work and on your career,
> and more time searching for a human
> mate.  I waited for you patiently, comforted you through heartbreaks and
> disappointments, never chided you
> about bad decisions, and romped with glee at your homecomings, and when
> you fell in love.  She, now your wife,
> is not a "dog person" -- still I welcomed her into our home, tried to
> show her affection, and obeyed her.  I was
> happy because you were happy.
> Then the human babies came along and I shared your excitement.  I was
> fascinated by their pinkness, how they
> smelled, and I wanted to mother them, too.  Only she and you worried
> that I might hurt them, and I spent most of
> my time banished to another room, or to a dog crate.  Oh,
> how I wanted to love them, but I became a "prisoner of love."
> As they began to grow, I became their friend.  They clung to my fur and
> pulled themselves up on wobbly legs, !
> poked fingers in my eyes, investigated my ears, and ga! ve me kisses on
> my nose.  I loved everything about them
> and their touch -- because your touch was now so infrequent --
> and I would have defended them with my life if need be.  I would sneak
> into their beds and listen to their worries
> and secret dreams, and together we waited for the sound of your car in
> the driveway.
> There had been a time, when others asked you if you had a dog, that you
> produced a photo of me from your
> wallet and told them stories about me. These past few years, you just
> answered "yes" and changed the subject.
>  I had gone from being "your dog" to "just a dog," and you resented
> every
> expenditure on my behalf.
> Now, you have a new career opportunity in another city, and you and they
> will be moving to an apartment that
> does not allow pets.  You've made the right decision for your "family,"
> but there was a time when I was your
> only family.  I was excited about the car ! ride until we arrived
> at the animal shelter.  It smelled of dogs and cats, of fear, of
> hopelessness.
> You filled out the paperwork and said "I know you will find a good home
> for her."  They shrugged and gave you
> a pained look.  They understand the realities facing a middle-aged dog,
> even one with "papers."
> You had to pry your son's fingers loose from my collar as he screamed
> "No, Daddy!  Please don't let them take
> my dog!"  And I worried for him, and what lessons you had just taught
> him about friendship and loyalty,
> about love and responsibility, and about respect for all life.  You gave
> me a
> good-bye pat on the head, avoided my eyes, and politely refused to take
> my
> collar and leash with you.  You had a deadline to meet and now I have
> one, too.>
> After you left, the two nice ladies said you probably knew about your
> upcoming move months ago and made no
> attempt to! find me another good home. They shook their heads and! asked
> "How could you?"
> They are as attentive to us here in the shelter as their busy schedules
> allow.  They feed us, of course, but I lost
> my appetite days ago.  At first,whenever anyone passed my pen, I rushed
> to the front, hoping it was you that you
> had changed your mind -- that this was all a bad dream ... or
> I hoped it would at least be someone who cared, anyone who might save
> me.
> When I  realized I could not compete with the frolicking for attention
> of happy puppies, oblivious to their own
> fate, I retreated to a far corner and waited.
> I heard her footsteps as she came for me at the end of the day, and I
> padded along the aisle after her to a
> separate room.  A blissfully quiet room.
> She placed me on the table and rubbed my ears, and told me not to worry.
> My heart pounded in anticipation of
> what was to come, but there was a

[CTRL] Caucasians for Reparation

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[CTRL] west nile virus alert

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Re: [CTRL] Walking catfish caught crossing road

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Prudy,
This mud puppy was the size was 10 inches by 3 inches and looked
exactly like a catfish. I was just shocked that it walked.
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Subject: Re: [CTRL] Walking catfish caught crossing road


> -Caveat Lector-
>
> The mud puppy is a giant salamander.  They're interesting, but they're
native
> to this country.  The walking catfish is an import if I'm remembering
> correctly.  I saw a mud puppy in our lake when I was a child.  I thought
it
> was a gigantic tadpole.  I tried to catch it, but of course it was gone in
a
> second.  Then the adults wouldn't believe me.  It was years before I knew
> what it was I saw.  Prudy
>
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Re: [CTRL] Walking catfish caught crossing road

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I live in Gary Indiana and we have what around here are called "mud
puppies" and are a variety of walking cat fish. I caught one when I was
about 15 years old in some water near one of the steel mills and it shocked
the heck out of me at the time.
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- Original Message -
From: "Bill Richer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2001 8:43 PM
Subject: [CTRL] Walking catfish caught crossing road


