[CTRL] : Defending the Southern Heritage, 2001
-Caveat Lector-
{{I am sure that some of our kinder, gentler (ha!) lib posters will want
to
claim this is off topic but let me assure you that I have watched this
conspiracy evolve over my entire lifetime. The South is the scapegoat
onto
which the nation foist its various social ills regardless of the nature of
the truth of the matter. Example: Everyone knows that no matter how
racist
their own area is, it is MUCH worse down South, right??? This is totally
false but is so beloved an idea that the rest of the country will never
abandon this way of thinking. How long since there has been any kind of
race riot, march, etc. in Birmingham? At least 40 years, a lifetime for
the
majority of people living there. Compare and contrast to Watts, Compton,
Miami, New York (Benson Heights), Detroit, Cincinnati and on and on. Check
the latest census for confirmation of blacks returning to the deep South,
etc. since 1970 when jobs became available. I DO hope we stop fighting the
wars for America and let others do this in the future. Too many
Southerners
have died fighting for a country that treats them and their families as
second class citizens. Every time there a major disaster like the bombing
of the Marine barracks, etc. the number of Southerners listed is far out
of
population proportion. Like Jimmy Carter, I am a Southerner before being
an
American and shall remain so at least until the war crimes committed
against
this region and the following economic sanctions which lasted until WWII
are
admitted and addressed. Why make such an issue of Kerry when there is
such
a tradition of waging war against non-combatants? Erect a monument of him
ala Sherman and pay homage!
Amelia}}
Subject: FW: Defending the Southern Heritage, 2001
http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig/wilson3.html
Defending the Southern Heritage, 2001
by Clyde Wilson
Many good people have been working in recent years to preserve public
acknowledgment and celebration of our Confederate history. Our fights
have
been largely defensive reactions to the innumerable strokes of our
enemies,
and most of them have been defeats. Our enemies control most of the
respectable political, religious, educational, business, and media
institutions of American society, including nearly all Southern
institutions.
We have lost in part because many defenders of Confederate symbols have
not
understood the nature of the battle. Southerners are a conservative
people.
They prefer the traditional to the abstract and are slow to adopt new
theories (one of the several characteristics that distinguish them from
other inhabitants of the United States). This is a good and healthy
virtue,
but like all virtues it can, if we are not careful, become a
self-defeating
rigidity. The conservative philosopher Russell Kirk contrasted mere
stand-patter conservatism of the dull-witted or poor in spirit who
reject
anything new with the true conservatism of an Edmund Burke or a John C.
Calhoun who perceived that it was necessary to change in order to
conserve
because new conditions had created new threats to our patrimony.
Unfortunately, too many spokesmen in the fight for Southern heritage are
stand-patters, i.e., dinosaurs on their way to extinction. They are
trying
to live in a world that they grew up in but which does not exist any
more.
The world that they grew up in accepted Southerners and Southern
heritage
as
a positive part of America. That world began disappearing a half century
ago
and is almost gone.
After Reconstruction, which all sensible Northerners came to realize had
been a grievous mistake, most Americans, North and South, took the Road
to
Reunion. Southerners had to agree that they were glad that the Union had
been saved and a stronger America had emerged. (They were already
genuinely
glad of the end of slavery.) For the most part they did this with
sincerity
and enthusiasm (they had to if they had any hopes of personal success).
Southerners became good and loyal members of the new America. They have
lived up to that pledge every generation since, in fact have been the
most
loyal of all Americans and done more than their fair share in every war.
As their part of the bargain, Northerners acknowledged that Southerners
had
been brave and honorable in their war for independence, and their
heroes,
like Lee and Jackson, would be celebrated as American heroes. (There
were
always a few old Yankees around who wanted to exterminate the rebels,
and
indeed there still are, but they were a minority.)
This is why The Birth of a Nation, creation of D.W. Griffith, son of a
Confederate soldier, could be regarded as a national epic at the
beginning
of the twentieth century. Will Rogers, another son of a Confederate
soldier,
was a national institution and he and Shirley Temple and many others
portrayed very sympathetic Southern characters in the
Re: [CTRL] : Defending the Southern Heritage, 2001
-Caveat Lector- I notice there is no mention of segregation and lynching of blacks in all the mythology of 'southern heritage' that was posted... If the vast majority of southerners didn't support slavery, why did it take Union troops to free the slaves? If the vast majority of southerners didn't support slavery, why did they institute de facto slavery after the war via segregation and a sustained campaign of terror against any 'uppity' blacks who tried to circumvent segregation? June A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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It seems to me that the South has done remarkably well in the last l50 years and more particularly since l963 desegregation conflict. Wish the Northeast democrats could do as well to ease social problems by other means than throwing money at them. - Original Message - From: YnrChyldzWyld To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2001 8:39 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] : Defending the Southern Heritage, 2001 -Caveat Lector-I notice there is no mention of segregation and lynching of blacks in allthe mythology of 'southern heritage' that was posted...If the vast majority of southerners didn't support slavery, why did ittake Union troops to free the slaves?If the vast majority of southerners didn't support slavery, why did theyinstitute de facto slavery after the war via segregation and asustained campaign of terror against any 'uppity' blacks who tried tocircumvent segregation?JuneA HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/ADECLARATION DISCLAIMER==CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandicscreeds are unwelcomed. Substance-not soap-boxing-please! These aresordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'-with its many half-truths, mis-directions and outright frauds-is used politically by different groups withmajor and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought.That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, andalways suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives nocredence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply.Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector.Archives Available at:http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.htmlA HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of[EMAIL PROTECTED]/Ahttp:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/ATo subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email:SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED]To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email:SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED]Om
Re: [CTRL] : Defending the Southern Heritage, 2001
-Caveat Lector- -Original Message- From: YnrChyldzWyld [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2001 7:40 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] : Defending the Southern Heritage, 2001 If the vast majority of southerners didn't support slavery, why did they institute de facto slavery after the war via segregation and a sustained campaign of terror against any 'uppity' blacks who tried to circumvent segregation? Probably for the same reason murder still occurs and the USA is known as one of the most violent countries in the world despite that fact that most Americans never indulge in violence or killing. If you tell a negative person 20 positive things and one negative thing they will completely forget the 20 and obsess on the one. Try it. History records the worst events and ignores the little things good people do every day. In some people's view the nice things therefore did not happen. The majority of U.S. soldiers in ground combat in WWII intentionally fired their weapons into the sky to make sure they didn't hit anyone, but history ignores this. Recorded history has little to do with reality. Just ask Japanese children if they are taught that the bombs dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki were good because they prevented the loss of American lives. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
