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-Caveat Lector- Howard Davis wrote: > -Caveat Lector- > >Kris Millegan wrote: >> >> -Caveat Lector- >> >> Treason in America -- From Aaron Burr to Averell Harriman >> ANTON CHAITKIN (C)1984 [snip] > >> It was >> only t}he adoption of the Constitution in 1787 which undercut these projects. >> As soon as the document was sent to the states for ratification, Albert: >> Gallatin became the mastermind of the Pennsylvania opposition forces. John >> Smilie, a Gallatin lieutenant, was the floor leader of the >> anti-ratificationists in the state convention. Smilie condemned the >> Constitution for "inviting rather than guarding against the approaches of >> tyranny," and what he said was its "tendency to a consolidations not a >> confederation, of the states." Gallatin lost; Pennsylvania ratified by a >> two-to-one majority. > >Well, was he wrong? It certainly looks to me like it has "invited rather >than guarding against the approaches of tyranny". > > >Howard Davis > from Who Got Einstein's Office? by Ed Regis: "...In an account of Godel's life and work, mathematician Solomon Feferman describes how Godel almost did himself out of American citizenship. For this an oral examination was required, and so Godel studied the United States Constitution. He noticed that, well...it had quite a few problems. For one thing, there were some contradictions in it. And for another, if you really looked closely enough, you'd find that the United States -quite legally!- could be turned into a dictatorship. He confided these discoveries to his friend, Oskar Morgenstern, who told him that he could not mention any of this at his citizenship examination. "On April 2, 1948, Godel showed up at the government offices in Trenton, accompanied by Einstein and Morgenstern who were there as witnesses. On the drive down to Trenton, Einstein kept telling a bunch of stories and anecdotes to keep Godel's mind off the logical problems of the American Constitution. But then the proceeding began. 'Up to now you have held German citizenship,...' the official began, but Godel jumped in and corrected this immediately. He was Austrian, not German. 'Anyhow,' the official continued, 'it was under an evil dictator- ship, but fortunately that's not possible in America...' " 'On the contrary,' Godel cried out, 'I know how that can happen!' Finally, though, Einstein and Morgenstern succeeded in restraining Godel long enough for him to be examined and duly sworn in as a citizen of the United States." Constitution worshippers make me a bit uneasy (but, as a foreigner, I won't take them to task -or Rambouillet- over it. Anyways, it's not just an American problem). Nevertheless, even if it isn't a great document, it is a common one so I figured the best solution was for America to abide by the damn thing long enough to find out what its actual flaws were. Now I'm not so sure; maybe it has been followed all too well. Anybody know Godel's "proof"? The original source is: Feferman, Solomon, et al. (eds.) Kurt Godel: Collected Works. Volume 1: Publications 1929-1936. Oxford: Oxford University Press, 1986. which includes Feferman's biographical essay on Godel. Gerry DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [2] Treason in America -- From Aaron Burr to AverellHarriman
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 4/7/99 10:10:51 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >This appears to be a front for Larouche. Am I wrong? Chaitkan has written for Larouchian publications. But that doesn't invalidate his research and leads. I found Treason in America to be a very interesting book and well source, so one can follow-up and study for oneself. If its dis/mis, there is still much to learn. Om K DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] [2] Treason in America -- From Aaron Burr to Averell Harriman
-Caveat Lector- Treason in America -- From Aaron Burr to Averell Harriman ANTON CHAITKIN (C)1984 New Benjamin Franklin House P. O. Box 20551 New York, New York 10023 ISBN 0-933488-32-7 --[2]-- -2- The British Surrender, But the War Continues At the close of the American War in 1783, while the British and French were still fighting, East India Company operative Adam Smith wrote an updated version of the Wealth of Nations. This was to be the essential document of the new order of things in London, for by then Smith's friend Lord Shelburne had established his power in the British government by a virtual coup. In it Smith complained that "Mr. Colbert, the famous minister of Lewis XIV . . . [endeavored to regulate] the industry and commerce of a great country upon the same model as the departments of a public office; and instead of allowing every man to pursue his own interest in his own way . . . he bestowed upon certain branches of industry extraordinary privileges, while he laid others under as extraordinary restraints . . . [Colbert preferred] the industry of the towns above that of the country."(1) This unfair policy (by which France had become a greater manufacturing power than England!), said Smith, was responsible for provoking cycles of retaliation between France and England, and peace between the two nations could only be secured on the basis of "free trade" between them. In France, Adam Smith's theory of free trade was popularized by Burr's new cousin, Jacques Mallet du Pan, who called Smith "the most profound and philosophic of all the metaphysical writers who have dealt with economic questions." Later du Pan's cousin Pierre Prevost, professor at the University of Geneva, would translate the works of Adam Smith and Thomas Malthus. Attacking Colbert's policies in 1786, Mallet du Pan lobbied strenuously with France's King Louis XVI to accept British Prime Minister William Pitt's offer of a treaty that would force France to give up all protective measures, and put the country at the mercy of Britain's "free trade" policies. At the same time the international banking houses, led by the Swiss, suddenly refused credit to the French government, and Louis XVI was forced to sign Pitt's Eden Treaty. No sooner had that been accomplished, than the British launched a terrifying trade war, dumping cheap British manufactures on the French market and cutting off the supply to France of vital Spanish wool. Within France, employment, agriculture, and trade quickly collapsed and starvation followed. In 1789, credit was again withdrawn from the French government. King Louis XVI was forced to reinstall Genevan banker Jacques Necker as minister of financeafter having fired him several times beforein order to "regain the confidence" of the banking community. Necker proposed austerity as the only solution to the crisis. He told the people of France that their troubles stemmed from "wasteful spending' by the King and Queen. Necker was again dismissed by the insulted King, but now mobs surged through the streets crying that Necker was the only hope for the French people. As they stormed the Bastille prison, the French Revolution began. Aaron Burr's kinsman, Mallet du Pan, satisfied that anarchy was burying French greatness, returned to Geneva and then settled in Londonwhere he set up a European-wide spy network for the British. Spymaster du Pan received first-hand accounts of French government secret deliberations from his agents within France. (2) Enter Albert Gallatin Albert Gallatin, who was to serve the British with Burr on American soil in the decades that followed the Revolutionary victory, came from one of the leading oligarchical families of Geneva. Relations of blood, and of bloody deeds, united them with Gallatins, Galitzins, Galitis, and Gallatinis in Russia, South Germany, Holland, Italy and Savoy, where the family originated. They had served the feudal nobility of Europe for centuries as financiers and soldiers of fortune.(3) The Gallatins maintained a seat on Geneva's Council of 200, along with the family that had finally given Aaron Burr a home and identitythe Mallet-Prevost family. The Gallatins were cousins of the Mallets, the Prevosts, and the Neckers, with active relations in England, Holland, and Geneva. Albert Gallatin was born in 1761. His most intimate friend and father-figure in his youth was the writer Voltaire, the Gallatins' neighbor. According to all his biographers, Albert spent countless hours on the lap of the ultra-rich cynic, whose love of British and hatred of Continental philosophy made a deep impression on the youth. At the University of Geneva as a student, Gallatin formed a life-long friendship with classmate Etienne Dumont, who left Switzerland and became the tutor to the sons of Britain's Lord Shelburne, as well as the worldwide agent and translator of Jeremy Bentham. Another formative relationship, not mentioned in any existing Gallatin biography, can best be de