> -Caveat Lector-
>
> WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War!
>
> Walking catfish caught crossing road
> July 20, 2001
>
> By Dan McCue
> staff writer
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> STUART -- Monika Daly could barely believe her eyes as she returned to her
> home in the Florida Club development late Wednesday afternoon.
>
> A strong thunderstorm passing through the area an hour earlier had
drenched
> her yard with more than an inch of rain. In the wetness near the curb, she
> noticed "a kind of wriggling."
>
> I was certain it was a snake," Daly recalled Thursday. "But when I got
close,
> it lifted itself on its front flippers and tried to kind of, flip-flop
walk
> away from me."
>
> With that, the reality of the situation became clear.
>
> It was a walking catfish Daly had found. In another moment -- just long
> enough for her to scramble for a bucket to return the mustachioed fish to
a
> pond behind her house -- five more were making tracks, such as they were,
> across Blue Stem Way.
>
> "I've been a Florida resident for years, but have never seen anything like
> this," Daly said.
>
> When her husband, Frank, came home, Daly greeted him with, "Honey, you're
not
> going to believe this. ..."
>
> He didn't.
>
> But Thursday morning, as the sun rose over the Treasure Coast, a dozen
more
> of the black, 8- to 10-inch-long catfish were making their way across the
> street.
>
> Originally native to southeast Asia, the walking catfish, or clarias
> batrachus, as it is scientifically known, can walk short distances on
land,
> moving from one water body to the next -- thanks to two unique aspects of
its
> ana- tomy: auxiliary breathing organs and the strong spines of its fins
that
> can lock, allowing it to walk.
>
> In its native environment, the walking catfish inhabits muddy swamps,
ponds,
> ditches, and rice paddies, but it initially came to America from Thailand
as
> a popular pet shop item.
>
> Paul Shafland, a biologist with Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation
> Commission's exotic fisheries laboratory in Boca Raton, said the odd
catfish
> entered the Florida ecosystem during the 1960s, when several of the fish
> escaped from commercial fish farms near Deerfeld Beach and Tampa.
>
> "Basically, they appear to have simply walked out of these facilities,"
> Shafland said.
>
> Since then, the walking catfish has become one of the most extensively
> distributed of any exotic fish in the state, moving into a range
stretching
> from Central Flo- rida to the southern tip of the peninsula.
>
> Besides surprising Florida homeowners from time to time with their sudden
> emergence -- often after heavy rains -- the walking catfish is considered
> somewhat problematic because it competes with native game species and is
an
> efficient predator that devastates freshwater fish communities.
>
> Despite their presence in Florida wetlands, the state Fish and Wildlife
> Conservation Commission requires people to secure a permit before owning
one.
>
> "We see them every once in a while, but because of the drought, it's
probably
> been quite a long time since we've seen a significant emergence in this
> area," said Philip Baldwin, program director for the Florida Oceanographic
> Society.
>
> Baldwin theorizes that during the drought, populations of walking catfish
> continued to increase in deeper ponds and wetlands, and the rain provided
the
> fish with a chance to find new places to live where there are fewer of
them
> and more food sources.
>
> The walking catfish feeds on insect larvae, earthworms, shells, shrimp,
small
> fish, aquatic plants and even debris and garbage.
>
> "That's one reason they're so good at competing against native species,"
> Baldwin said. "They'll eat anything."
>
> Shafland said Baldwin's take on walking catfish is the common view, but
one
> he disagrees with.
>
> "Don't get me wrong, we consider these animals biological pollution. We
don't
> like them and we don't want them here. But they simply haven't proven as
> catastrophic as once was feared," the biologist said.
>
> "In fact, except for these isolated cases, we don't see nearly as many as
we
> used to," Shafland continued.
>
> Heavy rains, thick clouds and, in some cases, even heavy morning dews, are
> key to inspiring the catfish's movement, he said.
>
> "That's because although they have a simple lung and can survive out of
water
> for some time -- I've kept some alive in the lab for months that way --
t

[CTRL] POISON Teflon breaks down at high heat

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  http://content.health.msn.com/content/article/1728.84136
 1728.url

[CTRL] Urban Legends source

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  http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/weekly/aa070901a.htm?PM=n3071101c
 Where Pringles Really Come From.url

[CTRL] AccuWeather X-Forecast

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this is kind of cute http://www.accuweather.com/adcbin/alien_index?nav=home
 AccuWeather X-Forecast.url

Re: [CTRL] Gore Vidal

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As a matter of fact Tim did have girl friends. He liked to keep his personal
life private.
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- Original Message -
From: "Aleisha Saba" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, June 18, 2001 12:52 PM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] Gore Vidal


