---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sun, 2 Jul 2000 13:00:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Franklin Wayne Poley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [LIFE-GAZETTE] Christian Design of Healthy Villages and Cities Dear Christian Medical Association: My Gospel of St. Luke begins with the recognition of the author/biographer as "Luke, The Beloved Physician". Further to Mr. Jennings journalism on "The Greatest Story Ever Told" I am reminded that the report of Luke was a historical report and that this is a historically based faith. When Life-Gazette was in tabloid format in the late 80's and early 90's, one of its columnists was a retired Christian physician who impressed me greatly with his statements on the CREDIBILITY of this faith. Dr. Hugh Macphail (MD, 1948, U. Manitoba) was even a creationist. He said he thought there was literal evidence for creation, ie for some-thing coming out of no-nothing in the outer regions of space. In particular he said that he thought hydrogen could be created in space. I have to admit that I was incredulous until I read the book by scientist-astronaut Brian O'Leary titled "Miracle In The Void". Not only does O'Leary say that mass-energy can be created in the void but that he thinks the "zero point field" as he calls space, is conscious in and of itself. Once again I was incredulous until I read the web site of another scientist-astronaut, Edgar D. Mitchell, on quantum holograms as "nature's mind". If the "observer effect" as it is called in quantum physics manifests itself everywhere we have a scientific statement giving credence to omniscience, another central tenet in the teachings of Christ. Dr. Macphail pointed out that this faith we have is a "credible faith, not a credulous faith". It is not based on the tooth fairy (the latter kind of faith) but upon HISTORICAL EVIDENCE. IT STANDS OR FALLS ON HISTORICAL REPORTS LIKE THAT OF LUKE. So it is not a matter of "secular history" vs. "religious history". It is a matter of history which is valid vs. history which is invalid. I have never come across a single piece of evidence which would prove beyond reasonable doubt that any Biblical account of history or science or philosophy is invalid. On the other hand, many related pieces of evidence support the Biblical account of history which is, I remind you, the established history of Christendom (while histories to the contrary are revisionist). With only summary stories available for events millennia in the past it is easy to question the validity of the historical events reported. Mr. Jennings questions Joseph taking Mary to Bethlehem because it was not "standard practice" re Roman taxation. That question can be raised but it does not refute anything. Nor does the incredulity of many concerning the miracle of the resurrection. On that point, discussed in a Jennings-King interview, I should add that THE FAITH IS UTTERLY INVALIDATED IF THE RESURRECTION IS A HOAX. In scientific terms, the ancient (Old Testament) teaching of the resurrection of the body had been empirically demonstrated by Jesus Christ. Doesn't medical science today support the conclusion that a human body with no vital signs can be revived under certain conditions? The "medical approach" to our faith could help us greatly today. I am on a list called "Healthy Cities". I think the last posting was over a year ago. What would a healthy city (including its villages, surrounding farms and individual estates etc.) be like? The carnage on the streets of our cities today is hideous. There are designs for new villages and cities which would almost totally eliminate this. Pollution ruins health and takes lives. According to Dean of Architecture, William McDonough, any new community planned today, not meeting the criterion of "little or no pollution" is a manifestation of faulty planning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>. These examples and others obviously have to do with the Commandment "Thou shalt not kill". One could go on with the "medical approach" until a complete "healthy city" is described. St. Luke quotes Jesus in his historical biography: "And why call ye me Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?" (Luke 6:46). What would Jesus say about the planning of a model village built anew (like the False Creek Village in Vancouver under the auspices of the City of Vancouver Administration) or a model city built anew (like the Bamberton City on Vancouver Island under the auspices of the Provincial Government)? Would such communities be any better than the norm in North America today if they were designed under the leadership of Christian physicians? Would they manifest BETTER HEALTH at all levels from physical to economic to spritual? The faith which spread all over the world from that small country on the southeast shore of the Mediterranean Sea was manifested in complete nations which called themselves "officially" Christian. Faith without works is indeed dead and those works became the practices, laws, customs etc. of scores of countries. In Canada's case our Constitution is explicitly "founded upon principles that recognize the supremacy of God". Who is going to spell out the nature of this "God" and the "principles" of this God? Mr. Jennings talks of his interviewing "witnesses" for Christ. But that is an unusual use of the word "witness". You could give him a chance to interview witnesses by the usual definition of that word by telling us in Canada what a Christian village/city and surroundings would be like in a nation founded upon principles that recognize the supremacy of God, as YOU understand God. There would then be witnesses to the actualization of a modern Christian Culture. What kind of society/culture/nation meets the standards of God as you understand God? Would it be any healthier than any other? Any better? If not, we can just toss coins or throw dice to decide how to interpret "God" in the Canadian Constitution. So far Canadians might as well throw dice. Every law/statute in this country carries with it definitions of important words as far as I know. The Constitution, the SUPREME LAW OF CANADA does not define "God". And no legal expert, no religious expert in Canada will answer "The Question Nobody Will Answer". Will you? Sincerely-FWP http://www.vcn.bc.ca/culturex/The-Question-Nobody-Will-Answer.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------ **BELIEFNET SHOPPING** Save $20 at the Beliefnet store! Thousands of religious and spiritual gifts and products. Now- get $20 off purchases of $50 or more through July 10. http://click.egroups.com/1/5591/2/_/564407/_/962568071/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ What would a complete society be like if it were to "do all for the glory of God"? (I Corinthians 10:31). 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