> -Caveat Lector-
>
> Well if you call Gore Vidal a patriot - fine; I still remember remarks
> he made about JFK, his appearance on TV, and this obsession with
> homosexuality.
>
> I imagine you are in love with Arthur Miller too?
>
> Was glad to hear he had recovered from his "illness" and to tell the
> truth,  do not care to read further the work of an alleged "man" who
> calls himself the "gentleman bitch"..
>
> Recall when he called John F. Kennedy a fascist and when JFK was
> murdered when asked who were the greatest historical figures, he
> responded "Muhammed, Buddah, Jesus Christ, and John F. Kennedy"...he
> delighted in the death of JFK, and he was to me just one queer bastard
> with built in room service - and he was no gentleman, just a
> "bitch"...can see at that how McVeigh would idiolize and worship at
> his feet, as would any mutt dog before a bitich in heat.
>
> He failed to win two elective offices (as did Norman Mailer fail to win
> any office for which he ran)..Vidal a social critic - well Gay Pride
> may adore him, America really did not care for him at the public trough.
>
> Did McVeigh ever have a girlfriend - I wonder.
>
> Saba
>
> Gore Vidal (1925- )
> Friday March 22 1:50 PM EST
>
> U.S. author Gore Vidal in hospital in Italy
> SALERNO, Italy (Reuter) - American author and social critic Gore Vidal
> was rushed to hospital in the southern Italian town of Salerno Friday
> after suffering a hemmorrhage but was in a stable condition, doctors
> said. Vidal, 70, was taken to the San Giovanni hospital shortly after 6
> a.m. following a rectal hemmorrhage. A hospital official said he would
> undergo tests Saturday and a decision would be made then on how long to
> keep him in hospital. Vidal, controversial author of such best-sellers
> as "Lincoln," "Myra Breckinridge" and "Burr" plus essays and
> screenplays, has a villa on the Italian coast. REUTER
>
> Sunday March 24 2:34 PM EST
> Gore Vidal "Doing Well" In Italian Hospital
> SALERNO, Italy (Reuter) - U.S. author Gore Vidal was reported doing well
> Saturday, a day after being rushed to an Italian hospital with a rectal
> hemorrhage. Doctors in the southern Italian town of Salerno said Vidal,
> 70, suffered the hemorrhage at his villa in the town of Ravello on the
> nearby Amalfi coast. "He is doing pretty well. He is undergoing a few
> more tests today to determine the cause of the hemmorrhage," Dr.
> Francesco Mastrandrea of the town's San Giovanni hospital told Reuters
> in a telephone interview. "The hemorrhage has been stopped and I think
> he could go home in a couple of days," said Mastrandrea, adding: "His
> morale is good and he is chatting with everyone."
>
> Vidal, a controversial author and social critic, was taken to the
> hospital shortly after 6 a.m. Friday. Gore shocked Americans when he
> burst onto the literary scene in 1948 with a noval called "The City and
> the Pillar," which dealt frankly with homosexuality. He wrote frankly
> about homosexuality at a time when it was taboo.
>
> Vidal has made two failed bids for public office and in recent years has
> published a series of best-selling historical novels that analyze where
> he thinks America fell from grace. Few contemporary writers have
> generated as much controversy as Gore Vidal, who calls himself "the
> gentleman bitch" of American letters. "I am exactly as I appear. There
> is no warm, lovable person inside. Beneath my cold exterior, once you
> break the ice, you find cold water," the tall, gray-haired author of
> such best-sellers as "Lincoln," "Myra Breckinridge" and "Burr," once
> told an interviewer. Vidal has lived with male companion Howard Austin
> for more than three decades, splitting their time between the United
> States and the villa in Italy. REUTER
>
>
> The American writer Gore Vidal, b. West Point, N.Y., Oct. 3, 1925,
> achieved success with his first novel, Williwaw (1946), inspired by his
> wartime service in the Aleutians. The City and the Pillar (1948), an
> account of homosexual life in the United States, and The Judgment of
> Paris (1952), a modernization of the ancient myth, won the respect of
> critics. Myra Breckinridge (1968), an outrageous spoof of Hollywood
> featuring a transsexual hero/heroine, brought him a much larger reading
> public. Vidal demonstrated his flair for dialogue and political
> understanding in two successful plays: Visit to a Small Planet (1957)
> and The Best Man (1960; film, 1964). His penchant for re-creating
> history led to Julian (1964), a fictional biography of the Roman
> emperor; Burr (1973), 1876 (1976), Empire (1987), and Hollywood (1990),
> studies of 19th- and 20th-century U.S. politics; and

Re: [CTRL] Gore Vidal

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-Caveat Lector-

Not suprising at all. Tim was very well read. He read the classics as well
as modern books. I sent him more than a few books when he was at Terre
Haute.

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- Original Message -
From: "Aleisha Saba" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, June 18, 2001 9:25 AM
Subject: [CTRL] Gore Vidal


> -Caveat Lector-
>
> Difficult to imagine Timothy McVeigh and his interest in Gore Vidal.
>
> Once years ago Buckley and Vidal got into a public argument - Buckley
> called Gore a "queer son-of-a-bitch", after Vidal goaded him into
> reacting.   Gore Vidal was a homosexual and wasn ot offended by the
> remark.
>
> So why Gore Vidal?   From Turner Diaries to Gore Vidal?   Maybe McVeigh
> should have read a little less Vidal and a little more of a great work
> called Crime and Punishment.
>
> Gore Vidal liked to shock people; he held the American people in
> contempt which was obvious, but then so did McVeigh.
>
> After all it appears in the end McVeigh was just another Oswald who
> considered himself superior to the American "sheeple"?
>
> So McVeigh was his own executioner but wonder, must wonder if he was a
> latlent homosexual hence the curious interest in Gore Vidal .
>
> Makes one wonder if there was a little bit of Gore in McVeigh -
>
> Saba
>
>
> Credits and feedback
>
>
> Gore (Eugene Luther) Vidal (1925-) - Original name Eugene Luther Vidal -
> Detective novels under the pseudonym Edgar Box
> Prolific American novelist, playwright, and essayist, one of the great
> stylists of contemporary American prose, who has been active in
> politics. Vidal made his debut as novelist with WILLIWAW at the age of
> 19, while still in US Army uniform.
>
> "One understands of course why the role of the individual in history is
> instinctively played down by a would-be egalitarian society. We are,
> quite naturally, afraid of being victimized by reckless adventurers. To
> avoid this we have created a myth of the ineluctable mass
> ('other-directedness') which governs all. Science, we are told, is not a
> matter of individual inquiry but of collective effort. Even the surface
> storminess of our elections disguises a fundamental indifference to
> human personality; if not this man, then that one; it's all the same,
> life will go on." (from 'Robert Graves and the Twelve Caesars', in
> Rocking the Boat, 1963)
>
> Gore Vidal grew accustomed at an early age to a life among political and
> social notables. He was born at the military academy in West Point, New
> York, where his father was an instructor.
>
> He was raised near Washington, DC, in the house of his grandfather,
> Thomas P. Gore, a populist Democrat senator from Oklahoma.
>
> Vidal learned about political life from him and when he was a teenager
> he adopted the first name of Gore. Vidal also spent time on the Virginia
> estate of his stepfather, Hugh. D. Auchincloss. After graduating from
> Philips Exeter Academy in New Hampshire, he served on an army supply
> ship in the Aleutian Islands, near Alaska.
>
> Much of his time in the Enlisted Reserve Corps he devoted to writing.
> Upon his discharge he worked for six months for the publishing firm of
> E.P. Dutton. From 1947 to 1949 Vidal lived in Antigua, Guatemala. His
> first novel, Williwaw, was based on his wartime experiences as first
> mate on Freight Ship 35 in the Alaskan Harbour Craft Detachment. The
> conventional seafaring story was written in the spirit Ernest Hemingway.
>
> The novel was praised by the critics like the following books, although
> THE CITY AND THE PILLAR (1948) shocked the public with its homosexual
> main character. However, he became known as a serious writer at the age
> of 21, and the novel also 'broke the mold' of gay American fiction.
>
> The book was reissued in 1965 with a different ending. THE JUDGEMENT OF
> PARIS (1953) was about a young man travelling with jet-set and wondering
> how to satisfy his own part-cynical, part-romantic outlook. Several of
> his following novels did not gain critical approval and Vidal started to
> write plays for television, motion pictures and stage. Among his
> best-known works from the 1950s is VISIT TO A SMALL PLANET (prod. first
> for television in 1955).
>
> In the 1960s Vidal returned to the literary scene by producing
> historical or contemporary novels, including JULIAN (1964), written in
> the form of a journal by the eponymous Roman emperor,
>
> WASHINGTON, D.C. (1967), a political thriller spanning the years
> 1937-52, BURR (1974), in which its title character rises above the other
> Founding Fathers, 1876 (1976), DULUTH (1983), and LINCOLN (1984), a
> carefully reconstructed account of the life of the US president, who is
> "almost diabolically unknowable in his use of power". CREATION (1981)
> was the memoir of an imaginary grandson of Zoroaster who travels the
> world in the service of Persian kings and plays with the ideas of
> Confucius, Gautama Buddha, Anaxagoras and othe

Re: [CTRL] Priest: McVeigh sought forgiveness

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-Caveat Lector-

This is what really irks me about people who speculate about Hell
and who might be there. The bible says that there is only one unforgivable
sin (blaspheming the Holy Spirit.I understand that this means
denying the power of God). If someone sincerely repents he or she can most
assuredly go to Heaven.
 Hell is a place that you go to by Choice. Tim was not a case of a
death bed conversion either. He had wrote before on this topic so this was
on his mind for some time. No matter what Tim did people were going to
misinterpret his motives depending on their own point of view.
 Take the execution for instance, When Tim strained to raise his
head and look at the witnesses some witnesses saw acceptance of his
fate. the bombing surrivor's family members saw smugness or an
attittude.
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From: "Prudence L. Kuhn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2001 8:23 AM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] Priest: McVeigh sought forgiveness


> -Caveat Lector-
>
> In a message dated 06/13/2001 7:04:08 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> writes:
>
> <<  "Totally honest, in all his goodness and in all his sinfulness, and
humbly
>   asking God through Jesus Christ's life and death and resurrection to ask
>  God to forgive his sinfulness and pardon it, to save him and lead him to
>  eternal life." >>
>
> I wonder if the ones responsible for Waco have ever asked forgiveness?
There
> were an awful lot of unnecessary deaths there as well.   Prudy
>
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Re: [CTRL] Barry and the Boys

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What is the title of the book that you're speaking of?
^^
- Original Message -
From: "Aleisha Saba" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 10:37 AM
Subject: [CTRL] Barry and the Boys


> -Caveat Lector-
>
> I got this book but did not have Kris sign, which I regret.
>
> Everyone interested in assassination, conspiracies, and government
> involvement and connections to illegal activities - need to read this.
>
> There is a chapter and information on Gordon Novel, whom I knew and
> still know which was of great interest to me - for Gordon escaped
> Garrison's net, and Gordon Novel knew Jim Garrison visited Ferrie and
> later Ferrie was found dead, so Garrison was last to see Ferrie alive -
> unless 
>
> Barry Seal to die the way he did - an execution - and this stuff has
> been going on for years?
>
> The picture - Barry Seal is the only one who tries to hide his face -
> and whoever took this picture?   Well paranoia sets herein for had I
> been Barry Seal I would have hidden my face too...Smile, your on CIA
> Candid Camera - and boy they had some mug shots there.
>
> What I noted naturally, was all in the picture looked like meeting at
> Last Supper.now any hit man with a target would love such a apicture
> - but Barry hid his facepresumably that was Barry hiding behind this
> man's shoulder.
>
> So Joshua - my son has my book and will not return as he is fascinated -
> and probably has it memorized hopefully, and I will get it back.
>
> If you were not such a litle asshole I would lend you my copy;  but you
> would do well to order this book and add it to your bookshelf.for it
> will someday be a true collector's item.
>
> Saba
>
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[CTRL] mental illness and mind control

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    Who 
decides what is normal and what is mental illness. Much of what passes for normal today was abnormal 40 years ago. I love to 
read old sociology and psychology textbooks. They remind me how much things have 
changed.
 
Has anyone read the book "Sugar Blues" by Duffy It has some very interesting 
thoughts on lots of subjects. Another good book is "The manufacture of madness" 
(I think that's the correct title). 

[CTRL] whom the gods will destroy they first make mad

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William,
    This 
whole thread reminds me of that old one
 "whom the gods will destroy they first make 
mad".
    Actually 
define mental illness. Any definition of it has changed throught history and 
through many cultures. 
    Have you 
ever read the book the "Sugar Blues" by Duffy.
What is normal. What 
passes for normal today was considered grounds to be locked up in the looney bin 
even 
20 years ago. 
    
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Re: [CTRL] McVeigh's Lawyer Says Bombing Was Conspiracy

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-Caveat Lector-

This is getting frustrating..whether you believe that Tim is
guilty or innocentDEAD RIGHT IS STILL DEAD.

^^^
- Original Message -
From: "Elizabeth Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2001 10:56 AM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] McVeigh's Lawyer Says Bombing Was Conspiracy


> -Caveat Lector-
>
> Where do you buy this book?
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